Worldwide: The Unchosen Church Podcast - The Closet, the Cult and the College: An Interview With DJ Grothe

 

DJ Grothe is the former host of the podcasts Point of Inquiry and For Good Reason and the past president of the James Randi Educational Foundation.  While he has interviewed hundreds of skeptic and scientific leaders, he rarely tells his own story of how he attended a little Bible college in the piney woods of East Texas, called Ambassador University.  In this episode, I sit down to ask DJ why he joined the homophobic Worldwide Church of God when he was 14 years old - the same year that he came out as gay and the same year he started getting into magic. We also talk about how his background in magic and a magazine housed in Ambassador University's library helped to lead him out of the doomsday apocalyptic cult he had once joined, and why today, he says he's grateful for the entire experience.

Dave Pack: Brain Fart Heard ‘round The World

Brain Fart Heard ‘round The World

 

David C. Pack had to waft away the stench and admit, “Sorry folks, that was me.”

 

Yet another rushed “Prophecy Update” went out from The Restored Church of God last night. Before sunset in Wadsworth. This should telegraph to everyone that not even David C. Pack believes the words of David C. Pack.

 

Is this an outward show of a lack of faith? Perhaps he just doesn’t believe his Bible. Or the math. By just “hoping” and not “believing” what was taught, is he calling Jesus Christ and God the Father liars? Please ponder those things.

 

Let’s read:

 

We HAVE the picture, brethren. Events APPEAR close—actually very close.

 

Continue seeking God and doing His will, drawing closer to Him as the first kingdom draws closer. Paul’s words in the latter half of Romans 13:11 have been true for Christians in all eras, but have even more UNIQUE application for US. Truly “now is our salvation nearer than when we believed!”

 

REMEMBER the ever-present reality that we “see through a glass darkly.” Only one era of God’s people experiences the run-up to the Kingdom.

 

IF tonight passes, we at least wait for Tammuz 1 as previously thought; the case REMAINS strong. (There is even MORE PROOF Tammuz CANNOT change.)

 

But COULD we even move INTO IT? If the answer is yes, we are the people who “keep our lights burning” for HOWEVER long the wait!

 

 

There has been a consistent trend in how Dave approaches his own prophetic deadlines. He used to wait for it to pass and THEN do damage control. But as the years wore on and the failure rate sustained a rock solid 100%, he began to get RIGHT IN FRONT of his own date to wildly wave his arms, “I already knew it!” He did this at the Ministerial Conference. He did it again last night.

 

Let’s digest the announcement and read carefully.

 

We HAVE the picture, brethren. Events APPEAR close—actually very close.

 

Oh, really? What exactly is this based on? Was there a notable world event? An astrological anomaly? A literal fulfillment written about in God’s word? What is Dave looking at to give him the impression that anything is close or very close?

 

I am going to take that statement as hyperbole. And so should you.

 

REMEMBER the ever-present reality that we “see through a glass darkly.”

 

A quote from Andre the Giant comes to mind, “I don’t think you know what that means.”

 

At this point, folks in RCG should wonder if Dave is staring at the fridge and not into glass. The only thing he can see clearly is his own reflection because the biblical mirage always shimmers away before he gets close to it.

 

IF tonight passes, we at least wait for Tammuz 1 as previously thought; the case REMAINS strong. (There is even MORE PROOF Tammuz CANNOT change.)

 

The word “if” falls from the Inept Prophet’s mouth a lot these days. Elisha sat atop a hill and used that word with a captain of fifty. God answered the matter rather quickly. Maybe it is because Dave is Elijah and not Elisha that he is left on his own to twist in the wind.

If the men who wrote that announcement were more honest, they would have written, “When tonight passes…”

 

The words “at least” got snuck in there. The seed is planted for my earlier theory about Tammuz becoming a whole month of “waiting.”

 

The month of Tammuz itself “cannot change,” but the interpretation of timing and events will certainly change. Carve that one in blood, stone, and steel.

 

But COULD we even move INTO IT? If the answer is yes, we are the people who “keep our lights burning” for HOWEVER long the wait!

 

Anything “could” happen, especially when coupled with an “if” for good measure. Let me answer with less than 10 hours to go: Yes. The members of The Restored Church of God are going to keep waiting. And keep waiting. And keep waiting.

 

Another trick Dave uses after a long message of “can’t argue with it” and “impossible to see it any other way,” is he will slip some caveat right at the very very end that completely defuses his whole teaching. This reveals to everyone how uncertain he actually is: “for HOWEVER long we wait!”

 

Writers know that the last point you make is the one that sticks the most. Read the whole announcement again and here is what you leave with: You will be waiting after tonight.

 

The people in RCG have already been doing that since 2012. And 2013. 2014. 2015. 2016. 2017. 2018. 2019. 2020. 2021. When does it become “unfair” for God to expect anyone to tough this out?

 

As a non-prophet/non-psychic, I will use my superior non-telepathic skills to beam the idea into Dave’s head to send out another Prophecy Update before sundown tonight. I still have money on the table that “the entire month of Tammuz is still in play” will be the gist in the coming days.

 

No doubt another brain fart is coming. But this next one will be wet.

Marc Cebrian

See: Brain Fart Heard 'round The World

 

Minor Prophet Bloviates About Jewish Traditions And That Red Heifer

 

There once was a little crooked man, 

who lived in a little crooked house.

Filled with little crooked doors, 

and little crooked bookcases.

Who bounced and flounced from his crooked little chair.

Who had the uncanny flair,

To creep us out with his stare.

Our most highly favored minor prophet, preordained by God to come in these perilous end times after receiving a special double blessing as the Church of God's first Germanic/Native-America Gentile who was destined to rise from the ashes of the Living Church of God to be the end-time Elijah, Moses, Elisha, Habbakuk, Amos, and Joshua, to lead us into all truth about the Mayans, Jesuits, and Jewish traditions.

The Chosen One is back regaling us with his buffoonery over the red heifer, crimson dyes, and sacrifices in a soon-coming temple in Jerusalem, which according to certain COG mythologists will lead us into the end times so that Satan himself will return to offer sacrifices on that very same altar.

Crimson worm-dye, a key element for red heifer sacrifice; Developed in preparation for 3rd Temple
June 28, 2022 

 

On Monday, the Temple Institute completed its study of the Biblical crimson dye with a practical demonstration. The study is part of the institute’s ongoing Red Heifer project led by Rabbi Yisrael Ariel and his son, Rabbi Azariah Ariel, as the crimson wool is a necessary element in the preparation of the ashes of the red heifer:

The cow shall be burned in his sight—its hide, flesh, and blood shall be burned, its dung included—and the Kohen shall take cedar wood, hyssop, and crimson stuff and throw them into the fire consuming the cow. Numbers 19:5-6 Israel 365

The Great Bwana writes about how significant it was that he was in Jerusalem and even made one of his little videos on the new temple altar:

Sanhedrin makes burnt offering to dedicate altar!
The Reconstituted Sanhedrin performed a ceremony on December 10, 2018 to dedicate a new altar for the use of daily sacrifices. High Priest Rabbi Baruch Kahane officiated. How does this align with Bible prophecy? Daniel wrote three times that the daily sacrifices must stop, hence they first must resume. The Great Tribulation will begin shortly after these sacrifices stop. In this video Dr. Thiel, who has also been to Israel and spoken with The Temple Institute quotes several scriptures and explains why the actions by the Sanhedrin align with prophecy and the end times.

Then, in a dramatic turn of events, pictures himself as the south end of a north-bound red heifer and lectures us on innocent little red heifers.

Never has the Church of God had a leader that seems to deliberately set himself up to be the butt of everyone's jokes? Even Dave Pack, with all of his kitchenware sermon props, fails in the presence of Bwana Bob!

We do not mind though! Keep 'em coming, Buckwheat!