Dave Pack: Prophecy Punting

 

Prophecy Punting

 

Many patterns became clear before my departure from The Restored Church of God. Not only did I recognize that David C. Pack was a naked emperor, but I likened him to Lucy of Peanuts. Forever would he hold the prophetic football with promises of a clean kick for the brethren. Forever would he snatch it away, so they fall on their backs.

That is a pattern that can never stop. Charlie Brown will never be able to kick the ball. But Dave does.

 

David C. Pack finally catches on that pushing the return of Jesus Christ (and/or the Day of the Lord) two weeks at a time is not sustainable into 2023. Instead, he punts the date two months out to finally get some Me Time.

 

The Day of the Lord is Abib 1, which begins at 7:40 pm on March 22, 2023.

 

He also teases that in Part 415, he will prove that “Elijah arises before February 10^th.” That would be another date to be on the lookout for.

 

It is a foolish act to believe anything David C. Pack says. Do not believe him if he looks out the window and tells you it is raining. He cannot be trusted with the little things. He cannot be trusted with the big things. Do not believe him even when he quotes himself.

 

Those choosing to believe the Pester General of The Restored Church of God are striving after foolishness. They are not accidentally slipping on a banana peel but willfully setting aside their Bibles and intelligence to believe the lies. They are purposefully joining him on a path of inevitable failure and agreeing to disappointment as an acceptable outcome.

 

Further disappointment shall surely come. Though it hesitates, wait for it.

 

 

“The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 414)” was given on January 14, 2023, during the Winter Social Weekend. The Day of the Lord was supposed to begin at sunset on Friday night. Setting travel plans in motion before that was an overt act of defiance and a vote of no-confidence in the Tevet 21 proclamation. 

 

The fact that the Winter Social Weekend exists proves nobody inside The Restored Church of God takes David C. Pack seriously.

 

If Headquarters brags about the attendance numbers, count them toward the growing percentage of members who do not buy Dave's malarkey. And yet, those same folks choose to stay despite the ever-increasing proofs and metrics revealing their human idol is a false teacher.

 

Part 414 – January 14, 2023

@ 00:25 We’ve seen God slowly draw us forward. He’s constantly laying out more track…I know that many are sitting back enjoying learning what God intends to do…

 

The people enjoying this are the ones YOU should stay clear from. And I mean the YOU-folks still inside RCG reading this. Those enjoying the ride would not be on a website like this. That leaves the thinking people who know things are seriously wrong but do not know what to do. I know how that feels because I have been there. So have Jessica, Elizabeth, John, Richard, and many others.

 

Do you want to worship a god who plays 52 Pickup with you? Or blinds his apostle? Or one that keeps laying out more track?

 

@ 00:46 …but kind of if I can put it this way, “Waiting for Mr. Pack to figure out timing.” I know you're thinking that brethren, partly because that's exactly how I feel. Well, I’m waiting for Mr. Pack to figure out timing.

 

So much for inspired preaching. So much for God leading His servant into knowledge and truth. If you are in RCG waiting for “Mr. Pack to figure out timing,” then expect to wait until never.

 

 

The 60-point list that was so important last time has already waxed dull in Dave’s eyes.

 

@ 01:19 Our pursuit recently has been to figure out which metrics are true. 60-point list. Which must be discarded and which are still, we’ll say, foggy.

 

But it was hugely important in Part 413.

 

Part 413 – January 4, 2023

@ 17:03 I promise you, nobody has ever written down the list I'm about to fire at you like bullets out of a machine gun. But, I'm just gonna tell you, no one was ever led to do it.

 

There is a good reason for that.

 

Part 413 – January 4, 2023

@ 17:54 We’re just gonna see if we have run into a way that they all have come to harmony. But you won't appreciate it if you don't hear what we've been battling tooth and nail.

 

It has already lost the harmony solidified ten days ago, making the time and effort to come up with it and teach it worthless. Not entirely worthless, just somewhat mildly worthless.

 

 

In the mood for more medical-grade gaslighting?

Part 414 – January 14, 2023

@ 08:10 …and I probably should’ve started again as I often do. We’re still on time. Believe me, more than you could ever know. Everything’s still fine. Absolutely. Absolutely. More than I could have ever believed God could tell us in this most-exciting sermon conclusion. I can’t get it all said today, but I’ll get it all said very quickly.

 

The denial is astounding. He makes this statement on the very day of his latest failure. January 14 is Tevet 21, the beginning of the Day of the Lord. Per ten days ago. People sitting in the audience were expecting to receive salvation but, instead, get to hear Dave tell them how "still fine" it all is.

 

He is counting on people to be stupid and gullible. He is relying on blind faith to keep the warm bodies in the chairs. He is depending on brethren turning off their brains to accept his insult as an expression of comfort.

 

As an aside, Dave needs to look up the word "conclusion" since he informs them more is coming on another day. That means this is NOT a conclusion. Oh, man. He cannot even get the littlest things correct.

 

David C. Pack is not a man of his word. He should not be believed even if he tells you what he had for breakfast. Somehow, it will be factually inaccurate.

 

 

Dave finally gets closer to the point of Part 414.

 

But while trying to do so, he repeatedly does that annoying parenthetical interruption to his own prepared statement. It is one of those things that once you see, you can never unsee. Just like I can never unsee the "arrogant sniff tick" he does that a former Headquarters person clued me in on. Yeah, you will now catch those in the video clips, too.

 

@ 48:24 Is there a chance that after all this time, the Bible directly tells us, if I could be dramatic, the Bible sort of looks us straight in the eye and directly tells us by naming the Day of the Lord? Exactly what day it comes.

 

It was one sentence. One simple sentence and Dave could not spit it out.

 

@ 48:48 Is it possible that we missed something? We can literally sit here this afternoon and know what this day is we’re talking about.

 

We is up to their old shenanigans of missing stuff and getting stuff wrong. What a disappointment We is.

 

@ 49:04 I’m gonna tell you something I did.

 

I doodied in the toilet, brethren, not in my pants.

 

@ 49:07 I will often get the ministers and tell them things I’m learning. But what I found was so plain. So shockingly clear and indisputable that I told five ministers…"I want you to read the following two verses, and you come back and tell me which day is the Day of the Lord."

 

@ 49:39 All five of them said, “It was a no-brainer. It was just that simple.” So, I'm gonna remove the mystery about the Day of the Lord, and I'm gonna tell you exactly when it is…

 

::cough:: Abib 1 ::cough::

 

Sorry, I forgot to put "Spoiler Alert."

 

@ 50:56 We’re only layering in the foundation today…and you [will] know exactly what day is the Day of the Lord and that it’s inarguable, it will give you a warm and peaceful and wonderful feeling…

 

That sounds way better than being haunted by God’s Spirit or having chest pains. But if history is our guide, those uncomfortable feelings will return as any date he sets closes in. The warm fuzzies will be replaced by the cold sting of disappointment when brethren again realize Dave has no idea what he is talking about.

 

I wonder if this is more “inarguable” than Tevet 21 was. Me thinks Dave needs to look up that word, too.

 

 

As it turns out, Ezekiel 45:18 was the hidden key he was looking for. Seems as though the ruse by Dave’s god had a purpose after all.

@ 1:07:49 So then, what did the Bible just directly tell you is the Day of the Lord? Abib [Nisan] 1. It’s impossible to argue with that.

 

@ 1:08:26 The altar was cleansed before God forever, starting on an Abib 1. If I may just say, 67 days away. All right, let that catch your breath, and then wait for the rest of the story.

 

Whose breath could possibly be taken away that Jesus Christ is going to return in 67 days…when as of last week, He was going to return the day they heard these words? People are sitting IN THE ROOM that were not supposed to be there because the Day of the Lord was to be ON THE DAY in which they are seated.

 

They were excited one day ago, but now they should be excited for 67 days from now? That is utter insanity. Talk about some next-level foolishness. Foolishness to say it and foolishness to buy it.

 

The folks who need to catch their breath are not the ones YOU should be talking to. Yes, YOU-folks still in RCG.

 

@ 1:10:24 So, Abib 1 is March 22. One day, by the way, after winter is over. Meaning flight would be in winter…So, God is gonna start years almost dead-on within a day of spring? Well, if He does it this year, He would. Next year, it’s different.

 

For the past seven months, we have all heard how the math and metrics do not line up for 2023. Now in January, we are hearing how the metrics will not line up for 2024.

 

Lucy is already positioning the football again.

 

 

The old “why-would-God-show-it-now” timing proof rears its ugly head again.

 

@ 1:25:10 Why would God show us Abib 1 in a definitive way? Absolutely inarguable.

 

I wonder if Dave remembers all these other absolute inarguables from the past.

 

Part 10 – January 9, 2016

@ 1:50:24 Try to imagine: we could not be told or shown too early about the First Dominion, or we would have read Revelation 22 before it was true...God, quite literally, could not tell us, or He would make Himself a liar. And He would have confused us and misled us, believing we were on a short clock when we were not.

 

Part 211 – October 24, 2019

@ 10:19 Until God revealed this great story of one day, no man would have any chance to get straight what happens first. And He saved it for the end to fulfill a prophecy and so that his servant could, in effect, obey a command.

 

Part 234 – February 12, 2020

@ 2:49:18 Why would God set us up with what is such a powerful case for what is not His timing?

 

Part 297 – March 17, 2021

@ 1:19:10 Why would God reveal all of this to us now and then make us wait a year for bad math?

 

Part 386 – August 22, 2022

@ 1:39:35 It’s possible that revealing it to me now is God sort of saying, “You get this after all these years…I’m revealing it to you.” So and maybe I’m supposed to realize it’s the beginning of being this prophet.

 

Oh, Dave. The lunacy is at least consistent enough to document.

 

 

Abib 1 was not the only date of note in Part 414. When you count 80 days from January 1, you get to March 22. There is a 40-day period cut in half. The halfway point is February 10. Boom.

 

That is the secret to "in the midst of the years," which is halfway between January 1 and Abib 1.

 

We are back to counting 40 days again. Surprise.

 

@ 1:28:49 I mean, it’s just basic math. It’s inarguable stuff here, brethren. That’s why I drove home Abib 1. And we had to figure out, “What do you mean ‘midst of the years?’” Boy, did we battle that one. Turns out, it really is dead-on.

 

So, he did NOT overread “midst” ten days ago?

 

Part 413 – January 4, 2023

@ 50:44 It’s [midst] just a general term…here’s where we might feel a little silly. But fun.

 

Walking back teachings from the previous Part must always be a little silly and fun, considering how often Dave likes to do that.

 

Part 414 – January 14, 2023

@ 1:29:19 Christ comes on a Sabbath. It just so happens; I'm sure this is a coincidence, right?...It just so happens that exactly 40 days before a Wednesday night Day of the Lord is a Sabbath.

 

@ 1:32:11 …did something happen before what would be February 10^th, okay? February 10^th. That's the middle of New Year's to March 22^nd…

 

Dave still butchers the meaning of Habakkuk 2:2, which is one of many root problems as to why he fails continually. He fully activates Chicken Little mode because people in the future choose not to pay attention to his ravings.

 

@ 1:34:37 …before Christ comes, somebody is told, Make the vision, the whole forty days, make it plain on tables...and people blew it off. And it caused a lot of trouble on the planet…Which would explain why people are told, the sweet sheep of God in this room, would be told starting now, Don’t fear anything because there's gonna be plenty to fear between now and February 10^th.

 

It should now be well-documented on the public stage why everyone should blow off David C. Pack.

 

FYI, he also meant more fear than just from a chicken egg shortage. He did not elaborate, but that was the impression.

@ 1:39:30 These dates are set, and I will say before God they can only change if the Bible can change. You cannot argue with “midst of the years.” You cannot argue with the Day of the Lord. And you cannot argue with the sheer massive proof I’m gonna lay on you next time that Elijah rises before February 10^th. Enjoy your evening.

 

If things go wrong, the Bible is at fault. That is a well-planned fallback position.

 

Part 415 will be pure gold dipped in honey. The anticipation must be intense, but YOU should not lose any sleep waiting for it.

 

February 10 will come as surely as…well, no. Nothing biblical will happen on February 10, but faithful brethren seem determined to kick the football even though Lucy snatches it away time and time again. Good grief, Charlie Brown.

 

Just because Dave punted the prophetic timing two months down the field does not mean anyone has to keep running after it.

Marc Cebrian

See: Prophecy Punting

Why can't COG's ever find "The Simplicity in Christ"?

 

When it comes to a Church of God, nothing is ever simple. Simple basic doctrines that have been foundational to Christianity for millennia do not apply to COG's. The church has to create its own language and speak in coded words to the point no one really knows what any of them really think or believe.

When the mother church attempted to do the Systematic Theology Project (STP) it was the first time that the official COG teachings were gathered in one book. Even though all of the papers crossed Herbert Armstrong's desk and he gave final approval, the crap soon hit the fan when uber-conservative ministers complained that it was too liberal for them. Part of that problem is that they now had official teachings restricting their own interpretations and that was offensive. It was soon required that all ministers send in their copies to Pasadena to be shredded.

Thanks to all of that mess, no COG today has a definitive belief statement that combines the teachings and doctrines of the church in one single volume that ministers and lay members can refer to. Instead, various governing bodies in the COG's create their own documents filled with dualistic words, off-the-wall definitions, and oftentimes contradictory statements that do not match current teachings.

This brings me to the United Church of God's latest little blurb from the January 10 Council of Elders report. 

They believe that their message is so powerful that they're presenting "truth" with love. 

They are reinterpreting Ephesians, again, because it has to fit their definition of grace and law. 

And, then there is the "metron of Christ". Most members and apparently most ministers have no idea what this even means. It is already apparent even their own council can't agree on things. I am sure the definition of "metron" will be something entirely different than what traditional Christianity believes. We know that this is most likely the case because the COG's think they are more educated and enlightened than regular "worldly" Christians.

Mr. Miller continued by presenting a digital version of the document to demonstrate what was changed in the “Truth in Love” section. At the conclusion of Mr. Miller’s presentation, Darris McNeely, Brian Shaw and Dan Dowd took turns discussing the changes and updates made to the remaining sections.

Mr. McNeely covered the updates and changes that were made to the “Ephesians Framework” section of the proposed 2023-2024 Strategic Plan.

Mr. Shaw then lead a discussion on the “Strategic Directives” section, explaining there was no change in content, just in font size and ease of reading.

Mr. Dowd then discussed the changes to the “Mapping the Way with the Metron of Christ” section. He discussed the reasons behind the major changes, the removing of the numbers from the graph, the simplifying of the font, and the added appendixes in the back for further explanation. He also explained why the term Metron is used to title this section and its use throughout the document.

Commercial Break: Dedicated to "Apostle", but is not and found wanting, David C Pack

 

Dual-minded Prophet Releases Another Dream to Prove His Legtimacy

 

The dual-minded self-appointed Great Bwana to Africa released another dream today that he believes PROVES he is the one true legitimate leader of the COG movement.

Have you ever noticed that none of Bob's dreams or the dreams of a few of his crazy followers are ever focused upon Jesus? Instead, they are all focused on Bob, the greatest narcissist the Church of God has ever had. The focus is always entirely upon himself, never Jesus, but himself.

Christians since the first century understood their focus is to be upon Christ, not hundreds and hundreds of useless topics that are used by Bob to distract members away from their true focus. This constant barrage of doom and gloom and conspiracy theories quickly takes its toll on his followers and any who listens to him.

With Bob, the focus is always on himself or worldly things and never on Christ. When you listen to him you can quickly become overwhelmed with doubt due to all the fear he keeps his followers constantly living in. 

Here is the latest dream that is so over the top it's ridiculous:

01/14/23 a.m. Received the following in two emails from James Martenet related to dreams:

About month after FoT 2020 ... would be the first ... I was in a field of wheat that stretched to all horizons. It was a sunny day during harvest, and the wheat was golden, beautifully golden. There was a master of the harvest on a wagon, and there were reapers, the man on the wagon had a very black beard, was fit and had perfect teeth, and smiled broadly.

The reapers were also similar to him, and they all sang a song in the dream I understood, it was so beautiful. The reapers and the master of the harvest seemed superhuman, they were perfect of form. There were other normal folks, many whom I  recognize from CCOG, and all of us had bags to carry the wheat the reapers were cutting, to the wagon. Some had large bags, others small, and some had holes in their bags. Some had bags that were empty, and they were not helping, just being busybodies, getting in the way of the ones who were working, but they could not stop the workers who were working from accomplishing the work of carrying the bags, even if they tried to…those working just kept right on being productive.

Bob Thiel had a tremendous load, it was ridiculous in size, so large that I wondered, how could he really get anything done with that tremendous load. But he was. Meanwhile some others also had large burdens, Shirley Gestro was one of them. The Master of the harvest asked why are not all the workers working? Why do some have empty bags? And he kept reminding us of the time.

He was asking me. I said I do not know what they are doing. He asked why are not more helping ... Bob Thiel..., then directly, why am I not helping more? I had a bag with a hole in it,  I asked what can I do, and he told me to use my talents, and to get to work, while there is still daylight. Then my bag was fixed and full, and it kept getting fuller as those of us who had full bags placed them on the wagon, where the master of the harvest smiled at us and said “good job”. The Sun was in the afternoon, it was before sunset, but it was definably setting. The Man said, “work while you still can”, and I woke up. ...

The last time {I had the harvest dream} was in the spring of this year {2022}. Each of the dreams was slightly different: the sun was moving closer to sunset. In the last one the sun had moved closer to sunset, and in ... them {both} there was a sense of urgency.

Basically, James Martenet took that repeated dream to mean that he should support what God is doing in the CCOG. He has been assisting in video and radio spots since 2022. And yes, we are getting closer to the end.

Jesus said:

2 The harvest truly is great, but the laborers are few; therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest. (Luke 10:2)

Do your part to support the work and also pray for more laborers for the harvest.

If Bob really was a true minister of God he would stop talking about himself and how magnificent his work is and focus entirely on following Christ. The problem is he cannot. It has always been about himself from the very first day when he started his rebellion. Even Rod Meredith understand that when he said the following about Bob:

"I have seen that you have had great difficulty in learning the lessons of deep humility that God wants all of us to learn. With very few exceptions, nearly everyone who knows you has clearly seen that—although you have a quick mind and great energy—you have nearly always thought very highly of yourself and of your own opinions. You have offended or at least “bugged” dozens of Church members with this very self-important, pushy and “know-it-all” attitude and approach."

"Bob, your own remarkable vanity and “dreams of greatness” have greatly affected your ability to think clearly many times. Over the last few years, many of us have noted that you have begun to think of yourself in terms that are not realistic."

"...others express concern about your egotistical ideas that you believe you are a prophet or one of the two witnesses." 

 

"Then you go to January 2009 where you say I told you that if I was raised to the office of apostle, I was “considering ordaining Bob Thiel as a prophet.” That, Bob, is simply not true! For I have never, at any time—considered ordaining you as a prophet. This is not because I don’t “like” you, but rather because I have understood for years your tendency to bring in “odd” or “Catholic prophesies” or put unusual twists on scripture in such a way that no true prophet of God would ever do." 

 

"Mr. Apartian did not think of you as a prophet. You can easily ascertain that by talking to Mrs. Apartian, Mr. Ames, Dr. Winnail and all of us. Bob, since you have this powerful feeling of “greatness” you often “read into” what anyone says. This kind of idea of you being a prophet that is pounding away in the back of your mind is once again causing you to twist your own memory of what is said by others." 

 

"Mr. Bonjour has confirmed he in no way was intending to ask God to make you a prophet! Yet, because of your vivid imagination and fervent desire to exalt yourself to that role, you “took it” that way—as you do so with many other things."

"By “reading into” things that others tell you the idea that you might be a prophet, you have deceived yourself—willingly of course—so that your mind is now virtually “fixated” on the idea that you, are a “prophet” of God."  Exceprts from "Rod Meredith's Letter To The Ministry Denouncing Bob Thiel" December 28th, 2012

 

PCG Hiding Gerald Flurry's Heath Issues From Members…He Can No Longer Stand

 

King Gerald Flurry is going to have a hard time anointing Jesus Christ when He returns to Petra to sit upon Gerry's coronation stone so He can be anointed King of Kings when Gerry can't stand to anoint him.

Why is it that the church is filled with so many raving lunatics as it is in 2023? Dave Pack, Bob Thiel, Ron Weinland, and Gerald Flurry. Can the church get any crazier?

Exit and Support Network states:

Gerald Flurry’s Bad Health Is Being Hid From Members:

January 11, 2023 

 

The PCG inner circle know how bad Gerald Flurry’s health is, but are hiding it from the “church.”
His recent falls and inability to stand, or even give messages, are what some are saying may be the result of a suspected stroke. There have been other health incidents which have been occurring during the second part of 2022 that paint a bad picture. He also is no longer flying on the PCG’s private plane–a massive expense supposedly to allow Flurry to reach the world (even though the jet has been used for the kids to attend their dancing competitions). 

 

Flurry’s real health problems being known will be a huge upset as he has built himself up as “king over kings,” destined to personally anoint Christ with the HWA stone at the “place of safety.” (Yeah, it’s as crazy as it sounds). 

 

The whole thrust of the HWA stone, king of kings, royal lineage, failed Trump prophecy, is causing the PCG to crumble. Hiding the truth of his health is treating members like mushrooms. –[name withheld]

Oh No! I've Done It Again!!!! Little Double-Minded Self-Appointed False Prophet Melts Down Over Banned

 

Well, I have done it again. I have somehow gone and got our highly favored Great Bwana to Africa all hot and bothered. The daggers of self-righteous indignation are flashing from that little brick storefront in Grover Beach right now.

I find it fascinating how the little guy which believes he is God's most important Church of God leader in the history of the church, so important that he was part of the divine plan of the ages crafted before creation itself to rise up in these perilous end times to lead the one true remnant church which preaches the pure undiluted truth of God, can be so easily pissed off. Yet, here we are. Again.

This time I am a tool of Satan being used to deliberately keep people out of the Kingdom of God. But, it's not just me, it is many of you rebellious Laodiceans that DARE to mock him and make fun of his self-created myths he pawns off as truths. We are such a rebellious lot that we are "the accusers of the brethren".

Some of Satan’s allies at Banned by HWA website continue to post lies about those of us in Continuing Church of God (CCOG) as well as other COGs. 

 

That is consistent with Satan’s hope as he is called the “accuser of the brethren” which he does do day and night (Revelation 12:10), so it is no great surprise if his lying human assistants spread lies regularly.

Beto Bob believes that Satan is using us to keep people away from the one true church he believes he is running. His is the true Christian faith!

If you are not part of a COG (Church of God), Satan hopes you will dismiss the true Christian faith as a false cult–this is something he and his followers have done throughout history.

So sure of his self-appointment and self-ordination as a COG leader and prophet, he says that scripture itself tells how COG members and former members will denounce him: 

Jesus, Himself, said that people who claimed to believe the Bible often denounced God’s prophets:

11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. (Matthew 5:11-12)

The problem right off the bat here is that Bob Thiel is NOT a prophet of God. That is abundantly clear to all here. We know he is no more prophet than Dave Pack or Gerald Flurry are. In fact, Beto Bob is EXACTLY like Pack and Flurry.

Beto is particularly perturbed by this:

Notice the following evil that was posted at Banned by HWA:

Bob Thiel has lied to us from day one about God speaking to him in dreams, that he is the only COG doing the work, that he is a prophet, that he is Elisha, Elijah, Zephaniah, Joshua, and many other appropriated personalities (about the only thing left to call himself is Legion). Has Bob ever apologized and will he EVER apologize for lying to us? 

 

Now the above is false witness from Gary Leonard (the webmaster of the above site and the one who posted that).

Everything about Bwana Bob, from his rejection by the Living Church of God to his own self-appointment, has been one falsehood after another. Even Rod Meredith realized towards the end that Bob was mentally unfit to lead any church and that's why he publicly rebuked him from the pulpit, ending any chance that Bob could draw LCG members into his little group. After Meredith's very public rebuke, all the other COG's turned their back on him too. Every Church of God Bob Thiel was in refused  to ordain him, But, it's all my fault,  and you demon-possessed followers here that listen to me and also join in the ridicule:

Satan hopes you will believe lies.

One of the Ten Commandments is, “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor” (Exodus 20:16).

Yet repeatedly, Gary Leonard has borne false witness.

There is no point in me, Bob Thiel, apologizing for telling the truth.

All of you agents of Satan here that believe me need to REPENT!  NOW!

Gary Leonard and those who believe his lies need to repent.

Bwana Bob then has to start in on his greatest myth ever, the Gaylyn Bonjour blessings. Beto Bob sees these prayers by Bonjour as a sure sign from God that he needed to split off from LCG and form his own church. Bonjour never had any such intention in mind, but Beto says he did.

The truth is on December 15, 2011, LCG minister Gaylyn Bonjour, while laying hands on me, was moved by the Holy Spirit to pray that God would grant me a “double portion” of His Spirit, which Gaylyn Bonjour said was reminiscent of the passing of the mantle from Elijah to Elisha as recorded in 2 Kings 2:9-13. He has always publicly concurred with me that is what happened.

Beto Bob then says this:

Satan hopes that YOU will be lazy and not believe. Satan hopes YOU will not take the time to check out the truth on this. Satan does NOT want YOU to accept that God really has been providing and fulfilling dreams in the 21st century.

A better translation this should read:

Satan hopes that YOU will be lazy and not recognize that Bob Thiel is a liar and a false prophet. YOU will not take the time to check out the truth on this and instead swallow his lies. Satan does NOT want YOU to accept that God has no need of self-appointed little prophets like Bob blaspheming Christ and ignoring all that he accomplished.

Beto Bob then accuses those who read here of this:

Satan wants YOU to think that there are no serious differences between the legitimate COGs so not being part of CCOG is fine. 

 

Satan wants YOU, like most Christians these days, to be Laodicean and not see if these things are so?  

 

Why? 

 

Because he knows Jesus said for unrepentant Laodicean Christians, “I will vomit you out of My mouth. Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing” (Revelation 3:16-17).

Bob claims unrepentant Laodiceans who can't tell the difference between the COG groups and Bwana Bob's highly chosen group are deceived by Satan. Bob's problem lies in the fact that we can tell the difference. We have, Bob. We have! And, you have been left by the wayside. Irrelevant. Insignificant.

Beto then launches into his second favorite mythical fantasy, his dream, and the dreams of others. 

The bulk of end time Christians do not truly believe that the New Testament shows that in the end of the last days God will provide dreams to His most faithful. God proceeded the start of the Philadelphia era with a dream to a woman and the start of the CCOG with a dream to a woman.

None of Beto's dreams ever involved Christ at any time, just a bunch of crazy followers hyped up with make-believe hysteria as they try and legitimize Beto's power grab. Big bad meanie Satan wants all of you to discount Beto Bob's dreams. When you do so you become UNSTABLE!

Satan does not want you to take inspired confirmed dreams seriously. He wants you opposed, or at best lukewarm, to that biblical idea. Satan wants you to have enough doubts about God and His promises so that you will be “a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways” (James 1:8).

Beto continues:

Those who believe the false assertions at the Banned by HWA website are among those that love and practices lies. 

 

Those who do so should repent. 

 

Jesus taught:

44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. (Matthew 5:44-45) 

 

Gary Leonard remains in my prayers.

Well, thanks Beto! Never will I turn down prayers! 

The Great Bwana ends his temper tantrum with this:

If you are not part of CCOG, Satan wants you to stay away from it. 

 

He does not want you to be dedicated or noble enough to see if what is written here (and in the related links) is really true. 

 

Can you accept the truth or do you prefer the lying assertions from sites like Banned by HWA?

If you are NOT part of the improperly named "continuing" Church of "god" then God wants you to STAY AWAY! If you're a member, then God wants you to LEAVE! Your salvation depends upon it! Do not accept the lies and distortions of Bwana Bob Thiel nor give credence to his dreams.

  

 

 

 

Dave Pack: Great Tribulation Begins this Evening!

 

Tick-Tock Tevet

 

Today is Friday the 13th, and that is scary business here in Wadsworth, but not due to superstition.

 

The next inevitable prophetic disaster for David C. Pack of The Restored Church God is only hours away.

 

Part 413 – January 4, 2023

@ 1:01:32 …the 21^st of this month [Tevet – January 14]…the 21^st begins the Great Tribulation.

 

Tevet 21 begins at 5:21 PM EDT tonight and ends at 5:22 PM tomorrow. The entire RCG membership will partake in the latest embarrassment for twenty-four hours and one minute.

 

Tick-tock. Tick-tock. Tick-tock.

 

The Three Shepherds of Zechariah 11 did not die last weekend. What should that mean?

 

@ 1:17:08 If these guys die in the next three days, we’ve removed all doubt. And God would know this, and I can't tell because it's so cryptic. If they die in the next three days, nobody will doubt that Christ is coming.

 

Brethren in RCG are swimming in doubt. And with good reason. They recently learned Dave’s god has been playing practical jokes on him and the entire church—Major doubts.

 

Their Pestor General has not shown his face since January 4—Bookoo doubts.

 

Combine this with the Pathetic Update from last Friday—Mega-Uber doubts.

 

 

Prophecy Update – Friday, January 6, 2023

Brethren, the process of learning STILL continues! The reason we pointed you toward tonight is that numerous verses definitively lined up for a Sabbath. Some likely come to mind. That said, it is almost certainly not this Sabbath. The many timing elements explained in Pt 413 remain strong, and in some cases grew stronger! Mr. Pack may lay these out in a brief Pt 414 next Tuesday before the Sabbath.

 

 

“the process of learning STILL continues!”

 

That is a nothing statement. Even Jesus Christ learned by His experience in the flesh. Their intent was to imply knowledge but not provide it. The whole paragraph is an Imply Party.

 

“it is almost certainly not this Sabbath”

 

Ha ha. No kidding.

 

Headquarters got in front of the failure. Again. A failure they knew was coming. How did they know? The same way everyone else should. David C. Pack is not being led by God to end the Mystery of God by giving “The Greatest Unending Story!” He is a false apostle and false prophet from whom the brethren should flee.

 

“many timing elements…remain strong, and in some cases grew stronger”

 

What remains strong and grew stronger is a false belief based on fantasy. One week later, those timing elements evaporated, revealing they were never there in the first place.

 

What remains strong and grew stronger is the doubt that the Packian Triad of Fraud know what they are doing. The Coffee Kid and Pepper Boy rush their little hearts out to make the puzzle pieces fit with scissors and glue. Puppet Master Dave tugs the strings, and they gleefully hop and bop at will.

 

What remains strong and grew stronger is the denial the Headquarters enablers exert upon themselves as they sit at their desks doing busy work keeping the duplicity machine afloat. They tell themselves they are “patiently waiting for Christ” while “doing The Work,” but their conscience tells them otherwise.

 

What remains strong and grew stronger is the brethren’s confusion and turmoil. They know things are not “well” inside RCG. They know things are not “well” in their congregations. But they do not know what to do despite the obvious answer being to flee.

 

“Mr. Pack may lay this out…next Tuesday”

 

Yeah. That didn’t happen.

 

No-Show Dave must have been too busy wandering the halls playing 52 Pickup with anyone passing by.

 

What another humiliation for Church Administration. All the wincing, eye-rolling, head-shaking, and forehead-slapping on the second floor make the office look like a live-action anime festival.

 

Someone was calculated enough to insert the one-word escape hatch.

 

“may”

 

This is the most-used safe word in all of The Restored Church of God.

 

We MAY have more time. We MAY have more proofs. We MAY have more math.

 

But the reality is Jesus Christ WILL NOT return on Tevet 21, and David C. Pack WILL NOT be right…ever.

 

 

The scheming of Part 414 is already underway as the clock tick-tocks towards Tevet 21 tonight. This will be David C. Pack’s 38th prophetic date blunder since June last year, making it an official RCG church tradition. I plan on having a cake made for the 50th.

 

Part 413 – January 4, 2023

@ 1:25:09 …a nuclear blast wouldn’t change me…from the simple fact that it's ten days, seven years, a thousand years, and winter. You can't change that.

 

Anticipate him changing that. The ten days will move as they have before because he needs them to shift to keep the crazy train rolling "on track."

 

Time is the mortal enemy of David C. Pack. Time is the mocker and scoffer. Time proves him to be a biblical sorcerer. Time is the murderer of his words.

 

Tick-tock. Tick-tock. Tick-tock.

 

For those inside The Restored Church of God who are confused and do not know what to do, reread “There Came a Falling Away” and “Is ‘That Prophet’ Alive Today?” Listen to the three-part “30 Reasons to Follow the Truth” available in the Member Services Sermon Library.

 

David C. Pack then explains who and what David C. Pack is now.

 

Marc Cebrian

See: Tick-Tock Tevet