UCG: Why are Kubik and others in Cincinnati turning a blind eye to problems with the ministry

Like normal in may COG's, the membership see what is going on and yet the leadership are so set on their agenda's that they ignore the debacles they have created.  UCG has had to do a major amount of ordinations to replace the men who left with COGWA. It now looks like many of the men they have ordained are not qualified to be leading congregations.  The members know this, but Cincinnati does not. And UCG wonders why members are leaving.

Comment from another thread:

UCG has not wholesale changed doctrine, but those of us here who watched the rush to ordain men to replace all the elders who left know that it just isn't right. We have people serving as elders and pastoring congregations now who many UCG members know have no business doing those things. There are still good, solid people in UCG, but the effect of Victor Kubik's leadership has set this organization on a bad course that probably cannot never be reversed or fixed.

Grace Communion International May Be In Hot Water In Australia

Grace Communion International (former Worldwide Church of God) seems to be holding on to some of their old ways.

GCI may be in hot water because its Australian branch still advocates for conversion therapy for gay and lesbian members or children of members.

For many years now various gay and lesbian members of the Church of God had shared horrific stories about parents who forced them into conversion therapy.  Violence and abuse were rampant in these facilities and yet the church pushed people into them.  Some were beaten, some were starved, some had testicles removed, some were electrocuted and some kept in cages and allowed no contact with others until they "repented."

Various Christian groups around the world now are rebelling against forcing youth and others into these programs.

California has passed a law banning the conversion therapy programs in the state.  This, however, is just forcing people to send children into camps in Utah and elsewhere.

School chaplain allegedly told anorexic student she was 'hungering for the word of God'

A school chaplain told an anorexic student she was "hungering for the word of God", according to Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young.

Senator Hanson-Young used a Senate Estimates hearing to quiz department officials about the Federal Government's school chaplaincy program.

She made the allegation based on information she gathered from a Monash University report, which investigated chaplaincy services provided by Melbourne's Access Ministries.

"This university professor says that she was, quote, 'speaking to a teacher and told that the chaplain at their school, when a student went to her to talk about an issue of anorexia, said she was hungering for the word of God'," the senator told Estimates.

Senator Hanson-Young also sought a guarantee that chaplains who speak in tongues and practise exorcism for healing are not being employed in schools.

And she raised concerns about Grace Communion International, a chaplaincy provider that supports gay conversion therapy.

"This is not really the type of program or ideas, as a parent, I'd like to see being promoted to my child," she said. 

Here are many first had accounts of Christian men and women forced into conversion camps and the damage it has caused.

15 Haunting Stories From Gay Conversion Therapy Camps

Nightmare Stories Of People Who Were Forced To Go Through Gay Conversion Therapy.

My Hellish Youth in Gay Conversion Therapy and How I Got Out

What It’s Like To Experience Gay Conversion Therapy

11 Shocking True Stories from Gay Conversion Camps

A Survivor Of Gay Conversion Therapy Shares His Chilling Story

I Was Tortured in Gay Conversion Therapy. And It’s Still Legal in 41 States.

#BornPerfect: Survivor Stories & Survivor Network

Philadelphia Church of God "No Contact Policy" Causes Another Suicide

This was sent to us by a reader and is from the Facebook page of a former Philippines member of the Philadelphia Church of God.

Another PCG member has committed suicide due to the obscene and vile "No Contact" policy that Gerald Flurry instituted several years ago in PCG.  His various goons around the world wreck peoples lives as they enforce this unchristian lie.  This is the 4th suicide by Philippine members in the last few years.

MR. PEDRITO CARA, A PCG MINISTER IN THE PHILIPPINES, CAUSED ERROL CONCEPCION TO COMMIT SUICIDE

Brethren in the PCG, 

We are so saddened by the news that came to us through one of your own people from Angeles City who could not hold the cat from coming out of the bag anymore. So we heard that Errol Concepcion committed suicide by hanging himself to death. 

We took Errol in our group and provided him all the help we can give: a home, a foster family, encouragement, and our love. But because he misses his family, we tried to turn him over to his grandparents who were acting as his former guardians. The Concepcions were initially reluctant to take him back because of fear of the repercussions of acting against the counsel of Mr. Cara. Eventually, Errol was taken by his grandparents only to bring him to his uncaring relatives in Lucena. With that, his situation became even worse. He was a lot better off when he was still with his foster family in our group. But we are not blaming the Concepcions. They are mere victims of deception in the PCG.  

Actually, it was Mr. Cara who made the situation unbearable for the physically sick young man by preventing his being reunited with his family due to his strict and uncompromising implementation of the irrational, illogical, Satanic NO CONTACT POLICY! That same policy has already claimed the lives of two other Filipino PCG members, namely: Mr. Rodolfo Marquez and Mr. Orville Lilangan. Errol Concepcion is now the 3rd victim of the murderous NO CONTACT POLICY of the PCG Ministers in the Philippines. 

By God's words, what Mr. Pedrito Cara and his fellow ministers in the Philadelphia Church of God are doing in implementing their NO CONTACT POLICY is MURDER. Notice this: 

1Jn 3:15 WHOSOEVER HATETH HIS BROTHER IS A MURDERER: AND YE KNOW THAT NO MURDERER HATH ETERNAL LIFE ABIDING IN HIM.
1Jn 2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
1Jn 2:10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
1Jn 2:11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.  

Brethren, please use some common sense and let the Holy Spirit of God guide you so you can see what's going on in the PCG with true WISDOM FROM ABOVE! 

CAN YOU SAY THAT SEPARATING A VERY YOUNG MAN FROM HIS GRANDPARENTS-GUARDIAN BY THROWING HIM OUT OF THE HOUSE AND CUTTING HIM OFF COMPLETELY AND LETTING HIM LIVE LIKE A PAUPER IN THE STREETS AN ACT OF LOVE? Where in the Bible can you see where it says that you can show your love for your son, daughter or even your parents by CUTTING THEM OFF COMPLETELY like what they have done to Errol Concepcion, Rodolfo Marquez, and Orville Lilangan? How many more ex PCG members will they kill? Who will be the next victim? 

Just knowing the 10 commandments of God without truly understanding the intent of His law is useless knowledge! You have to use GODLY WISDOM to see through the lies you have been made to accept and practice like the NO CONTACT POLICY. It is premised on HATRED which is the exact opposite of God's love. 

Your unrepentant ministers are all going to be burned in the Lake of Fire. Why should you give your support to the men who are worse than criminals since they are causing people to die the eternal death. That's where they are taking you!

On another entry on the same Facebook page is this story that continues the repercussions of the "No Contact" policy of PCG:

HE SHOULD BE BLACKLISTED FROM ENTERING THE PHILIPPINES

A request should be submitted to the Department of Foreign Affairs and the Bureau of Immigrations to declare Mr. Alex Harrison as "persona non grata" in the Philippines which will mean the inclusion of his name in the list of persons blacklisted from entering the country.

Under his term as Regional Director of the Philadelphia Church of God in the region including the Philippines, we have proofs that the church’s irrational, unconstitutional, and criminal NO CONTACT POLICY has caused the physical death of 3 members namely: RODOLFO MARQUEZ, ORVILLE LILANGAN and ERROL CONCEPCION. Despite the wicked nature of the policy which he would not apply to his own disfellowshipped son Paul Harrison, resulting in the earlier death of Messrs. Marquez and Lilangan, he still encouraged the continuing application of the policy in the Philippines. The death toll from this cultish practice has increased to 3 with the inclusion of Errol Conception who just recently committed suicide by hanging himself to death.

The ministers of the Philadelphia Church of God in the Philippines are going over and above the level of wickedness of their fellows in other parts of the world, as they continue to follow the examples set by John Macdonald whose heart is rotten to the core. The continuing influence of this man has remain strong due to the support of Alex Harrison who took over when the former fled to Australia to avoid his accountability in the death of another PCG member, Liza Fe Columna. Alex Harrison’s right hand man in the Philippines, PEDRITO CARA, is not using his own brain as he just follow the examples of John Macdonald and the guidance of Alex Harrison. PEDRITO CARA has lost his self-respect and considers himself a robot or a yes man in following these men. He has stopped using the guidance of the Holy Spirit in discerning between good and evil.

One day, Mr. Alex Harrison will find himself being held by Immigration officials at the airport and being deported back to his country.