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Thursday, October 4, 2012
Feast of Tabernacles: Desperately Trying To Relive The Glory Days?
Bob Thiel, the unofficial "official" spokesman of the Living Church of God and world renown authority on Mayan prophecy gibberish and all things Catholic, has posted a series to pictures about expensive Feast trips he and his family have been on over the decades. A large percentage of COG members could never afford to do these kind of trips and are not pleased to have this continually thrown in their face year after year.
LCG Feast sites, as well as all the other COG Feast sites, are little compared to the glory days of the Worldwide Church of God when there could be 10-15,000 at a site. Now the biggest LCG site barely rakes in 500. COGWA and UCG have slightly larger sites. Flurry and Pack can't draw the numbers anymore either. There are the hundreds of loser ministries that are lucky to get 40 or 50 people to attend their festivals. Even after converting half of the African content to Sabbatarianism these impotent men can't bring them in.
You can see Thiel's trips here: Feast of Tabernacles 1990s
Training COGWA men to be MEN
COGWA has a men's blog up to teach men how to be masculine he-men. Apparently the years spent in UCG made the men weak and slightly effeminate, so this was created to help the men become "godly" men. Oh, and there's one for women and one for kids too.
The latest entry is a weird story about a COGWA man who orders some cookbooks for his wife and drives to a woman's house to pick them up. That's when the trouble starts.
Earlier in the day, I had ordered two popular recipe books for my wife, and I had arranged with the woman in charge to pick them up that evening at her home, as that was much more convenient than driving all the way to the middle of town. When I arrived at her house, it was already pitch dark. The woman came out with the books to give to me. I requested the use of her toilet.Most COG ministers/elders/etc. have always been warned to NEVER place themselves in such a compromising situation. The WTF! moment here is WHY did he need to use the woman's bathroom? Go down the road to a store or a restaurant!
Without a word, she opened the sliding security gate to her driveway, and I drove in and got out of my car. “This way”’ she said, and opened the gate to her garden. Pausing, she said “Oh, by the way, we have large dogs. So just move slowly.” (Very funny!)
Then all hell breaks loose:
But within seconds the dogs were on me, and I was in a tight spot. Then suddenly the thought entered my head: “Get into your car—quickly!”
I turned and ran for my car, clicking the remote control as I ran. I stumbled and nearly fell with one of the dogs on top of me!
I ripped open the door and sprang into the car. Immediately the dogs jumped up, trying to get at me through the car door! I opened the window slightly and shouted: “Let me out now! I have to reach a hospital!” The husband appeared and opened the gate.
Shocked and bleeding
Shocked and bleeding, I drove away as fast as I could. I spent some time at a medical center getting treatment, a tetanus injection and antibiotics. The doors of my car were badly scratched.
My wife was absolutely furious! “This woman was negligent!” she cried. “I’ll bet she doesn’t even phone you!”
So what's a poor COG member to do? Take the bite in the ass and move on, sue, or forgive them in a loving Christian manner? There is a "Christian" story in all of this. Here is what the man did:
So have you forgotten what Jesus said about loving your neighbor as yourself (Matthew 22:39)?
Jesus told us in Matthew 5:46, “If you love [only] those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors [scoundrels] do the same?” Instead: “Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you” (Luke 6:27)—then you can call yourself a Christian.
And what about forgiving and forgetting? The Lord has forgiven your sins completely! And He expects you to forgive those who sin against you, or He will not forgive you (Matthew 6:14-15)!
You’re right. So what should I do?
That’s your choice. God will not force you into anything. But He is testing you right now. He wants to see whether you will try to take revenge in some way, or whether you will forgive. Yes, she was culpable and negligent. But are you perfect? Have you never been negligent in your life—and really hoped that retribution wouldn’t strike you afterwards?
That’s true.
In fact, this is a great opportunity for you to develop God’s character—to forgive and forget!
Thank you. What a tremendous opportunity I have been presented with to show the Lord I am serious about seeking His Kingdom and developing the mind and character of God. I believe all this has been a trial—and I must not fail it!
Our pastor always says: “Keep your eyes firmly fixed on the prize: membership of His eternal Kingdom!”
Did the lady phone me? Yes, actually she did—only the next morning, while I was in the bathroom. I got a curt voice mail saying: “I have phoned to find out how you are, and to say I am very sorry for what happened.”
Did she try to contact me again? No. Obviously she wasn’t very concerned about me at all, or about taking responsibility for the incident.
And do you know what? It’s okay with me! Because I have forgiven her. And as far as I’m concerned, the incident is closed and forgotten. And I am so happy to have learned an important lesson! What I have gained far overshadows the inconvenience, loss of personal possessions, etc. “Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you” (Matthew 6:33, emphasis added).
Dennis On: "The Tiring of the Churches of God"
"...entire
Church of God phenomenon is worn out, tired, pooped, exhausted..."
The Tiring of the Churches of God
In hind site it was a
mistake to show where Matthew got his Virgin Birth views and how he made
scripture mean what it never meant, but that is another story. I did
learn you don't say, "Where do babies come from?" in such a
venue ...LOL
But it was fun and the
response was great. I got a free dinner out of it that evening from a
well known Evangelist type who wanted to know more.
It was the last time I
ever felt good about the energy and "we can work through this,"
attitude in the Church. A few months later, I was gone.
The Churches of God are
tired and suffering, whether they know it or not, from everything from
"time is short," to "We are God's people," fatigue.
It's a normal cycle and the one you see played out in the New Testament itself,
but one they never thought they would have to face themselves. These are
folk who have seen the hope of things to come blasted to pieces. They
have seen split upon split and suffered the loss of friends who used to stick
closer than a brother. They have gone from trusting everyone, sometimes
to their harm, to trusting no one. Teachings that were so sacred
have been trashed and replaced by those that most feel are merely a reinvention
of the wheel or simply bullshit.
The splits and
schisms (I once said "shits and splisms" in a study) are expected
and men who have waited in the wings for decades unnoticed now have their
chance to step forward and make fools of themselves simply because they can
read the Bible.
In my view, the cold and
unstable former full time WCG ministers that most wished back then would simply
go away, have risen to be the millionaire gurus of dozens. They are doing
today what they did back when and I see little life change or personal
introspection in these guys whose names we all know well. They dis-courage
their congregations with their "much speaking," and haven't
grown an inch in their understanding of the Bible in their entire lives.
These are not men who can admit that what they learned between 18 and 22 might
have more to the story than they were told. While some might be flashy or
mouthy, for the most part, the active ministry is ignorant of Bible origins,
background and intent. They fill congregations of people who, while
sincere, are listeners and not thinkers.
Ron Weinland talks to
his followers as a disgusted parent to the children who need to get it.
He is no teacher. Dennis Luker, a formerly good friend, looks and sounds
exhausted. Dave Pack, as ever, just sounds stern and in charge.
Michael Meredith's thrown together "Let's rejoice at the Feast in
Hawaii," is a metaphor for the exhaustion and boredom most are
feeling. His video was simply awful and whoever let it be the one they
wanted must be in a fog of fatigue. The "Jelly" video concept
is beyond embarrassing and the fatigue is shown by the fact that no one cares
if the church wants to make fools out of themselves. Few have the energy to be
offended or at least express the idea that this might not be all that Gospel
like.
People move around from
church to church and Feast site to Feast site hoping to find what will never be
found again. There is no security, hope, specialness or
inspiration. One site at which I have family took in $19,000 the first
Holy Day. Remember when one site could produce nearly $180,000 and most felt
we could do better the last day. I suppose we can say those high amounts
reflected our hope, firm belief in the Church being "THE" Church and
our naive and simplistic views about the times in which we lived. I had a
sneaking suspicion that since Jesus did not return for the Holocaust, He might
not return because of KISS or Queen, but I spare you.
At any rate, the entire
Church of God phenomenon is worn out, tired, pooped, exhausted and sliding into
home base. Members always die. Even well known ones, but soon in the
scheme of things the men of renown will pass. A second or third
generation will take up the mantle and grow even more weary being stuck in
something they may not have personally chosen in hind sight.
Eventually it will simply be a memory in the tradition of Billy Sunday, Aimee
Semple McPherson and Benny Hinn. All the smaller churches and dramas will
simply be forgotten.
What caused all
this? Human and Ego and the human propensity to be deaf, blind, dumb and
stupid. It didn't have to be this way. Or maybe it did.
I believe it was the
True Church at one time. I could read the Bible and see everything from
Holy Days to tithing and Sabbath. Kingdoms sounded much better than
Heaven and I'd rather burn up in hell than just burn. While British Israelism
never captured my interest and I never spoke on it, it had a ring to it,
if you lived in the the 19th Century. I didn't see where the New
Testament cared about such things and it did seem contrived to me. But
then again, I thought, being Presbyterian in the past, one could take and leave
different views as believed or not believed much.
I just didn't have all
the facts I would have liked to make better decisions. The Booklets and
media did a great job in my youth of capturing my attention. In reality,
just like Bob Jones University two streets over from me, WCG and the COGs are
mid life crisis factories. Only those who never thought to think outside
the box or only allowed their church to inform them are still keeping
on.....and they are exhausted, tired and quietly wondering what the hell
happened to their good intentions, hopes and dreams of The Wonderful World
Tomorrow.
The COGs have simply
relived and created all the drama and disappointment , excuse making and
doctrinal evolution that we see in the New Testament. They have gone from
"soon" and "shortly" to "I fought a good fight,"
and now I'm going to die. Paul still hates Peter and James still
thinks Paul is a putz. John still views Peter as no better than Judas
and Paul still is the only one in the various shits and splisisms who thinks he
really is an Apostle, Prophet, Watcher or Presiding Somebody and eventually got
his butt bounced out of Ephesus...
Anyone got an orange
sticker???? :)
Dennis C. Diehl
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