Are You Thinking About Joining LCG, UCG, PCG Or Bob Thiel's Group? If So, "you are simply being tempted by a heresy".

 

Poor Bob Thiel, the little guy never gets a break. 😅 

Samuel Kitchen has come out proclaiming that anyone who joins ANY of the splinter groups are being tempted by heresy. We've known that all along when it comes to the Great Bwana Bob. The lies of Gerald Flurry and Dave Pack pale in comparison to the lies and half-truths the Great Bwana has dumped upon us all. From his crazy nightmares to the "enlarged upon" conversations that really never happened the way Bob claims, the absolute craziness he says has no boundaries. Rod Meredith understood this very well when he said:

However, Bob, your own remarkable vanity and “dreams of greatness” have greatly affected your ability to think clearly many times. Over the last few years, many of us have noted that you have begun to think of yourself in terms that are not realistic.  

Also, to abet your desires to be a “great one” in the Work, you have carefully and cleverly twisted and enlarged upon many things people have mentioned to you." -RCM 

Samuel Kitchen claims that Bob and all of the others are following in the footsteps of Simon Magus. Ouch! 

Unto those He sent out, Jesus Christ commanded in Matthew 28 to make disciples in all nations of the world, this to fulfill Christ's own prophecy in Matthew 24:14. This was a prophecy of the fruition of the Worldwide Church of God in this Philadelphia era.

Now, many have become confused. Since the death of the apostle, the people of God seem to be scrambling to different groups and different works, and that is odd.

Yes the Worldwide Church of God is the Church of God, the spiritual body of Christ. The organization was struck by Satan, in order to destroy a media empire, that could take on anyone who wanted to restrict information to the public.

The spiritual remains intact. The work of God is to continue to remain organized as it has been directed through Christ's apostle, to believe the one sent from God.

We are commanded to Hold fast, and endure persecution.

These c.o.g groups are merely other works, and they are restricting people's relationship with the apostle, and therefore Jesus Christ, and many are failing to hold fast.

Jesus didn't start a second church, or second work. The Bible holds true.

If the idea of another work intrigues you....you are simple being tempted by a heresy. The heresy is the idea of another work, the idea of another church.

These ministers were ordained as ministers of the Worldwide Church of God. They were NOT an apostle, and so let's remember how Simon Magus claimed apostleship and started his counterfeit Church in competition against the true Church of God.

That's why I look at the Worldwide Church of God, and say the idea there is another church now is heresy. Heresy should never be supported. And that is something we all need to repent of.

Let us get back on the right track brethren!

Dave Pack: Performance Anxiety

Performance Anxiety

David C. Pack suffers from an acute case of doctrinal performance anxiety.

The brethren of The Restored Church of God have been on this prophetic-knowledge rollercoaster before. When David C. Pack consistently blows off scheduled speaking appointments and resorts to lesser men in Church Administration submitting proxy Hem and Haw emails because he fears to further expert opinions that he is a proven not-so expert, you know the Pastor General is stalling.

David C. Pack cannot cross the finish line of any race he attempts because he has no clue how God plans to execute His how and when of Jesus Christ’s return. Do not be surprised if Coffee Kid and Pepper Boy are choking the Hall of Administration’s underground furnace with 25,000 hours worth of pointless Bible study notes. The members of The Restored Church of God continue to invest their time, money, and partial attention because nine straight years of absolute failure are not a clear signal it is time to flee.

David C. Pack foolishly chose to no longer tiptoe just right, offering undeniable proof that the 7-Year Kingdom of God would arrive on Tammuz 5: July 11, 2024.

Just during 2024, he taught that the Kingdom of God would arrive on:

•  Abib 1
•  Abib 14 (Passover)
•  Iyar 1
•  Sivan 1
•  Sivan 10 (Pentecost)
•  Tammuz 1
•  Tammuz 5
•  Mystery date brethren may be able to determine

He also “proved” it was the Feast of Trumpets just to make the point the Kingdom could never come on the Feast of Trumpets.

David C. Pack’s current performance anxiety could result from him running out of ideas.

 

The four emails sent within the same week offer illogical excuses that defy David C. Pack’s presumptuous commission to “rush to call it out” because his last message triggers a “tiny, tiny micron” before Jesus Christ can return. 

Boy, if all that does not line up just so, prophecy breaks, and God cannot move forward with His plan for the salvation of mankind. But, hey, Dave…no pressure.

Sunday, July 7, 2024
Subject: Upcoming Live Stream Message – Early This Week

Dear brethren,

Warm greetings from Headquarters!

Following yesterday's Bible study more knowledge has been gained requiring further explanation.

These will be detailed further in an upcoming message, likely Monday or Tuesday.

Look out for additional communication.

Warm regards, 
Church Administration

That idea almost lasted a whole day.

Monday, July 8, 2024
Subject: Upcoming Live Stream Message – Thursday, July 11

Greetings again brethren, 

For several reasons, it is better for Mr. Pack to speak on Thursday. This alone means we are not looking for this Wednesday.

However, he wanted to pass on that many of you may be able to determine the date if you take a moment to think about it and don't jump to any quick conclusions. Think back, starting about a month ago, and you will probably figure out exactly what day this is!

Warm regards,
Church Administration

Hours of holy time were devoted to listening to David C. Pack explain exactly what the Bible says with precision and accuracy, which was dissolved in a single sentence: "This alone means we are not looking for this Wednesday.” The energy spent could have been utilized better if RCG had constructed a giant domino obstacle course so that the single flip of a finger could have at least been interesting.

Informing the brethren that they may determine the day without further information but not jump to conclusions is a logic paradox that hurts my brain. By offering that they "may be able to determine the date” and “figure out exactly,” CAD asks them to come to a conclusion.

I may be a self-taught Packinese expert, but I have no idea what the brethren were expected to do. Most figured they should just hunker down and be patient until Thursday.

That also turned out to be a terrible idea.

Thursday, July 11, 2024 
Subject: Important Update: Livestream Bible Study - Cancelled

Greetings brethren,

As an update, Mr. Pack will not be speaking today. He will now speak on the Sabbath.

Further communication with timing details will follow.

Have a pleasant rest of your day!

Warm regards,
Church Administration

By this point, David C. Pack’s biblical performance anxiety was fully inflamed. The malarkey well had gone dry even though gallons of recyclables were stored in the basement.

I wonder if they locked the doors to the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium and issued another Headquarters-wide “Do not talk to Mr. Pack” edict like in times past.

Yeah, that was a real thing at Headquarters.

Employees were told in a staff meeting not to engage with Dave even when we ran into him in the office because he was easily distracted and could lose his train of thought. Even then, I chuckled to myself because if his inspiration had come from the Holy Spirit, that divine knowledge would not be lost to the ages because someone asked him how his weekend was.

It took a long time to realize that Headquarters hirelings are not spiritually-thinking people.

Imagine God is moving Dave’s mind toward understanding vital end-time knowledge that gets thwarted because a bootlicker asks about when a particular tree will bloom. I once stood beside a man who was so excited he got five minutes of Dave's attention. He was beaming. He was fired six months later.

Nope. None of that. Prophecy cannot fulfill itself. Dave must be locked away so he can concentrate and “try to figure out what God’s gonna do.”

 

The RCG holdouts clinging to patience by their fingernails had the cold, rigid CAD heel slam down on their fingers when the latest information did not survive a whole day.

Friday, July 12, 2024
Subject: Follow-up: Upcoming Live Stream Message – Tomorrow, July 13

Greetings brethren,

We trust this message finds you well!

As previously communicated, Mr. Pack had planned to speak this Sabbath. However, given timing, there is no need for him to speak since there may not be enough time for anyone to hear the message.

Coming off the timing-related email from earlier this week, do not assume that you know the day. Be prepared for an event that may come sooner than expected.

If we are here next week, Mr. Pack can share some additional inspiring knowledge.

Enjoy the Sabbath ahead!
Church Administration

Kevin Denee and I have a theory that David C. Pack will try to capitalize on the assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump. That Chicken Little rant will come, and somehow, it will make Dave “right” because “an event” occurred. Fox News has not stopped running in the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium and is visible from the Giant Eagle parking lot at the right time of day.

I doubt Dave will put his doctrinal marbles in the Richard Simmons death circle. It remains to be seen if he views Dr. Ruth Westheimer as a “dirty, filthy woman” among the ranks of Taylor Swift and Kim Kardashian.

“If we are here next week" is laughable but also a lie. They knew we would be here this week. That line was just an excuse, not a reason. Today is Tammuz 10, and even I did not bother to "figure out" the date.

David C. Pack forfeited being the Goodman of the House because he neglected his self-proclaimed assignment when he decided not to speak because “there may not be enough time.” Once again, Dave’s god is terrible with timing because it gave its nincompoop lackey information too late to do anything with. That means whatever “inspiring knowledge” fell out of the sky into Dave's head while making a doodie in the toilet, not in his pants, was entirely vain.

There was plenty of time for people to hear Part 524 and be disappointed with failed date #85 since March 2022. The truth is Dave had no message to give. He was stalling and is stalling and will keep stalling until he builds a new prophetic Jenga tower and presents it as "what the Bible says.”

The CAD emails are smoke and mirrors for what is really happening behind the scenes. Instead of Dave admitting how uncomfortable and troubled he is, "inspiring knowledge” is just over the horizon.

With ten days of stalling, David C. Pack’s reoccurring prophetic performance anxiety is causing quiet rejoicing in RCG’s congregations throughout the world. Brethren, savor this respite because he will be back in full force to wrestle the Bible into submission, bending the Scriptures to conform to his twisted imagination.

It has been a while since we last saw David C. Pack’s performance anxiety, which is quite impressive for a man his age.

Marc Cebrian

See: Performance Anxiety 

Personal Musings: Two Scenes and a Song: When "Yes, that's it" comes into view

 

Originally posted on the Ambassador College Alumni General Message Forum I'm sure we have all experienced those moments quietly when we hear the particular lyrics of a song or watch one in a movie and quietly tell ourselves "Yes,  That explains it." That's exactly how I feel. That's me." Authenticity has always been playing in the background even when I ignored it to my harm.  Even here on the GMF, we all should recognize that we resonate with some more than others.  I resonate with what Stuart Segall, Mike Cooney, Gary Moore (I recognize my Dutch Reformed past in Gary's views) and others of the kinder more gentle and insightful personalities share. With some I resonate somewhat and with a few, not at all or ever would want to. It's like a church congregation. We all can say that of course.  "Too soon old and too late schmart" seems to be path and the way but it is never too late to come up "Schmart". I'm sure we'd all have preferred to have been born "schmart", but that is not the program obviously.  Pastoring in WCG and the "going along to get along" part of me clashed my entire ministry. How often I found myself quietly not about to say or teach what others felt I must or should. (Divorce and Remarriage, Divine healing only, no vaccinations, Place of Safety, British Israelism and just about everything Gerald Waterhouse ever came up with etc...) On these I did not go along. I just dropped them from topics I ever supported and taught. My Dutch Reformed background had, at least, given me a fair share of common sense and foresight into what will happen if one goes down those rabbit holes of teaching and belief.  I can't tell you how many times I have heard, "Well, obviously you were never converted."  Converted to what? Compliance with bad information, emotional reasoning and the consequences of a complete lack of common sense?  Correct, I was never converted.  The last time Gerald Waterhouse showed up to speak in my congregations I told him he causes more problems with his sermons than he solves. He just said, "Is that right..." as my wife kicked me under the table.  These are 3 of my moments in media where the recognition that "Going along to get along" was not really my friend nor my core self. It was, however, what I did  because I thought I should or must. But as I got older I got bolder and all that has gone one before for me personally has brought me to recognize how I believe I always was and repressed for the common "good", which was rarely all that good.  From moving all over creation when told to move and told "to be played in all the Churches" (oh how many I didn't:), I recognize with these two scenes and a song what niggled at me the entire time.  Perhaps others have resonated with you in your life.      "NO..."  "I don't care" and "That's too bad" This one is deeply hilarious :)   The Song When Forrest Gump came out in 1994 it this resonated as too my ministry in WCG where every year, it seemed, was one mess after the next to deal with and get stuck between HQ and the members in the cross fire.  When I heard that Winston Churchill defined history as "One damned thing after the next", I chuckled, and said that defined my unfortunate timing coming into WCG ministry. ============================= Bonus scene from "JFK" Profanity warning Don't watch if everyone has to be "nice" in their recognitions and expression of themselves "I don't know what happened. All I ever wanted in the world was to be was a Catholic Priest, live in a monestary, pray, serve God..." ( For myself, a genuine, educated and enlightened  pastor and helper of our joy in teaching, belief and practice. My other theological and scientific conclusions came together realizing they too also lingered just below the surface from my youth) LIfe is weird The pressure I felt in WCG was overwhelming After each of the 5 last FOT sermons I gave, at least one or two ministers at lunch would say, "You say what I'm thinking!", to which I always said, "Then say it...."

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