Herbert Armstrong’s “New Covenant”: Divine Dictatorship, Celestial Nepotism, and Why Bob Thiel Is Still Pretending It Makes Sense in 2026
God’s favorite crackpot is back. Bob Thiel, head of the tiny and improperly named "Continuing" Church of God splinter, has once again dusted off Herbert W. Armstrong’s dusty pamphlets to warn us that America (and the rest of the world, but mostly America) is about to endure 3½ years of hell so that, at the end of it, he and his microscopic band of law-enforcers can finally whip the survivors into shape. Then everyone will live happily ever after under “the New Covenant.”
Wait until you see what Armstrong actually called the New Covenant. It’s the kind of theological slop that makes you wonder why Armstrongism talks about it so rarely — because once you read it, the whole edifice starts looking like a cosmic HOA run by immortal busybodies who never got over being mocked due to Crackpot Bob's silly utterances.
Here’s Armstrong in his own words, from Tomorrow…What It Will Be Like (and repeated in Mystery of the Ages):
It will not be man’s government over man. Man has proven his utter incapability of ruling himself.It will be Divine Government — the Government of God.It will not be government from the bottom up.The people will have no votes.It will not be government of or by the people — but it will be government for the people.It will be government from the top (God Almighty) down.There will be no election campaigns. No campaign fund-raising dinners. No dirty political campaigns…No human will be given any government office.All in government service will then be Divine Spirit beings, in the Kingdom of God — the God Family.All officials will be appointed — and by the Divine Christ, who reads and knows men’s hearts…There will then be two kinds of beings on earth — humans, being ruled by those made divine.Some resurrected saints will rule over ten cities, some over five…
What Is the New Covenant?
In short, under the new Covenant which Christ is coming to usher in, what we shall see on earth is happiness, peace, abundance, and justice for all. Did you ever read just what this New Covenant will consist of? Did you suppose it will do away with God’s Law? Exactly the opposite. “For this is the covenant that Christ is coming to establish, you’ll read in Hebrews 8:10; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts…”
When God’s Laws are in our hearts — when we love God’s ways, and in our hearts want to live by them, human nature will be put under subjection — people will want to live the Way that is the cause of peace, happiness, abundance, joyful well-being!
But remember, the humans remaining on the earth after Christ’s return — ruled then by Christ and those resurrected or changed to immortality — will themselves still have human nature. They will be still unconverted.
But Christ and the governing Kingdom of God, then set up as the Governing Family, will bring about the coming utopia by two basic courses of action.
1) All crime, and organized rebellion will be put down by force — Divine supernatural force.2) Christ will then set His hand to reeducate and to save or spiritually convert the world.
Let that sink in.
According to Armstrong, the New Covenant is not primarily about Christ’s once-for-all sacrifice, the indwelling Holy Spirit, or the forgiveness of sins through faith. No, no. It’s about setting up a post-apocalyptic theocracy where:
- Dead people who got the resurrection upgrade become your unelected, immortal bosses (along with true Philadelphian COG members).
- They “read your heart” like some kind of divine HR department with X-ray vision.
- You, the surviving mortal, still have the same sinful human nature Armstrong spent decades railing against.
- But don’t worry — the laws will be magically written on your heart so you’ll want to obey… while the immortals stand ready with “divine supernatural force” to crush any organized rebellion.
Christ and the saints will bring about utopia by two basic courses of action — (1) put down all crime and rebellion by divine force, and (2) re-educate everyone in God’s way.
So the New Covenant, in this telling, is basically “We’ll beat the sin out of you until you love the rules.” Or, if that fails, the resurrected saints who rule over ten cities will handle it.
The actual New Covenant, as described in Jeremiah 31 and explained at length in Hebrews 8–10, is already in effect. It is not something Christ is “coming to establish” after a future tribulation. It was established by His blood on the cross. It is an internal transformation by the Holy Spirit for those who believe — not an external enforcement regime run by glorified humans lording it over unconverted mortals. The writer of Hebrews spends chapters showing how the New Covenant is superior precisely because it does not rely on the old system of external law and human (or even angelic) mediators in the same way.
Armstrong took a beautiful promise of heart-level change and turned it into a justification for a two-tier society: the immortal ruling class and the mortal peasant class who still need the rod of iron (Revelation 2:27, 12:5, 19:15) applied when necessary.
And he had the gall to call this the New Covenant.
Armstrong insists humans will still have human nature and be unconverted after Christ returns. Yet the New Covenant is supposedly writing God’s laws on their hearts so thoroughly that they’ll love righteousness.
If the laws are truly written on the heart by the Spirit, why do you still need immortal stormtroopers ready to use “divine supernatural force” against rebellion? If people still have unconverted human nature, how exactly are the laws “written in their hearts”? It’s theological whiplash. Armstrong wanted to keep his favorite doctrines (Sabbath, holy days, tithing, British-Israelism, the “government of God” hierarchy) while also claiming the New Covenant. So he just redefined the New Covenant as “the Millennium, but with extra law enforcement and resurrected middle managers.”
This is where it gets truly pathetic. Bob Thiel didn’t invent this stuff. He inherited a broken theological framework from a man who declared himself the end-time Elijah, built a personality cult, predicted the end of the world multiple times, and died in 1986 while his church promptly abandoned most of his distinctive teachings.
Instead of admitting that Armstrong’s eschatology was a house of cards built on proof-texting and British-Israel fan fiction, Thiel and his microscopic following treat every Armstrong pamphlet like holy writ. They repost this 1970s-era fever dream about immortal city-managers reading your heart and suppressing rebellion with supernatural force, and they call it “prophecy.”
It’s not prophecy. It’s nostalgia for a cult that promised its members they would be the ones ruling over ten cities while everyone else groveled. It’s the ultimate power fantasy dressed up in biblical language: “One day we will be the ones with all the authority and no one will be allowed to vote against us.”
The New Covenant was never about creating a permanent underclass of mortals ruled by an immortal elite. That’s just what happens when you let a radio preacher from the 1930s–80s rewrite the Bible to match his authoritarian personality and his followers’ desire to feel special.
So yes — it’s no wonder Armstrongism is “filled with ignorance on the topic.”
They don’t talk much about the actual New Covenant because doing so would expose how thoroughly they’ve mangled it to preserve their own little theocratic daydream.
Bob Thiel can keep quoting the slop if he wants. The rest of us will stick with the version where the New Covenant is about grace, the Spirit, and a kingdom that doesn’t require resurrected bureaucrats to read your mind and decide whether you get to rule five cities or zero.
That one actually sounds like good news. Armstrong’s version just sounds like hell.
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"For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known." (ESV).
The Apostle Paul is describing the limits of human knowledge and spiritual understanding. In the ancient world, mirrors were made of polished bronze or copper rather than clear glass, offering a distorted and hazy reflection. The verse illustrates that while our current understanding of God and life is incomplete and imperfect, a future time will come—often interpreted as heaven—when we will have total clarity and perfect knowledge. This from AI. Except yee become as little children you shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. How can we as mere mortals, limited as we are, know what is ahead of us, with the certainty of what the Armstrongites proclaim as Divine rite? What arrogance.
Another day, s.o.s.! The time honored tradition over centuries has been that the garbage man picks up your trash. Apparently one garbage man actually delights in delivering it!
If democracy is for losers, why has Bradox Ochieng sought democratic election to Kenya's government?
He ought to pick a name for his church that reflects that. Like Dr.'s Waste Management!
There is not one real democracy on the planet. Not even close.
While I attended the WCG, I got the impression that the ministers were trying to define God's future kingdom. They weren't satisfied with making the present church culture in their image, but were also using their manipulative skills to make the future to their liking as well. Hence they helped those they were partial to, and stompt on others that they did not want to be influential in God's kingdom.
I also got the feeling that they were trying to sneak into God's kingdom by trying to get him to lower his standards.
I was in the PCG for 11 years just left… ❤️❤️❤️
Isn't freedom great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yet there you are, in the greatest experiment of democracy ever that allows you the freedoms you have. Your incessant bellyaching is tiresome. Go live in Russia, China, or France. and tell me how well you miss being free. Better yet, come over here to the England and experience our two tier policing and automatic arrest for Facebook or social media posts critical of the government and especially the Muslim invaders. You have freedoms we no longer have, unless you are an illegal or a Muslim and you are given government housing and assistance, so stop crying like a little snowflake and grow some balls. Be a man and be proud of your country even if you have parts of your democracy that aren't quit right. Unless of course, you are Canadian then you are in as big a shite hole as we are here in England.
Bob just doesn't care, he knows everyone on the Internet knows, Bradox Ouma Ocheing is running again just like in 2022- in CCOG you can be a Minister and still do anything and everything as long as your in Africa 🌍
We should make up some nice bumper stickers for Wadsworth and Edmond. It'd be cool to cruise the Giant Eagle around sunset on Saturday with one that read "Just Disfellowshipped!" Or alternatively, "Time to Pack it all in!" Or "I survived Common!" Maybe ride around Edmond with one that advised, "Pastoral Abuse? Be wise! Apostatize!" Possibly, "Would Jesus waste jet fuel on Irish Dancing?" or "Pray for the Tribulation!"
Here's an opportunity that's perhaps a bit more limited! Personalized license plate that reads "HWA-666" "HWA Lied"
Just get together and put up a giant billboard near campus.
Anon, Monday, July 13, 2026 at 8:31:00 AM PDT wrote:
While I attended the WCG, I got the impression that the ministers were trying to define God's future kingdom. They weren't satisfied with making the present church culture in their image, but were also using their manipulative skills to make the future to their liking as well. Hence they helped those they were partial to, and stompt on others that they did not want to be influential in God's kingdom.
I also got the feeling that they were trying to sneak into God's kingdom by trying to get him to lower his standards.
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Trying to sneak into God's kingdom?
Was Jesus Christ aware of something that it took some of us a while to figure out?
John 10:1 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber."
Is it possible that a lot of those ministers crept in unawares, like sheep in wolves clothing, and were perhaps only tares, or ministers of Satan (2 Corinthians 11:13-15), or just blind guides?
Time will tell...
John
It would sound like HELL to a demon.
Jesus Christ in total control? Yes please.
Banned by HWA unpublished? Darn right.
Peace and happiness? God speed that.
Is it Jesus Christ you hate or is it the fact you can’t deny entry to Herbert W Armstrong and you think with him around you’d be in hell?
There would be no need for Banned if the buffoons in current COG Leadership would keep their mouths shut and would stop saying such incredibly STUPID and heretical things. There is a reason the old Worldwide Church of God was nullified. It was corrupt and rotten to the core and that had destroyed thousands of lives over 8 decades due to its lies and corruption. That is why it will never be resurrected and why none of the splinter groups in 2026 are doing any significant "work" that impacts the world. That is why you will NEVER buy Ambassador Auditorium or any property in Pasadena.
There would be no purpose or use for Banned by HWA, because this site just tries to use these dissident groups to slander Herbert W Armstrong and the Worldwide Church of God. Like
There would be no use or purpose for Banned by HWA, if these cog groups didn’t exist.
You sensationalize their errors, and abuses, and spend your time redirecting blame back to Herbert W Armstrong and the Worldwide Church of God.
Your mental condition is targeted towards a dead man, and a Church you think is no more. When other churches trigger you, you roleplay “your Napoleon fixation” again. That sounds like lunacy and something a mental ward would showcase.
You can’t put those churches in their proper and right perspective. Not everyone is your devil. Your Devil is Herbert Armstrong, and your fixation is a toxic fixation. You burn the effigy you keep in your mind again and again and again.
No one was hurt by this Church. The actions that hurt people are actions condemned by this Church.
I have found more abuses coming from the changes in the 1990’s, because they started accepting the behaviors and actions that hurt people.
The abusers just lied and said “it was you, not me”.
And they came forward like the trans-movement.
Then cried abuse and hate when people rejected their filth.
Not only did they abuse people, but they created a pedophile environment. They targeted the kids. I have first eye witness to how they targeted kids, and how they tried to destroy families! The only thing that held us together in love and peace, was the way Herbert W Armstrong taught and something my parents would not compromise in.
Now the perverts accuse falsely of Mr Armstrong. But no, they are the pedophiles, and they fed thousands of kids into the Epstein System, because they wanted change to be accepted.
These splinter groups, are just those who facilitate the perverts of this world. They are doing things the Worldwide Church of God condemns and disapproves of.
And we are still alive. While you go further into the “trans-movement”, and pedophile rings. We survived the merchandising of our bodies.
Keep your eyes on the tv screen.
Take your medication, because your fixation is living baby! And we won’t be destroyed!
You’ve got a lot of confidence Samuel, for a guy with almost no followers and an already failed, hilarious bid to buy the old auditorium. We laugh at your moronic attempts to resurrect, not a spiritual organism, but a physical name. Keep talking, it gives us something to laugh at. I remember you from your camp days in PCG. I’ve been out of that lunacy for a while, and we laughed at you then, and we still are. Some things never change.
I was always good at consistency.
Is it just me, or does anyone else notice that Sam's intelligence seems to be diminishing?
This specific blog, Banned by HWA only started in the aftermath of the UCG/COGWA split.
The funny thing is, if Fra Heribertus suddenly came back to life to finish his commission (he did admire Elbert Hubbard!), he'd be laughing his fat ass off about misguided people such as Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, and especially this new annoying little mosquito, Samuel Kitchen.
Well, Herbie was complicated, and he'd also simultaneously be filled with self-righteous indignation against them, chuckling while sitting on the toilet, but, you know......... What goes on in the bathroom is supposed to stay in the bathroom! Not be preached as gospel.
Nah. It was already in progress well before the split, and reported on it, 10:52. I remember well because I learned from one of Gary's posts that my Dad had gone with COGWA.
That was when it started, the UCG/COGWA split took months, if not years to fully develop.
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