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With all the new crazy self-appointed Chief Overseers, Apostles, Prophets, Pharisees, legalists, and outright liars leading various Churches of God today, it is important to hold these agents of deception accountable.
Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders
Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, and Bob Thiel got NOTHING on CGI’s Bill Watson! Watson just delivered another installment of his series on the “prophetic advantage” of British Israelism this past Sabbath. According to Bill, Scripture and current events cannot be understood without this “truth.” Moreover, last week’s installment of his “Missing in Action News” resulted in a reprimand from YouTube and the removal of the offending material from their platform!
Bill launched into a forty-plus minute rant about news that didn’t make it into the “mainstream media.” Bill, however, is definitely a prophet – He predicted last week that YouTube would probably remove the content (which they obviously did). Bill’s solution? Everybody go to the extreme right-wing platform known as “Rumble” to view his MIA News!
Even so, never let it be said that Bill’s tastes in the news department aren’t diverse! He talked about ten thousand photos from Hunter Biden’s laptop that have been posted on the web. And, yes, Bill has viewed them all! He proudly proclaimed that this stuff isn’t a conspiracy theory anymore! According to Bill, the whole Biden family is corrupt – from the President down to his grandchildren! Next, he launched into another tirade about the Covid-19 vaccines (Didn’t CGI headquarters forbid further discussion of that subject from the pulpit?). He said that the vaccines were causing blood clotting and myocarditis (To be fair, these side-effects have been observed in a relatively small number of the folks who have been vaccinated). Bill’s source for all of this? The Epoch Times, an extreme right-wing website.
Talk about being outside of the mainstream! But Bill wasn’t finished! He went on to talk about digital currencies, and folks in Denmark receiving chips in their thumbs to use instead of paper currency or credit cards. He also talked at some length about the videos which Tucker Carlson and others have released related to the events of January 6, 2021, at the U.S. Capitol building. According to Bill, these videos demonstrate that there wasn’t any insurrection! It was just a protest that got out of hand, and most of the violence was perpetrated by FBI agents anyway! Bill also demonstrated his compassion for those poor “January Sixers” who are currently rotting in jail! His final story was on aliens and UFOs – taken from The Blaze (another right-wing site).
You just cannot make this stuff up! To be sure, there is a large audience for this kind of tripe, but the overwhelming majority of Americans regard this stuff as CRAZY! It should throw up all kinds of red flags that a platform like YouTube won’t allow this stuff to be posted, but it doesn’t. Bill just complains about infringements on his freedom of speech! What’s worse, the folks in Tyler just smile and pretend that it’s not happening! And, what does this stuff have to do with Jesus Christ and salvation through him? It is sad, so sad, to witness this descent into madness playing out on public platforms!
The Canadian wildfires were not the only thing to sour the air of Wadsworth this week. Ever-apoplectic David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God delivered “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 447)” on June 6, 2023, to set the stage for this weekend's Ministerial Conference.
For it being a 128-minute Sit-A-Thon, you would be surprised how much you could skim past without missing anything vital. Grandpa Dave's voice turned into white noise for stretches of up to twenty minutes, which explains why the two-hour message only had a few points worth noting.
• David C. Pack and members of RCG will anoint God the Father.
• The shot glass four-stage Kingdom plan is back.
• David C. Pack will die on the hill of 10-1-7-1000.
• David C. Pack has to be Elijah the Prophet now.
David C. Pack was excited to deliver the "final" Part of the Series on Wednesday. He has perfected the method of moonwalking his own ideas while making self-separating excuses wrapped in an analogy that hides that he is making this up as he goes along.
Part 447 – June 6, 2023
@ 00:24 I wanna give an analogy here that I been planning for whenever the last sermon arrived, and it has. There’s no more time…But it's what I call "The Move Move A Rock Analogy Um.” …with all the linkage between different prophecies or different elements of prophecy, it’s like moving a rock.
@ 02:08 You hafta be exceedingly careful with what’s moved per prophecy. It's very precarious to move one event that is invariably hooked to others.
Dave tortures the brethren of The Restored Church of God for four belabored minutes just to illustrate "Prophecy is hard."
For a man in his advanced years, it is surprising how Grandpa Dave has managed to stay in such good shape considering how often he has to eat his own words. They had to install an All-You-Can-Eat buffet station in the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium.
@ 04:11 So, in the end, I believe I learned how to do that. I learned enough through the years to realize that after all is said and done,there really are four Kingdoms…it is a Kingdom to Israel, and it does precede three measures of the Kingdom of God.
Think of all the ink that had to die needlessly these past few months because the Kingdom to Israel keeps evolving. 10 days, 4 months, you cannot know, 6 months, 10 days, 29 ½ days, 1 month, does not exist separately but is part of the 1 year. And the final resting stop: 10 days.
This would not be a headliner if Dave had not committed to his own demise in the process.
@ 1:56:16 10-1-7-1000 is immutable. I will die on that hill. That’s the hill I die on.There's no way the Scriptures change, or the Sabbath can change.
Part 447 must wait in line because Grandpa Dave is already past due for fulfilling his previous self-curses. Many in the comments sections are waiting like Jonah, wondering what God will do.
Flashback Part 423 – February 25, 2023
@ 29:41 So, I wanna state one last time, unequivocally, and I’ll just absolutely die on this ground. This is the hill I die on. It is impossible that Abib does not close with the Day of the Lord.
Flashback Part 421 – February 18, 2023
@ 59:41 But it cannot change the duration of the month.I will die before I believe otherwise.
Flashback Part 389 – August 24, 2022
@ 50:46 The three-Kingdom picture anchored around Trumpets is immutable. I would die before I would give up that truth.
If you happen to be standing near Dave when you hear thunder, take at least five steps back. Traveling with him inside a flammable vehicle is also not advised. Neither is sitting next to him under heavy objects such as a safe or piano. For prudence stake, just stay clear of David C. Pack.
David C. Pack is unique among all the human beings on the face of the earth today. With two hours to fill, he cannot help but toot his own horn. He was specially chosen and trained to lead The Restored Church of God because he doodies in the toilet, not in his pants.
Part 447 – June 6, 2023
@ 1:55:30 But, the days of {my} this man’s voice have to, surely, have to fit three days ago, [Parts] 446 and 447. Christ comes and finds this man so doing. Well, guess what? The Conference is starting in two-and-a-half days. I never could figure that out.
@ 1:55:52 Turns out it looks like it's the Conference starting early in the day. That's the best I can see.
Oh boy, Dave gets to fail again in the presence of the entire field ministry as they visit Wadsworth this weekend. I wonder how many brought their notes from 2022 so they could compare just how many thick black Sharpies will be needed to blot out what did not happen last year. The pages from last year should have just been burned since none survived the twelve-month journey.
I wrote this article about the Ministerial Conference one year ago today. Even though I am only an unordained non-prophet/non-psychic, what I wrote still holds, while nothing Dave said did. That should deeply concern anyone still in The Restored Church of God.
@ 1:54:10 Ten days before Tammuz 1 is a Sabbath dusk [June 9].If there’s more to the Mystery of God, what in the world would it be? It’s gonna take somebody a lot better than I am to figure out what it is.
Much like Rick Sanchez from Rick and Morty, alternate reality A Lot Better Dave will be opening the Ministerial Conference with a can of prophetic worms during “The Keynote Address” and “The State of the Work” to further prolong the agony for the visiting “ministers” and their wives. The cameras will not be able to capture the rolling eyes that will fill the Main Hall this week.
@ 1:59:53 …but, we’re okay. We’ve gotta be close. We’ve gotta be close.And maybe a final test for us. And we’re told you need patience. There’s a last message.
@ 2:00:10 It could be this Sabbath. It could be the next Sabbath. It could be the one after that.
@ 2:01:16 I can’t fathom what else I could tell you. I’ve tried and scoured this for years upon years of my life.I don’t have anything else. Once that last Mystery ended, the well is dry. The cupboard is bare.
A Pathetic Update has already contradicted this. “True to form, giant new information came almost immediately after Part 447…” Those attending the Ministerial Conference today will learn what else has been disavowed, undone, removed, revised, and clarified.
For those who are fascinated by the corrupted thought processes of David C. Pack, then this is for you. The chaos in his head will often spill out of his mouth spontaneously when under the right conditions. He makes a case headed in one direction but then changes trajectory mid-jump.
Multiple forces are vying for control of David C. Pack. It is not unreasonable to wonder about personality disorders, mental illness, or demonic influence.
@ 1:56:04 I’m not obliged to tell you the year.
@ 1:58:19 I’m not here to tell you the date.My job is to end the Mystery of God. And, if that’s happened, then we gotta tiny, tiny micron…it’s about to happen.
The last date announced was Tammuz 1 which begins at sunset on June 19, and Dave did not annul that in Part 447, so the countdown timer continues to run on the exrcg.org homepage.
@ 2:02:24 I’m not called to give you a date. The original prophets, I never heard any of the original prophets call out a date. None of ‘em ever did. They called out what God was gonna do. "Surely, God will do nothing, but He reveals it to His servants, the prophets." Now, the fact that He’s revealing this to me, I have to be a prophet.
David C. Pack went from not being commissioned to set dates to being a prophet within seconds. The following sentence was the only logical step since out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.
@ 2:02:57 I have to be Elijah now. Elijah comes first. He does not rise first.
This was not a planned announcement. It was utterly spontaneous, much like when Dave stated in 2014, “The Man of Sin has been revealed,” while speaking about Pope Francis. It must have been of great relief for him to just come out and say what he knew in his heart to be true all along.
Just in time for the Ministerial Conference. They will be spending the bulk of the five days discussing how to still defuse concerns when the brethren ask their local minister about “Mr. Pack being a false prophet for setting dates.” The canned go-to response has been, “Mr. Pack is not a prophet. He is telling, not foretelling. Prophesying is just teaching what the Bible says.”
Dooh! Part 447 throws those feeble excuses out the window. What the heck is Brian Jackson and Larry Cockshutt going to tell folks now? Richard Lee will be soaked in flop sweat and totally flummoxed.
Stay tuned to see if Dave moonwalks his ego-driven declaration before the “ministers” and their wives fly home Friday.
While examining the mental pathology of David C. Pack, his misspeaks are also interesting. He will sometimes say things that are true but opposite to his point. His subconscious knows who and what he is and will sometimes take over control of his mouth to say what he did not mean to say.
@ 1:58:36 I don't know how I could get it right, and I know I'm right.You can’t change any of this. I don’t know how I could be right but be wrong by the year unless, somehow, it’s on into Tammuz or something…
The truth is David C. Pack cannot and will not ever get it right.
God is not guiding him to teach any of this. The Spirit of Error drives his thinking and moves his mouth. The Pastor General is a blaspheming liar tempting God by issuing self-curses promising his own death. All the hirelings of The Restored Church of God blindly support a false prophet and false apostle.
Flashback Part 374 – June 8, 2022
@ 1:32:49 So, if it’s true that I am Elijah the Prophet now, then this is a lock for next week. It’s an absolute lock.
Flashback Part 375 – June 9, 2022
@ 14:19 I may’ve been Elijah for a week. I may’ve been Elijah since the series began for 6 2/3 years where I been explaining things…
Flashback Part 381 – July 9, 2022
@ 1:14:17 So, I am not Elijah the Prophet. Not now. Not ever.
The Church of God's greatest con man is back trying to make his followers believe that tithing is a New covenant command. Nowhere in the New Covenant is tithing commanded. Jesus never instructed people to do it and none of the apostles did. Yet, the con men running various COG's claim that is a requirement. They do so because it keeps their so-called ministries alive and for most a paycheck being deposited into their bank accounts.
The Great Bwana to Africa and 100 Caucasians has to rely upon old discredited Worldwide Church of God booklets and articles printed as an attempt to force members to tithe. We have come to expect such things from the Great Bwana because he apparently is unable to come up with an original thought in his head when it comes to doctrines and church teachings. None of it is ever scriptural but is instead cut and pasted from WCG authors.
Also, as usual, the Greatest self-appointed prophet the church has ever seen in 2,000 years got his delicate butt hurt by a previous article here on tithing.
A while back, the anti-COG site, calling itself Banned by HWA, ran an old letter purportedly written by former WCG member Harry Eisenberg opposed to tithing. Here are some extracts:
I was a paid researcher on the staff of Ambassador College for over four years. Generally speaking, my work involved providing “proofs” for the pet concepts and theories held by Mr. Herbert Armstrong and/or his son, Garner Ted. …
In January 1973, I was asked by my supervisor, Brian Knowles, to research the subject of tithing. In particular, Mr. Knowles was interested in learning who paid what to whom and how in ancient Israel.
And so I began a systematic study of the tithing doctrine by listing each Biblical verse which in any way refers to tithing. What followed was a study of commentaries, encyclopedias arid various historical sources. The result was inevitable! I came to see that the tithing concept as promulgated by Ambassador College and the Worldwide Church of God was contrary to both the Old and the New Testaments.
Scripture makes it plain that the right to collect tithes was given to the Levitical priesthood in exchange for their service in the Temple. There is no evidence that this right was ever passed on to the New Testament Church. …
Harry Eisenberg
Apparently, there were not enough butthurt salves stocked in the local pharmacies in Grover Beach and Arroyo Grande to soothe the pain the great Bwana felt and still feels.
Bwana ButtHurt continues:
But are all the claims in that letter accurate?
No.
Furthermore, the New Testament teaches that tithing changed from the Levitical priesthood because of Jesus (Hebrews 7:4-16). Early Christians understood that they were to tithe.
It does nothing of the sort!
The Old Covenant command that Armstrongites look to was an obligation. A requirement in order to gain salvation (along with a myriad of other useless demands). The New Covenant asks people to respond from their hearts. It is an act of worship to give as one sees how they've been blessed. Giving as an obligation accomplishes nothing but hinders them into thinking they have done enough.
The required tithes were in addition to other religious obligations mandated by the Mosaic law including the first fruits, first born animals, redemption money for the first born child, offerings required for the release of vows, the annual half-shekel temple tax, the annual wood-gathering, and free will offerings. F. C. Grant concludes that “the sum total of religious obligations levied upon the people by the various Old Testament codes was nothing shore of enormous” (The Economic Background of the Gospels, p. 97).
All Bwana Butthurt needs to do is look at 1 Cor. 16:1-4 where giving is to be done regularly (on the first day of the week), Giving is to be part of the believer's regular worship. Giving is always proportionate. Those with less give less, those with more give more. The amount is NOT important but what is on the heart of the giver. Giving was always to be done without pressure. Paul asked for offerings to be taken up BEFORE he arrived in cities so that people were not compelled to give because he was there.
The Great Bwana continues:
For those unfamiliar, let me state that the old WCG (Worldwide Church of God) taught three tithes.
That is what the Bible teaches as well.
What about historical evidence?
Well, it exists–historical evidence supports the idea of three tithes like the old WCG taught.
It does not matter that Harry Eisenberg purportedly claimed otherwise.
No one, not even Eisenberg ever disputed that it was taught in Old Testament times. It was a command for the Israelites only. Once that connection ended with the New Covenant Christians were no longer under the command or the law. No matter how much Bwana Bob wants to wave his little arms that tithing is commanded. It is not. That is a fact he cannot dispute.
No one should allow the Old Covenant law of tithing to become a stumbling block. New Covenant Christians are to embrace the behavior of generosity.
In Matthew 22:15-22, Matthew 23:23, and Romans 13:1-7, Jesus was only referring to the Old Testament command on tithing – not advocating for the return of the requirement. This totally escapes the little minds of self-appointed prophets and church elders.
Romans and Galatians just frost the butts of the Old Covenant legalists in the church demanding that specific laws be kept.
5 For when we were in the realm of the flesh,[a] the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
15 Brothers and sisters, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case. 16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,”[i] meaning one person, who is Christ.17 What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. 18 For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on the promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.
19 Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator. 20 A mediator, however, implies more than one party; but God is one.
21 Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22 But Scripture has locked up everything under the control of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.
Children of God
23 Before the coming of this faith,[j] we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. 26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of Godthrough faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
4 What I am saying is that as long as an heir is underage, he is no different from a slave, although he owns the whole estate. 2 The heir is subject to guardians and trustees until the time set by his father. 3 So also, when we were underage, we were in slavery under the elemental spiritual forces[a] of the world. 4 But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law,5 to redeem those under the law, that we might receive adoption to sonship.[b] 6 Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts,the Spirit who calls out, “Abba,[c] Father.” 7 So you are no longer a slave, but God’s child; and since you are his child, God has made you also an heir.
Don't get conned by the lies of Bwana Bob or the rest of the COG ministry who command tithing. It is not a New Covenant command. Never was and never will be!
When Christians are instructed to give to the poor, they aren’t commanded to give “the poor tithe.” Instead, they are instructed to be generous in helping those in need (Acts 2:43–47; 4:32–37; 11:27–30; Gal. 2:10; 1 Cor. 16:1–4; 2 Cor. 8:1–9:15). For example, 1 Corinthians 16:1–4—a passage often cited in popular circles in support—doesn’t mention tithing; it relates to a one-time gift for poor saints in Jerusalem. 7 Reasons Christians Are Not Required to Tithe
Although the original apostles were all Jews, obligated to tithe under the law, there is no word from them or anywhere in the New Testament that Christians are to tithe under the New Covenant with God. The tithe is not even used as illustrating a helpful method concerning how one may give to the church. The Apostle Paul calls on believers to use a completely different method when presenting their offering to the work of the church. Are Believers Obligated to Tithe to Their Church?
TITHING PUTS THE WRONG EMPHASIS UPON GIVING.
Tithing emphasizes your obligation to God; New Testament giving, as we shall see, emphasizes your willing, loving response to God’s grace. Furthermore, tithing limits giving by making a person feel that he has paid his dues (so to speak) and thus nothing more is required, when, in fact, much more could be done. Tithing has a tendency to put a person on a legal basis with God, rather than a love relationship. It’s the wrong emphasis. Why You Should NOT Tithe
Generous grace giving is the New Testament standard.
When you say “grace,” a lot of people, unfortunately, connect it with hang-loose, undisciplined living. But that is not grace! Nor is grace the balance point between legalism and licentiousness. Rather grace (as a system) is totally opposed both to legalism and licentiousness, which are two sides of the same coin.
Legalism and licentiousness both operate on the principle of the flesh. Legalism is an attempt to earn standing with God through human effort and leads to pride or condemnation, depending on how well you do. Licentiousness casts off restraint and lives to gratify the flesh.
But God’s grace is His unmerited favor based on Christ’s sacrifice. The motivating power in grace is the indwelling Spirit of God. The person under grace responds out of love and gratitude to God and depends upon the indwelling Holy Spirit to conform his life to what God requires. With that basic understanding of grace, let me spell out some things that grace giving is not, and then some things that grace giving is. Why You Should NOT Tithe
GRACE GIVING IS BASED ON ...
(1) God’s example in Christ (2 Cor. 8:9). Aren’t you glad that God did not just give a tenth! He gave all. The Lord Jesus Christ was infinitely rich. He dwelled in the unimaginable splendor of heaven, apart from the sin and corruption of this world. But He gave that up, laid aside His privileges, and took on human flesh. He could have chosen to be born as a prince in palatial splendor. But instead He was born and lived in poverty. He ultimately impoverished Himself to the maximum by taking upon Himself the sin of the human race in order that we might become rich (2 Cor. 5:21).
Grace giving looks to the nail-pierced hands of the Lord Jesus, who gave Himself so that we might be rescued from the wrath of God, and says, “Lord, You gave all for me! What can I give back to You?”Why You Should NOT Tithe
When the hundreds of splinter groups split off in the great apostasy, there is one thing they all carried with them, tithing. They did not take Christ with them, but tithing. Without which they would never have survived. No one in their right mind would give willingly to most of the splinter groups.
