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Church of God Spiritual Terrorist Blames Fires In California and Deaths Upon State of California Attacking the WCG in 1979

The liars and self-appointed spiritual terrorists that make up the leadership of so many of the Churches of God love to lay the blame on others for all kinds of ills in society when their own churches are cesspools of corruption and spiritual deviancy.

From Dave Pack to Bob Thiel to James Malm to Gerald Flurry, these spiritual terrorists work overtime to devalue God, their followers, and especially Jesus by taking no accountability for their own spiritual perversions that they try to pass off as truth every time their open their mouths.

This is the latest from the deluded liar based into Edmond Oklahoma, Gerald Flurry.  Every disaster that happens in California happens because the State of California dared to file a lawsuit against the church in 1979.

The Camp Fire is hardly a campfire, and Paradise does not quite live up to its name. The town in Northern California has been almost completely burned to the ground in less than a week.

Starting on November 8, the Camp Fire has scorched almost 120,000 acres in Butte County. However, it is not the size of this blaze that has attracted so much coverage and attention. Previous fires, such as the Carr Fire earlier this year, have charred more than double that area of land. What makes this fire stand out is its deadliness.

The fire has killed at least 42 people, making it the deadliest fire in California’s history. The previous record was 29. The official death toll could yet rise, as hundreds of people are still missing. Most of the bodies found have not yet been identified. Of the three whose names have been released, the average age is 63. Paradise is mostly a retirement town, making it likely that the average age of victims will remain high.

Beyond the Camp Fire’s deadliness, its destructiveness has also set a new record. The fire has reduced the town of Paradise to ruins, destroying over 7,000 buildings—the vast majority were homes. To put this into perspective, the previous record for destructiveness was set only 13 months ago. The Tubb Fire of October 2017 destroyed more than 5,500 structures—1,500 fewer than the Camp Fire.

Fires further south are also posing grave threats. The Woolsey Fire near Los Angeles has killed two people and burned over 90,000 acres. Smaller blazes, such as the Hill, Lynn and Rocky Peak fires, have also started recently.

President Donald Trump announced in a tweet on November 12 that he has approved a major disaster declaration for California, allowing the state to use federal money to fight the flames.

“I just approved an expedited request for a Major Disaster Declaration for the state of California. Wanted to respond quickly in order to alleviate some of the incredible suffering going on,” the President wrote. “I am with you all the way. God Bless all of the victims and families affected” (emphasis added).

What the president and many others do not realize is that God will not bless California or save the state from its fiery plight at this time. In fact, He is doing the exact opposite. California has been experiencing one disaster after another for decades.

In his 2003 article “Is California Under a Curse?”, Trumpet editor in chief Gerald Flurry pointed out that California’s problems go much deeper than wildfires. Multiyear droughts, crippling debt and eruption of racial tensions in the early 1990s are just a few of the problems that California has struggled with. Out of all the states in the union, why is this state especially suffering so intensely?

In his article, Mr. Flurry pointed to the unfounded lawsuit that the state launched against the Worldwide Church of God and Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong in 1979:

In an overt attack against Mr. Armstrong, the state of California, through the attorney general’s office, launched a massive lawsuit against the wcg in 1979. On January 3, that office initiated a sudden, armed assault on the Pasadena headquarters in an attempt to claim ownership of the Church’s property and assets as well as its continuing income—in violation of the U.S. Constitution. A receiver, secretly appointed by the court, tried to take over and operate God’s Church. Completely false, outrageous and baseless allegations of financial mismanagement were made—despite financial and all other required records having been regularly and voluntarily filed. No evidence of wrongdoing was ever found, and on Oct. 14, 1980, the attorney general dropped all charges and dismissed the case. Later, the higher appellate court ruled that the lawsuit was without foundation.

California is the only state that ever attacked Mr. Armstrong and his work. Actually, it attacked a lot more than that. California really attacked the living God!

The wcg was headquartered in Pasadena, California. While the wcg was under Mr. Armstrong’s leadership, God’s message was preached in California more than anywhere else in the world. But California rejected that message and actually attacked the Church! After Mr. Armstrong died, the very Church that he raised up rejected the truth that God had given through him.

God tells the people of Israel—the modern-day nations of America and Britain—that if they obey His law and live according to His way of life He will pour out great blessings on them. On the flip side, if they reject His way of life, terrible curses will come upon them. (Read Mr. Armstrong’s free book The United States and Britain in Prophecy for proof of the modern identity of Israel.) These blessings and curses can be found in Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28. Some of these blessings have to do with the weather. For example, in Leviticus 26:4-5 and Deuteronomy 28:11-12, God promises favorable weather conditions like rain in due season and productive farmland. But if the people do not follow God’s way of life, then God says that He will inflict drought and other weather-based curses (Leviticus 26:19-20; Deuteronomy 28:16-18, 24).

In Isaiah 29:6, God says that He will punish Israel “with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire.”

We see a “flame of devouring fire” in California today! We have also seen curses in other states, such as hurricanes Michael, Harvey, Sandy and Katrina. Mr. Flurry warned in his article that the intensity of the curses on California are a sign of things to come for the rest of the peoples of Israel—and the whole world. He wrote:

When meting out punishment, God begins at His sanctuary (Ezekiel 9:6). The Church Mr. Armstrong founded no longer follows most of the doctrines he taught! In principle, God begins where His own sinning Church is, especially their headquarters in Pasadena. And in general, that principle applies to the state where God’s sinning headquarters is. So it is fitting that God begins the worst part of His punishing America in California. The headquarters of God’s own sinning, Laodicean Church is there.

Is there a connection to what is happening in California and God’s work through Herbert W. Armstrong? The whole world must come to see that there is! California was saturated with God’s warning message more than any other state. Mr. Armstrong also warned the whole world. Now God is going to humble Israel and also all of mankind.

If Gerald Flurry would stop whoring himself at his altar to Herbert Armstrong and started to actually follow that dude he is too embarrassed to even mention, he might find a saviour filled with mercy, grace and peace, all qualities totally missing in his church. If Flurry actually knew that inconvenient dude he would not feel the need to constantly be proclaiming his creature "christ"  is coming back because it is really really pissed and wants to kill off most of humanity because the world has rejected Mystery of the Ages and Herbert himself.

The same goes for Bob Thiel, the biggest psychotic narcissist the church has seen in decades.  Even the vain-glory of Dave Pack and Herbert Armstrong combined cannot match the putrid narcissism of Bob Thiel who has never seen such a magnificent COG leader in church history as he does every time he passes a mirror.  Thiel, like Flurry, believes that every fire, hurricane, volcano, tornado, and earthquake that happens is a sure sign his god is pissed at humanity.  Like Gerald Flurry, Bob Thiel has whored himself out to the erroneous teachings he learned from the past and thus envisions his god as this pissed off old dude parked on his ass in the third heaven who is just itching to obliterate all of humanity in order to prepare  a place for Thiel and his minions to rule the world from.

These spiritual deviates spend every waking minute terrorizing their followers with lies and new ways to bastardize scripture in order to use it as a weapon for their eternally pissed-off gods. This is what happens when all of these legalistic fools masquerade as God's most favorite men as they reject the very one they should be following.

Can you imagine any of these fools practicing love, grace and mercy? Can you imagine any of these spiritual terrorists getting off their self-appointed delicate asses and getting their hands dirty helping clean up Paradise, Malibu and Thousand Oaks? There were homes of church members and former members in all of these places that burned to the ground.  What greater way to show love than to go help a former COG member reconstruct their lives? What a shining example these men and their churches could make.  Do any of them have the balls to do such a thing?

The Power of Belief

Did you ever stop to think about just how much control the Churches of God ministry has attempted to exert upon your life? 

Have you ever stopped to ponder the extent of their will upon your lives? 

How did this happen? How is it that we could have allowed men to convince us that they had that kind of authority over us? What was it that allowed us to lower our guard, to lay down on the floor, assume the fetal position, and allow these men to trample on us, to kick us, to beat us, to rob us, and to dictate to us - and take it for year after year after year? 

What was it that made us believe that they were our adult parental units - who told us exactly what to do, when to do it, how to do it, where to do it, and why we should do it? How is it that we rationalized such thinking as actually the right way to live? 

It is a hard thought to really invest time in thinking about without some degree of self-deprecation. One of the things that is stressed in cult deprogramming is to avoid the trap of negative thinking that cults - and abusers - trap you in. So, let's just jot down many of the things that convinced us that they had authority over our lives.  

1) We believed they were who they said they were. 

2) We believed what they said would happen, will happen. 

3) We believed that Herbert Armstrong was divinely inspired and appointed. 

4) We believed that because Herbert Armstrong was divinely inspired and appointed, then those who he ordained were also divinely inspired and appointed. 

5) We believed that because those who were ordained were also divinely inspired and appointed, then their words were as good as from God Himself. 

6) We believed that the judgements that the ministry handed down were bound in Heaven, therefore, they had to be right, even if we knew they were not. 

7) We believed they knew what they were talking about - in bible knowledge, in counseling, in marriage, in child rearing, in life. 

8) We believed in the reality they wrote for us. 

It all came down to one word - belief. We believed what they said. We believed what they taught. We believed in the power they told us they had. We believed their explanations, we believed their arguments, we believed everything they handed down to us - the how's, the why's - and the authority behind every decision they made. We believed it all. 

There is a lot to be said concerning the power of belief. Belief affects every single part of your life - your mood, your hopes, your dreams, your aspirations, your abilities, your successes, and your failures. Belief affects your fears, your anxieties, your insecurities, your doubts, and your thinking in every way. When we were convinced that what they were saying was true, we believed. 

We believed every prophecy, speculation, prediction, and fantasy they ever said or published. We believed in the method of biblical understanding - bible reading - that they handed down. We believed in the master plan of salvation they taught us. We believed their dilution of the Gospel of Christ. And we believed in how they magnified the power of Satan. We believed what they said about what defines the world, what defines idolatry, what defines paganism, evil, worship, and churches. We believed that we had to give up the rights of adulthood - our political, marital, relationship, family, financial, social, and employment decisions - to the total control of our minister parents. And because we believed this - this belief became real. What was once just the vision of Herbert Armstrong and a few other men turned into an alternate reality of - for those affected - gigantic, life-changing proportions - and for those not affected, an invisible part of the world we all live in with absolutely no power or authority. We believed. 

This power of belief - this power of delusion, which is what it was - was a chain of bondage that wrapped tightly around us, tightening it's grip with every sermon, with every counsel, with every interaction, with every bound friendship, relationship, doctrine and dogma. What they said for us, is what it was. And because of this, we gave up who we were for their lies, for their scams, for their pocketbooks, and for their lives of luxury. 

We know for an absolute fact now that our belief was wholly and absolutely incorrect. British Israelism has been thoroughly and scientifically refuted in irrefutable analysis. Herbert's "world tomorrow" which was guaranteed to come in the 20th century did not. The church that "no man could shut down" was shut down by one man. The Worldwide Church of God as it was is no more. None of us were supposed to be here right now. Right now, we were supposed to be with Christ on this earth, cleaning up the tribulation, well into the first 40 years of "The World Tomorrow". We would have 30-40 year-olds who only knew life in this Millennium, with tame tigers and lions, spirit beings judging and disciplining, and lots of fountains and floral gardens everywhere under crystal clear skies - all singing "Praise Ye The Lordo" and "Holy Mighty Majesty". This is what we believed. 

And yet the one thing we were supposed to BELIEVE, we did not. 

That God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For everything we believed, the one thing we did not, could not, and would not believe was the Gospel of Jesus Christ - who He was, what He did, and what He accomplished. And everything the Gospels said was true, which we as a church denied, denied, and denied again. 

Because if we had believed that - we would never have believed anything else that has been proven to be lies. 

There is much truth to the words of the old song:

On Christ the Solid Rock I stand, 

all other ground is sinking sand. 

And because we didn't believe the one thing we should have believed - it all sank.

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