Davey Pack: Your Final Test Will Be If You Really Believe I AM Joshua

Davey tires to use HWA's writings to justify that excuse he is trying to come up with to make himself known as the end time Joshua, the true successor to Herbert Armstrong.

Davey quotes from a letter by HWA where he claims that he did not know who his successor would be and that God would appoint that person which would in turn be a test of the faith of the brethren.

Out final test will be after the three church leaders all die in August  is that we acknowledge that Davey is The Man!

“And let me tell you, THE HEAD OF THIS CHURCH IS ALIVE! Do you believe it? Jesus Christ! DO WE BELIEVE HE LIVES? Do we believe He’s on the job? Do we believe, if I am in need of correction, that He is able to see to it and give it? Let me tell you, I BELIEVE IT! I believe it through and through. And I FEAR IT! And I TREMBLE AT IT!

 “If anything should happen to me, it will only happen if God allows it. God can keep me alive as long as that is necessary. And He will, as long as He feels it’s necessary. And I don’t think He is going to take me from THIS WORK until this job is finished. But if He should (if I should be wrong about that), can you trust the Living Christ to provide the man that will take over?

 “If you’d ask me to choose, I couldn’t do it. I wouldn’t know who to choose right now. And I have no authority to do it. THIS IS GOING TO BE A TEST OF YOUR FAITH! Or, do you want to take it into your own hands, and know who it’s going to be—someone YOU can know in advance? Someone YOU can approve? Someone YOU CAN VOTE FOR? Oh, sometimes I say, ‘Shame on us.’ Let’s wake up.”

God used Mr. Armstrong to reveal how God would handle his successor—and in a sermon titled “Zerubbabel’s Temple.” Mr. Armstrong did later go on to appoint Joe Tkach, who obviously was not the true successor to lead God’s Church, but rather was selected by God to bring a great test on God’s people regarding whether they would hold to the truth or follow deceiver(s). Mr. Armstrong did understand he had no authority to make Mr. Tkach an apostle, who eventually declared this of himself after NO fruits appeared. Mr. Armstrong’s TRUE successor—and this becomes obvious—would necessarily have to be revealed later.

Dave Pack: Why Aren't People Looking For Me?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Poor Davey.  No one seems to care and no one certainly is looking for him.  He is right about one thing.  No one CARES or wants to return to the pig slop that Davey is promoting.

Being unable to recognize who is God’s final leader COMPLETELY ends the ability of ministers today to serve God’s people. All would agree, no matter who they now think Joshua is, he would only be found in one place—one “House” (Hag. 1:4)—one Church! The leadership of one man cannot be split over several organizations. Joshua’s identity does not lead one to Zerubbabel’s identity but Zerubbabel’s does lead to Joshua. The one who fulfilled the role of Joshua would uphold all of Zerubbabel’s teachings, including traditions, standards, judgments, policies and truths.

We will see the prophet Zechariah makes clear Joshua is alive at Christ’s Return. Haggai speaks of/to this man five times, and Zechariah reveals that Zerubbabel eventually falls out of the picture because Zechariah 3 describes Joshua working alone until Christ’s Return, with Zerubbabel no longer present. A modern Joshua was foretold to arrive after Mr. Armstrong. We might at least ask: Why are people not out looking for this man? The answer is at least partly that they do not want to return to things Zerubbabel taught.

God Told Davey That He Wants Zerubbabel (HWA) Remembered Forever

Part of the reason Davey Pack thinks he is the chosen one is that he claims to be following in the footsteps of Herbert.  Davey is imitating Herb's campuses and gardens, covets his Steuben crystal, copies his books and plagiarizes ideas.  Dave has not been capable of coming up with an original idea yet.  Davey has always been known to be a copy-cat taking others ideas and claiming them as his own.

Remember that Haggai 2 concludes with a special tribute to Zerubbabel. One of the major problems in the splinters is that God’s ministers have themselves almost universally forgotten Mr. Armstrong’s extraordinary prophesied role in restoring truths to God’s 20^th-century Church.

God announces that His chosen leader becomes (“I will make you as”) a signet. This means a “signature ring, seal or signet” in the Hebrew. Where else in the scriptures does God describe the work of one of His leading servants in such a unique way? Nowhere! Without Mr. Armstrong’s over 52 years of incredible perseverance, resourcefulness, dedication and faithfulness against staggering obstacles and so many enemies, the ministers throughout the splinters today would all be somewhere else doing something else. They would never have learned the truth. Yet, having died over 27 years ago, Zerubbabel has been largely forgotten. God wants Mr. Armstrong remembered for what he was—what he did. Several times in Haggai 2 the ministry is told to “consider,” with part of what they are to consider shown to be in this context. In fact, until they do, these ministers will remain blocked from an enormous amount of understanding regarding what will happen going forward, and they cannot be used as true ministers. And they have no foundation to understand who is Joshua, as well as this man’s role following Zerubbabel and preceding Christ’s Return. Zerubbabel’s identity paves the way to knowing who is Joshua! Without this knowledge, both Zechariah 3 [describing Joshua] and Zechariah 4 [describing Zerubbabel and the Two Witnesses] remain closed off from their understanding.

Davey Pack On How He Respects Zerrubbabel While the Rest of the COG's Reject Him

Davey Pack, Mr. Perfection and leader of the worlds most superfantabulous Church of God EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is getting ready to reveal who Joshua is....though anyone with any reading capability knows who he is going to reveal.

But first, he wants to get across that he is the ONLY one in the entire Church of God that respects Herbert Armstrong the Zerubbabel.

With their thinking now overthrown, many former WCG brethren no longer believe Mr. Armstrong was Zerubbabel—and many of these are adamant. But we might ask: If Mr. Armstrong was wrong about this, who else could have been Zerubbabel? Who else finished laying the foundation of God’s House? Who else is even remotely a candidate?

Some critics, loathing the idea that Mr. Armstrong could have been ANYTHING special, actually claim that Zerubbabel is Christ, or that Joshua is Christ. Imagine Christ inspiring the prophets Haggai and Zechariah to carry messages to Himself, or rather to both of “Himselves” since He might be both Joshua and Zerubbabel. Next imagine Christ telling Himself (twice) as He does in Haggai to “fear not” and to “be strong” and that “I am with you.” How would the God of the Old Testament be with Himself? Now imagine Christ saying He “stirred up the spirit” (Hag. 1:14) of Himself when speaking of doing this to Zerubbabel or Joshua, or both. Further—and Zechariah 3 shows this—Joshua is: (1) seen standing with the Lord, (2) described as receiving Christ—“the Branch”—at His Return and (3) an angel duly charges (“protests” to) him about matters no angel would DARE say to Christ, who is God. Do not let ignorant lay members or even ministers distort your thinking.

So, like Zerubbabel, Joshua is a human being—one man!—who lives just before and up to the time of Christ’s Return.

Anyone want to start taking bets on who Davey is going to reveal as Joshua?