Dave Pack: I know the identity of the 6th King...Oops...Wait, I got it wrong

With Apologies To Mr. Putin

 

Some goofy ideas were created by David C. Pack during “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 461)” on July 29, 2023, while others were blown off. The Pastor General of The Restored Church of God will spend over ninety minutes convincing the brethren how right he is about a goofy new idea, but a week later, spend less than ninety seconds to dismiss it.

 

• Nothing occurred on Av 10 (July 28) because the Jewish people believe stuff.

• The Kingdom of God will arrive at sunset on September 29, 2023.

• The Last Days are a 16-year period that already started in 2015.

• More “fairly dramatic” financial cuts are coming to RCG Headquarters.

 

David C. Pack must like saving the best for last because his biggest zingers were given within the last five minutes of Part 461.

 

Which “present truth” will stay and which will go is always a guessing game for those following along. Some things taught behind the front gate at Headquarters in Wadsworth, Ohio, are easy pickens for designation for the near-future doctrinal compost pile.

 

David C. Pack has suffered an incredible string of bad luck when it comes to identifying people fulfilling prophetic biblical roles, so it was a No-Duh moment when he walked back the identity of the Sixth Head/King of Revelation 17.

Part 461 – July 29, 2023

@ 1:35:00 I’ma throw another thought at you, and I’m gonna be very discrete in how I handle it. I do not believe Vladimir Putin is the Sixth King. That’s all I’m gonna say…You’ll have to think about a Christian nation and (perhaps) a Catholic leader. And all five of the first Heads of the Holy Roman Empire were Catholic.

 

David C. Pack spent a grand total of 57 seconds undoing his own declarations. With his next breath, he moved on to another topic because he dared not wallow in the Pond of Disappointments. Being timid and vague does not look good on him.

 

@ 1:35:55 I know a lot more than I’m saying. That’s all I wanna say.

 

 

Was this a goofy idea from the jump? Yes. Does David C. Pack pray on his knees with tears and beads of bloody sweat that the Common-paying brethren forget what he said in the first place? Oh, you betcha.

 

All 92 minutes of Part 453 on June 17 were dedicated to “correctly” identifying Russian President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin as the Sixth King of Revelation 17:10. Brethren, hurry up and download a copy from Member Services before they delete it from the Sermon Library. (If you are too late, email exrcgwebsite@gmail.com.)

 

In case some members of The Restored Church of God forgot how convinced David C. Pack was, enjoy these reminders. 

 

Flashback Part 453 – June 17, 2023

@ 00:21 Well, truly, we’ve reached the end. I have to tell you from many perspectives, I look forward to giving both these messages almost as much as anything I’ve ever covered…it focuses on the Sixth King.

 

@ 02:20 And if we can identify the Sixth King with great clarity and detail. Let me say that again. With great clarity and detail. If, instead of thinking we're looking for him, that, in fact, we are staring at him, that will tell us we are very close.

 

@ 43:53 My job right now is to tell you about a man who becomes, in many regards, the most powerful metric in the Bible.

 

@ 52:08 He [God] says He picks a man who wanted to know His heart and mind, so if this is correct (and it is), and it’s because God wanted to reveal it at the end. I didn’t reveal anything.

 

Pause. Since the knowledge was not true, it was not revealed by God. What does that say about the man who was convinced it was? That should throw all his discernments into question. This should keep the enablers at Headquarters up at night.

 

The Pastor General is not preaching the truths of God even after claiming he was.

 

David C. Pack lacks the wisdom to know when God is guiding him and when God is not. He is screaming to the members of The Restored Church of God that he cannot be trusted with the most critical aspect of what he teaches—the spirit from which the information came.

 

The identity of the Sixth King did not come from the Holy Spirit. What spirit drove that understanding?

 

 

Continuing the June look-back, these following quotes might feel very different than they did then.

 

@ 1:24:44 Somebody thinks it’s somebody else? All right. Who else? And what alternative is there? I know it’s him. Everything lines up.

 

@ 1:30:12 So, this is all faith-building. If your faith didn’t grow as a result of hearing this sermon, then there's something wrong.

 

For the troubled brethren who twisted inside because their faith did not grow, you can now rest easy. It was not revealed knowledge. It was error. It was doctrinal fraud. It was taught to you by a false teacher. This did not come from God, which is why your faith did not grow.

 

If your faith did grow, then you are in far worse shape than you can possibly understand.

 

 

With this unfortunate turn of events, I felt obligated to inform our comrades on the other side of the planet.

 

To: rusembusa@mid.ru, communications@rcg.org, dpack@rcg.org

Subject: With Apologies to Mr. Putin

Date: August 1, 2023

 

Greetings and peace to you once again, comrades!

 

The weather has been quite appealing here in our corner of the world in Wadsworth, Ohio, USA. A few weeks have passed since my last correspondence, and much has changed.

 

With a heavy heart, I must inform you that your president, Mr. Vladimir Putin, is no longer considered by Pastor General David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God (rcg.org) to be the prophesied Sixth King of Revelation 17:10.

 

Indeed, this is as much a disappointment to you as it is to all members of The Restored Church of God. The identity of Mr. Putin being the Sixth King was a major metric that time was short, and the return of Jesus Christ was imminent. It also proved that God was directly working with David C. Pack!

 

David C. Pack has studied Mr. Putin since his time in the KGB and commented, “I understand the man.” There is not an article in the Wall Street Journal about Mr. Putin that David C. Pack does not read.

 

I am not sure how quickly the wheels of progress turn within the Russian government, but I surely hope you can intercept the previous messages before they reach Mr. Putin’s desk. I can imagine how disheartening it might feel to read in one letter that he is biblically prophesied royalty but then “not so much” in the next.

 

Please forgive my previous enthusiasm. David C. Pack told everyone in the church that God gave him this knowledge. Since God is never wrong, Mr. Putin being the Sixth King of Revelation 17, could not be wrong. The details behind this situation are still a mystery, as David C. Pack told us this weekend, “I know a lot more than I’m saying. That’s all I wanna say.”

 

 I will not belabor the point because I do not intend to rub salt in the wound.

 

However, before I sign off, I wanted to advise caution.

 

Since Mr. Putin is no longer guaranteed to live until the return of Jesus Christ and miraculous protection does not apply, it is now advisable that Mr. Putin no longer take any “unnecessary risks” such as hang gliding, free solo rock climbing, or deep water skin diving. If his daily routine included his food being tasted in advance, please return to that with all haste. Let prudence win the day!

 

Should Mr. Putin or anyone within the Russian government wish to follow up on the topics of these emails, you can contact the Communications Department at The Restored Church of God by dialing 1 330 334 2266. You can also ask to speak with David C. Pack directly, as I am sure he would be very excited to receive your call.

 

Do svidaniya,

 

Marc Cebrian

 

 

Wow. President Vladimir Putin is not the Sixth King of Revelation 17:10. It takes a while to sink in.

 

The King Poutine article covered much more on this topic from Parts 453, 454, 455, and 456.

 

Do yourself a favor: Listen to the hollow 57-second embarrassment of Part 461 as David C. Pack desperately tries to distance himself, then reread the article. All the quotes now have an enhanced perspective.

 

Brethren of The Restored Church of God, do not ignore the words that fall from David C. Pack’s lips. He proves to you time and again whether or not God is guiding him.

 

By their fruits, you shall know them.

 

And to Mr. Vladimir Putin, our sincere apologies.

arc Cebrian

See: With Apologies To Mr. Putin

Dave Pack: The kingdom of God occurs at the split-second of sunset on September 29, 2023

Goofy Ideas

 

The title of this article was made self-evident after about sixty seconds of “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 461)” on July 29, 2023. David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God opened with a feeble excuse for why nothing happened on Av 10 (July 28).

 

This is the short version of what he said during Part 460 last week. Feel free to loop it as you read.

Flashback Part 460 – July 22, 2023

@ 1:26:15 What would I say next week? “Sorry, you know, set aside Av 10. Just blow it off. It was a mistake. Let’s just keep going.”

 

Perhaps David C. Pack is a prophet after all because his mocking statement a week earlier came to pass. This is precisely what he tells the brethren of The Restored Church of God to do. His own lips curse him.

Part 461 – July 29, 2023

@ 00:04 Well, this is an important message. I knew as early as maybe about Tuesday (Monday, perhaps) that nothing was gonna happen on Av 10, and I want you to know what it was [chuckles] that caused US to understand that. WE did more research, and the Jews actually believe the Messiah will be born on Av 9 or 10. And many of them believe that this is the day that Christ will come. Now, you’ll have to understand almost the moment I heard that; I knew it. There was no way it could be because God would never reveal to the Jews who murdered Him when He would either be born or arrive as the Messiah. And a lot of the goofy ideas that were attached to it made it even worse. They’re the last people who could know a date that no man knows.

 

As it turns out, Av 10 (July 28) was the goofy idea. Dave loves to brag about how soon "he knew" he would fail. He knew by Monday, perhaps, that Part 460 was filled with goofy ideas. What does it say about those of us who knew he would fail before he opened his mouth? That should freak out the enablers at Headquarters.

 

Part 461 has some seriously goofy ideas.

 

• The Kingdom of God arrives on Opening Night of The Feast of Tabernacles.

• This occurs at the split-second of sunset on September 29, 2023.

• Tishrei 15 is the “midst of the years” between two eight-year periods.

• The Last Days began during the FOT in 2015 and will last sixteen years.

• Russian President Vladimir Putin is no longer the Sixth King of Revelation 17.

• The Series is NOT over.

• More “fairly dramatic” financial cuts are coming to RCG Headquarters.

 

 

The first 94 seconds of Part 461 are worth closer attention because it invokes profound implications. On July 22, David C. Pack wasted 92 minutes for everyone at Headquarters. His arguments were so non-biblical and feeble even he could not buy them for three whole days.

 

Within sixty seconds, one week later, he casually threw out all his own “proofs” with a goofy excuse and just moved on. He was eager to get past the goofy ideas of last week so he could focus on his new goofy ideas this week. And we continue to wonder why nobody walked out.

 

One of the reasons that people do not flee from The Restored Church of God is because they forget. Whether intentional or accidental, the result is the same: They miss vital context for what they hear today because they already forgot what he said yesterday. Only by having that context can they prove from their Bibles that David C. Pack is a blaspheming liar not guided by the Holy Spirit. That is a big deal.

 

Those that cope by ignoring the Series do themselves a great disservice. Ignoring the problem does not make it go away. The sharpest tool in the exrcg.org toolkit is David C. Pack exposing David C. Pack as a biblical fraud, false prophet, hypocrite, and professional deceiver.

 

Fine. Set aside Av 10. It is now acceptable church doctrine to blow it off. It was clearly a research mistake. Have blind faith and just keep going.

 

But, before you make peace with that, un-forget what David C. Pack said seven days earlier.

 

Flashback Part 460 – July 22, 2023

@ 52:26 I'm gonna clarify something that is most powerful. God help the church around the world to understand what I’m gonna show you right now.

 

Would the true God help the church understand error?

 

@ 53:54 It's telling you (I'm gonna say this very carefully) in several ways. It's telling you Av 10 is the day God uses to start years.

 

Very carefully, the Bible was NOT telling anyone that. David C. Pack made it up. Otherwise, how could he abandon it so quickly? The truth is to be held onto. David C. Pack cast the Av 10 "knowledge" aside like garbage.

 

@ 56:39 If this year starts on Av 10. It’s impossible to say it doesn’t. It’s impossible…

 

David C. Pack: the man who makes the impossible possible. Seven days later, he teaches the church the year starts on The Feast of Tabernacles, not Av 10. One week later, it was not so impossible.

 

@ 1:17:31 Tell me why I figured out this date now.

 

Because the date the week before failed, he had to quickly find a new one.

 

@ 1:17:45 I had no idea how to read it. Now I do. And so do you.

 

One week later, he still does not know how to read it.

 

@ 1:18:53 And we were never gonna figure that out. We were never ever ever gonna figure that out until we were shown by God Av 10.

 

David C. Pack credits God with the Av 10 understanding. Three days later, he blows it off. While speaking in God’s name, using God’s authority, David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God falsely taught doctrine to the brethren. He took God’s name in vain.

 

Peter warned of false teachers. By his own words and by his own admission, David C. Pack is a false teacher. That is not an accusation. It is an observation. An observation that can only be grasped if you remember what the man said seven days prior.

 

Each time he credits God for leading the church into some new false doctrine, David C. Pack blasphemes God. This is why remembering is so vital.

 

@ 1:19:49 The only date you can use as the year is the one God is working off of. Av 10. I call it “The Iron Date” ‘cause it’s this day that, apparently, God raises all of us and raises Elijah.

 

The Iron Date rusted to dust within three days. Just think of all the other goofy ideas that will erode before next week.

 

@ 1:26:07 Now, it took a long time to learn a plain date where I could never come to another one. I could never come to another one. You could never. There's no way.

 

@ 1:26:35 I could never come back to another date.

 

@ 1:31:16 I’ll never move Av 10. If I had to wait five more years, I’m not gonna move Av 10. I just wouldn’t understand how the Mystery is cleared up. 

 

He doubted, dismissed, studied, found, prepared, and delivered a new date that “could never come” within seven days. Trusting in the words of David C. Pack is like trusting in the staff of a broken reed. Do so, and it will go into your hand and pierce it.

 

@ 1:26:15 What would I say next week? “Sorry, you know, set aside Av 10. Just blow it off. It was a mistake. Let’s just keep going.”

 

The dark spirits that toy with his mind ease the words from his lips that prove who and what he is. It should make you shudder when you see David C. Pack’s mockings become real while his doctrines fail. Pray that this blind, lost man repents.

 

@ 1:26:23 It’s a miracle that we found there was another year there and in other places. It’s a miracle that that happened.

 

That was as much a miracle as the stain that looks like the Virgin Mary he discovered in his underwear. “Hey honey, come take a look at this. Is it a coincidence I found this today?”

 

 

Remembering last week frames this week. We are still in the first 94 seconds of Part 461.

 

Part 461 – July 29, 2023

@ 00:04 Well, this is an important message. I knew as early as maybe about Tuesday (Monday, perhaps) that nothing was gonna happen on Av 10…almost the moment I heard that, I knew it.

 

@ 01:23 It’s the greatest reason, I’ll say, initially the greatest initial reason I knew nothing would happen.

 

David C. Pack knew as early as maybe Tuesday or Monday perhaps that NOTHING would happen. If what he proclaims is true, then Headquarters blatantly lied to the brethren of The Restored Church of God.

 

Read the Pathetic Update posted in Member Services on Wednesday, July 26. As you read, try to find the words that explain “nothing would happen on Av 10.”

 

Prophecy Update – Wednesday, July 26, 2023

All in the last message holds, but one principle from Part 459 should be factored in. Habakkuk 2:3 says what we are awaiting could tarry—recall the Hebrew is, “though (if, when) it tarry, wait for it”! As asked on the Sabbath, might God dock off more days? Other material learned indicates it will delay, but cannot go long. If so, keep watching!

 

Instead of letting the brethren know "nothing would happen" on Friday, they instructed them to keep watching. How is that not a lie? How are Church Administration and all the hirelings at Headquarters (I’m talking to you, Bradford G. Schleifer) not liars? How is that posting not fraud to the core?

 

They knew and said nothing. They let the brethren hold on to empty hope for the next few days while NONE of the Headquarters ministers held the same illusion of false hope. David C. Pack put his head on his pillow Thursday night, not wondering about it even a little bit. So much for outgoing love and concern.

 

Men who say they love the brethren lie to the brethren. Men who say they want to care for the sheep lie to the sheep.

 

The new “delay” of Part 461 is two months long, the Opening Night of The Feast of Tabernacles at the split-second of sunset on September 29, 2023. How is that even in the neighborhood of “cannot go long?”

 

Is David C. Pack a man of his word who can be trusted with what he says? Is there anyone with integrity left at Headquarters?

 

 

Another significant element of the first 94 seconds is just goofy. Really goofy. But even something goofy can expose how two-faced David C. Pack is. He is a well-practiced hypocrite when it comes to choosing when a fact is good or bad. It always depends on how he needs to spin it. On that, consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.

 

Once again, the Jews seem to ruin everything.

 

Part 461 – July 29, 2023

@ 00:11 I knew…that nothing was gonna happen on Av 10…WE did more research, and the Jews actually believe…And many of them believe…almost the moment I heard that, I knew it.

 

The full text was at the beginning of the article. The point is: Dave changed his mind about Av 10 based upon what he discovered the Jewish people believed. You could ask why he did not research that sooner.

 

The Restored Church of God

There’s never enough time to do things right.™

 

@ 01:11 Now, that may be a strange thing for you to hear, but I didn’t know that they believe it. I wish I had before I spoke. But it caused many other things to come clear. It’s the greatest reason, I’ll say, initially the greatest initial reason I knew nothing would happen.

 

It could not possibly be the date because the Jews believe in the significance of Av 10. This is only the beginning of goofy because the Jews keep the Sabbath and the Holy Days, but Dave has no issue with that.

 

David C. Pack invalidated 91 minutes of prophetic teaching sourced from God’s word with the support of his two “capable” assistants because…well, the Jews believe something. He faithlessly used extrabiblical information to supersede revealed knowledge “shown by God” about when the Kingdom would arrive. This was inspired preaching through a chosen vessel, the only living apostle. But all of it was thwarted by the beliefs of the Jews.

 

David C. Pack's paltry excuse gets even thinner.

 

If anyone listening to Part 461 remembers one of the big points from Part 460, they should have felt slightly insulted. David C. Pack counts on the brethren NOT remembering what he just said. He gets on his knees each morning, praying the members suffer from the exact short-term memory loss that he does.

 

The power of his prayers must not be crossing my threshold because I remember Part 460 all too well.

 

This next portion is a worthy entry for David C. Pack’s Gallery of Stupid. I let it go last week, but Dave breathed life into its newsworthiness.

 

While making a crucial point about the significance of the fast he kept reading about and how it tied into the midst of the years, he cited WHAT THE JEWS BELIEVE as a proof to show how Av 10 was so significant to God.

 

Flashback Part 460 – July 22, 2023

@ 50:28 …all the gold and silver. Took it to Babylon. Everything that had been Jerusalem and its people, its laws, and its priesthood came to a screeching, complete, burnt-to-a-crisp, all of it, walls gone and on Av 10. Hence, Jews fast for about 23 days between these certain periods. That’s what they fast for. They’re mourning. And they did it for 70 years.

 

Dave teaches fasting was on God's mind. Israel fasted on Av 9 and was taken into captivity on Av 10. The historic significance proved future significance.

 

What the Jews believed proved his point. But one week later, something else the Jews believed about the very same day invalidated his point. He picks and chooses when something applies and when it does not. Those poor Jews just cannot get a break with him.

 

But that is not the stupid part. He said, “Jews fast for about 23 days.”

 

Fasting for 23 days is not called mourning. It is called suicide. Even Muslims know during the month of Ramadan to eat and drink after the sun goes down. A speedy internet search proves David C. Pack needs those new glasses to read his notes more carefully.

 

On Tammuz 17, the Jews fast from sunrise to sunset for one day. It is called Shiva Asar B'Tammuz. 22 days later, they fast again, starting on Av 9 at sunset until sunset on Av 10. This is called Tisha B’Av. Two fasts occur between 23 days. Jews do not fast for 23 days, which is a little different.

 

 

Wow. That was the first 94 seconds of “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 461)” on July 29, 2023. When it comes to goofy ideas, David C. Pack is king. He is the master of goofy ideas. He is the most prolific generator of goofy ideas the world has ever seen.

 

If you think David C. Pack will wait quietly until the Feast of Tabernacles, deep down, you know that is a really goofy idea. 

Marc Cebrian

See: Goofy Ideas

 

CGI and Tattoos

 

From a reader:

Church of God International take on tattoos.

Tattoos, cuttings in the flesh, and cutting the edges of the hair and beard were apparently associated with pagan religious practices at the time, so the underlying law, which is still in place, is: Don't attempt to serve God the same way the heathen serve their false gods and stay far away from superstitious and magical rites. 

 

It is probable that some of those practices were magical rites designed to bring good luck. God is simply telling the Israelites to rely on Him and avoid putting their trust in magic and superstition for healthy crops, babies, etc. Archaeologists have uncovered evidence for some of these customs, but there are still uncertainties about many of the specifics pertaining to them. 

 

Because of my age and background, when I see tattoos, I do not associate them with anything positive. However, I realize that the people who get them today usually do so for reasons other than magical or religious or as a sign of servitude, and since I usually don't know their motives for getting tattooed, I cannot tell them they are in violation of God's law. The most I could do would be to say to them that I think their tattoos are unbecoming and that someday they will most likely regret having gotten them. 

 

The specific commandments within the Torah tell us something about how the timeless, universal Law of God applies to specific circumstances common to the time in which the Law was given to Israel. For example, Moses commands that a parapet be put on the roof of one's house (Deuteronomy 22:8). The purpose of that law was for the protection of the people who would go up on the roof and use it as a living area. Have I dis- obeyed that law by not putting a parapet around the roof of my house? No, of course not. My roof is not used as a living area; I've never had or served a single meal upon it. But I am to obey the underlying universal principle, which means that if I dig a swimming pool in my backyard, I must fence it in or do something to make sure my neighbor's children don't wander into it. It's called loving one's neighbor as oneself—and that is the timeless principle (law) underlying the parapet instruction.