Friday, October 9, 2026

Bwana Bob’s Sabbatarian Superheroes Storm the Vatican Gates


By a Concerned Brother 
Who Can Actually Read Primary Sources


Bob Thiel (a.k.a. COGwriter, a.k.a. the man who somehow keeps discovering that every interesting early Christian was secretly a proto-Armstrongite) has once again delivered a masterclass in selective historiography. In his latest article, he assures us that Church of God sabbatarians "confronted the Bishops of Rome" about the Sabbath. The actual historical record? It shows people arguing about the date of Passover/Easter, not marching into Rome waving seventh-day Sabbath tracts while demanding the Bishop of Rome keep the weekly rest day. 

Let's walk through the parade of "sabbatarian" heroes Thiel has assembled. 

Polycarp of Smyrna vs. Anicetus: The Great Sabbath Showdown That Wasn't 

Polycarp, the aged bishop of Smyrna and disciple of John, did indeed travel to Rome and meet with Anicetus. They disagreed. They parted in peace. Anicetus even let Polycarp celebrate the Eucharist in the Roman church out of respect.

 What were they arguing about? Whether the annual Christian Passover (Pascha) should be observed on the 14th of Nisan (the Quartodeciman position, common in Asia Minor) or on the following Sunday. Irenaeus, who knew Polycarp, recorded this. Eusebius preserved it. Britannica summarizes it. No one-not Irenaeus, not Eusebius, not any early source-describes this as a confrontation over the weekly Sabbath. Thiel's version turns a calm, respectful disagreement between two bishops who both claimed apostolic tradition into evidence that "Sabbatarian/Church of God leaders" were standing up to Rome about the seventh day. Polycarp was not leading a separate sabbatarian sect outside the mainstream church of his day. He was a highly respected bishop within it.

Polycrates of Ephesus and the Same Exact Argument, Round Two 

Decades later, Polycrates of Ephesus wrote to Victor of Rome defending the same Quartodeciman practice-keeping the annual feast on the 14th-citing Philip, John, Polycarp, and other "great lights" of Asia who had done likewise. Victor threatened to cut them off. Others (including Irenaeus) told Victor to calm down. The churches of Asia held their ground on the annual observance. Again, the primary sources (Eusebius, Church History V.24) are explicit: this is about the date of the Paschal feast, not the weekly Sabbath. 

Polycrates even notes that his relatives "always observed the day when the people put away the leaven." That is a reference to the annual Feast of Unleavened Bread timing, not "we kept Saturday every week and Rome hated us for it." Thiel lists nine bullet points about Polycrates' fidelity to the Gospel and refusal to submit to Rome. All of them are about the annual festival date. The weekly Sabbath is simply inserted into the narrative by Thiel's framing. 

The Supporting Cast of Late and Dubious Claims 

  • Pius I: Later traditions (especially the 6th-century Liber Pontificalis) credit him with decreeing Easter on Sunday. Early sources show that he and his predecessors did not themselves observe Nisan 14 but stayed in peace with those who did. Thiel's claim that Pius forced converts to renounce the biblical Sabbath is an inference drawn from a secondary modern summary, not a primary confrontation by sabbatarians. 
  • Eleutherius and unclean meats: The Liber Pontificalis (again, centuries later) attributes to him a decree that Christians need not reject any food as unclean. Scholars widely regard this as likely anachronistic-possibly retrojected from later concerns. It is not strong evidence of a specific sabbatarian showdown. 
  • Sylvester I and the desposyni: Thiel leans on Malachi Martin's The Decline and Fall of the Roman Church, which describes a 318 meeting between Sylvester and Jewish Christian leaders descended from Jesus' family. Martin himself notes that the interview "was not, as far as we know, recorded." There is no contemporary source. Martin was a colorful and frequently controversial figure whose historical reconstructions often lack documentation. This is not the kind of evidence that holds up under scrutiny. 
  • Cathari and Paulicians: These were later groups that opposed the Roman Church on various grounds (dualism, rejection of sacraments and images, etc.). They were not "Church of God sabbatarians" maintaining an unbroken seventh-day Sabbath lineage from the apostles. Armstrongite literature has long appropriated various dissenting groups for the succession chart; the actual doctrines rarely match the modern COG package. 

The Actual Pattern 

The early sources show a real and significant dispute in the second century over the annual Christian Passover date, with Asia Minor defending a practice linked to the Jewish calendar and Rome preferring a Sunday-centered observance tied to the resurrection. That dispute is well attested. What is not well attested is a parallel, organized movement of "Church of God sabbatarians" specifically confronting the bishops of Rome over the weekly seventh-day Sabbath as a binding New Covenant requirement. 

Early Gentile Christian writings (Ignatius, the Didache, Justin Martyr, and others) predominantly point to Sunday as the day of Christian assembly. Jewish Christians retained more of the older practices for a time. The Quartodeciman controversy was real; Thiel's rebranding of it as proof of a distinct sabbatarian "true church" confronting Rome on the Sabbath is the Armstrongite myth at work-taking real historical figures who disagreed with Rome on one issue and inserting them into the required succession narrative. 

Bwana Bob's article is less history than theological wish-fulfillment: every bishop who ever argued with Rome about anything Jewish-adjacent becomes a proto-COG sabbatarian hero, and every later heretical group that hated Rome becomes evidence of the remnant. The primary sources simply do not support the claim as stated

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Great post, thank you. I wonder has Dr Thiel read Acts 15 or Galatians?
Rather clear. Indeed the whole New Testament is rather clear on this issue of law and sabbath keeping. Oh yes the early church did keep the seventh day as a day of rest, they were predominantly Jewish. But scripture is clear. I observe the seventh day. But my salvation is in Christ. The believers are justified from what the law could never do etc etc etc and so on……….for some that is obviously not enough lol.

Anonymous said...

Spiritual Masturbation! Fantasizing about the Antenicene Fathers being COGlodytes instead of proto-Catholics. Catholic actually means "Universal". They were the OG UCG, Universal Church of God!

Anonymous said...

If you study much history from different sources you find that the so-called experts wildly disagree on some very basic facts, even in the last century. It only proves that much of history is lies, just as much of the current news is politically motivated lies. It is lunacy to think that our salvation depends on which version of religious fake history or other fake history we believe.

Anonymous said...

There are certain people who get into all manner of pseudo facts, so that they can appear to be experts and garner attention and followers. Basically, that was the HWA playbook. Of interest is the fact that he did have a definite influence on mainstream evangelists both in popularizing the tithing doctrine, and his interpretation of Daniel and Revelation, using them both in tandem for his own manipulative purposes.

Bob Thiel simply continues that tradition, attempting to embelish it along the way. It is unlikely that he would discontinue teaching anything to which he has seized upon even in the face of correction by those with superior knowledge to his own. We've witnessed this in times past with elements of history. That appears to be one of his favorite toys. Fortunately, the little flames he attempts to fan do not catch. Hobbies generally are practiced for one's own amusement, especially religious ones, which tend to be inflicted upon others. bu those with delusions of grandeur. Armstrongism has been demonstrated to corrupt certain aspects of innate human goodness, producing totalitarian leadership, and checkmated beliefs which pervert the soul. It is a shame, and they have put it together in such a way as to make it difficult escape it.

Anonymous said...

Thiel and the other Armstrongites don't get it. It's your personal relationship with God that matters.No amount of Sabbath and holy day observance is going to matter. Theil is blinded by his Satanic henchman in Africa 🌍 also to believe the garbage that he has thousands in Africa especially That Radson fellow saying he has 4,000 in Malawi. Bob Thiel your being made a fool... Why do publish stupid pictures showing 15 or 20 people ?, yet you claim thousands? Nobody but you believes this garbage... Wake up and donate your tithes to your local community and preach Jesus

Feastgoer said...

It shows people arguing about the date of Passover/Easter, not marching into Rome waving seventh-day Sabbath tracts...

Some of us wish COG's actually HAD tracts of some sort - easy-to-read short items to give to people, introducing Jesus and the Gospel to them.

Many "booklets" are wordy and complicated (especially in 2026), as opposed to "the simplicity that is in Christ."

Anonymous said...

Bob engages in stupidity on a biblical scale.

Anonymous said...

When someone repeatedly presents demonstrably inaccurate history as if it were established fact, especially in a religious context, that is a very serious matter — truthfulness is not optional when teaching in God’s name.. Unfortunately Thiel inherited Armstrong's willingness to bend and twist history as well as scriptures.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, 11:04, I've heard that called by an oxymoron, ie "lying for Jesus".

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't it have been nice if Jack Chick had come into the church?

Anonymous said...

Peter Waldo put his daughter in a convent.

Anonymous said...

Yes he did, and set his wife up for life with realestate and income before he took a vow of poverty. There is no historical record of him or his movement being sabbath keepers either. He was at lots with the pope and his movement suffered for it. Still remnants existing today of the movement which are decidedly in the Protestant groupings. What we are seeing now is how flawed the Armstrong history model was. At the click of a mouse a lot of their theories are falling down.

Phinnpoy said...

The Cathars were, according to most scholars who have studied them, were gnostics. There's no way they could be ancient COG's, let alone conventional Christians.

Anonymous said...

Is there any record of an African witch doctor being converted to Jewish Christianity in the first few centuries of the common era? That might prove very encouraging to Bob's followers in Africa!

Anonymous said...

2:47 Wolverton or whoever it was that drew the illustrations for the 1975 booklet at least could’ve illustrated tracts for the WCG.

Chicks tracts and comics are great!

Witchdoctor Willie said...

Yes in our Witchdoctor tradition, Ogie Bogie the Great Witch encountered an Ethiopian Sabbath keeper in 289 AD. He saw his power of healing and converted to CCOG, Ogie Bogie is a decendant of Radson Mulowzoa. Radson has da Power

Anonymous said...

Mulowzoa? In addition to English, I am also conversant in one of its offshoots, Ebonics. In Ebonics, we'd call Mulowzoa 'Zoa. However, 'zoa with a lower case z is kind of a universal term for spermatazoa. To avoid confusion we could also call Radson "Low-Z", but when you think about it, that's kind of an insult. I surely do not wish to dis a W.D!

Any suggestions?