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Tuesday, December 9, 2025
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USEFUL CHARTS: The Pacified and Pro-Roman Messiah Jesus and Gospel
About Matt Baker:
Matthew James Baker[ is a Canadian educator and designer who was born in 1975.[
In a YouTube video, Baker said that he was born into a family who were members of the Worldwide Church of God. He described the church as a cult and has since converted to Progressive Judaism.
In 2003, he cofounded Beacon Hill Academy, a non-profit school in Nuwara Eliya, Sri Lanka, where he had previously worked as a teacher. When he moved to Vancouver in 2009, he uploaded around 100 educational charts online covering various topics which earned him money through Google AdSense advertisements on his website. He later began selling physical posters on Amazon.com and was able to rely on income from the UsefulCharts business by 2011.
Baker has a PhD in education, with his dissertation titled "Psychological type and atheism: why some people are more likely than others to give up God."
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Dr Matt Baker addresses Joseph Atwill's Caesar's Messiah
Matt gives an honest and nicely balanced view on the topic of who or what created the pro-Roman, pacified Christianity, we find in the New Testament and Messiah Jesus after the defeat of militant Judaism and Christian zealotry and the Fall of Jerusalem in 70 CE.
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Monday, December 8, 2025
Mandatory Belief: The "Or Else" of Faith
This was a billboard along the Interstate in South Carolina typical of the Southern Baptist mindset and motivator to accept Jesus.
I personally, have always had a faith problem with forgiveness being impossible without the shedding of blood (Hebrews 9:22), redemption by execution and "I am the way, the truth and the light. No man comes unto the father but by me". (John 14:6)
If the Romans or whoever wrote the story of the pacified Jesus Messiah meant to make it uncomfortable to reject, they did it well.
Sorry, that's just me
I don't believe anyone would argue that accepting Jesus, however one defines that, is an either/or else proposition.
There is no free will involved. You can only choose wrongly if you do not choose rightly. There is only one right answer.
Belief and acceptance of the story of Jesus as presented with all that can be questioned, doubted or suspect, is mandatory if one is to be on the right team.
Whether one accepts the theology of Jesus the first time or the second first time or after a good beating, there is no other way.
"Trust and obey, for there's no other way to be happy in Jesus, but to trust and obey" as I sang with gusto as a kid and yet it bothered me as well. Seemed risky and rather dictatorial with no good or any alternatives allowed.
Belief in the story of Jesus, which must be accepted on faith, and the theology that follows from it is compulsary, mandatory, obligatory and required...OR ELSE.
No one on the planet will ever meet the Father God if they don't go through the Son God.
The "Or Else" factor in mandatory belief and practice has always been the Biblical approach towards those less inclined to believe.
Zechariah 14:16-21
And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
This is just one of my personal stuggles with Christianity and belief since when I first believed.
Trust and Obey is always risky in human hands and compliance, or else, is no reason to believe anything.
https://godliberationcathedral.org/posts/what-happens-if-you-fail-to-accept-jesus-christ
The Eternal Consequences of Rejecting Gods Gift of Salvation
"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." - John 3:36 (KJV)
The question what happens if you fail to accept Jesus Christ is one of eternal significance. It is not a question of religious preference or theological debate—it is a matter of life and death, heaven and hell, eternal blessing and eternal judgment.
The Bible provides clear, unambiguous answers to this crucial question, and every person must face it honestly before their time on earth ends.
Rejecting Jesus Christ means turning away from the greatest gift God has ever offered humanity: His grace, forgiveness, and salvation. It means refusing the only remedy for sin that God has provided. The stakes could not be higher, and the consequences could not be more serious.
This is not meant to frighten but to inform, for God has revealed these truths in His Word so that we might choose wisely and escape the judgment that awaits those who refuse His Son.
The Biblical Reality of Rejection
What happens if you fail to accept Jesus Christ? Scripture answers this question directly and repeatedly:
You Remain Under Gods Wrath
"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him" (John 3:36, KJV). This verse reveals a sobering truth: those who refuse to believe in Jesus Christ remain under Gods wrath. They do not move from wrath to grace—they remain in the state of condemnation they were born into.
Gods wrath is not arbitrary anger or uncontrolled rage. It is His holy, righteous response to sin—His settled opposition to all that is evil and rebellious against Him.
Every person is born under this wrath because all have sinned and fallen short of Gods glory (Romans 3:23). The only escape from divine wrath is through Jesus Christ, who bore that wrath on our behalf. To reject Christ is to remain under the wrath you were born into.
You Will Not See Eternal Life
The same verse declares that those who do not believe in the Son "shall not see life". Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me" (John 14:6, KJV). There is no other way to eternal life except through Jesus Christ.
"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:12, KJV).
Gods plan of salvation centers exclusively on Jesus Christ. No other religious leader, no other religious system, no amount of good works or moral improvement can save you. Christ alone is the Savior. To reject Him is to reject your only hope of eternal life.
You Remain Unforgiven
Without faith in Christ, your sins remain unforgiven. "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1 John 1:9, KJV). But this forgiveness is only available through Jesus Christ, who died to pay the penalty for our sins.
"In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace" (Ephesians 1:7, KJV). Forgiveness comes through Christs blood shed on the cross. Those who reject Christ reject the only means of forgiveness God has provided. They remain guilty before God with no covering for their sins.
The Exclusivity of Christ
Some find it offensive that Christianity claims Jesus is the only way to salvation. But this is not arrogance—it is what Jesus Himself taught. He said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me" (John 14:6). We did not invent this exclusive claim; Jesus made it Himself.
The Biblical Doctrine of Hell
What happens if you fail to accept Jesus Christ? Scripture teaches that those who die without Christ face eternal judgment in hell:
Hell is a Real Place
Jesus spoke more about hell than anyone else in Scripture. He described it as a place of eternal fire, darkness, weeping, and gnashing of teeth. "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell" (Matthew 10:28, KJV).
"And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched" (Mark 9:43, KJV). Jesus describes hell as a fire that is never quenched—indicating eternal, unending suffering.
Hell Was Not Created for Humans
An important truth often overlooked: hell was not originally intended for human beings. "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels" (Matthew 25:41, KJV). Hell was prepared for Satan and his fallen angels—not for people made in Gods image.
Humans go to hell only by rejecting the salvation God offers through Christ. God does not send people to hell capriciously—they choose hell by refusing the remedy He has provided. Every person who ends up in hell will be there because they rejected Gods gracious offer of salvation through Jesus Christ.
Eternal Separation from God
Hell is ultimately eternal separation from God and all His goodness. "Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power" (2 Thessalonians 1:9, KJV). Those in hell will be separated from Gods presence forever—cut off from all light, love, joy, peace, and every good thing.
This separation is eternal and irreversible. "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal" (Matthew 25:46, KJV). The same word translated everlasting for punishment is used for eternal life. If eternal life lasts forever, so does eternal punishment. There is no second chance after death, no escape from hell once judgment is pronounced.
Conscious Eternal Suffering
Some attempt to soften the biblical doctrine of hell by suggesting annihilation—that unbelievers simply cease to exist. But Scripture teaches conscious, eternal suffering. Jesus described hell as a place where "their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched" (Mark 9:44, KJV). The rich man in Jesus' parable of Lazarus and the rich man was conscious and in torment in hell (Luke 16:19-31).
In Revelation, we read: "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever" (Revelation 20:10, KJV). This is not annihilation but eternal, conscious torment.
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The remedy for doubt seems to be faith, which is belief without evidence and trust in the word of God, (Romans 10:17) which is what one doubted to begin with. Seems rather circular much like the Bible being true because it says it is true.
Sunday, December 7, 2025
BETRAYAL! Broken Promises, Satanic Attacks, Failed Ordination, Balaam's Wages, FIlthy Lucre, Plus A Topless Woman!
Samuel writes:
ANNOUNCEMENT!!!Dear brethren,When Jonathan Dicen, a minister in the Philippines, approached me, we talked about shared values, and how God says that “two cannot walk together unless they be in agreement”(Amos 3:3).We had agreed we would walk together moving forward in Christ.He told me he felt God was reviving the work of the Worldwide Church of God and he wanted to be a part of it, and revive the work there in the Philippines.He also saw the need for tithes and offerings to be collected in accordance to God’s tithing law. I was not an ordained minister, so have not been able to receive nor handle any tithes and offerings, and Mr Dicen wanted to remedy that. So he “authorized” me to receive tithes and offerings. I published this authorization at his request.Mr Dicen seems to me to be a very friendly man. I have chatted with him, and talked on the phone with him two times.This last phone call, he relayed to me how he had been recontacted by another group, hired, and would be included in another group and he would no longer be joining with us and the Worldwide Church of God.This broke his word to me. We had promised to walk together through thick and thin, through good times and bad times.He was offered a “better payroll”, so he has decided to step away.
In the Churches of God it’s never been about Jesus, prophecy, or owning church buildings—nope! It’s always been about the real god they truly worship: Money. Cash. Filthy lucre. Cold, hard tithe checks and offerings.
I removed my post on our website(worldwidechurchofgod.org) concerning Mr Dicen and tithes and offerings.I am not surprised at how things came about, but I did step out in faith trusting and asking God to reveal to me who this man was, how trustworthy he is, and whether he is walking with God or not.I announced his involvement, the authorization and expansion of the work into the Philippines, at his request. He wanted me to send him monthly money to help the work in the Philippines, and he also talked about ordination, as he said it would resolve many problems I have with detractors.I am not interested in becoming a minister. God is in charge of that. I full support the true ministers, but please brethren beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing, who come along looking like ministers of righteousness.This appears to been about money and payroll m, and Mr.Dicen accepted the better offer from another group, breaking his word with me, before God and Jesus Christ, and since it was made public it was set before the entire church(at least those who paid attention).
People warned Samuel that Dicen was not on the up and up, including his own brother Timothy.
I held him accountable, but I also should not have announced his inclusion without finding more knowledge about him. But I did take to prayer when I originally posted, telling God that I can only take people for what they say, I cannot force them or coerce them to do what is right. But since Mr Dicen gave me his word, I held him accountable before everyone.Now it is sad for me to say, he is no longer walking with us, and has broken his promise.I trusted in Jesus Christ our head to make things known. He is in complete control of His Church. I trust people too much, but I also want to give people a chance to do the right thing. And so I may appear to be an easy mark, someone to be easily taken advantage of, but my focus is to look to Jesus Christ and be ready to respond zealously and fearlessly.People can hurt me. I am used to it. I am just saddened to lose trust with someone I was so eager to build truth with, especially when someone comes to you claiming to be a fellow member and brother in Jesus Christ.But prayers have been answered!!!!!
Oh noes!
And Jesus Christ INTERVEENED on our behalf as our Good Shepherd. And I now have to publicly sever full connection with Mr Jonathan Dicen.His actions has caused doubt and confusion for those weak in the faith, and now I have to explain why he is no longer going to be with us.He still wants me to come to the Philippines, to be ordained into the ministry. I respectfully decline. No. This was not of Jesus Christ! I am not seeking after an office in the ministry. And if Jesus Christ wants me ordained the job will get done by a man authorized by Jesus Christ. When one is so easily swayed by a paycheck, then hirelings hire hirelings. I’m not for sale.While I appreciate the friendliness, I don’t appreciate the name of God being besmirched because one could not toe the line and not be swayed by balaam’s wages. How much is a red bowl of soup?So please mark well, his separation. He does not desire it, but I will step forward and now announce it. He is no longer associated with us.
Que the Satanic attack:
When he first came to me, I went to fast and pray about it. I came down sick and have been in and out of hospitals for the last 3-4 weeks!It turns out problems that already existed was working against me, but the doctors couldn’t figure out why I was sick and near death’s door! Satan can spiritually CHARGE things where that is the only logical explanation for being that sick. It was keeping me from studying, from listening to sermons, from prayer on my knees as I was battling a fever all the time.When I ended up in the hospital this last Friday, I couldn’t get church services listed on the website because I was away from my computer in a hospital bed, but I had time to sit up and pray and Bible study and I had a very rewarding Sabbath day! Now I am feeling much better, and now Satan seems to be withdrawing and fleeing.
Note, Satan seems to be fleeing (praise be! miracles do happen!), but don’t pop the Manashevitz quit yet.
Stay strong, soldier. You’ve survived hospital visits, betrayal by a money-hungry opportunist, and now this ultimate test. We always knew the final hurdle before the Wonderful World Tomorrow would be bare boobs.
My neighbor next door, banged on my front door this morning and when I opened she was topless, which I didn’t appreciate, and she began to tell me how loud the voices from my apartment was!I was alone and I heard no such voices! I explained that maybe it was the tv.She was stoned and high as a kite, but it seemed to be the cherry on top. Satan and his demons were attacking. I went back inside and began praying asking God to remove the demons, because they were stirring up my neighbors for the reason of possible expulsion from my apartment! That is the only reason i can see why such a thing was occurring to her. Now maybe she heard loud voices coming up from the apartment beneath hers thinking it was me, but she was inspired nevertheless to accuse me falsely of it. That is how demons work.And now Christ has intervened and protected us from association with the wrong people. I’m sorry for getting hopes high. I had my hopes raised, because i have wanted the work to expand and expand with God’s good blessings. He will and HE IS, but in His own way and timing.This experience has taught me something about some tactics Satan uses. I was already aware of them, but I wanted to believe this was not the case.I trusted God and God came through in the end. Many people may cling to us along the way, we cannot judge them for wanting to be with us, but as soon as their fruits are born, we must stand with Jesus Christ.So no I won’t be going to the Philippines. I won’t be ordained by Mr Dicen. I am rejecting the authority he said he “gave t me” concerning receiving tithes and offerings, but that was deceitful given in order for him to receive money through me. Please do NOT send me nor Me Dicen any tithes and offerings. If any arrive at my address, I will quickly return to sender.Thank you for your prayers. It seemed too good to be true, but it shall not deter me from looking and trusting in Jesus Christ. Mr Dicen will be held accountable by Christ. Please pray for him, but please beware of him according to Bible command.In Jesus Christ’s nameSamuel Kitchen
And there you have it, folks—the latest thrilling installment in the never-ending soap opera that is Armstrongism in 2025.

