Religious Nuts

I get all kinds of email from wacko's out there in regards to items of interest from the various COG's.  Many obviously have severe mental health issues.  Others are prime examples of what black and white legalistic religiosity will do to people. They have all the answers and everyone else is wrong.  They are saved and the rest of humanity is damned. God speaks to or through them with some secret message that the world supposedly needs to hear..  The list could go on and on.

Over the weekend I received this from a guy who calls himself Junior Watchman.  His magical god is ready to dish out punishments upon all who disagree with him.  Anytime you see the word "Watchman" in the title of an Armstrongite you know that a few screws are loose. 70 years of modern COG history proves that.  How many hundreds of "watchman" have popped on to the scene since William Miller made an ass of himself?


Baby Watchman writes:

Is not the truth of Jesus Christ.

 

You ever been a victim of satanic ritual abuse and survived to tell about it?

 

You ever been introduced to the sons of the serpent who rule the world?

Most of what you say about ‘wacky conspiracy theories’ actually have much more truth about them than you realize, but alas, it’s expected because those who were never part of such things, speak on things they don’t even know from such a position.

Here’s some advise, either stop lying… or every dog has it’s day, not by my works, but by God’s own’s decress when you bear false witness.

Bob Thiel Comments About Meredith's Concerns

Bob Thiel writes in Living Church of God News:

09/14/12 p.m. Dr. Meredith contacted me yesterday and listed some LCG concerns about about my book Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States. I provided him feedback related to those concerns, including part of how I feel that book helps tie into the final phase of the work. We both mentioned mutual prayers and the Feast of Tabernacles, and I conveyed my wishes that he would have a great Feast of Tabernacles.
There are a lot of recent false assertions and reports about me and LCG matters on the internet, so this may be a good time to address a few of them. For example, James Malm (a blogger, that seems to be starting to form his own group, long has had major issues with me, LCG, UCG, COGWA, etc.) posted the following:

This ongoing battle through the summer began to climax as the COGWA talks progressed and Bob published his book on President Obama.  After a number of calls from Charlotte on this new book as well as many communications on his disagreement with the new falling away teaching; and especially about his attitude, that he was straightening out Charlotte; Doug Winnail flew out to San Diego for two days of talks with Bob in August.
With the issues unresolved,  and there seems to be far more than only these matters, maybe LCG leadership finally got around to reading Bob’s other books?  More likely it is a power struggle over any potential agreement to cooperate with COGWA.
Rod Meredith wrote all congregations last Sabbath with a warning about believing anything written by Bob.
Now it appears that a choice to either obey and accept instructions from the leadership or be cast out has been given to Bob...
From what I can see, Bob Thiel is the leader of the anti cooperation with COGWA faction. 

The above assertions contain a lot of falsehoods, false conclusions, and/or false assumptions. Because others on the internet have picked up some of this, let me try to set out the facts about the above:

1. According to Dr. Meredith, there have been no positive talks about any type of serious merger cooperation with COGWA (Dr. Meredith, without me even bringing this up, yesterday again declared that no merger type talks with COGWA, or UCG for that matter, are in the works). (More on this can be found in my post RCM: There are No Merger Talks with COGWA or UCG.)
2. I, Bob Thiel, am not leading up any anti cooperation faction related to COGWA. Members and ministers in COGWA who wish to be part of LCG are welcome to contact Charlotte or other LCG ministers. I have never opposed that, but instead long encouraged that.
3. There has been no "power struggle" related to me and LCG's dealings with COGWA.
4. There was never one call from Charlotte (or anyone else in LCG) related to my "Obama" book until after I got the attachment (which had already been made public) to the Weekly Update late September 6, 2012. For James Malm to state that I received numerous calls from Charlotte about the book prior to 9/6/12 is totally false.
5. Dr. Douglas Winnail came out here (and I am nowhere near San Diego) on August 26th and 27th to go over LCG literature concerns that I raised (and the focus was NOT the falling away matter, though that was discussed as well). He did not come out here to warn me about my books. Actually, on both days that he was here I brought up my upcoming "Obama" book and he raised no questions or concerns about it. Dr. Winnail proposed the trip long before he knew about the book and the focus was primarily on matters of church history, doctrine, prophecy, and literature. And I also discussed my views on the final phase of the work and he brought up some Charlotte views. There was no discussion of COGWA, or UCG for that matter, that I can recall.
6. Dr. Meredith was not warning that people not to read my books or anything else. He simply wanted to make it clear, that despite the claims of others (not me) on the internet that I supposedly was LCG's "official spokesman" that I was not an employee of LCG and hence, did not officially speak for the organization. Not only is that true, that type of disclaimer has long been on the COGwriter home page. He advised people to check out what I write (cf. Acts 17:10-11), and I have always advocated that: Specifically, I have written, and it has been at the About COGwriter page for many years, “Don't simply believe me– Believe what the Bible really Teaches – Believe the Truth – Prove all things – Believe God!”
7. The suggestion that a "choice to either obey and accept instructions from the leadership or be cast out has been given to Bob" is not true. This did not happen nor did Dr. Meredith even hint of such to me yesterday either. Nor have I ever been accused of any type of disobedience that I am aware of by any LCG leader.

Perhaps I should mention that also on the internet, some have falsely suggested that a couple of the LCG commentaries in the past week or so were intended to be directed towards me personally. Dr. Meredith, without me bringing that subject up, apparently saw the same nonsense, and told me that this was not the case. And yes, I believe him about that. Dr. Meredith, himself, also took exception to claims that there was any "war" between the LCG evangelists and me.

Yesterday, I noticed that James Malm linked to my recent news article titled Persecution. He, and others who profess Christ, should read it (Christians are subject to persecution per 2 Timothy 3:12, etc. and false accusations per Matthew 5:11, etc.). And James Malm, and others who make false statements about me (and others), should consider what they are doing.

 So there you have it folks!  Straight from the mouth of the world's foremost authority on the end times and the church.  Everything is all sunshine, rainbows and lollipops in LCG right now.

How Times Have Changed

Van Robison on "Have You Been Censored?"

 

Have You Been Censored?

Every church cult attempts to censor its church members from exposure to criticism, alternative thinking, other beliefs and sources that differ.   Living in fear that to read what others are saying is a sure sign of significant indoctrination and that you are being abused spiritually.    Cults instill paranoia in their members and followers.   Over the years there have been many cult church groups and there are many in existence today, among which are the splinter groups of the WCG and the original WCG itself.

I know this is true because I was once a member of the cult church called the "Worldwide Church of God", with its many strange and weird doctrines and teachings.   Of course at that time I was a young man, with little experience in understanding what religious fraud is.   Herbert W. most definitely lived the life of a human "King", but in the end, took nothing with him but his own rotting flesh, which is the end result of all human beings, including the "Kings", the "Presidents", the "Pastors", the "Senior Pastors", the "Dr. Pastors" and all others.

Virtually 100% of all "heads" and "pastors" of all churches on earth want followers, for no other reason than your $cash.   Take away the $cash and there would be no "heads" of churches.   It is that simple folks.  They may preach from the man-made Bible, but the bottom line is that they are NOT speaking for God/Jesus Christ, THEY ARE PREACHING FOR YOUR $MONEY!!!  Naturally they don't want you be be a "church hopper" and they will condemn "church hopping" from the pulpit?   Oh my, I wonder why?   They lose your financial support of course.

That there are ulterior and hidden motives behind the censorship of you being exposed to different opinions, thoughts, beliefs and so forth is more than obvious.  It is a weak attempt at keeping you under their control. 

Well poo!


Van Robison

Ex-UCG Prophetess Val Says "I do not want any more spankings. "

Prophetess Val, who tried to take her message to United Church of God, was mocked and made fun of and then kicked out of the church.  Now she has written a "book" on legitimizing her end time legacy as a prophet, high priestess, or what ever the craziness she thinks she is.  Woe to those that mock her!

The prophetess writes:

In 2003 I was directed by God to the United Church of God. Because God gave me a full time job and a car of my own I was finally able to attend regularly. In 2005 I was baptized again and I renewed my vows to give God my life for his use. Pay close attention to what the Holy Spirit inspires you to say to God. We truly are not our own.

*Hebrews 5:14 “But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil”.

It would be wise to rightly divide (divide means separate) the word of love from the words of hate to find the true word of God that is in the Bible…

* 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Satan is counting on you not to hear a woman. This is still his world and in his world he has pushed mankind to believe that women are inferior and not to be trusted, listened to or believed.

God has a different test for the world (Acts 3:23) he commands every soul to hear his true word delivered by a woman or that soul will be destroyed. The soul that sinneth it shall die, once, but how we die is directed by God. Moses and Elijah are together in scripture. They are both in one prophet (Luke 1:17) at the heel of time. Elijah told the people that he was God's prophet (1 Kings 18:22) as do I, to prove the power of God by the true word (Jer 23:29) that turns the hearts of the Fathers to the children to stop the curse that was on the earth (Mal 4:5-6). Since April 2010 when this true word first went out to the world God has removed the curse on the earth. This evil world began with a battle of wits between the devil and a woman and this evil world will come to a close after a battle of wits between the devil and a woman, God is just. "And thou shalt bruise his heel" (Gen 3:15), (Jer 31:22). Eve did exactly what God raised her to do, as now do I.

I was so very heart broken and deeply pained (Rev 12:2) when my church family shunned me as crazy because of the true word that was growing inside me. I could not understand how others professing the Holy Spirit could treat me so unkind, especially when what I was telling them was of God (love). I asked God why? He told me, it is because they are lukewarm. He said, "they have a form of godliness but they deny my power" (2 Tim 3:5). All prophecies will be fulfilled. I too now say "not my will but thine be done". I write all that he inspires; I do not want any more spankings.

Some preachers have taught that the two wings of a great eagle is an airplane that they think will fly this church worth of people into the wilderness. This is not true; when Satan tries to destroy me (Rev 12:17) there will be no time for anyone to board a plane let alone a whole congregation to then take off into the air. The fact is his attack will be so swift that the earth has to open up to help me (Rev 12:16). As Elijah was taken into the air (2 Kings 2:1) so will happen for me (Rev 12:13-14). This website does turn the hearts of the fathers to the children by the word and will of God to prepare a people with his everlasting love for the coming millennial rule of Christ.

The last church before the return of Christ is lukewarm. The United Church of God is the church I was raised up from (Acts 3:22). They are now in the process of being spewed out because they would not hear me (Acts 3:23). They rejected hearing the way to become hot from a woman. *Rev 3:16-18 “So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see”. As God’s prophet I am commanded to speak boldly with the fire of his word, as he would (Heb 4:12). What you do with his word will determine your placement in his world. If you will not read all the posts on this website to see whether what I tell you is true or not then… *Acts 3:23 “And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.” … you will not be among the people that will be allowed to enter into the coming city of God (Rev 21:10-27) in his coming New Heavens and New Earth. I have bruised Satan by exposing his lies by the power of the word of God (John 1:1). *Gen 3:15 “And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.” The Good Tale