Brethren, dust off those checkbooks and prepare to open wide those wallets of righteousness! The time has finally come to rescue and truly restore the Worldwide Church of God's crowning jewel—that magnificent monument to Herbert W. Armstrong himself: the Ambassador Auditorium, otherwise known (in hushed, reverent tones) as The House of God!
Apparently, the Almighty has grown weary of those wild-eyed Pentecostals flopping around like fish out of water, getting "slain in the Spirit" all over the sacred carpet. No, no—He now demands the return of the building through Samuel (or whoever's available) to re-consecrate this holy edifice, originally blessed by none other than Herbert Armstrong in his role as Christ's personal stand-in on Earth. What an honor!
Let's be honest: the whole place was Herbert's grand vanity project, a glittering stage to make him look far grander in the world's eyes than his actual radio-preacher-turned-cult-leader status warranted. Hundreds of thousands of wide-eyed concertgoers filed through over the decades, while tens of millions in precious tithe dollars vanished into its upkeep—all to prop up the illusion of a legitimate "ministry." Funny thing, though: Jesus Himself was never once name-dropped during those high-society recitals. Attendees would wander in, spot the gold lettering proclaiming dedication "to God," and snicker—then some cheeky soul, like Pat Boone, would sidle up and scratch at it to check if it was solid gold or just fancy plating. Spoiler: it wasn't solid anything for long.
Those very letters? Long gone now, lovingly transplanted to adorn the walls of Gerald Flurry's pint-sized knockoff auditorium in Edmond, Oklahoma—flanked by those exquisite Baccarat candelabras originally commissioned for the Shah of Iran's 2,500-year Persian Empire bash. More tithe-funded treasures sold off for pennies on the dollar to yet another splinter group. Recycling at its most spiritually economical!
And oh, the other activities that unfolded behind those hallowed doors—far beyond mere concerts and services. The roof, the fourth-floor machinery rooms, lighting booths, dressing rooms, prop storage, even the trench encircling the building: prime real estate for all sorts of extracurricular delights involving performers, students, and staff. Those shadowy corners probably saw more action than a Nevada brothel on the road to Vegas. Classy!
Then came the fireworks: raging ministers and the indomitable Stan Rader throwing tantrums onstage during the receivership crisis, as rebellion erupted between those screaming for accountability and the faithful insisting the church answered to no one but God (and, conveniently, Herbert).
The grand finale? Joe Tkach's Christmas Eve sermon that dropped the bomb: tithing wasn't a New Covenant requirement after all. Cue the mass exodus, dried-up tithes, and the sad realization that the gravy train had derailed. The place had to go.
Buyers circled—Church of Scientology, USC School of Music—but none took the plunge until a plucky local Pasadena minister and his Pentecostal posse stepped up with a "bold leap of faith" and snatched it in 2004. Where once COG faithful sang hymns about dashing babies against rocks (blessed be!), the halls now echoed with pogoing, holy laughter, gold dust spewing from mouths, and glossolalia in full alien-tongue stereo. From Armstrong-era prophecy to full-on charismatic circus—what a glorious glow-up!
But wait—there's still hope for the purists! Now, dear brethren, you can help reclaim this sacred ground! Redeem it! Rededicate it to the one true God as the very spot where Jesus will touchdown on His white horse, sword gleaming, ready to smite every last unbeliever in a blaze of apocalyptic glory!
What an unparalleled opportunity to etch your name in eternity! Give like you've never given before—God's work (and this real estate rescue) hangs in the balance! Don't delay; the end times are expensive, and the checkbooks won't write themselves!
Help support the Work of GodI am excited to announce I will now be accepting tithes and offerings, and other donations, to raise funds for a special building fund.Ambassador Auditorium is for sale.
now this building was built by the generous donations of the membership of the Worldwide Church of God. I would like to bring it back to us.It was consecrated to God for HOLY USE, and to have those with the Holy Spirit assembling there.In Haggai 2:19, we read “Is the seed yet in the barn?” And in Malachi 3:8-12, we who have the Holy Spirit of God are COMMANDED to bring tithes and offerings into the storehouse, so that the SPIRITUAL TEMPLE MAY HAVE SPIRITUAL MEAT!This is not about a physical building. Groups everywhere is building physical complex properties, and you may be okay with it. But this building was consecrated and dedicated to God. We was robbed of it when those who didn’t agree with this Church left and sold it off because they didn’t value it.We do. And so I am standing up and announcing this plan to purchase it, and I need all of you God’s Holy People to help me with God’s Tithes and Offerings! All the scriptures point to our success!in Psalms 145:18-21 we read “The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth. He will fulfil the desire of them that fear him: he also will hear their cry, and will save them. The Lord preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy. My mouth shall speak the praise of the Lord: and let all flesh bless his holy name for ever and ever.”No one else sees value in this auditorium. They might see it as a white elephant. But for those who love God, and love His restored truth, and seek to glorify HIS NAME, we value this consecrated building.What I propose, is we purchase it, and use it. There is room for a library of Church materials, and room to be used for services and for Festival services.Mr Armstrong was inspired by the Holy Spirit to design and build such a building. And since it still stands, and only those who were wicked and left Jesus Christ sold it, shall we not jump on this opportunity to bring praise and glory unto God and to declare THE WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD spiritually has not been destroyed?!This would only glorify the name of God. While others say we are desolate, read what God says in Isaiah 62. I AM ENCOURAGED BY THIS BRETHREN! I need your help. Bring your tithes and offerings and send them to me. If you have any questions please email me at “wcgpillars@gmail.com”, or write me at PO box 126 Fairfield Iowa 52556.THIS IS A MONUMENTAL POINT IN HISTORY! Will you stand up with me and help me purchase this property, so we may move forward in the true Work of God? May God show you and inspire you brethren. We need to be excited and on fire for God! Let us not be Laodicea, lukewarm, indifferent! Believe God!in Jesus Christ’s name,Samuel W Kitchen
Samuel clearly has zero clue what he's signing up for with this grand delusion of snatching up the Ambassador Auditorium. How exactly does he plan to slap a fresh coat of paint on this aging diva when the early (read: endless) maintenance bills start rolling in like a biblical plague? We're talking a landmark that's been pampered for decades—now imagine the surprise invoices for HVAC overhauls, roof repairs, seismic retrofits, and keeping that famous reflecting pool from turning into a mosquito breeding ground.
And the association fees to Ambassador Gardens/Maranatha High School? Those won't be a polite suggestion—they'll be a monthly gut-punch. The place is nestled right in the middle of condo heaven and school grounds; good luck dodging those HOA-style charges for shared infrastructure, landscaping, security, and whatever else the neighbors demand to keep their property values from tanking.
Sure, the Pasadena Symphony rents the hall for their concerts, but let's be real: those fees are a drop in the bucket compared to the black hole of operating costs. We're talking astronomical insurance premiums (because California loves lawsuits almost as much as earthquakes), sky-high property taxes and city fees that Pasadena gleefully piles on for historic properties, and don't even get me started on payroll. California labor laws? Minimum wage hikes, overtime rules, benefits mandates—hiring even a skeleton crew of ushers, techs, and cleaners will cost more than a small country's GDP.
Oh, and if he dreams of hosting something ambitious like a Feast of Tabernacles blowout? He'll be begging Maranatha to rent out their parking structure and student center just to accommodate the crowds—because the onsite spots are laughably limited. Meanwhile, the upscale condo residents next door will be sharpening their pitchforks at the thought of eight straight days of wide-eyed "nutjobs" (his future flock, presumably) pressing their noses against windows, waxing nostalgic about the glory days of Herbert Armstrong, and generally disrupting the neighborhood vibe.
This isn't just a bad idea—it's a trainwreck of unimaginable proportions, a financial Titanic steaming full speed toward an iceberg made of red ink, lawsuits, and angry neighbors. Samuel might think he's buying a holy relic, but what he's really purchasing is a money pit disguised as a concert hall.

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Good grief! This guy is mentally ill. Tim Kitchen needs to commit Samuel to a mental facility for observation and treatment. Surely Tim cannot agree with this ongoing trainwreck we keep witnessing in Samuel.
The Bible teaches, plainly, that in order to be entrusted with great things, you must first prove yourself faithful with small things.
Samuel can't figure out how to commit $500/mo. for a tiny little office in a strip mall. Only a fool would trust him with $45 million to buy the Auditorium. At best, Samuel is living in a delusional fantasy world. At worst, Samuel has become an agent of Satan, making a golden idol of a building.
I looked up the taxes on the site:
Property Taxes
Parcel Number 5713-014-026
Improvements Assessment $3,587,046
Land Assessment $10,488,595
Total Assessment $14,075,641
I look forward to the day Samuel has to hire gay and trans folk. HWA had gay employees that he knew were, but wasn't concerned about, but he never had to deal with the trans issue, like Samuel will. California will enforce it.
I have 1 million in my 401k, how can I send this to the Special building fund?
Sorry Sam but the church took all my money. Now I'm broke and too old to work.
An online check shows the Auditorium has been on the market for more than a year-and-a-half.
Maybe if he offered to rename it the Trump Auditorium, the money would rush in.
If even Rod Meredith could knowingly hire gay employees, Samuel should have no problem doing so.
How can taxes be 14 million on a 45 million property? The annual tax bill would be almost 1/3 of the cost of the property.
I am surprised Gerald Flurry didn't but it and
I am surprised Flurry didn't buy it and have it moved brick by brick to Edmond Ok
If even Rod Meredith could knowingly hire gay employees
It was more than just "knowingly". When Rod moved his church to North Carolina, labor laws there would have let him fire his homosexual employees, but he didn't do that. Rod seemed to enjoy being close to homosexual men. Flurry also has some very close, very gay employees. There seems to have long been a homosexual subculture in the WCG and its splinters.
You make out checks to Sam himself? No official charity will own it? That sounds too much like something Herb or Joe would do.
I'm looking for a nice '40 Ford coupe with a small block Chevy engine.
BB
Bob should get Radson to hire his local Witchdoctors and put spells on Flurry and Pack and Gerald Weston-to join Dr Bob, then they'll all bow to Bob and Put Bob on his rightful throne in good ole Ambassador Auditorium
Sam, walk by faith by putting in a bid for the property. God will perform
miracles and supply the funds you need.
what happens when say 1 million only is raised and it stops. Who regulates these money's ? It's called tithes and offerings so something different to a fund me site, Is this a scam going on>?
Hey BB. I would have a nice 40ish Ford coupe any day over Ambassador Auditorium lol. But with a small block Chevy engine? That is blasphemy in some quarters bro. Repent by sending in your check to Samuel. Cheers.
Did the Marantha church organization go south too? Sounds like the Ambassador Auditorium is cursed…..
Apologies, Harvest Rock Church, not Marantha.
Maranatha High School is still there and very active. It is one of the top college prep schools in the area. They own the Student Center, track, handball courts,, gym complex and Grove Terrace which has been turned into a state of the art classroom facility.
Harvest Rock ais looking to relocate to a larger facility. After paying off the mortgage, Ahn is selling the auditorium, which the church has owned and used for services since 2004
i think it;s just showing the basis for a tax assessment, that is the total assessment value is some $14m from which the taxes will be derived after applying a certain factor. .
How STUPID you would have to be to send money to this group. The "members" already paid for it once. And guess what. Because God was not with that "church" He allowed it to be destroyed. Just like all the daughter churches will be.
Can Sam or someone please explain to me exactly what he is trying to accomplish here? How would the ambassador auditorium somehow just fix things for the COG and make things just somehow happen? Remember when the glory departed from the temple in Jerusalem. Sure, for years it went on functioning as an institution before it was burned to the ground, but that did not accomplish anything. Isn't this like whitewashing the tombs of the prophets while dead men's bones and all manner of corruption molder within? So if Sam actually did acquire the auditorium in some way, what would that do exactly? I've no doubt that if someone were to come up with the money to have him buy it he would see such a donation as a sign from God. I think, Sam, that you could use such monies in far better ways to serve God's people and the world and to fulfill the great commission than sinking it into a grand money pit.
High side of the manic depressive cycle much, Sam?
It has to be making you wonder, doesn't it? I mean, it's just screaming at all of us! There are ways to bring this back into balance. Life does not have to be this way for you, my friend. See a healthcare professional ASAP.
Well he assembled one, a facsimile thereof, in Edmond out of red OK brick, at an exclusive postal address of 14400 S. Bryant...only 1 digit off of you know what.
In Wadsworth, OH you can earmark that to Pack's "common" fund.
Looked at the photo again and felt sick in the guts thinking of the abusive tithing system which funded this edifice and then all of the terrible things the fake apostles fake system did to people for so many years. This auditorium was built when tithes were pouring in from a growing membership and Herbie wanted to impress people with God's way of quality. .No matter 1975 the work had to keep growing.
Why would anyone want to buy this temple build by people who didn't have a clue what God;s 'work' was and is.
Does he really think his 20 members have $2M each to pay for it? Plus substantial fixes.
All good points and he has no idea what he'll do with it seems to assume it will save the worldwide system a bit like finding the ark
So it's only worth $14 million, and they are asking $45 million?
You mean Rod actually implemented the 1st COG D.E.I. program?
If so, I now feel spacially educated.
God must be tired of church by now.
Is Chè Ahn related to Philip Ahn...who wasn't Master Po, but he was Master Kan on Kung Fu.
Turn the old AC into a kung fu dojo. HAI-KARATÈ
Wasn't one of the issues with this building was the lack of adequate parking? I think it is a white elephant.
Yes, not enough spaces, plus, the parking structure is owned by Maranatha, so use of it has to be coordinated with them and paid for. Samuel has no idea what is involved with this building. He apparently thinks God is going to wave a magic wand and everything he needs will fall into place. Marantha and the Ambassador Gardens folk will kowtow to him.
Timothy Kitchen supports his brother in this endeavor. He is as delusional as Sam. Tim will take his COG archives and add it to the great museum of church literature that Samuel is going to set up in the auditorium downstairs in one of the meeting/rehearsal rooms. These guys have no idea how little space is actually in that building. It will never accommodate all of Samuel's desires.
The tax stuff is from the real estate add for the building found here: https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/131-S-Saint-John-Ave-Pasadena-CA/38028210/
Note: This post has NOTHING to do with Trump, Biden, Hillary, the Obamas, the Illuminati, the Trilateral Commission, Zionism, Israel, Sasquatch, Iran, or Bucee's.
Hey NO2HWA………..you left out Elvis. I have it on good authority that he was seen in the area of the Auditorium as the fore sale signs went up. Could he be interested in said building? Is he planning a comeback? The plot thickens.
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I don't know how Gary allows Mr. Meredith to be practically labeled a friend of homosexuals in the church on his blog. We all know that's wrong, but Leonard allows it. Gary, everything you allow is your responsibility. One day you will answer to God for all your wickedness, because you know it's not true and you allow it. God bless you, Gary, and enjoy your meal.
I don't know what you are blabbering about. It was originally stated that HWA had gay employees (his interior decorator, who worked on all three campuses and in most faculty homes) and others employed. As for Meredith, it is also known that there are gay employees in Charlotte, and the rumors were that one of his sons was, so there's that. No one cares.
My meal is going to be great this evening. I'm making a great corned beef right now as a preplanning experiment for St Patricks Day. Dia dhuit!
Why do so many LCGers or "former" LCGers (Bob-ish) continue to vehemently defend the reputation of old uncaring RCM after HWA had a fairly low opinion of Rod many times over?
Why keep pledging allegiance to RCM when Mr. Armstrong banished him once to Hawaii?
...."the lack inadequate parking"......indicates some Armstrong synapses long ago may have been missing. Or is that sinapses.....
How would the ambassador auditorium somehow just fix things for the COG and make things just somehow happen?
The answer is the cargo cult myth. "Cargo cults are religious, millenarian movements that emerged in Melanesia (particularly during WWII) where indigenous populations, having witnessed Westerners receive vast supplies ("cargo"), mimicked their behaviors—like building wooden planes or radio shacks—in the belief that these rituals would attract similar wealth."
Sam could name his new church The Cargo Cult Church of God.
No one cares? Some people do.
This is for those who pledge allegiance to LCG & to the legacy of the late RCM including our allegiant friend 10:54:00, take a look :
https://hwarmstrong.com/history/hwa-meredith.htm
In that letter to Rod, HWA resorted to using "plainness of speech" to sternly correct Mr. Meredith for habitual tendency toward the "get" way of life.
Look at how HWA himself chastised RCM a-plenty with the same scathing rebuke Rod dished out to underling after underling. Look at how HWA writes as if Rod was the CAL CULPEPPER of both WCG & RCG.
LCG to this day accepts how overly competitive Rod was in regard to grasping his way up in rank. Rod Meredith fits into the Tears For Fears 1985 song Everybody-Wants-To-Rule-The-World.
Do Bob & Gerald & Pack also fit into that same song?
The fact that Bob T. remained loyal for so long to the power-hungry, egocentric RCM, shows evidence of Bob feeling free to copy RCM's example...& pattern his own tendency of strife or "ambition" for top church leadership position.
LCG doesn't seem to "give" much during times like when the Australian girl's accident occurred at Alum Creek Reservoir.
HWA himself noted Rod aimed too often toward "get".
Bob can dilute the narrative of his own enthusiasm for power by blending it with the episode of "double-portion-anointing by Mr. Bonjour".
But if they're not careful, church leaders will grab onto top leadership position using an amount of "get" too. They learn it from each other, & from their previous "leader".
With a little will power any problem can be solved. Just build a parking garage over top of the auditorium. Church members have infinite money.
Yeah, where does the money go?
Sam will most likely not acquire the ol' elephant. But, he may get his name in some papers and articles, which is more than many of the ACOG leaders and Bob Thiel are able to do!
As for the parking dilenema, this is the new millennium! The New WCG can be the first Uber-based church in the world! Using technology, just like HWA used the radio!
1.59, you mentioned "give' and "get" many times. That is non biblical. America fought a civil war over slavery in which about 600,000 soldiers died and another 60,000 lost limbs. The good guys won the physical war, but master-slave thinking strongly persists in the country. I noticed such thinking in my Ambassador College trained ministers, though such attitudes do not exist on a surface level in my non American country. Biblical morality is that relationships are two way rather than the one way give-get. For instance, we are to wash one another's feet, a two way arrangement. The reciprocal pronoun "one another" appears over fifty times in the bible, such as love one another, serve one another etc.
I remind you that the mark of the beast is obeying man rather than God, so there are serious consequences for this sin.
...as if Rod was the CAL CULPEPPER of both WCG & (L)CG...
I'm just wondering. If one acquires hacked e-mail lists from the darknet and e-mail everybody with this request and most of them bounce and get autoreplied as non existant........do they still get to count as co-workers.....
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No, because they've probably gone off the grid, back to the farm and have became cow-workers! You see, Sam never learned to spell correctly, or to utilize proper grammar. The difference between himself and HWA, is that although HWA was also a bottom-feeder, HWA actually provided better education to his followers than they had ever experienced in their own lives through their own devices. In so many cases, when they took up with HWA, people were in such a hopeless state of affairs that HWA actually did add value to their lives while ripping them off financially.
Ya know, these wanna be leaders of today are just not inspiring at all! When you compare them to the contemporary influencers who hatch the ideas which actually go viral, you begin to understand what is lacking, what is needed in order to get a rally going. It's why we get to have so many hours of entertainment at their expense. It's like Lenny and Squiggy, or Urkel. One would think that in the contemporary return to conservatism, teachers of conservatism would be lauded and applauded. It's just not happening for teachers of Armstrongism, particularly the diy types! HWA knew how to make it sizzle and pop. But, then again, he was in the right profession for his personality type, and a natural in that profession. While he forced his followers, he never appeared to be forcing himself.
Ok 7:21 but which way did RCM operate in? Give, or get?
Nah, I was just reminiscing. Back when this end times building program was originally going on, I had a full blown secret street racing hobby, on the streets of Pasadena and other small cities throughout the San Gabriel Valley. One of my pipe dreams back then was to stuff a Cobrajet engine in a '40 Ford.
BB
So Sam wants his followers to raise $45m between them? Would that not be $22.5m each?
I don't remember supporting anything let alone say anything about it. So anyone saying I am or have, knows if I do, it will be public. I haven't.
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