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Saturday, December 6, 2025
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Gerald Flurry: It Was A Crap Shoot When God Sent Jesus To Earth, Because If He Sinned Then God Was Going To Be Lonely
A God from the northern heavens came to Earth and became flesh and blood, risking the loss of eternal life. FAILURE WOULD HAVE LEFT THE FATHER AS THE ONLY REMAINING GOD FOREVER.
Spend more time and ponder what failure would have meant to our Father—the rest of eternity spent as the only God in the universe! Then you can better comprehend the kind of love He has for His creation
Can we fathom this loving sacrifice by God? This universe-shaking truth challenges our imagination. We are the recipients of this unparalleled act of love.
An “eternal life,” which was God, the Word, came and died for us. This ought to excite mankind beyond anything we can imagine. It was the beginning of what will probably become billions of sons in God’s Family.
BECAUSE WE TEACH THIS GOD-ORDAINED MESSAGE, WE ARE ALMOST GLUTTED WITH NEW REVELATION! THIS SHOULD SHOW US WHAT THIS MESSAGE MEANS TO THE FATHER AND THE SON. Revelation comes because we honor our Father and Husband.
Flurry coninues with this:
The goal of our work is to bring all humanity into fellowship with the Father and Son! Please read that again.
The Ephesus Church members quit doing God’s work because they lost their first love. The Laodiceans today stopped doing this work because they became blind to this vision. Anybody who fails to see why we do this work is blind!
We are the very elect of the firstfruits. Soon the whole world will be filled with second-fruits from the fall harvest. All mankind will have one mind, one faith, one love and one hope. Each person will be a witness for God!
Than this:
Herbert W. Armstrong College is here to get this message to the world. This message is for the whole of mankind. It produces the opposite of the negative fruits you see in Satan’s world.
The Laodicean Church members broke down in this area. Satan destroyed their desire and strength to be witnesses. Then they no longer wanted to declare the Father’s message.
We are declaring John’s message as quickly as we can. The job of our ministers is to help get our people 100 percent behind God’s work—so we can complete this work as speedily as possible. We are in THE LAST HOUR! We must work while we can, BEFORE this world is plunged into the Great Tribulation.
We must see that this message is everything to a dying world! It must be declared now—in this “last hour.” It is a message from the Logos, who was with the Father.
God sent an Elijah to restore all things. It was an astounding message not heard around the world for almost two millennia!
And from the early college days to the end, Mr. Armstrong had outstanding, God-inspired spokesman clubs. There were research and writing classes. The students were not there just to learn the message. They were also taught how to deliver it, both in this age and in the Millennium.
In Herbert W. Armstrong College, our students are taught how to write and speak like kings and priests. We have a message that must be communicated to all humanity!
Receiving God’s message is just half of the responsibility. The second part is communicating it. And what a communication job! This message must be delivered to every person ever born!
What good is the message if it is not declared and taught? What a failure if we don’t deliver our Father’s message! What a calamity. Now is the time to be a witness for God.
The world is full of violence and ready to explode into nuclear warfare. And America’s strongest messages to the world is the filthiest, Satan-inspired trash ever seen and heard!
At the same time, we ignore the Creator God who prophesies throughout His Word that He punishes for such despicable sins. Even the most violent terrorists can see and are offended by our unparalleled immorality. Surely we must believe that God would also be offended. But our people don’t care. We have descended into a kind of spiritual madness. Only the worst kind of punishment can ever awaken us. The Great Tribulation is going to be the worst suffering ever. The punishment fits the crime. Never was there a greater need to awaken!
More proof that these morons have no concept of what Jesus accomplished.
The magnitude of the opportunity offered by our unparalleled technology makes our nations’ failure to take advantage of it incomparably disastrous. The whole world suffers mightily because of that failure. Never has there been a greater need for God’s message of hope.
We must give this world the only message that really matters. We will show them how to use the media.
Years ago, when the Soviet Union was strong, the Japanese were asked who they feared most. They answered that they feared Russia most militarily, but they feared America most culturally. (If only we could see ourselves as others see us.) And they had good cause for that fear. Today the Japanese are saturated with America’s vile culture. Our culture is destroying us and other nations morally and spiritually. We prate about how good we are and sing “God Bless America”—but God is cursing America, Britain and the Jews in the Middle East. He will continue to do so until we see our black sins and repent.
The Philadelphia Church of God has bought and paid for 170 acres and all of our buildings. What is it all for? We are getting ready to help Christ rule this world and the universe!
God has blessed us mightily. Now He wants to fire our imaginations to see what a marvelous, mind-staggering future this world has. We have the greatest, most complete message God has ever given to declare!
It is like these COG leaders deliberately mock Bob Thiel as the irrelevant fool that he is and his worthless message.
Nothing screams “Philadelphia Church of God = Era of Brotherly Love” quite like the warm, fuzzy kind of love that rips families apart faster than a Black Friday sale at Walmart.Like John, we must never lose this awesome vision of love! Then we must be a witness for God. This is what the world so desperately needs.
It Is Official! No Prehistoric Humans/Pre-Adamic Humans, So Says Crackpot Bob The Prophet
And now, behold: God’s most highly educated Prophet to ever grace the Church of God movement has graciously opened his mouth to enlighten us on prehistoric man, dinosaurs, and Adam and Eve. Quick, everyone, drop to your knees and bask in the radiant glow of his magnificent wisdom! Truly, we are not worthy.
Crackpot Bob writes:
Were Dinosaurs Prior to Adam & Eve?
When did dinosaurs live? The ‘National Catholic Register’ had an article by Stacy Trasancos titled ‘What Do You Say When Kids Ask About Dinosaurs?’ She brought up some dangers with the ‘young earth creationists’ and stated that dinosaurs were prior to Adam and Eve. Yet, she basically said that the first few verses of Genesis 1 should not be trusted. Yet, that is not the case. Does the Bible support any type of time gap between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2? Is there a gap symbol shown in the Masoretic text? Did the KJV and NKJV translator err in translating a disjunctive as a conjunctive? Must the earth only be about 6,000 years old? Is billions of years possible? Getting to dinosaurs themselves, do the fossil records support them being prior to a time of replenishment? Could dinosaurs have been destroyed by a ‘dark ice age’ or does the Great Flood of Noah’s time make the most sense? Did the old Worldwide Church of God bring up several facts that ‘young earth fundamentalists’ misunderstand and discount? Is the Bible scientifically reliable? Dr. Thiel addresses these issues and more.
Nothing punctures a COG prophet’s delicately inflated ego quite like a Catholic—or heaven forbid, a woman—daring to know more than he does. The horror! The scandal! How dare mere mortals out-read the Oracle of Armstrongism!
Scientists admit that all humans have the same mother, though they often consider that mother was older than Eve of the Book of Genesis.
Now, as used by critical historians, “prehistoric time” is said to refer to earliest antiquity nowhere documented in written records. But the Bible records, “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth” (Genesis 1:1). Here is a documented account reaching back to the beginning of the physical universe. “Prehistoric time,” in that sense, is therefore irreconcilable with Scripture. It should come as no surprise, therefore, to learn that biblical passages reveal occurrences prior to the time of man.
If however, we define prehistoric as the time before humans began to write, then we can speak of prehistoric creatures and events.
There were no prehistoric humans prior to Adam. Including others of the ‘genus Homo.’Adam and Eve were therefore the first true humans.
While there are fossil records of apes and other creatures that predate Adam, these creatures were not the same as modern humans as far as God is concerned.
Someone really ought to drag Crackpot Bob out to White Sands, New Mexico, and gently park his anointed face right in front of those pesky 23,000-year-old human footprints literally strutting alongside mammoth and dire wolf tracks. But nah, that would be far too inconvenient for his airtight theology.
White Sands New Mexico:
Age: The oldest human footprints are approximately 23,000 years old, with a range of 23,400 to 22,600 years ago based on radiocarbon dating of pollen.
Dating methods: Initial dating was done using radiocarbon analysis of seeds. Later research used optically stimulated luminescence and radiocarbon dating of conifer pollen from the same layers to corroborate the age.
Significance: The age suggests humans were present in North America much earlier than previously believed, before the glaciers fully closed off migration routes.
Associated evidence: The footprints are found alongside fossilized tracks of other ice age animals, such as mammoths and dire wolves.
Oh, silly us! According to the infallible Crackpot Bob, anyone who points at those White Sands footprints and dares call them "human" is just a drooling, Bible-hating moron who deliberately turned off their brain the moment Genesis was printed.
But many scientists have tried to teach otherwise. The Bible reveals that they should know the truth, but do not:
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man — and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. (Romans 1:18-25)
Oh, those poor, bumbling scientists with their fancy “degrees” and “evidence” and “peer review”; don’t they realize that the only accredited source of literally ALL knowledge in the universe is a COG prophet who couldn’t pass a middle-school geology quiz? How dare they keep digging up facts when Crackpot Bob already explained everything from the safety of his folding-chair throne!
But give the man credit where it’s due: in a stunning display of open-mindedness, Crackpot Bob has graciously conceded that dinosaurs were, in fact, real. (Yes, the same guy who insists the planet is 6,000 years old is totally fine with 70-million-year-old thunder lizards. Consistency is for losers anyway.) We should all applaud this bold, totally-not-contradictory compromise that keeps both the fossil record and his ego perfectly intact. Bravo, Bob. Truly a scholar for the ages.
Humans have the spirit of man in them, whereas animals, including the other primates, do not. The reality that there is a spirit in humans is taught in both the Old and New Testaments:
8 But there is a spirit in man,And the breath of the Almighty gives him understanding. (Job 32:8)11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? (1 Corinthians 2:11)
God gave animals instinct, but not the type of understanding that He gave humans. Many scientists will not admit that there is a spirit in man that God gave.
Pre-Adamic primates, were, at best, like advanced chimpanzees. There were no true humans before Adam.
But what about dinosaurs? Yes, they look to have been before Adam.



