Thursday, June 18, 2026

Narcissist of the Year: Bob Thiel’s Greatest Achievement Is Convincing Himself He’s an Expert at Literally Everything

   

We here on this blog love to take potshots at Bob Thiel, and for good reason. He is, without question, the Church of God’s most spectacularly self-serving narcissist. This man didn’t just wake up one day and decide he was special—he officially crowned himself the savior of the entire Church of God movement by “restoring” authentic first-century Christianity. Or so he claims, in between paragraphs that are mostly about how brilliant he is for doing it.

The Churches of God have certainly never been short on narcissists over the decades. In religion, as in politics and business, the people who actually move the needle tend to have egos the size of small planets. That part isn’t new. What is new is how Bob Thiel has taken garden-variety narcissism and turned it into performance art.

In literally every article he writes, every booklet he publishes, every radio talk he gives, and every sermon he preaches, the central character is not Jesus, not the apostles, not even Satan. No, the star of the show is always Bob Thiel. He somehow manages to make himself the hero, the victim, the prophet, the victim again, and the final authority—all before the end of page two.

And if you thought his religious self-promotion was already Olympic-level fraud, just wait until you look at his other great hustle: playing the part of world-renowned naturopath and health expert. Bob loves to style himself as “Dr. Bob Thiel,” complete with a Ph.D. in nutrition science from some outfit and a dazzling list of licenses, credentials, and awards. But when anyone bothers to check? Everything Bob says is fraudulent.

Last year, The Painful Truth site did a deep dive into his licensing claims, and the rabbit hole was deep and eye-opening. 

He claims he was registered as a naturopath in Washington D.C. back in 1996. True enough—except that license expired in February 2010. He still trots it out like it’s current authority. He claims to be licensed as a naturopathic scientist by the State of Alabama and licensed as a naturopath by North Carolina. Cute. Those states don’t even regulate or issue such licenses for naturopaths. The credentials simply do not exist.

Then there’s Idaho, where he claims a license as a naturopathic physician from Bingham County. Adorable story—except those were old, low-level county things from the early 2000s with zero real state backing. They were repealed years ago, and actual state naturopathic licensing in Idaho didn’t even begin until 2020. His “license” predates the real system by more than a decade.

In California, he boasts an “Instructor Credential in Naturopathic Medicine.” Reality? California does not license traditional naturopaths as doctors. At best, he can hand out nutritional advice while being required to clearly disclose that he’s unlicensed to practice healing arts. He got an enforcement case opened against him for failing to do exactly that on his own website. Meanwhile, he created his very own “California State Naturopathic Medical Association,” declared himself its past president, and announced that it was “by far, the largest association of naturopaths in California”—all while using his own home address as the organization’s headquarters. How efficient.

He also claims fancy titles like science editor for some naturopathic group and awards such as “Research Scientist of the Year” and “Physician of the Year.” Searches turn up nothing. No records. No verification. Just more self-inflated hot air.

It’s the exact same playbook he uses with religion: appoint yourself the ultimate authority, exaggerate or invent your credentials to prop up the image, then demand everyone else recognize that only you have the real truth—whether it’s about the Bible or about which supplements will save your life.

Everything Bob says is fraudulent. In his endless religious material, he’s the center of the universe. In his health-guru persona, the impressive-sounding licenses and titles are smoke, mirrors, expired paperwork, nonexistent regulations, and organizations he apparently founded in his living room. The man has turned self-promotion into a full-contact sport, and he’s somehow still shocked when people notice the emperor has no clothes… and no valid medical license either.

Truly a modern marvel. If only restoring “authentic first-century Christianity” worked the same way as manufacturing your own fan club and expired credentials.

Check out the excellent article here: Investigating Bob Thiel




26 comments:

Anonymous said...

It should be noted that those quackery supplements are registered in the Caribbean where there is no strict control like the US has, Bob has a way around everything.

Anonymous said...

Narcissists have been quite prevalent in the churches of the Worldwide tradition, since the founder, HWA may have been one the biggest narcissistic personalities who ever existed.

Eponymous said...

"Investigating Bob" is pretty hard to diegest...I need Tums for the tummy now...

Anonymous said...

Booby just popped his self righteous cork over this. Him biggum mad!

Anonymous said...

Looks like Dr. Bob cleaned your plow:

https://www.cogwriter.com/news/cog-news/banned-from-the-truth-and-painful-lies-anti-cog-sites-false-statements-and-slander-bob-thiel/


You really should verify information before posting it.

I'm not a big fan of Dr. Bob, but I do think he's honest and treats people with respect and honesty. His theology might be a bit off, but most of the material on his site is biblically accurate. I do wish he'd drop the whole "prophet" thing though.

Anonymous said...

These guys used to be radical outsiders to the mainstream. Now, they pretty much run parallel with the type of leadership most of our political leaders exude. The example set by HWA and his chosen lackeys and hangers on has turned out to be more prophetic than the actual spoken prophecies which kept members perpetually leveraged and unsettled.

Oh well. At least Bob Thiel's little tribal wars are not escalating the national debt as they leave us in a weaker position than the deal of a former president.

Anonymous said...

Still looks like money is still the bottom line. The poor are not mentioned in Deut 14:28-29; 26:12. Hi Bob....the poor are mentioned here...... Deut 15:7-11.

Anonymous said...

Problem with Bob is his belief is so overwhelming on him being a Prophet. He simply can't believe he might be wrong. If I'm not mistaken he believes he's in line with Apostolic succession, which he believes gives him Authority like the Pope. Even though he might know the dirty deeds of Evans and Radson- he can obsolved their sins through Binding an loosing for the greater good of Church Unity. He basically has admitted as Much. The Witchdoctors also I'm sure work their JU JU charms for him as well

Anonymous said...

I don't care how many sheepskins naturopath "Dr" Bob has, he can't legally write a prescription for Tylenol and his Theilogical credentials are even more dubious! I doubt he even has the $25 mail-in ministerial credentials from whatchacallitchurch.whatever to legally officiate a wedding ceremony. Anybody have info on that?

Hi Bob!

Anonymous said...

I've always believed that if you are going after someone, you get them the clean way, not the dirty way. Basic ethics. Works even on "the street". Respeto!

The take-away from this is that while we disagree with Bob, when called upon to put up, or shut up, he actually did put up. Does this mean that I'm going to become a member of his CCOG, or to pattern my life after his? Certainly not. It means I might be inclined to consider statements he makes in the actual area of expertise under which his education and credentials lie, and only to the extent that these areas have not been contaminated by his Armstrongism. In no way do his educational credentials enhance my acceptance of his theological views. IMO, he is only repeatng the theological views of people who were wrong. And, like my underarms, what a pity!

Anonymous said...

So, yeah. We can add to his credentials some graduate work in JU JU. You almost have to in order to get the total picture. Actually, is the witch doctory any worse than Armstrongism?

Anonymous said...

Did he treat Priscilla's plight about Radson with respect...

Anonymous said...

From the evidence seen to date, 5:51, no. Bob has addressed the questions raised about his education, credentials, and experience as a naturopath. Interestingly enough, there are some who question whether that is even a legitimate field. Some believe that that questioning is Big Pharma's whisper campaign to kill off a profit-killing competitor.

The institutions which accepted Bob, educated him, and granted degrees in the field of naturopathy did not reject him. The theological institutions whose ideals Bob attempts to teach and modify all passed on the opportunity to accept him beyond a certain level. They did not consider him worthy of a seat at the table, which he had hoped would give him a voice in modifying teachings and policy. To break the glass ceiling, he set up shop himself, removing himself from accountability to them, and attempting to appeal directly to their followers. This practice is frowned upon in the field of theology, but frequently utilized in secular business. Usually, it is done in business by those who had been provided with recognized credentials by their mentors. What Bob has done is equivalent to a long term dental patient, after years of dental care, deciding to practice dentistry himself, applying his own ideas to the profession along the way, then incorporating it into a practice primarily in third world countries. Honestly, post-HWA, the report cards of all the Armstrong groups are littered with C-, D, F, grades, and some zeroes. The snowball melts as it rolls before it has a chance to build. Nothing we've seen has distinguished Bob from that morass.

Louis Wahela said...

I make big mistake accepting da monies from Mulowzoa and Evans, Mulowzoa put JUJU on me cause me to only see the Kwacha I repents now and come to my senses, soon Machemba comes to his senses. We betray Hope of Israel cause Mulowzoa caused powerful charms on us. Please pray they take us back , Mulowzoa ana Evans only like women ana witchdoctors

Anonymous said...

Could 2:40 actually be written by someone other than Mr. Wahela...under a pseudonym?

Eponymous said...

Bob can post & showcase all the certificates & degrees of this expertise & that expertise without end, but none of it seems helpful to Priscilla in Africa regarding the travail she has with Radson's hands laying on the chest of the cute female cousin.

Was that a laying on of hands, willy nilly?

Terry Nelson said...

Hi All you folks on Banned. Yes that is Wahela, I believe it's one of his friends that helps him write in Zomba. Just confirmed with Sources that Radson has now fired Wahela yesterday at a meeting in Mulanji district. It appears Wahela was as he says cursed by the Witchdoctor that he says Radson hired. He said he and Machemba got what he calls the devils fever, where if you see Money you will do anything... Any way Wahela wants to come back to the Hope of Israel.. We'll take a statement from him , but he's still not allowed to attend with us or ever be in a leadership position. Soon Machemba will say the same thing-The big meanie Satana caused him to join CCOG and Radson. These guys are crazy of course. Bob might not say anything, but he can have both of them. Of course as usual Bob will believe they repented again, and again and say they are most welcomed🤣🤣. The Stupid show continues.. Radson is busy with the bribed Mulanji leader MR Banda. Most likely Bob will publicly publish a Radson photo spread of some village paid members in Mulanji. If Bob wants to believe liars, what does that tell you? Hopefully he'll figure it out soon....

Ænonymous said...

Does Bob read these comments?

We know he reads the opening articles for these threads.

He should see these comments also & see what a bad name he has brought to the COG, thanks to how his bland, stale but puffy & self aggrandizing & permissive mantle leadership experiment has heaped up grief onto Priscilla of Africa.

Bob lost my respect when he supports Radson's "laying on of hands" onto the cute female cousin's chest area. What a cute photo of a "pastor" Radson laying his loving hands "fondly" onto the female cousin...why should Priscilla bow down to Bob's gaslighting voicemail pressuring her to overlook Radson's laying on of hands onto another woman's frontal chest area.

Good show Bob & Radson, after all the supposed pro-woman stance we saw in Bob's many long-wind articles about women's importance in that splinter.

Would God place a mantle onto such leadership which includes easygoing permissiveness of Book of Enoch within CCOG? Then allowing a US deacon to rewrite Matt. 11:30 "yoke is difficult/burden heavy"? Also, high level members there celebrating Harry Potter at FOT in recent past. Good show Mr. Thiel, bravo.

Terry Nelson said...

I think Bob just uses that excuse about the lady being Radsons Cousin, everyone knows it's Patricia Sambani - Priscilla told him, the children know- If Bob wants to set the Record straight, let him Publicly explain the picture. Bob says a picture is worth a thousand words. So let him explain, unless he knows it's BS

Terry Nelson said...

It really is sad , because I thought Bob would never let something like this happen, especially that he sent me and my 2 sons to Africa to give him a report on what's going on. Same with the late Sasha Veljic. These evidences are overwhelming and child's play provable. I can only speculate on the Why of his denial. Could it be as a former CCOG member recently said. " You know Bob claims Apostolic succession and he believes he has the Authority to bind and loose sins". This makes the most sense as it creates a loophole where Bob can accept any excuse from Evans or Radson and have God's blessing or is it as Sasha Veljic stated-"Bob has been bewitched of the Witchdoctors ". At any rate the average joe wouldn't believe these lame excuses and they wouldn't hold up in a Court of Law. With all these crazy Shim Sham happenings going on in CCOG Africa, one must wonder what Spirit is leading the CCOG. Let's Pray all these Sins be exposed. Obvious questions to ponder. Why does Bob keep firing and keep welcoming back Wahela and Machemba? Why is Bob Gaslighting Priscilla as has been mentioned in this blog? Why did he wait years to contact Priscilla, only to ignore her and not believe what she and her children told him? Why does Bob accept the lame Excuse that the woman Radson is embracing is his Cousin? If there are thousands of CCOG members in Malawi- why is Bob allowing Evans and Radson to recruit Hope of Israel Members, and publicly proclaiming to destroy and finish Hope of Israel? Why did he allow a former deceased host to proclaim the Book of Enoch and Encourage the reading of Harry Potter by that hosts wife? So many questions need to be answered..

Anonymous said...

You know Bob claims Apostolic succession and he believes he has the Authority to bind and loose sins".

Doesn't this mean that Rod Meredith (and then Dibar Apartian) had that same power to bind and loose sins when they had the mantle? But that didn't stop Bob from opposing and then rebelling against them when he didn't like the sins they were binding and loosing. As ye sow, Bob, shall ye reap!

Is Priscilla being treated by Bob, similar to the way David treated Uriah? said...

Bob's pandering to Radson reminds me of King David wanting Bathsheba. Uriah was "in the way" of what David "wanted".

Bob wants Radson, he wants the world's opinion of Radson to be great, fine, clean, of good report. David wanted Bathsheba, Bob wants a good world opinion of this Radson "pastor".

Priscilla of Malawi says she was hurt by husb. Radson's game with another lady, and Priscilla's story is "in the way" of Bob getting Radson propped up as a pillar of the church. (is her yes a yes to Bob, & her no, a no)...

Priscilla reports being upset at her husb. Radson for his fiddling around in pics posing with the cute "female cousin"...laying-on-of-hands at her chest, eh.

Bob is sending Priscilla "to the front line" (like Uriah was sent in 2 Sam. 11:16) hoping she'll either comply with the gaslighting texts & voicemail, or get out of the way of Bob's big "Africa project" so that Bob can therefore have a "purified" world opinion of this pristine Radson fellow.

Isn't Priscilla almost treated as the ewe-lamb in 2 Samuel 12? Isn't Radson like the traveller, and maybe Bob the rich man in 2 Sam. 12:4. The two of them, Radson & Bob, mistreat Priscilla sort of like the way the ewe-lamb's well being was disregarded, so that the rich man (Bob) could grant a heaping helping onto the traveller (Radson).

What a shame if indeed Bob does feel his "mantle" can "bind & loose sins", & absolve Radson's game onto poor Priscilla in order to "further the greater cause" of Bob's big-time effort over in Malawi & Africa.

Can Bob also "loose the sins" of Book Of Enoch while that was occurring within CCOG's recent past?

Bob should simply attend UCG as a guest for awhile & simmer down.

Anonymous said...

IF Bob really knew what was going on , he'd still cover it up- the Guy is not a humble joe, he lets the Witchdoctors have free reign as he thinks it can't hurt- dark power is still power. YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARK SIDE.. 👿😈🦇👹

Eponymous said...

What is Bob's official stance on Ms. Patricia Sambani?

Where does CCOG hierarchy place Patricia Samani's position to be in the general day to day operations?

And what does she personally think of poor Priscilla?

Terry Nelson said...

They do know each other, as Radson had Patricia working as a cashier at Radsons shop.. Radson not to long ago was trying to get rid of Patricia also, but Patricia said she wouldn't go easy, I'm not sure if she's back with Radson. Bob considers Patricia as a non existent person or Radsons . cousin - it would be good to email Dr Bob and see what he says. I think Patricia has empathy for Priscilla and realizes she shouldn't have married Mr. Radson I think Bob best keep Radson single as when this comes out, it will only make him look worse. Also when ever Radson gets money from Bob , he buys a lot of things for his store, that way he makes more of a profit. It's well known in Migowi the character of Radson Mulowzoa.. But of course I'm the Talebearer even though there's many witnesses. And Bob left LCG because as he says INTEGRITY ISSUES, well look at Mr Prophet now🤪

Eponymous said...

Do we ever hear of Mr. Ezekiel Oanda anymore?

Remember, he was the fella who petitioned US members to donate funds to Africa as soon as he saw in the news that both Trump & Biden were passing out $timulus checks to US citizens.

Mr. Oanda secured American churchmembers' email address somehow and sent syrupy sob-stories & petitioned us with a sort of guilt trip to fork over to him or his projects, a portion of the $1200. & then the $600. we got from Trump 45.

Then Mr. Oanda additionally saw in the news that Biden issued us a $1400. round of $timulus.

Why did those emails get sent around the same time as the world news told of the US stimulus payments?

Was that a tiny bit like communism...or panhandling? Wasn't Mr. Oanda gaslighting us to hand over our dough to CCOG Africa?

Does Mr. Oanda have any concern over the grief Radson brought to Priscilla? (even a scintilla)?