Friday, June 28, 2013

Bob Thiel: Saudi Arabia Changes It Weekend Days So Sabbath Keepers Can Get Off Work



Bob Thiel, the non-ordained self-appointed false prophet of the Continuing Ed Church of God declares that Saudi Arabia changed it's calendar so that sabbath keepers can keep the law.  Say what????????  As if Saudi Arabia gives a rats ass about keeping changing its days so Jews and COG members can have the day off.  Bob then goes on to say this was prophesied in the Bible and is another sure sign of the end times.

In an interesting move, Saudi Arabia decided to change the weekend starting today:
In a surprising announcement on Sunday, Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah issued a royal decree shifting the nation’s weekend from Thursday and Friday to Friday and Saturday beginning this Friday, June 28.
As the Guardianreports, the world’s top oil exporter is switching its national weekend to align calendars with the other five members of the Gulf Cooperation Council. Saudi Arabia was the only member with a Thursday and Friday weekend after Oman transitioned to the regional week schedule last month…Afghanistan and Yemen are the only two countries left with a Thursday-to-Friday weekend.   http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/06/25/saudi-arabia-redefines-the-weekend/#ixzz2XQHncWSc.
This is an interesting move for many reasons, including the fact that it would make it easier for any Sabbath-keepers who may be working in Saudi Arabia to keep it.  In the days of the old Worldwide Church of God, I knew several members who were contract workers in Saudi Arabia (Muslims themselves attend mosque on Fridays, which is why that is part of the normal weekend in Islamic dominated nations).
But the other reason to mention this is that there is a biblical prophecy that another king will “intend to change times.”  Notice:
4 The ten horns are ten kings
Who shall arise from this kingdom.
And another shall rise after them;
He shall be different from the first ones,
And shall subdue three kings.
25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High,
Shall persecute the saints of the Most High,
And shall intend to change times and law.
Then the saints shall be given into his hand
For a time and times and half a time.   (Daniel 7:24-25)
The above king is the final King of the North (Daniel 11:40).

Thursday, June 27, 2013

Daniel Cohran: HWA The Second Most Important Man After Jesus To Ever Walk This Earth



Get a load of these COG crackpot.  His videos are about as dumb as the non-ordained self-appointed false prophet Bob Thiel's.  I guess having COG souvenirs on the shelf behind him ads credibility to his stupid message.

The idea that anyone in the COG thinks HWA was so spectacular that he was first in line after Jesus as the worlds most important human.  How can COG fold be this stupid?

Six Pack Flurry Tells Members To Stop Having Children Because They Are Close To End of the Age.



This was on Exit and Support today:

June 27, 2013
Gerald Flurry gave a sermon recently which instructed members not to have any more children because they are close to end of the age now. I believe that Flurry is using that as a clever tactic to swindle money from members. "End of the Age" sermon = $ --Resigned member (Trinidad)

The idea that some degenerate pig like this thinks he has the power to tell people to stop having kids because they may soon flee is appalling.  I used to half-way feel sorry for the members still stuck in his cult.  I no longer feel that way.  They know Flurry is lying pig and yet refuse to do anything about tit.  They deserve to have their money taken and to suffer the consequences when Six Pack and crew flee to Jerusalem and leave them all behind.

He's close to the end of the age but spends tens of millions of dollars on an appalling waste of money that he calls The House of God, and for apartments in Jerusalem so little Stevie and crew can have a place to hid out when the IRS investigates them.

Ambassador College Fine Arts Hall Demolition Continues


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The buildings have survived numerous large earthquakes, 
but one little tractor is tearing it all down.






























Do You Really Know David C Pack?



It is time to once again let the world hear from a former high ranking Restored Church of God minister that worked closely with Dave Pack in Wadsworth.  Michael Venish has first hand knowledge of the corruption and lies that Dave Pack says and publishes as "truth."  The public face that Dave puts on for the Wadsworth newspapers and the one he presents to the various COG splinter groups are two entirely different people.


Wednesday, June 26, 2013

Philadelphia Church of God: Online Bible Studies Need Ministers Permission If 2 Or More Gather To Watch It Together



And you had better not be a male and  female in the same room!  God knows you would soon be fornicating like rabbits as you listened to Gerald rant in the back ground.  Besides, if two or more are gathered there might be some dissenting opinion that would destroy the faith of all the others.  Questioning will not be tolerated!

Singles Bible Study
Can singles meet in one place to watch the Bible study? We love this idea! However, you must get ministerial approval beforehand. Any group of two should not consist of just one man and one woman. Also, it is still a good idea for everyone meeting together to go through the registration process and bring their own laptop or mobile device to the meeting place. This will allow everyone to comment and join the online fellowship if they want.

Security is also vitally important.  God knows you don't want any heathen pagans hearing the word of Jesus.  Oh wait, wrong church, make that Herbert Armstrong's words.

Do I need to register? Yes, as soon as possible. Because this event is restricted to PCG members and prospective members who are attending services, security is important. But having you register in advance does more than just restrict public access; it will also facilitate our plans for the online interaction and fellowship.

Philadelphia Church of God Maintaining the 50's Era for Their Women in the 21st Century



You have to hand it to the men in the PCG.  They know how to keep their wives under control.  You will not find any brawling women in the Philadelphia Church of God.  There have been countless articles in the last month about women being submissive, good homemakers and good mothers.  God forbid if any of them opened their mouths and voiced a theological understanding.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)  Proverbs 21:9
It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman in a wide house.

In the latest screed from the HWA Idolatry cult, they have this article:   The Spiritually Valiant Woman

The article focuses on women of the Hebrew scripture and Loma Armstrong.  Nothing about the strong women of the New Testament story.  Nothing about the rich women who were merchants of trade. Nothing about the women who ruled over men righteously or taught men.

There is Lydia the trader who was wealthy from fabric trade in purple cloth.  She made so much money she was "sponsoring" a local church.  Because they met in her house, it was the tradition the leader of the group was the homeowner.  She was doing such a good job at running the local church that Paul and Silas came to visit her before they left for a trip.

Lydia was the first Christian convert in Europe.  She responded to Paul’s gospel ministry when he visited her town of Philippi.[6]  Subsequently, the fledgling Christian congregation in Philippi met in her home.  Lynn Cohick (2009:190) notes that when Paul and Silas prepare to leave Philippi they went to Lydia’s house (not the jailor’s house) and met with the believers there. Presumably Lydia followed the pattern found throughout the New Testament that the owner of the house in which the church met was also the church leader.

Then there is Pheobe who was a minister (diakonos) of the church and a major patron wisely suing her money.

Tradition holds that it was Phoebe who carried Paul’s letter to the Romans.  As was the custom in those days, the letter carrier bore the authority of the one who sent him or her.  A usual part of delivering letters was explaining their contents to the recipient(s) and passing on verbal messages from the sender.[7] So Paul must have thought highly of Phoebe to entrust her with the delivery of his letter.

In Romans 16:1-2 Paul speaks warmly of Phoebe and describes her as both a diakonos and a prostatis.
I commend to you our sister Phoebe, who is a minister (diakonos) of the church which is at Cenchrea; that you receive her in the Lord in a manner worthy of the saints, and that you assist her in whatever matter she may have need of you; for she has been a leader/patron (prostatis) of many, and of myself as well. Romans 16:1-2.
 Paul only ever used the word diakonos (which literally means “servant” or “minister”) in the context of ministry.  [See endnote 8.]  Phoebe was a Christian minister in the church of Cenchreae.  Phoebe was also a prostatis. This word and its cognates mean “leader”.

Phoebe was also not a stay at home mother.  She travelled sharing the gosepl as she went.

It seems that Phoebe traveled widely for the sake of the Gospel.   In his commentary on Romans 16:1-2, Theodoret of Cyrrhus (393-460) writes, “[Paul] opened the world to her and in every land and sea she is celebrated.  For not only do the Romans and Greeks know her, but even all the barbarians.”

Phoebe was not a stay-at-home wife and mother. She was active as a minister in the church of Cenchreae and as a leader-patron in the public sphere. Paul used Phoebe as an apostolic envoy in Rome by entrusting her with his letter to the Romans.  Paul trusted Phoebe and recommended her highly to the Roman Christians. Working Women of the New Testament

None of these strong courageous women matter to the "men" at PCG.  They need their women kept down in the glory days of the 1950's and 60's when Loma was alive.  Her words and actions mean more to them than anything in the New Testament does.  It is more important train PCG women in housekeeping, cooking and child rearing than it is to be agents of God's word.

"The woman should be mentally able to do many of the things the man does, but she typically doesn’t unless he isn’t there to fulfill that role. Deborah judged a nation and led men to battle! Her song is canonized in Judges 5. Mr. Armstrong often said he always looked for a woman who could “wear the pants,” but didn’t. "
"In addition to developing other feminine traits, a female’s development of her mind must be at the top of the list. However, beware that Satan likes to use that intellect whenever women are doing “mindless” tasks—to broadcast thoughts like, My mind is too sophisticated for this. A woman must understand what it means to be feminine and why her role is what it is to truly thrive in it."
 "In 1 Samuel 1, one woman altered the course of history because of her understanding. God prohibited Hannah from bearing children until she learned the vision behind it (request our free book The God Family Vision). Once she learned this, she conceived and bore Samuel. After his birth, Hannah began to prophesy! You can find that in 1 Samuel 2:1-10.
“She probably understood God’s family plan more deeply than the most righteous women of God in the Bible,” Gerald Flurry writes in The God Family Vision."
"Hannah’s prophecy continues to be fulfilled today. David’s throne still exists, and we look toward the resurrection when we, as God’s firstfruits, will step into the role of the Bride of Christ and spiritual mother to multiple millions in the World Tomorrow. If our ladies understand the vision behind their “physical” duties and don’t let those duties become more important than their spiritual development, it will put them at a greater advantage spiritually—not hold them back.
“If you have a son, can you look into his eyes and begin to educate him about the resurrection and the God Family vision? Can you really help him see why he is alive? Can you see as Hannah saw?” Mr. Flurry asks. “Hannah was some wife. She was desperately unhappy for a while; but it was because of that unhappiness that God could teach her this deep spiritual lesson” (ibid).
That’s right! Women can—and must—learn deep, spiritual lessons! Then they must be able to educate their children about those lessons."
"Armstrong College is based on this understanding. Men and women take mostly the same courses—the only ones that differ have to do with speaking (based on the principle stated by the Apostle Paul)—and while the male students take advanced courses on speaking, the young ladies learn about homemaking and nutrition. But they all have to learn the same doctrines and memorize much of the Scriptures."

 "Mr. Armstrong always reminded us that it was his wife, Loma, who was the instrument God used to call him and start the Philadelphia era of God’s Church. Many young women on all three of the Ambassador College campuses in the 1950s and ’60s looked to her as a guidance counselor. As Mr. Armstrong wrote in the May 1967 Plain Truth, “She, herself, marveled at the wisdom that just came spontaneously from God as she counseled with these many girls about their many problems.” God inspired her with wisdom through His Spirit! Her intellect, now combined with God’s mind, was serving a tremendous function in the Work!"