A prime example is Evan Ocheings 2 story Church building he has in his backyard. The Feast complex buildings and auditorium, Evans has on his Property. Evans owns it all.
Bob has spent upwards of $500,000 or more on these projects, not to mention all other church buildings and properties in Africa.
Bob financed Evans' son Bradox Ouma Ocheings Political involvement in 2017, and in 2022, via Papa Evans. Bradox boy is now running for a 3rd run in 2027 in that same election where Bob says someone put his name on the ballot.
Also, Evans has a Gold mining operation-Bob's excuse is that it's only a small gold mining operation! What's a COG Evangelist in Africa doing owning a gold mining business????
Bob put out his yarn about how much he helps these poor people. The truth is, most of that money is spent on Evans and Radsons' adulterous escapades, bribing people and local Chiefs and villagers to pose and take pictures to manipulate Pastor Bobby in believing he has all these thousands when he has nothing really to show for except providing Money to the witchdoctors and local prostitutes.
Bob's own words in previous articles tell the tale of when Church income drops it is because of sins. It sounds like CCOG is getting the curses, according to Bob.
Bob has nothing in Malawi. 3 or 4 thousand disappeared. Sosten caught Church hopping with Wade Cox. The Continuing Church of God, the incredibly fastest shrinking X-WCG church of God by far. Women, Witchdoctors, Woopie, oh my!!!!
Terry Nelson
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Bob's God is quite the trickster, isn't he? Making Bob His prophet, then blinding him to the antics of his African ministers. A lesser man might conclude that Bob couldn't possibly be a prophet, considering how consistently God is blinding him so that he'll stumble into embarrassing mistakes and unfortunate situations.
Terry Nelson wrote, “Bob has spent upwards of $500,000 or more on these projects, not to mention all other church buildings and properties in Africa”.
MY COMMENT – So, if I understand your Post correctly (and, you can correct me if I am wrong), little Booby Thiel forked over approximately $500K of Continuing Church of God (grossly mis-named) tithes and offerings to either finance property acquisitions or property improvements in Evan Ocheings name personally, and not deeded or recorded lien in CCOG’s name, or without something in writing between CCOG and Ocheing should Ocheing go rogue and abscond with the property investment?
I realize we are talking about an impoverished African third world country that doesn’t have USA property rights and legal standards. But surely, little Booby Thiel isn’t that stupid. Is he? This would be a gross mis-use of tithe slave funds to personally enrich one alleged CCOG member located in a continent that is known for corruption. Think Minnesota Somali fraud.
I don’t claim to be a prophet like Thiel claims himself to be, but you don’t have to be a prophet to see what can go wrong here. Perhaps a Cartoon Bob animation on this subject might help.
Richard
When I've been to Belarus and Tanzania, foreigners weren't able to purchase land or homes. They had to be purchased in the name of a local, someone you trusted. Good luck trying to find a trustworthy person in some parts of the world. White people are thought by many Tanzanians to be rich. In some ways, of course, we are. But this image can make us an easy target for fraud.
If the U.S. State Department were to look into Bob's monies sent to Africa, would they be able to confirm that all the fund transfers were done in full compliance with the laws of the U.S. and of the recipient nations? Has Bob put the CCOG in jeopardy by using American dollars to fund a Kenyan political campaign, or is it just Bob whose donkey is at risk?
Bob has too much pride to admit that Evans made a sucker of him. But then again, Bob never figured out that both Rod Meredith and Herbert Armstrong made a sucker of him long before that.
The sunk cost principle suggests that Bob will go to his grave harboring the mental delusion that he is God's super-special end-time prophet. But imagine how much good Bob might still be able to do if he could have a genuine come-to-Jesus moment and become his generation's Marion McNair or John Trechak.
Bob, right now you are only special in the eyes of some greedy African grifters who want your money. Your Caucasian flock comes and goes, mostly goes, and is dwindling rather than increasing. If you really want to be special and leave a lasting mark, just think of the good you could do by publicly renouncing HWA/RCM/CCOG and embracing the painful truth that you were conned, and by helping others escape from the con instead of perpetuating the con.
Bob used to claim that CCOG members couldn't complain about money misspent in/on Africa because Bob gets the Africa money from the equivalent of the salary he deserves but does not take. Well, as of his latest member letter he has now changed his story. He openly admits that if you gave $100 to CCOG in 2025, 47.86 percent of that went to Africa and Haiti. It's not coming out of his pocket. It's coming out of CCOG member tithes and offerings. By Bob's own admission.
That's right Richard, CCOG doesn't own anything, it's all in Evans name and Radsons-and other local church leaders that Bob has offered to build churches on their land. Do you really think these African Conn men are going to put Church land and buildings in the Churches name - no way. They tell Bob it can't be done , which is a lie. Hope of Israel Worldwide church of god, Owns all their land and buildings in Kenya and Malawi- we won't build or fix any church buildings we don't own- cause we know what can happen - prime example is Sosten taking money from multiple church organizations, also that's why another Reason Bob Won't fire Radson or Evans- they'd take him to the cleaners!!!!!
What's wrong with a church member (maybe the complaint involves an evangelist) "owning a gold mining business"?
Does Dr. Thiel ask every member to be like the rich young ruler? Should we expect church leaders to require that?
Recent developments make it clear that Bwana Bob must be either a liar or an incompetent. Can Bob show us from the Scriptures even ONE example of a prophet who was either a liar or an incompetent?
I wonder if Evans Ocheing reads Banned. If so, it would be interesting to know his side of the story. A term (witch doctor) has been used on him, and the very usage of that term would tend to invalidate him in most Christian peoples' minds. Still, this isn't Salem! The US Constitution and Bill of Rights by which we live provides for due process! A person is innocent until proven gullty.
~QNW, Seeker of Truth
R.L. Nothing wrong owning a Gold mining Business, but when your skimming Money from Church funds allocated for feeding the starving or other needs of CCOG members and financing this Gold operation and then pocketing the funds for your own gain- it's downright dirty deeds/ Example where's the Money from this Gold operation going? Evans should have Church Farms of 100 acres plus producing food for the Church-he and his Congregations he manages should at least be self sufficient and lack nothing -With the 3 or 4 Million Bob has pumped into these Conn Men over the last 10 plus years- Africa should be financing the Entire CCOG Budget. An Example of Hope of Israel Worldwide church of god. The Church has acquired farm land and other Properties and in less than 3 years now starting from its inception,will now be producing almost all of the Feast Budget next year. We are opening up a World class Resort on Lake Malawi next year- which will be the 2026 Feast site and will also generate income for the Church-he we also plan on opening up Fuel stations across Malawi- and donating up to 10%to the local needs of the community. It can be done with the right Management and Team. I told this to Bob years ago to set up accountability management, but he wouldn't do it, his Excuse "the Africans will think I don't trust them". Well look at the a prophet now. Absolutely nothing to show for Except Bullshit stories and Women, Witchdoctors and Woopie Escapades of his leadership in Africa 🌍
Sadly he must suffer from some kind of Witchdoctor Psychosis as the late Sasha Veljic stated. Nobody can be that incompetent unless they're in Delusion land.
Bobs in deep voodoo doo- doo if they ever investigate him, especially Evans Ocheing -a member in the Malawian Parliament already knows of Evans and Radsons corruption and abuse of women, it's just a matter of time when it gets exposed, Bob can't spin it when the Shit hits the fan as they say😂🤣🤣
Couldn't Bob see this coming?????
I have to wonder if Bob thinks there are thousands of members in Africa because someone sent him a photo of thousands of members, but it was created by AI?
The problem, Richard, is that the vast majority of Armstrongite leaders and Bob Thiel, believe that they do not need outside counsel or advice in order to effectively deal with new or unfamiliar situations. They believe that if they apply the principles taught by Herbert W. Armstrong as they attempt to rule their acquired domains, that they will be successful. I dare say that most imagine that they are gaining the experience which will "qualify" them to rule their cities with a rod of iron throughout the millennium and Kingdom. Therefore, they stand above any possible wise counsel or critique.
In other words, any possible accountability is purely imaginary, as they are only accountable to themselves, and what they fantasize about during their prayers.
Now, what could possibly go wrong, given the application of that particular type of "wisdom"?
Smart move Wade. Keep it up.
There is a sucker born every minute. And two religious leaders to take all he has.
It is not to his advantage to verify the numbers. Why would he deliberately diminish what he has touted as his greatest achievement, the alleged growth of his little ACOG? That would be tantamount to down-playing his diploma-mill degrees. To him, they are just as authentic as degrees from Harvard or Yale, and the unverifiable African numbers put him ahead of all the larger, more established splinters, particularly LCG, which is in HWA parlance, his equivalent of Sardis because they would not accept Theil's "new" truths.
Oh, well. Perhaps after we suffer the tribulation, we'll all come to our senses and admit that Bob Thiel is right up there with HWA. Oops, watch out! Gonna go dyslexic! HAW!
Most small gold mines lose money. Africans have resources but no business savvy.
Would t be good etiquette to bid your witch doctor "Have a nice sabbath"?
Bob Thiel should be investing in silver mines, and casting silver bullets for his reloading operation!
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