As Los Angeles burns with rioters, God's most highly favored self-appointed prophet to ever exist in the arc of humanity's existence on this earth has blown a major gasket over Banned. For some unimaginable reason, this blog seems to pop his cork a lot! I sit here and ponder daily how is it that we can offend him so easily? I guess that is why he is an avid reader of this blog, multiple times a day.
I can hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth all the way down here in Pasadena. Never has the Church of God had a more delicate and easily offended self-appointed and illegitimately ordained prophet in its midst. That's saying something considering the many self-appointed prophets that preceded him in COGland.
Here is what the little guy started off with:
Well, some of Satan’s allies at Banned by HWA continue to post lies about me and others in the Continuing Church of God (CCOG).
Here is some of what was posted yesterday by Gary Leonard at Banned:
Look at what your rebellion and refusal to submit to church government caused when you apostasized from the Living Church of God. Your traitorous, backstabbing actions and lies were appalling. It is no wonder Rod Meredith kicked you to the curb! Heck, even Gaylyn Bonjour came out and said you were wrong in taking his blessing as justification for starting a new splinter group.
That is a lie, I was never kicked out of LCG, nor did I apostatize. And, I spoke to Gaylyn Bonjour myself many times and that is not what he said to me.
Gary Leonard, webmaster at the Banned site, has been spreading those lies about me for many years.
All of you big, bad meanies here had better stop picking on Bwana Bob! How could you do this when he is God's most highly favored prophet, preordained before the earth was formed, to come in these perilous end times to give a warning to the world, wait...sorry, to print hundreds and hundreds of booklets no one cares to read.
The Great Bwana loves to gaslight Living Church of God leadership, Gaylyn Bonjour, and the rest of the church by claiming that Bonjour double blessed him to start a new lacking in personality cult. Bonjour did no such thing and did not have that in mind when he blessed Bob that he speak clearly to Rod Meredith when he went in for a meeting. Bonjour and NO INTENTION of blessing Bwana Bob or ordaining him to start a new church made in a fit of rebellion. For Bwana Bob to claim otherwise is to blatantly lie, which he does, continually.
God's greatest gift to the church then trots out Jesus to support this intense persecution that the Great Bwana is suffering. If he would stop lying and making outlandish claims, no one would be bothering him,
alas...
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you (Matthew 5:10-12)
Certain ones at Banned and various other places have regularly been fulfilling that prophecy and saying all kinds of things falsely against me, the CCOG, and others in various COGs.
One thing that many people at Banned and the other anti-COG sites cannot stand is the idea that the true ministry is not in it for the money. Many who became bitter against the WCG have asserted that the ministry is only in it for the money. Certain ones have claimed that the COG ministry lives exceedingly well off the backs of the tithe-payers. Yet I do not, as my income does NOT come from the CCOG nor those who donate to it.
I can state, with God as my witness, that Bob Thiel is NOT a true minister of the church. He never has been and never will be unless he repents of his lies and blasphemies. Besides, he is illegitimately ordained and has absolutely ZERO apostolic lineage in his illegitimate ordination, so that simple fact alone invalidates him as a true minister of the church.
The Great Bwana then goes on to compare everyone here to Goebbels from WWII. I haven't stopped laughing for the last 15 minutes at that one! One thing is for sure: Bwana Bob is a real comedian!
He writes the following with the special comment that HE kicked the Living Church of God out instead of them kicking him out.
Satan’s minions have long followed Joseph Goebbels’ playbook on this–and, of course, did so well before Joseph Goebbels was ever born (cf. John 8:43-47).
Sadly, many have accepted lies promoted by people on the anti-COG websites.
While I have not responded to most of the falsehoods and accusations they continue to post about CCOG and me, sometimes I do.
Gary Leonard, the webmaster of the anti-COG Banned by HWA site has a history of libeling me and make false assertions about me.
For example, in June 2020 he posted:
Meredith publicly rebuked Thiel from the pulpit and kicked him out of the church (Leonard G. Why do COG members still feel the need that they still have to go to the ministers for answers? June 19, 2020)
That was about the third time in three weeks in 2020 that he had some version of that lie at his website–and his site has had versions of it since.
Of course, all the top leadership of the Living Church of God know full well I was not kicked out. I left because the leadership had serious integrity problems and refused to keep promises that they repeatedly made to me.
Gary Leonard cannot get over the fact that it was I who “kicked out” LCG on December 28, 2012, not the other way around. If he and others at his libelous site would stop repeating the lie I was kicked out of LCG, I would not feel the desire to sometimes comment about it.
Perhaps it should be mentioned that right after I left, even Jim Meredith (son of Dr. Meredith) emailed me and asked me to reconsider and come back. I declined.
Using a comment from Jim Meredith to support oneself is not a wise decision since Jim is not known as the brightest bulb in LCG pack.
LCG leadership has posted over and over on their blogs and in comments to LCG members that Bob was kicked out and that the integrity problem lay clearly at Bwana Bob's feet due to his ingrained narcissism. Rod Meredith about how much Bob disdained instruction:
I have prayed that for your own good and your future reward in God’s Kingdom, you will sincerely ask God at this time to give you an open mind and willing heart to heed Almighty God’s instruction in Proverbs 15:31-33: “The ear that hears the rebukes of life will abide among the wise. He who disdains instruction despises his own soul, but he who heeds rebuke gets understanding. The fear of the Lord is the instruction of wisdom, and before honor is humility.”
And, about his lack of humility:
Bob, I have personally liked you, wanted to encourage you and have tried to work with you for years. However, I have seen that you have had great difficulty in learning the lessons of deep humility that God wants all of us to learn. With very few exceptions, nearly everyone who knows you has clearly seen that—although you have a quick mind and great energy—you have nearly always thought very highly of yourself and of your own opinions.
It was not just the ministry that had to deal with the Great Bwana's narcissism; the members got sick of his games, too:
You have offended or at least “bugged” dozens of Church members with this very self-important, pushy and “know-it-all” attitude and approach. So if I, as a minister of Christ for over 60 years and one old enough to be your father—can help you, I would certainly like to do this. For I love you as a fellow human being and one I have known and shared a number of hours with in talking over matters related to the Bible and our entire purpose here on this earth.
LCG members have been the most vocal about calling Bwana Bob out as a fraud. They saw it when he was in LCG. That is why the church never ordained him. Global Church of God also saw the same toxic characteristics and never ordained him. The Worldwide Church of God also saw his toxic mannerism and refused to ordain him.
The Great Bwana then drags Gavin Rumney up from his grave to try and discredit him for exposing Bwana Bob's Indian diploma mill. That has been Bwana Bob's sore spot for years now.
He then goes into great detail, giving his tainted version of just how things went down with Gaylyn Bonjour's so-called double blessing and a few more meltdowns over me.
He counts his so-called persecution s a blessing:
So yes, Gary Leonard, Jesus said I am blessed when you post all kinds of insults, evil, and false things about me. Jesus knew His faithful people would be lied about.
The only problem with this is that the so-called "continuing" Church of God is not God's church. Never has been and ever will be as long as it prostitutes itself to the law and the diabolically wicked biblical interpretations that Bwana Bob makes that lead his followers in Africa astray. They certainly may be true seekers of truth but have been swayed by corrupt leaders who have chuch-hopped various Sabbatarian groups for decades, trying to find out who will send the most money.
I can state for a fact that Bwana Bob Thiel is NOT a legitimate minister of God. He is NOT a leader of a so-called "true" church. I can state for a fact that Bwana Bob's so-called church is built upon lies, half-truths, and doctrinal heresy. No real follower of Christ would ever be a member of Bwana Bob's church. That is also a fact. Bob Thiel does NOT come in the name of Jesus Christ.
The Bible makes profound statements about the lying false prophet, Bob Thiel:
2 Peter 2:1 ESV
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
1 John 4:1-6 ESV
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. ...
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 ESV
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
Matthew 24:11 ESV
And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray.
2 Timothy 4:3 ESV
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,
Bob adds to scripture and the words of God with his own lies, which God condemns. All of his crap about dreams, visions, Fatima, Mayans, double blessings are all fluff meant to lead people astray. His resident witchdoctors in Africa in his congregations have him pegged! They know exactly what he is.
Deuteronomy 18:20-22 ESV
But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.
No one in ANY Church of God needs to fear Bob Thiel.
He is a false prophet.
He did not receive dreams or visions from God.
He is a false minister.
He is NOT a true minister of God.
God did not send him.
God did not command him to speak.
He is NOT leading a true Church of God.
He is a deceiver of the brethren.
God never sent him to the church.
These are immutable facts.Jeremiah 23:16 ESV
Thus says the Lord of hosts: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord.
Deuteronomy 18:20 ESV
But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.
Jeremiah 14:14 ESV
And the Lord said to me: “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I did not send them, nor did I command them or speak to them. They are prophesying to you a lying vision, worthless divination, and the deceit of their own minds.
