Steve Elliot to David Hulme: The Fruit of This Organization is Bad!

Steve Elliot, a former minister in David Hulme's rapidly shrinking personalty cult, had some harsh words for Hulme recently.  Hulme has been dumping millions into his VISION magazine that has produced ZERO growth.  The ministry of Hulme's group was getting tired of this massive waste.

Stephen Elliott

December 28, 2013

In the Feast film, the media team told us that we must find words that the world will like so they will listen to us. Jesus said that the world would hate us and not listen to our word, just as it hated Him and did not hear His word—but that was the commission He gave His disciples (John 15:18-20). Seeking to be accepted by the world is seeking to become friends with the world, and scripture says that makes us God’s enemy (James 4:4).

In August I mentioned to you that the fruit of this organization is bad. Our membership has declined, not grown. After 15 years and an estimated expense for Vision of $3+ million dollars for salaries, advertising, publishing, design, shipping, PR, video, travel and whatever, there has been no fruit from Vision or the Vision website. The only new members, other than children of members, have come because of a personal relationship with a member—not because of Vision.

Rebbeca's Story About Her Life Growing Up in the Church as a Pastor's Daughter and Then Leaving the Church

Here is another interesting interview on Troy Fitzgerald's web site, Secular Safe House, about the daughter of a COG pastor and what it was like growing up in the church and then to leave the church.

Coming Out Conversations – Episode 9

Rebecca shares what it was like growing up as a pastor’s daughter in the cult, her experience attending the cult’s Ambassador University when the massive doctrinal changes of 1995 occurred, and her and her husband’s time teaching at a school in Sri Lanka for a year after graduation on behalf of the church’s educational and cultural foundation. Upon returning to Canada after being in Sri Lanka for a year, they entered the ministry pastoring their own congregation.

She then discusses how her and her husband rediscovered their passion for Sri Lanka and returned there to start their own school in that country, which they’ve now run for 11 years, despite having amicably divorced. She shares how she ultimately came to believe religion’s various concepts of God were unfounded, how she came to leave the church, and her current views about God.

Besides the non-profit school in Sri Lanka that she and her ex-husband operate from Canada, she also has her own counseling and coaching business and discusses how she came to realize her passion for counseling during the interview.

Rebecca is interviewed by Troy Fitzgerald, founder of Secular Safe House and author of Cults and Closets: Coming Out of Chaos. For more about Troy’s coming out story, check out his blog articles: How an Atheist Can Be Saved and Closets are for Coats.

A Brief Photo Essay on the Wildworld Church of God

And during the few moments that we have left
We wanna talk right down to Earth in a language that everybody here can easily understand

Look in my eyes, what do you see?
The cult of personality
I know your anger, I know your dreams
I've been everything you want to be
I'm the cult of personality
Like Mussolini and Kennedy
I'm the cult of personality
The cult of personality
The cult of personality

Neon lights, a Nobel prize
Than the mirror speaks, the reflection lies
You won't have to follow me
Only you can set me free

I sell the things you need to be
I'm the smiling face on your tv
I'm the cult of personality
I exploit you, still you love me
I tell you one and one makes three
I'm the cult of personality
Like Joseph Stalin and Gandhi
I'm the cult of personality
The cult of personality
The cult of personality

Neon lights, a Nobel prize
When a leader speaks, that leader dies
You won't have to follow me
Only you can set you free (?)

You gave me fortune
You gave me fame
You gave me power in your god's name
I'm every person you need to be
I'm the cult of personality (I'm the cult of, I'm the cult of)
I'm the cult of, I'm the cult of, I'm the cult of, I'm the cult of (I'm the cult of)
I'm the cult of, I'm the cult of, I'm the cult of, I'm the cult of personality (I'm the cult of)
Ask not what your country can do for you

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/l/living+colour/cult+of+personality_20084475.html

Herbert W. Armstrong and Garner Ted arrive for 1968 Feast of Tabernacles in Squaw Valley

Squaw Valley Falcon Fan Jet Flyover-Squaw Valley

Garner Ted introduces Herbert at Refresher to discuss the Systematic Theology Project circa 1976

Ministerial Luncheon - Tucson - 1984

Joseph W. Tkach speaks at Herbert W. Armstrong Funeral and assumes the Pastor Generalship

Joe Sr. and assistants Joe Jr and Mike Feazell

Joseph Tkach Junior assumes Pastor Generalship after the passing of Joseph W. Tkach Sr

Roderick C. Meredith starts Global Church of God

...but moves on to start the Living Church of God taking the founder of the Plain Truth Newstand Program, David C Pack with him.

David C Pack is fired from Living Church of God/Or Global.. I forget and starts the Deplored Church of God

And over the the years convinces the masses he is The Watcher, The Apostle and Joshua the High Priest as spoken of by the Prophet Haggai and Zechasomebody

Mussolini's classmate and wife break from United Church of God to declare themselves the Two Witnesses of Revelation

But gets off track for a time, times and half a time copying the lifestyle and expenditures of the Armstrongs, Tkaches, Flurrys and Packs

In the Spring of 2013 Apostle Pack doesn't set a date of August 31, 2013 for the Unification of all the splinters under his leadership and doesn't give 24 rock solid reasons why this simply has to be true.

The Apostle Pack disappears from the scene in October of 2013 whileTwo of the Sixteen Agreers on the Board of Deplored seek a way to prevent such future mistakes in the "timing" of the prophecy and not the content.  The prophecy is definately "ON" and  Apostle Pack declares God's Word as "clear as crystal" on this muddied topic

Meanwhile, large portions are of Ambassador College are demolished to be replaced by Condos

But not to worry...Dave Pack and Gerald Flurry....

...are raising up the past from the ruins and the ashes after having found the old blueprints

Pastor General Gerald Flurry faints during a sermon in 2014

Longtime confidant of the Armstrongs, David Hulme experiences loyalty problems in his own version of truth in 2014 and dis fellowships everyone but himself

The beat goes on....