Fishy Tales Out Of Grover Beach, CA

It has been a relatively cool summer here in California, but now late summer/early fall heat has finally hit California, and even the coastal regions are affected by it. It apparently is so hot in the Grover Beach/Five Cities area that the brain of our most highly favored self-appointed prophet of God has started to get overheated, causing him to say the following lie:

The Continuing Church of God, which is NOT Protestant, traces its history from the apostolic church established in Acts 2 and holds to the original, biblical doctrines that the early Christians had. 

 

Many biblical doctrines that early Christians held to are NOT held to by Protestants today. Nor the Church of Rome or the Eastern Orthodox for that matter. 

 

For that matter, many of the unbiblical teachings and doctrines of Thielism and Armstrongism were NOT held by early Christians. In fact, if those early Christians were to appear in this day and age, they would have no idea who or what they were witnessing when they saw Thiel's little cult. They would immediately brand it as a deviant apostate church.

False Prophet Calls Dave Pack A False Prophet And Gives Him A Dire Warning!

I just love it when hypocritical, self-serving, self-appointed false prophets in the Church of God get all prissy and call other COG leaders false prophets. They seem to forget that the very verses they lob as grenades against their competition apply directly to them.

Bob Thiel condemned himself whith this:

David Pack has been in my prayers for spiritual reasons.

I have long felt that the following also applied to David Pack:

1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber. (2 Peter 2:1-3) 

 

12 But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption, 13 and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you, 14 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children. (2 Peter 2:12-14) 

 

18 For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. (2 Peter 2:18-20) 

 

While I wish David Pack no ill, and am praying for his health, I pray he and those with him will open their eyes and see the truth.

Oh, wait, is Dave supposed to repent and move over to the improperly named  "continuing Church of God, where the only truth is being preached? Hilarious, especially in light of the above-posted scriptures that damn Bob Thiel! 

News Flash: Dave Pack: Health Issue Scare - Requests Prayers

 

News Flash August 30, 2025
David C. Pack’s Health Prayer Request

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God admitted his health struggles to the brethren during “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 592)” on August 23, 2025. The 76-year-old Pastor General explained the issues with his heart and being exhausted by preaching, and requested prayers from the church.

This admission counters his previous statements when he boasted about how good his health was, and also exposes his comments over the years about why he sits at a table while preaching.

David C. Pack has a history of hiding his medical problems from the brethren. He verbally hid his struggles with tachycardia, even though the symptoms on his face during that time showed the truth.

At Headquarters, he was open about how he saw sickness as “weakness” and believed it was a result of a hidden sin. The medical issues of others were repulsive to him. He shamed employees for needing to take time off work to get better and even told an elderly woman suffering from the initial stages of Parkinson’s to hide her shaking hand while in his presence. “Mr. Pack gets mad when he sees my hand shake,” she told me.

When Dave contracted COVID-19 after mocking brethren in the Living Church of God for wearing face masks and not singing during the Feast of Tabernacles in 2019, Bradford Schleifer was compelled to mislead the church by saying, “Mr. and Mrs. Pack are fine,” to hide Headquarters’ embarrassing little secret. Weeks later, David C. Pack spun his illness as biblical and likened himself to Ezekiel being locked in his house so he could have time to refine his prophetic understanding.

Known to former Headquarters members and now documented in public, David C. Pack also said he “had no life” and “this is all I do.” Perhaps realizing he is a false prophet, false apostle, and false teacher is just around the corner. But do not count on it.

Marc Cebrian

exrcg.org

 

Why are COG Groups Doubling Down On "Heeding Wise Counsel" From The Ministry?

Why has there been such an emphasis lately in various Churches of God concerning members submitting to authority? Is something big about to explode again, or do certain COG leaders feel they no longer have control over members? Are members thinking for themselves?

Doug Winnail says:

Are You Easily Entreated? 

 

The Apostle James describes a Christian who uses God’s Spirit as “peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated” (James 3:17, King James Version) or “peaceable, gentle, open to reason” (Modern English Version). Such individuals will not erupt with anger or indignation if someone questions their actions, opinions, or decisions. They will not be so convinced that their own ideas or actions are right that they are unwilling to listen to advice from others. Solomon wrote that “the way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but he who heeds counsel is wise” (Proverbs 12:15). Solomon made numerous references to the value of listening to counsel (e.g. Proverbs 19:20, 27; 22:17). A true Christian who is led by God’s Spirit will be approachable, teachable, and conciliatory (1 Timothy 3:2–7; Galatians 6:16). Let’s strive toward this goal!
Have a profitable Sabbath,
Douglas S. Winnail