Sunday, July 7, 2019

Church of God Leaders: "How is it that they can seemingly be this incompetent?"

If you were any sort of corporate manager, you would have to look at the Church of God leadership (wherever they may be) and wonder to yourself a question: "Can they truly be this incompetent?"

They refuse to change their business model, they refuse to adapt, they hang on to failures, they embrace falsehoods, they hang to decades-old business models, and don't even seem to try when it comes to promoting their "brand". How is it that they can seemingly be this incompetent? 

No one ever said that the leadership of the Churches of God (Armstrong) had Masters of Business Administration degrees. No one ever even said they were qualified to even be a manager of anything. Most of them have lived their whole lives in Armstrongism in one form or another - and many got their degrees not from business school but from Ambassador College. Truth be said, many of them have no business at all leading a Candy Shop at the corner of a small town than a religious "non-profit" organization. Yet, there they are, doing what they do. What gives? 

Most of us who read this blog know what Herbert did and how he did it to bring up his church. The conditions of his time were favorable for the rapid growth of a fear-based, prophetic-oriented, end-times religion. After just coming out of two nearly back-to-back world wars, the development of potentially world-ending nuclear weapons, and rapidly advancing industry and technology, the changing from one age to another seemed to indicate the "end of the world", not the end of an age. Herbert was successful in getting his followers to believe that the age to begin was his version of "a world tomorrow", not the current information and technological age of science we currently are experiencing. As we know, his vision of "the world tomorrow" was not accurate to what the reality was to be. 

Yet it is this exact, failed "vision" of the "world tomorrow" that current Armstrong Apologists continue to propagandize. They continue to promote the falsehoods that classic Armstrongism wrongly promoted. They seemingly forget or are blind to the fact that the version that Armstrong promoted is not only out of date, out of reality, unsound, and proven completely incorrect in nearly every angle, they "obliviously" pretend it is still present truth and still to come "just around the corner". So the question, again, looms. What gives? Do they honestly truly believe this, or is there another motivation that causes such ignorance? 

If they were to admit that Herbert Armstrong was incorrect and that the world has changed, and is a far different reality than predicted, what do you imagine would happen. If they were to admit that Herbert's theology - and the entire basis for his religion (such as British Israelism) was incorrect, the first thing that would happen is they would lose the loyal base that supports them. If they were to admit that the premise of Armstrong's theology had failed (prophetic interpretations, government, the world tomorrow, Armageddon, the 20th Century, 6000 years) was absolutely wrong, they would lose their entire support base. In other words, they would lose money and their jobs. 

What they have to do at this point in time is to first and foremost, keep their base. No one is coming to replace the aging crowd of Armstrong supporters that are left. Each of the splintered scattered groups is trying to hang on to whatever shreds of the past they have left. To do this, they have to make an illusion that they are doing a "work" using the same "gospel" and the same "methods" as Herbert did to convince the stranglers that they are still the church while hanging on to the "foundations" - namely, the Sabbath, the Holy Days, and the "name of the Church". What they have learned is that it does not take much to convince the stranglers they are doing " a work", even if they are using outdated and antiquated technologies no one listens to or cares about - radio and television, where "end time preachers" and money-hungry evangelists are not only a dime a dozen, but easily researched and debunked with an hour's time on the internet. This doesn't matter to the old-timers, because "the gospel's still being published". All that is necessary for them is to put out "token work" to satisfy the tithe-base that supports them. 

Secondly, they have to continue to assert the illusion that they are God's Authority and ministry. To do this, they continue to rattle the same tired cliches to keep the "programming" and "brainwashing" active. This is done by maintaining the "COG Culture" of threats, government, appearances, and structure". This is why they cannot change from the past. If they make any moves to change from the past, they run the very real risk of the Old Timers withholding their tithes and ultimately quitting. This means that they have to hold on to the same liturgy, formats, and structures from the past. If they change any aspect of the past, they could lose their base. If they lose their base, there is no guarantee of replacements to come. They already see what happened when the mother Church gambled and lost on the premise of dramatic change. In other words, they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. If they make changes, they lose members. If they keep the current format, no one new is coming in because it's proven false and incorrect. So what then is a COG leader today to do? 

That answer is based on the one thing that they need to keep their positions and "power" somehow intact: Money. They must hold on to their members, keep the income coming in long enough for themselves until they retire or die, make the illusion of some sort of work being done while maintaining most of the funds to continue their lifestyle. They must somehow make old, tired, worn, cliched sermons seem relevant, while somehow trying to gain new members. Unfortunately, the only member base that exists to gain from is other splinter churches from the same mold. Experiments to gain from the outside world fail spectacularly, so all there is is COG Cannibalism - eating from their own to gain whatever slight income increases that they can get. What does this mean then? 

If my theory is anywhere near correct - it means all one can truly expect is stagnation to come. As the groups slowly die off, you can expect no choice but mergers in the next decade as a means to survive. Authoritarianism will increase, and lies, threats, and deception will become more absurd and panic-based as their bases shrink. Unless Herbert Armstrong is somehow cloned in mannerism, authority, and ingenuity, the only ones that will benefit from the deceptive greed of Armstrong Splinters are the very top, while the rest simply hang on because there is nowhere else to go. 

The current crop of COG Leadership is not stupid, nor are they incompetent. They are greedy, calloused, and uncaring business executives who can't imagine any other way to maintain their income or lifestyle except off the backs of the "dumb sheep" who pay their bills and buy their cars. And as long as these supporters continue to feed them off their income, the vampire ministers will continue to suck them dry, intentionally, deliberately, and with depravity. Because it's the only way they know to live while convincing themselves their delusions are god-ordained and real. The ones who are really being harmed are those who put their trust in mortals, for in them is no help.

submitted by SHT

The Ark Encounter ll: We Should Not Have to Debate This in the 21st Century. However.....

A Debate of Biblical Proportions
 Pious Convictions based on Marginal Information
strike again...



An Skeptical View of the Ark Encounter









The Most Persecuted Church of God EVER!



Various Church of God leaders have loved to claim that they are being persecuted.  That persecution can come within from rebellious members, bitter, angry, grumpy Laodicean ex-members, and the government. Whining about things seems to be the character of these men.  Instead of following an all powerful God who stands behind their work, they whine and moan incessantly about their intense persecution. Never has the church seen a more persecuted man that Bwana Bob Thiel

God's greatest gift to the church and God's doubly blessed and most important mouthpiece is back whining once again.  Poor little thing!

Today is observed in the USA to mark its official Declaration of Independence 243 years ago.
When our older sons lived with us, for a couple of years, I read through parts of what was in the Declaration of Independence and explained how 21st century America treated its citizens worse than some of what was complained about in the Declaration of Independence.
Since then, although the economy of the USA has held up, many things have worsened.
The USA now has less freedom of speech and less freedom of religion. But instead of the government doing most the direct censoring, much of the news media and the big tech internet companies do that. And much more than would have been imagined in 1776.
The fact that the government cannot seem to define a male vs. female is also a development that would not have been imagined in 1776.
That being said, the CCOG has still been able to function with its USA office, despite us taking steps related to censorship (like not making live certain videos on Vimeo–but that we do still make live on the YouTube and Brighteon platforms). But the time will come when the ‘famine of the word’ (Amos 8:11-12) will hit.
Even in what has been called “the land of the free.”
There is only one reason these fools claim to be persecuted. By playing the martyr in the eyes of their followers they can demand more money and the dumb sheep will give it.


Saturday, July 6, 2019

Meet Your Prophetess to the Church of God!


https://youtu.be/1PDI32WMEXM?t=555
Google keeps stripping video away.

If the video doesn't work, check it out on Youtube at the 9:03 mark as the Prophetess makes an appearance for opening prayer.

 We are pleased to introduce to you the Prophetess of the Church of God.  Through her, God speaks.

She is not the High Prophetess and Second Witless Witness though, that is her mother, the looney Laura Weinland.  Can the Church of God have a family that is crazier people than this family?
They are all certified nuthouse candidates.

Please give money at the offering today as Audra needs a new BMW and a case of erasers so she can correct all of those "mistakes" in the financial books that got Big Daddy into trouble previously.

New Video: The Cult No One Seems To Remember



It is fascinating that a young person sees through Armstrongism when the adults refuse to.

I wish it were true that "no one remembers", but sadly there are still damaging splinter cults of the mother church that are far more dangerous and potentially deadly than
the Worldwide Church of God could have ever imagined.


Well done!

"There Were Two Trees in the Garden of Eden" : What Was Really Wrong With Having the Knowledge of Good and Evil Anyway?



I also felt that placing that which was off limits and would cause one's eternal death for taking from them was a taunt to do so and cheating. You know, "There's a dish of candy on the coffee table kids but don't let me ever find you taking any." 

Why not put them away and out of sight so as not to risk the inevitable?

that said...

How often I sat wishing I was somewhere else than  listening to HWA start his message with "There were two trees in the garden..."  Ugh not again!  I suspected he repeated it so often, not really because "you people don't get it" but because he was aging and sticking to familiar themes was easier. HWA was no theologian as were few if any of in the ministry. Their knowing came from merely reading the Bible and commenting on what they thought it meant or needed it to mean for the Church. I suppose I did that too in the naivete of my youth and feeling of specialness  until I grew up and decided that the knowledge of Good and Evil, while originally in the story  were God Fruit Trees and not for human consumption, would really be a good thing for humans to have. 

So a little something to consider Carl Sagan who knew a bit more than Herbert W Armstrong , Garner Ted, Dave Pack, Bob Thiel, Gerald Flurry, Gerald Weston and just about every Church of God congregant on the problem of the knowledge of good and evil being withheld from us by religious need to believe rather than to experience the discomfort of actually knowing. 

A Universe Not Made for Us?


"We have not been given the lead
in the cosmic drama"



Friday, July 5, 2019

Earthquake in LA: Let the Countdown Begin Till Our COG Prophets Claim It Is God's Punishment


Los Angeles had a pretty good earthquake this evening.  It will only be a matter of time for our COG prophetic fools start spouting off that it is God's punishment or some other asinine reason.

Bwana Bob Thiel will claim he predicted it.  Sex Therapist James Malm will claim it is because people are not zealous.  Gerald Flurry will claim it is punishment on CA because of the doctrinal changes and the selling of the Pasadena property.  Dave Pack, well, he will be Dave Pack and give 155 reasons why an earthquake hit California because 4 of the top COG leaders have not died yet.

These porphecy fools actually want to see death and destruction in order to legitimize themselves in other people eyes.

COG prophets are never ones to let a good opportunity to pass them by.
Let the fun begin!

Liars all!