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With all the new crazy self-appointed Chief Overseers, Apostles, Prophets, Pharisees, legalists, and outright liars leading various Churches of God today, it is important to hold these agents of deception accountable.
Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders
It is interesting to watch as various Churches of God march forth proclaiming their law-gospel to the world. The Living Church of God does an outstanding job of this. It is such an effective ministry that it now has 878 people attending church, out of a population of over 38 million throughout Canada. In their usual slick way, LCG plays with numbers as they claim 50% of their recent baptisms had no Worldwide Church of God affiliation.
50% increase from what number? 5? 10? 30? 50?
Mr. Stuart Wachowicz led a conference for ministers and their wives in Canada this past Monday and Tuesday. This was the first time they were able to meet in person since the beginning of lockdowns. Forty were present in person at the new Living Church of God offices in London, Ontario, and another nine participated online, including Dr. Winnail and me, due to cross-border travel restrictions. Average attendance in Canada now stands at 878. That is up from 352 in 2001; and 50 percent of those baptized since 2005 have come to the Church with no Worldwide affiliation. This demonstrates that the Work of the Church to preach the Gospel to all the world continues.—Gerald Weston
Weston brags about the 40 people who showed up in New London, Ontario, out of a population of 515,000 people. Of that 40 number, at least 30 or more were LCG members.
Nevertheless, the law-gospel must go forth in power! But, Jesus always seems to get in the way of LCG's law message to the world or is missing. Perhaps that's the reason no one is really interested in LCG's message.
As an aside to the astounding church growth in Canada, the United States is leaping forward in amazing ways through the presentations that LCG leaders do in various cities.
Their latest mind-boggling impact this past week, out of a population of over 3,608,455 people, was 98 "guests" with at least 3/4 or more of that amount being LCG members padding the hall, who showed up for these presentations.
St. Louis, Missouri metro population 2,807,338 Cookeville, Tennessee 33,922 Blue Ridge, Georgia. 1,245 Springfield; Illinois 205,950
and even a presentation in the Israelitish nation of Australia
Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia. 560,000
Truly, this is the most awesome COG since the improperly named "continuing" Church of "god" was dreamed into being! The Work marches forth in power and majesty!
It is pretty hard to listen to a Church of God claim the world lacks vision when the entire COG lacks vision as it flounders around doing nothing except birth one crazy self-appointed prophet after another.
Decades and decades ago the church had a vision that was propped up by Herbert Armstrong's dynamic voice and vision. Then the epic prophetic failure of 1975 disrupted the church and downhill it went after that point, The vision was gone. Oh, yes, the church thought new buildings and exotic campuses portrayed a vision of a world to come, but the vision for church members started dying in 1975. The final nail was driven in that coffin when in 1986 when Herbert Armstrong died. Today in 2022, matter how hard any of them claim they are trying, they have no vision anymore and thus rejoice when one or two new people enter the fold.
The Importance of Vision: In Proverbs 29:18 we read, “Where there is no vision, the people perish” (KJV) or “Where there is no revelation, the people cast off restraint; but happy is he who keeps the law” (NKJV). Vision is the capacity to see the real future. That future is found in the Bible—the revelation of God. The biblical vision is the Gospel, the good news of the coming Kingdom of God (Mark 1:14) and the ultimate purpose of human existence—gaining eternal life and reigning with Jesus Christ in the Kingdom (Matthew 19:28–29) to bring peace, justice, and prosperity to the peoples of the world (Isaiah 9:6–7). Today, that exciting vision of the future has been lost or forgotten or never heard by most people on earth. As a result, many have no sense of purpose other than “doing their own thing” (Judges 21:25). The Sabbath is a good time to thank God for revealing to His people this exciting vision of the future and of His way of life that is a mystery to the world today (Matthew 13:10–17; Mark 4:11). Have a profitable Sabbath, Douglas S. Winnail
Our most favorite self-appointed Church of God leader in the history of the COG movement, so important that he was foreordained by God before he started forming the foundations of the earth so that he could rise up in these perilous end times as the one true faithful COG leader the church would need in order to know when to flee to Petra, or Pella, or wherever his creature intends to hide a few hundred Christians in the midst of an Islamic nation, is back with a recycled message attempting to prove when his small cult is the only true place a "real" Christian should be attending.
The end time Amos, Elisha, Bwana Thiel writes:
A while back, I received an email from a former Worldwide Church of God member that included the following:
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT SOME ISSUES OF MR. …. BELIEF AND APPARENTLY YOU DON’T AGREE WITH. I DON’T THINK THAT ANY OF THESE CHURCHES AGREE WITH OTHER SO WHO DO YOU GO WITH? …
SOME OF GERALD FLURRY’S TEACHINGS ARE COMPLETELY WRONG AND HE’S GONE FAR OUT ON SOME THINGS SUCH AS ARMSTRONG’S STONE REPLACING JACOB’S. MANY, MANY PLACES IN THE BIBLE STATES THAT CHRIST IS THAT ROCK AND IT’S SPIRITUAL. CHRIST DOESN’T NEED A ROCK. FLURRY BASED HIS THEORY ON THE IDEA THAT COME KIDS STOLE JACOB’S ROCK FROM ENGLAND. THAT’S AMAZING SINCE IT WEIGHS OVER 350 LBS. I’VE READ OTHER LITERATURE THAT THE STONE IS STORED IN SCOTLAND.FALSE PREACHER #1
I SAW A DAVID PACK SERMON ON THE INTERNET ABOUT THE 2 WITNESSES . HE SAID THAT THEY ARE IN HIS CHURCH RIGHT NOW. I BELIEVE HE’S NOW PULLED THAT SERMON BECAUSE I COULDKN’T FIND IT NOW. FALSE PREACHER #2
I SAW A SERMON BY THE LIVING CHURCH OF GOD ABOUT THE MARK OF THE BEAST AND THE PRESENTER SAID WITHOUT HESITATION THAT THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS SUNDAY WORSHIP. PERIOD.. HE MADE NO MENTION OF ANY MARKS ON YOUR BODY OR 666. SABBATH MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT, BUT THERE WILL BE OTHER FACTORS. YOU LEFT BECAUSE OF DOCTRINE. I’LL ????????? ….
NOW I COME TO … A FALSE TEACHER …
YOU SEE HOW A PERSON COULD BE DECEIVED?
PLEASE ADVISE
After months and months of running off at the mouth and publicly scolding Rod Meredith and the Living Church of God for IGNORING his demands to change doctrines and church teachings, Rod Meredith had enough and kicked Thiel's immature little butt out of the church in a stinging rebuke during a church service.
Immediately, martyrdom set in with the Great Bwana and the excuses start flowing faster than the water trickling out the garden hose in his backyard was doing. With hands and arms flailing about as he bounced in his chair proclaiming his right to restore the truth once delivered.
The Great Bwana responded to the above "person":
Anyway, here is what I responded to the former WCG member with:
Dear …:
As I have repeatedly written at COGwriter, I doubt that David Pack or Gerald Flurry are converted.
I consider that the only COG that is Philadelphian is the CCOG–though not all in CCOG are Philadelphian and there are Philadelphians not in CCOG–but no other COG represents the continuation of Philadelphia.
You should use God’s criteria, and none other to decide.
Here are two links (redacted) you should read and pray about if you are truly serious:
How does the Continuing Church of God differ from other Sabbatarian COG groups?
Does the CCOG have the confirmed signs of Acts 2:17-18?
But most refuse to believe and use their own standards.
Best regards,
Bob Thiel
The Great Bwana does not like anyone who use their critical thinking to discern whether it is right or not. Those that see through his lies are apparently operating on a different unconverted standard than he is. Only someone as perfect as the great Bwana can discern the truth.
Many have been confused and used the wrong criteria to assess churches.
Sadly, in the end time, in Revelation 3:14-19 Jesus revealed that even most real Christians would use their criteria, not God’s as they would be part of the “people decide” churches (which is basically what Laodicea means).
Nothing infuriates a self-appointed self-righteous COG minister or leader more than when lay members do not follow them.
The Great Bwana continues with another "letter" from this "ex-WCG " person:
A BETTER JOB IN BEING A WATCHMAN. THIS IS THE 1ST TIME IN 25 YEARS THAT THEY STARTED TO WAKE UP ON PROPHECY.
My response to the above was to tell him that the COG he attends as well as a group that came out of it do not teach much about prophecy. They also have a lot of prophetic errors.
No lay member of the COG movement should be following ANY COG leaders who place the emphasis upon prophecy. In Armstrongism the pathway of prophecy is littered with hundreds of thousands of utter lies and half-truths. The debris on that path makes it impossible to walk towards any real faith. Every single COG leader has been proven to be a liar when it comes to prophecy.
You are free to watch the Great Bwana's animation of himself telling another cartoon character how to find a true church. One guess as to which church he is recommending. Unless you belong to this church your salvation is at risk.