Dave Pack: Miraculous Healings, Demons Being Cast Out, Thousands of New Members

Packatolla wants all of you COGers out there that are looking for a home after years of wandering around from XCOG to XCOG and never being satisfied.  Pack wants you to know he has the worlds largest, most important and most miraculous COG on the face of the earth. He has written a letter to all of you apostate, demons possessed, slackers out there.  Amazing things are happening in RCG.  Web hits are up dramatically, Web downlands are earth shattering.  Miraculous healing are occurring.  Demons are being cast out.  Income is up 102%.

His church is experiencing, allegedly,  astounding growth with "thousands" being brought into the church.
He refuses to release his numbers though, as well as his finances.  So when he claims thousands, that could literately mean two thousand and two people as members.  "Thousands" plural can mean a lot of things, but in Armstrongism it usually means minuscule and irrelevant.

Dear Dave: Can I call you Dave?  Ok Dave.  

The above picture is what thousands (maybe even ten thouosand) symbolizes.  

Not the miniscule little "thousands" you claim.  

Once a liar, always a liar.

Jesus taught, “You shall know them by their FRUITS” (Matt. 7:16, 20). How often did Mr. Armstrong repeat this? Only one organization passes the test when fruits are the standard. These fruits spring from having the truth, traditions and standards of the past, and God’s guidance and blessings—which are all demonstrably provable! The many fruits in this letter represent the fingerprints of God for those interested and willing to look.

Every year the statistical growth in all categories within God’s Church and Work show an increase, and usually all of them a significant or large increase. But what follows is nothing short of a STATISTICAL TIDAL WAVE unlike anything we have seen before—and we have seen a lot of growth!

Some mind bloggling statistics of the greatest show on earth are:

"...it should be obvious that 20% growth for 12 straight years puts our official attendance in the thousands."

"All ministers (and wives) in the RCG ministry undergo a very extensive, sophisticated training program, via Ambassador Center, The Pastor General’s Report, numerous special Pastoral Care lectures, and an annual Conference for all ministers, among other means. Nothing like our training program is occurring anywhere else. In fact, nothing else is close."

"2011—102.2% above 2010
It is my prayer that God will help everyone in the splinters understand what the statistic you just read—growth in income—should mean to you. It should be literally IMPOSSIBLE to miss God’s fingerprints in just THIS SINGLE NUMBER. "    " The millions of dollars we received in 2010 more than doubled in 2011!!!"

"A World Headquarters campus is scheduled to open in April 2013—and to begin construction in April 2012. " (Obviously this will be in the Guinness Book of World Records for the fasted construction of a college campus and Auditorium in human history.)

 Someone had better get out the measuring tape to see who's dick is the biggest. with this boastful pissing contest:

 "Perhaps examine the quality, professionalism and “authority” (or lack thereof) of your organization’s telecast, in light of World to Come broadcasts, which can all be found at worldtocome.org and youtube.com/restoredcog. Incidentally, RCG’s YouTube totals for World to Come views is significantly greater than UCG, LCG and PCG combined! And we are just starting."

" Finally, and this is most important, view any of the 125 broadcasts available to compare the messages with those of your organization—and then decide who is continuing the fulfillment of Isaiah 58:1-2 in the same way as did Mr. Armstrong!"

" Regarding the amount of literature we offer, virtually all of our enemies ascribe the writing of these books and booklets to me, at the human level. While these enemies are trying to discredit me, they in fact greatly overcredit me. When they suggest that either I or my late wife (as my constant typist) could have done this on our own, even a fraction of it, they have unwittingly assumed a human being is capable of what no man could do, and over a short period of time, without tremendous miraculous help from Almighty God. Discerning brethren in the splinters will recognize God’s handprint."

"God’s Church continues to experience many dramatic healings, as well as a host of other miracles. Of course this has been most inspiring—and faith-increasing!—for the Church. No one hears in the splinters of outright truly miraculous healings any more. We do time and again. Here are just five brief examples, quickly assembled for my letter, of what is a long list of such healings:" ( Obviously God hates all the other splinter cults because they are dying from all kinds of diseases while we are being healed.)

 "Healings are only one of many kinds of miracles we see in God’s Church on a regular basis, miracles that His enemies cannot gainsay. For instance, we see dramatic open doors, special protection from calamities, and demons cast out. In this regard, Jesus instructs those listening in Luke 11:20 that “the finger of God” is responsible and “no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.” Are you listening to what these miracles mean? "

"I fear—I truly FEAR—for those who so freely speak against the work of the Holy Spirit in The Restored Church of God. If only they could have the good sense of carnal Gamaliel in Acts 5:34-39, and stop attacking us “lest haply [they] be found even to fight against God.” " (So we are supposed to fear Pack and his impotent little god? Hardly!)

"All eyes in God’s Church are looking ahead to the absolute explosion of additional growth that this letter heralds for 2012! It will surely be a year like none other for the reconstitution of God’s Work for this final age. It could now be said that we are on the last few pages of the last chapter of God’s Work!" 

Dave goes on to prostitute out Dale Schurter some more:

We are pleased to announce that a longtime minister in God’s Church, Mr. Dale Schurter, has resigned from the United Church of God (UCG) and, with his wife, Mona, come with The Restored Church of God (RCG). A resignation letter to UCG brethren and ministers explaining the reasons for Mr. Schurter’s decision has been posted on rcgtruth.com. Over the last five days, a great many people from every corner of the world have contacted us from UCG, but also other organizations, because of Mr. Schurter’s powerful letter and call to action. Our Mailing Department has been extremely busy. To see more and more people waking up to the false doctrine, wrong standards, poor fruits and continually worsening condition of their organizations has been most encouraging. We will have more to report with the passing of time.

 Schurter and hundreds of other defecting ministers will soon be exposing the false doctrines and teachings of all the other 600 some splinter cults of Armstrongism.  With the mind boggling, soon to come defections, of hundreds of COG ministers, the RCG will have first hand knowledge of how evil these 600 some splinter groups are.

Has the Church of God ever had such a bold liar as they now have with Davie Pack? 

  

Thiel Making Eyes At Baron Guttenberg Again

Dr. Bob is at it again. He wants you to know he has his eye on the Baron. I wonder if Spanky approves of this bromance?  He also wants you to know that the Baron will be the one that will come back over here and kill all of you reprobates when he brings the German armies back to destroy the nation.  Ho hum

As regular readers know, I have long had my eye on former German Defense Minister Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg as one to watch as a possible candidate to be the final King of the North of Daniel 11 and Beast of Revelation.

I have warned for some time that he would return to politics if he is the one.
His actions show that he is one we all should watch (cf. Mark 13:37).

An Ecumenical Church of God Love Fest In The Works?

Armstrongism has always mocked the Christan world when various churches met together to work towards a common goal.  Now it seems United Church of God and Living Church of God are extending an olive branch to each other so they can work together in fulfilling the commission.  Quite absent from this love fest is Church of God Worldwide Association, UCG's recently departed brethren.  Why the hypocrisy?

As the end of this age draws near, it seems more appropriate than ever that God’s people, wherever they may reside, support one another in fulfilling the commission Jesus Christ gave us. With this in the forefront of our minds, representatives of the of the United Church of God, an International Association, met with the leadership of the Living Church of God at Living’s Headquarters in Charlotte, North Carolina, on January 9-10 for a two-day visit. 

The purpose of the visit was to rekindle friendships and discuss ways to cooperate in serving God’s people. The meetings were cordial and positive and included an open and frank discussion about those things that we have in common, and some of our differences, including church government and the way each Church is organized. We also discussed our different strategies for preaching the gospel in this modern age. There was no discussion of any type of merger.

Discussions about areas of cooperation within the greater Church of God community included humanitarian concerns, disaster relief and other unforeseen events where we can help our members meet critical needs by supporting and loving one another as Jesus commanded. Cooperation could also include helping members who have difficulty getting time off for the Sabbath and Holy Days, and other legal matters that affect both organizations.  It was agreed that open communication between Church of God organizations will become more important as world events move towards their ultimate prophetic fulfillment. 

Those in attendance at the meetings in Charlotte on behalf of the Living Church of God were Dr. Roderick C. Meredith, Mr. Richard Ames and Dr. Douglas Winnail. Those who traveled from Cincinnati for the United Church of God were Mr. Dennis Luker, Mr. Victor Kubik and Mr. Peter Eddington.  Mr. Luker commented that the Cincinnati team felt most welcome and were treated very warmly. In addition to the meetings, the UCG visitors were given a full tour of the Living Church of God headquarters and adjacent media center.

Another tour?  These tours are starting to be dangerous!  Will the representatives immediately jump ship now to LCG because they were in awe and amazement at the magnificent work being accomplished in Charlotte?  Will we have another Schurter 20 page resignation letter from these guys?

Schurter Says He Offers Hope to COG Slackers

Dale Schurter has written about his amazing and mind boggling defection over to the Restored Church of God.  He claims hundreds have written to him and been restored back to wholeness by his amazing letter.  You would think that this event is the most miraculous thing to happen in the Church of God in decades.

Greetings again, everyone. As I continue to hear from people around the world, many are emailing and calling from several of the break-away groups of the WCG, in addition to folks in general. Comments indicate my letter has already helped many to see that they have slacked off in regular and heartfelt daily prayer and Bible study, among other things, and some have again committed to “get back on track.” As of this evening, my website has reached 960 cities in 40 countries. How encouraging and sobering at the same time.

He then goes on that not all comments have been warm and fuzzy.  Some disagree and he is not happy about the detractors ridiculing him. But takes it on the chin as a martyr for the truth no matter how painful..

And yes, some comments are negative, a few of them even hostile in nature. How we all long for the day “the accuser of the brethren” is no longer able to accuse the faithful daily before the throne of God. However, the vast majority of the comments are positive, including comments of appreciation to receive a “wake-up call,” and gladness to be back in touch again. Please continue to pray for all the brethren and those being called of God….yes, including those who do not yet understand in full, and strike out at others. This can be painful, but should never dissuade us from our commitment to the Father and Jesus Christ to stay the course to which we are called. Remember, “All who live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution” (II Tim. 3:12).

He should realize that his "detractors" see through the malarkey of his miraculous visit to Packman's HQ and how that cult is damaging hundreds of lives.  People are still shocked that he wants to be part of that kind of evil.

Idiotic Ron Weinland Video : Alien Demons

Armstrongism's latest fool to soon go down in flaming glory on May 27th is Ronnie Weinland.  Here is one of his more idiotic videos.

Brain Test

Let's free our minds from all things Armstrongite for a couple of minutes.  

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God Discussion Puts Ron Weinland On Hot Seat Tonight

Sign on tonight to listen to a lively discussion about one of  Armstrongim's biggest false prophets. There will be a discussion tonight on "God Discussion" that will feature a segment about Ron Weinland.

This is from the email I received this morning:

"...on our "God Discussion" show tonight during the 2nd hour of the program to talk about Ron Weinland.  The freethought types of blogs have gone wild promoting the story over the past few days, so it should be a well-received interview. 

Details on tonight's guests are here:

http://www.goddiscussion.com/88618/this-week-on-the-goddiscussion-show-a-night-of-humanism-and-reason-with-roy-speckhardt-al-stefanelli-and-others/

The show itself can be accessed live here:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/god-discussion/2012/01/13/roy-speckhardt-american-humanist-association

There is a web-based chat room that appears automatically, also, and it tends to be a hoot.

When it is live, the page notes that it is ON AIR and it will play from your computer speakers (you might have to press a button -- BlogTalk keeps updating but generally, the show automatically plays).  About 10-60 minutes after the podcast concludes, it is available for download as an MP3 from BlogTalk and shortly thereafter, is available on iTunes.  Slowly but surely, I am converting the shows into YouTube videos.  It's a long process and I cannot give a specific date on when tonight's show will be in video format."

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This Week on the God Discussion Show: A night of humanism and reason with Roy Speckhardt, Al Stefanelli and others, including the scoop on the latest 'end times prophet'

January 11, 2012 By admin 4 Comments

A slate of outstanding guests will be joining us for the first God Discussion Show of the new year.
First, we will be talking with Roy Speckhardt, Executive Director of the American Humanists Association.  Roy actively promotes the humanist perspective on progressive political issues. He’s appeared on CNN Headline News, Fox News, numerous national radio shows, and has spoken to dozens of local humanist groups across the country. He also serves as a board member of the Humanist Institute and the United Coalition of Reason and as an advisory board member of the Secular Student Alliance. He holds an M.B.A. from George Mason University and a B.A. in sociology from Mary Washington College. He lives in Washington DC.
Al Stefanelli is well-known for his work with United Atheist Front, Inc., which he founded in 2005 and ran until August 2011, at which point he shifted gears to serve as the Georgia State Director of American Atheists.  Al is the author of A Voice of Reason in an Unreasonable World and is a widely read journalist with the National Atheism Examiner, Freethought Blogs and Associated Content.  He has been a writer and journalist since 1993, starting out as a weekly columnist for a McClathy Newspaper, where he wrote a column called Think About It for ten years.  His work won a North Carolina Journalism award.  Al also produced and hosted the weekly syndicated broadcast Millennium for three years.  He is also a former Baptist Minister, Preacher and Evangelist.  Links to his various projects and online columns can be found at his official website, AlStefanelli.com.

QUICK NOTES:
Show Time:  Thursday night, January 12, 2012, 6  Pacific / 7 Mountain / 8 Central / 9 Eastern
Call-In Number:  914-338-0452
To hear the show live and participate in the web-based chat room:  http://www.blogtalkradio.com/god-discussion/2012/01/13/roy-speckhardt-american-humanist-association
More info about time zones, the chat room, archive downloads and hosts:  The God Discussion Show

Extras … Thomas Paine is perhaps the most influential of America's founding fathers, yet he is ignored or forgotten. The World Union of Deists has launched a campaign to convince the History Channel to produce and air a documentary about Paine. Jayson of the World Union of Deiests tells us more (you can sign the petition here). And *tentatively* we'll learn more about the Ronald Weinland, the doomsday preacher who says that Jesus Christ is returning on May 27, 2012.
As an added treat, we're happy to announce that we will have a chance to talk with Mike, who blogs at RonaldWeinland.info.  Mike will give us the scoop about God's latest "prophet" who has proclaimed that Jesus Christ is returning to earth on May 27, 2012 — and that people who "mock" Ronald Weinland's message will die of cancer.  Weinland's so-called prophecies have been around for awhile, and despite the failed May 21, 2011, doomsday prophecy of Harold Camping, has not backed down from his prediction.

Meredith's Wife Has Stage 4 Cancer

Living Church of God Northeast has announced that Rod Meredith's wife has stage 4 cancer.

Your prayers are requested for Mrs. Sheryl Meredith, wife of Mr. Meredith, who has been diagnosed with stage-4 cancer throughout her liver and other parts of the stomach region. 

It has always been a fact that wives of so many ministers and church leaders have been stricken by cancer.  During the 1980's there was a huge number of ministers wives that were stricken.

I am sure this has to be hard on Rod Meredith, since his first wife Margie also died from cancer. Plus, with Rod's stroke and his declining health this does not bode well.

Restored Church of God Defecting Minister Letter

 

 

Please use this form when specifically transferring your loyalty and mind over to the Restored Church of God and the Resident Apostle.  If good enough, if you are well known enough and can prove that you can send this letter to thousands of current COG members now attending the untrue churches, you just might have found yourself a job.

 

 

"Dearly Beloved____________________________________________________   "    

                             Please use the appropriate words that will endear you to the

                                                                        receiver

 

"Greetings to all of our dear friends.  ________________________________________________________________"

Give a long history of where you have been and how you got here. Please take your time and explain your entire connection to WCG including ALL your amazing contact with the Armstrongs.  (Do not mention the Tkaches).  Be careful NOT to say Mr. Armstrong trained you or any such thing. This simply will not wash.

 

"Over the last few years______________________________________________

__________________________________________________________________"

Please take lots of time to explain your perception of what has happened compared to the truth. Be dramatic.  Tell the brethren Satan's role in it all but be sure to point out the human instruments used to destroy God's Church.  Hold yourself above the fray of course and share the agony you felt watching it all but never really speaking up of course.

 

"Finally our eyes were opened.______________________________________________________________

 

_____________________________________________________________________"

Explain clearly how you opened your eyes. DO NOT take anytime to speculate on how long it took or why now.  You can lose points here if your move is connected to lower numbers and discord in your present Church.  Also, do not reveal they have been paying your retirement for a few years now.  Use appropriate "eyes opened" scriptures.  Be careful to make it sound like your eyes were recently opened. Saying your eyes have been opened for years is a mistake.  Also credit Satan with your not seeing things for such a long time.  If the brethren think you were too comfy staying put and saying nothing...well, just don't fail to credit Satanic eye scales.

 

"Almost as if Christ himself was leading us, we decided to stop by and take a tour of the Restored Church of God's World Headquarters.___________________________

______________________________________________________________________

Ok, here ya go.  Be very enthusiastic about this visit.  Please use the words "amazing, overarching, world's biggest, incredible, true, on track, " etc in your praise for the organization.  Mention the entire staff and team and again use words that make it seem they all get along, love how things are done and spend hours a day trying to be more and more transparent to all concerned.  DO NOT ask how many members there actually are.  DO NOT inquire about specific income figures. When you are told the stats  given be sure to act like that actually was the answer to your question.  DO NOT ask what personal family members, mostly untrained if ordained, make as a salary.

 

"We were honored to spend many hours personally with Mr. and Mrs. David C Pack._______________________________________________________________

____________________________________________________________________

____________________________________________________________________

Now....be very careful here.  Be sure to pour praise on the Resident Apostle.  DO NOT refer to him by a first or shortened name.  This is BIG NO NO!   Honor to whom honor and all that.  How well you learn to do this will directly impact your future income.  More honor=More Income.

 

"We have come to realize_____________________________________________

__________________________________________________________________

__________________________________________________________________

Here is your chance to shine and justify yourself. Please show how what you are doing is exactly what GOD, CHRIST, THE EARLY APOSTLES (especially Paul) HWA, Roderick C Meredith and a few leading....oops, no wait!!!!   HWA, David C Pack and a few unnamed yet to come leading Evangelists, would do.  Be sure your actions are easily proof texted in both the Old and New Testaments.  A lead towards the NT is helpful but not necessary.  Call Jesus  "Christ" as it sounds more crisp and authoritative.  BE SURE TO REMIND THE BRETHREN YOU HAVE FOUND THE LONG LOST ONE TRUE CHURCH.  Nothing short of this will get you hired.

 

"I must caution you about criticism to come both to myself and Mr. David C Pack

___________________________________________________________________

___________________________________________________________________

__________________________________________________________________"

 

Here is your chance to shine again.  Be a martyr glorious. But be careful!  You must be willing to blow off a bit less criticism than The Resident Apostle.  You must not come across as suffering more than he. It is your job to absorb the blows.  You are the armour. You are the buffer between Satan and God's anointed.  Do not take too much credit to yourself to be willing to be thrown under any bus. It is Satan who is criticising you.  NEVER take any input from your former friends and such too seriously.  They are blind and have eyes that do not see as you do and ears that do not hear the piper as you have.

 

"Brethren just look at these statistics from Mr. David C Pack himself.

__________________________________________________________

___________________________________________________________

___________________________________________________________"

Please just read the statistics given to you.  Do not ask about how much the income is or what the actual membership numbers are.  There are reasons these things are not given unto you. Just go with the numbers.  Don't kid about how years ago you had a garage full of Plain Truth Newstand copies that were counted as given out and weren't.  BE SURE you credit David C Pack with originating the Plain Truth Newstand Program, even if ...well, you know.  Do not kid about what "World Leaders" may have said after Mr. Pack left the room.  DO NOT compare what they may have said with what was said of Ron Weinland when he spoke to the brilliant a year or so ago and made a fool out of himself. At this point, real income is none of your business and that number resides only with the Resident Apostle.  DO NOT ask if Mr. David C Pack thinks you might be one of the Two Witnesses he will train.  Give it some time.

 

"Brethren, time is short.  If you have any questions, I would welcome you in my home, office or even if you wanted, you could come to church after I check with Mr. Pack. _________________________________________________________________

____________________________________________________________________

__________________________________________________________________"

Let it go here.  Be suave and caring. Let them know you love them with all your heart and would move heaven and earth to get them attend, er....ask you anything they want and come visit you.

DO NOT tease them about giving a discount on tithing for the first few months if they will change over right now.  There is never a discount and soon you also will learn to "send it in," because you are now one of God's employees. 

 

"Please check my new website and ask any questions you might have.  I will post the ones I like and skip the ones that question my decision or want to fill me in on their own experience working for RCG.  I did say my eyes were open but did not say my ears were near as open so don't push me.

 

In Christ's Service________________________________________________

_________________________________________________________________"

Be sure to indicate you know you are the service of Christ himself and a reference to the Great God and Father can't hurt either.  Thank them for their concern and love and be sure to repeat that you love them more than they love you and that you are anxious to hear from them.

 

Depending on who you are, how famous, popular, well know and so on, you will receive a reply either really really fast,  really fast,  fast,  slower than fast, not so fast, slowly or not at all.  DO NOT CALL to inquire about your status.  That will be decided by Christ and the Resident Apostle

Help For Church of God Members Who Are Vampires

Can Armstrongism get any crazier?  Many days I think they have exhausted the craziness, and then along comes another numbnut.  Here is a  guy (Tim Carpenter) who is offering help for vampires in the church and in the world around us.  Of course like any good Armstrongite he prescribes daily supplements, vitamins and garlic capsules.  A good dose of sunlight won't hurt either.  However, the ultimate source of healing is the blood of Jesus.......

Leviticus 17:10-11:
10 And whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, that eateth any manner of blood; I will even set my face against that soul that eateth blood, and will cut him off from among his people.
11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

To learn the different kinds of real vampires please visit the Vampires Studies website (Link does not work). They are NOT affiliated with us and not necessarily meant as a help to vampires but rather as a research and study page for people to know what real vampires are. I recommend reading it with caution only after prayer and only if you think you may be a vampire. Then return here for help to recover from this satanic affliction.

For help in recovery from vampirism, read our "How to overcome anything" article.

Also, feel free to use our Pray Request page.

Also, Be sure to take daily supplements of Vitamin D at least 1000-4000 mg per day. Also take Garlic capsules or even better eat real garlic in your pasta dishes. This boosts your immune system to fight any virus that might be related to that kind/type of vampire. Sun exposure is important. Be of Gods Light, not of darkness, avoid all appearance of evil, be transformed by the renewing of your mind in Christ Jesus. Jesus is the answer for all kinds and all types of vampires. By Christ Blood YOU can be HEALED!!!

I Saw The Light Ministries

Legalistic COGers Devastated

The diehard COGers on Yahoo are devastated.  They learned today that Häagen-Dazs  ice cream is not kosher.  So what's the problem?  Is there little piggie juice in it or what?

Nope, the issue is that some legalistic rabbinical  fools have declared that Häagen-Dazs is made with milk from farmers who are not Jewish and who use cows that are not kosher.

Milk produced by non-Jews without Jewish supervision was forbidden by the sages of the Talmud due to a concern that it may be adulterated with milk from a non-kosher animal.

So all of you Christian and atheist dairymen/women out there had been stop selling your milk to Häagen-Dazs.  You are polluting ice cream with your dirty, filthy, unclean, pagan milk!

In an update sent by the rabbinate on Sunday, the kashrut department said that because Häagen-Dazs is made with unsupervised liquid milk, as opposed to milk powder, the marketing and sale of the ice cream in establishments and outlets with kashrut certification is not acceptable and constitutes “a severe infringement of kashrut procedures.”

“We request from those providing kashrut certificates not to permit the sale of this product in places with [kashrut] supervision,” the notice read. “One should not take into account the opinion of kashrut advisers in this matter who request to continue selling this product, and if the management of any chain insists on selling them it is possible that ‘kashrut [license] withdrawal’ may be enacted against them, according to the law.”

So what's a poor legalist supposed to do?  This Rabbi had this to say:

Asked what Häagen-Dazs lovers should do instead, he replied, “Love God more than ice-cream.”

Asked what Herbert Armstrong thought about it, they found out that there was Häagen-Dazs served in his home all the time.  If HWA ate it, so can I!  

Surprise! ‘Häagen-Dazs not kosher’

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Pack's Agenda For Schurter And Other Defecting Ministers

Don't I Look Like The Most Important Person On Earth Today?

Davie Pack is taking full advantage of the Dale Schurter defection from UCG.  Poor Davie has been getting so much negative publicity that he sees Schurter as the new mouthpiece to stem that flow of negativity.  Poor Davie may have jumped his guns on that one because the reaction form a LOT of people is pure shock that Schurter did what he did.  People are amazed that Schurter would join up with such a wacko as Pack. What Schurter and these other soon-to-be defectors are becoming is Pack's lap-poodles.

Davie is on a steamroll to gather in as many new members as he can. He has a multimillion dollar Auditorium and college campus to built within the next three years.  The only way his fledgling cult can do that is with more members and more income.

In his typical arrogant and self righteous mindset he gives the reason behind his new web site that features Schurter and hopefully more UCG ministers who defect.  He wants their voice to counterbalance all the negative publicity he gets.  Plus, he wants you to know that his church, The Restored Church of God, is experiencing mind boggling new growth that is unparallelled in Church of God history.  I guess two new members for a minuscule cult IS mind boggling.  Who knew!

Longtime Ministers Speak Out About The Restored Church of God and David C. Pack

About This Website

This website’s purpose is to highlight the unparalleled growth and fruits of The Restored Church of God (RCG), and to counter many years of falsehoods and misinformation regarding the Church and its leader. It will feature ongoing posts, including eyewitness accounts from a number of ministers who have left Worldwide Church of God (WCG) offshoots for RCG. Readers can look forward to information on the rapid expansion of the Church and Work, as well as its educational institution, Ambassador Center. Additional ministers who come with The Restored Church of God will also contribute. Answers to readers’ questions considered helpful to a broader audience will be posted.

Dave Pack Gloating Today That He Stole a UCG Minister

Dave Pack with his puffed up chest is even bigger today as he gloats about stealing Dale Schurter from United Church of God.

Longtime Minister Comes with RCG: We are pleased to announce that a senior minister in God’s Church, Mr. Dale Schurter, has resigned from the United Church of God (UCG) and, with his wife, Mona, come with The Restored Church of God (RCG). Mr. Schurter was first ordained in 1965 after graduating from Ambassador College in Pasadena. He served for 19 years on the faculty at Ambassador’s Big Sandy campus, and has pastored members in Texas, Louisiana, Ohio, New York and Pennsylvania.

All brethren in the splinters, regardless of affiliation, will want to visit the website often, where he and other ministers formerly in splinter groups will make exciting announcements and take you inside RCG, but also counter the years of misinformation, spin and disinformation about RCG and its leaders. He will regularly post many kinds of information, and answers to questions sent by readers.

So what exciting announcement are we all in for from Dale and the rest of the backstabbing ministers who have jumped from one church to the next over the last few decades?  Now that they have joined the largest and most important work that has ever been in existence since creation will they be thrust into new prophetic positions or will they just became Pack's lackeys in his new mini-me cult college he is building?

The Dale Schurter Propaganda/Resignation Letter

You have to checkout Dale Schurter's complete propaganda/resignation letter on Dave Pack's Restored Church of God site.  This has to be one of the biggest propaganda pieces I have ever seen by the splinter cults of Armstrongism.. It is quit obvious the RCG PR Department went into overdrive on this letter!

The Dale Schurter Resignation Letter

It is too big to post here, but here are a few excerpts:

In the early years, Mona and I had the honor to know Mr. and Mrs. Herbert W. Armstrong personally, and over the years spent many hours with them….especially with Mr. Armstrong, on numerous occasions. We learned much directly from him one-on-one about the way of God and His purpose for all of us, in addition to the many ways we all learned from God and Jesus Christ through him --- directly or indirectly. This brings responsibility, hence the length of this letter.

Now in the very last years of this age I am both burdened and moved to share a message of hope, vision and serious concern for our spiritual wellbeing --- and a way out of spiritual confusion in which the churches of God find themselves. God and Christ provide the way out, and it includes “anointing our eyes” with the oil of the Holy Spirit and “anointing our ears” with the Word of God. Everyone can read Revelation 3:17-18 --- “anoint your eyes with eye salve” --- but many fruits and teachings in the churches indicate it is not understood as it applies to each person individually.

My message is straight and to the point, and shared in sincere love for each of you.

Mona and I now know that the Truth which was lost during the buildup and final volcanic eruption of the apostasy in the late 1980s and early 1990s, following the death of Mr. Armstrong, has definitely been found and restored to God’s Church….including the all-important Government of God headed by Jesus Christ.

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The work and work atmosphere we witnessed was also seen in a four-day follow-up visit that included a great many hours of interaction with Mr. and Mrs. Pack, department heads and staff. Both visits reflected the same spirit of unity and zeal we saw during the exciting growth years of the Worldwide Church of God when it was fully “on track” under the leadership of Jesus Christ through Mr. Armstrong and his support team. (Translation: While I was still on UCG's payroll I was  conspiring on how I could leave and jump straight into another paid job while bringing UCG members along with me.)

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Think about this. When the conference of “elders-of-like-mind” convened in Indianapolis in 1995 and established the United Church of God, some among the leaders present openly commented that a government based on casting lots (balloting, voting) was, at best, a poor second choice compared to the Government of God restored by Christ in the Philadelphian Era through Mr. Armstrong. The idea was to keep our eyes open --- to watch for fruits of a work that might emerge in or from one of the “Church of God” organizations. It would reflect the Government of God at work, and have fruits similar to the WCG when it was on track and being so obviously blessed by God. THIS would be the signal for all the groups to reunite as one!

To my knowledge no committee was ever formed --- and assigned --- to be a “watchman” to look for this organization. Mona and I, as a self-appointed committee of two, have been keeping our eyes open, being frustrated with the fruits of division all around.

When we were led to the Restored Church of God, and did due diligence in our research, we confirmed to our satisfaction that the works and fruits of this organization were of God. Christ is the Head of this Church. We saw Christ at work through one He had called and appointed to finish the work --- to fulfill the prophecy of Revelation 10:11, which we should all know, “You must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.” This prophecy was on Mr. Armstrong’s mind, especially in his latter years.

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The Restored Church of God is truly about our Father’s business. I am thankful to be a part of this very end time work --- and I urge you to take a very serious look. Investigate it as we have. I heartily recommend as a starting point Mr. Pack’s book “Anoint Your Eyes” – Christ’s Warning to His People.

I must caution that you will probably experience a “blizzard” of lies and deception about Mr. Pack. Do not let this deter you. I have prepared myself for some of the same treatment. You all know me, and I have known Mr. Pack for almost 30 years. Think of how Mr. Armstrong was and still is being slandered and attacked. It could not be different with Mr. Pack --- and maybe with me!   (Translation: Brethren!  Mr. Dave Pack is NOT an egotistical liar. Mr. Pack is NOT a narcissistic cult leader! Mr. Pack is NOT lording it over his membership to fund his new college that will employ ME and probably my wife. Those are all demonic attacks by Satan to destroy the ONLY TRUE CHURCH!  But beware, they will also be coming after me for leaving the apostate and corrupt United Church of God which is NOT under God's government.  Brethren, I could go on and on about the magnificence of this end time work of Mr. Pack but will let my letter suffice. I am here today to work with you UCG brethren that are disappointed in your church to come over and join up with us, the ONLY TRUE CHURCH ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH TODAY!)

To our surprise, we also found that over the years several hundred UCG brethren, with many brethren from all the other major splinter groups, have already anointed their eyes and gone to the Restored Church of God to support the only true Work of God. They, as we, have found where all that we had in the past has been restored and is again available….including the same Government and the same gospel of the Kingdom of God.  (Translation: We will be working diligently to bring many more of you UCG members into our TRUE Church!)

Mona and I remain available to serve you and all others, spiritually or physically, just as we have continued to serve others around the world over the years. However, from now on I will be a minister of the Restored Church of God, serving in the New York City area. I will also be serving as a “pastor at large”, freely communicating with anyone in UCG or individuals in other groups who wish to contact me.

I will regularly write on an important website/blog (www.rcgtruth.com) to keep you informed and updated. This will include more of my observations and thoughts. It will also contain exciting updates about God’s work, including reports from other ministers who have joined RCG, but also many other kinds of information. There is much more to say.

Our hearts and home remain open to you as they always have. Do not hesitate to contact us in person, by phone, email, snail-mail or fax. (Translation: Please join with us in conspiring behind your Church HQ and its leadership to come over an join with us.  You should no longer be part of a lost and impotent splinter group who no longer has the where-with-all to proclaim God's TRUTH TO A LOST AND HURTING WORLD!) 

Dale Schurter's Ego Getting As Big As Pack's

In an update today on his magnificent defection from United Church of God to the ONLY TRUE CHURCH, Dale makes several boastful comments. Because he is part of the worlds largest and most important COG ministry on earth, his resignation/propaganda letter is rapidly spreading around the world.  People in 645 cities in 33 countries have read it.  Woo Hoo!  Look at me!  I am here to help you all escape from your dead and dying COG's and to help facilitate a smooth transition to God's Largest Church on earth today!

In beginning to go through, one by one, the many incoming emails, phone calls and voicemails thus far, it is quite encouraging to receive so many….so quickly. My letter has reached people in some 645 cities in 33 countries at this point. Yesterday Mona and I hosted an Open Forum all afternoon and were able to answer a large number of questions, personally….questions (and answers) which may be posted later. I was especially encouraged by one attendee who said, “I’m so glad to hear what you’ve been saying. I’m so in need of more strength and spiritual truth.” Brethren, that strength and truth can be found only in the Holy Bible, The Scriptures, and is taught in its fullness in The Restored Church of God, yes, as taught by Jesus Christ and the Apostles.

My wife and I made an important decision, and are very thankful for the exciting calling and opportunity to now be enabled to assist RCG and its Pastor General, Mr. Pack, in reaching out to people around the world who face that same choice where this is being accomplished. We must come to understand all that it means to be in the very last years of the very last era of the Church. It is soon going to come to an end, and it is time for all of us to wake up to that reality. God’s work needs to be done, and my goal is to help brethren understand the reality of the stark choices every person in the 7^th era faces…to wake up now, before the Tribulation strikes….and not wait until it is upon them. I pray all of God’s people will begin to investigate the truth now, before it is too late….and find themselves in a much worse situation.

Honey, I Shrunk The Church Vol 2: UCG

Even though UCG's attendance has dropped from an all time high of around 25,000 (according to Apostle Malm, 18,000 by others), that they have lost thousands of members and 3/4 of the ministry in numerous splinterings, they want you to know they are still the most important work in the world today.  However, with only 7,621 members left, it is up to you to foot the bill for everything!  Open those wallets and purses!  Mortgage those houses, businesses and farms!  Give it to us!

The newest United News reports that in the COE session in December Victor Kubik, Dir. of Ministerial Services gave an attendance figure of 7,621. This figure is for the US only.  When UCG first started it had about 25,000 attendees. Now after major splits (Hulme, Big Sandy and Associated Churches & COGWA) they are down to <9,000 or about 30% of where they started with. (Apostle Malm)

Alien Resistance in the Church of God

Here is a former Church of God member who is providing vital information about aliens and how to rebuke them.  So the next time those pesky aliens try abduct you for experimentation just rebuke them in the name of Jesus and you will be OK.

FACT: Based on polls, over 60% of the population believes that there is likely alien life in outer space. Around 48% of the population believes that aliens from outer space may be visiting the Earth in UFOs, and 12% claim to have seen a UFO.

 FACT: A 1991 Roper poll estimated that 4 million people in the US may have had an "alien abduction" experience (2% of the population). This does not even take into account the number of abductees worldwide, which based on the Roper poll, could be estimated to be 129 million people. This is a number of pandemic proportions.

Christian research in this field has shown that these are spiritually dangerous false beliefs, which can open a spiritual door to the occult, resulting in having dark paranormal experiences.

These experiences destroy people's lives and relationships with family and friends, and changes their worldview.

It is very important for Christians to learn about this topic and get more involved in this field of ministry.

The need is very great, as the belief that alien life is visiting humanity is steadily growing in popularity.

FACT: Alien abduction experiences can be terminated in the name of Jesus Christ.

FACT: Documented messages of "aliens" to contactees and abductees reveal an undeniably unbiblical spiritual agenda.

FACT: Modern documented reports of alien's activities and abilities parallel the abilities of (fallen) angels as seen in the Bible.

CONCLUSION: Deceptive spiritual entities are posing as modern day "aliens", bringing tormenting experiences into the lives of individuals, and offering a false gospel message, in opposition to the true message of Jesus Christ. I Saw The Light Ministries

Picture Story On How A COG Brain Works

Here's a fine example on what Armstrongism will do to your brain:

Bull standing by covered wagon and not a sin to have as it's not in a place of worship.

Same Bull but with quite a different background and is what God stated was sin.
God Himself stated that we should destroy those that are in the worship place...So!

I took a hammer and destroyed that Pagan Bull as God commanded.

Next.......

Here is a Pagan symbol and is what God stated was sin.
God Himself stated that we should destroy those that are in the worship place...So!

I took a hammer and destroyed that Pagan symbol as God commanded and if this offends you and the destruction of the bull did not then that means you do worship it!