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It is close to Halloween and the COG's are churning or should I say, regurgitating, out their annual paganism articles. In their eyes Christan are one step away from sacrificing the children on the altar of Satan. Oh wait, according to LCG some parents are already doing that!
Pithy sayings of Richard Ames of the Living Church of God:
Should we follow our neighbors, like proverbial lemmings, off the dangerous cliff of pagan practices?
By observing Halloween, we teach our children to make light of Satan
the Devil—or even to think like him! Should we then be surprised when
our children remain curious about evil—or even invite it—for the rest
of the year?
Do we teach our children to attract and cultivate evil spirits at Halloween? Certainly, dressing up like a demon or a witch invites evil rather than opposes it!
Some parents encourage their children to participate in the world of
demons. Are some of you parents sacrificing your children to Satan and
to wicked spirits
It’s time for such so-called Christians to repent of supporting the Devil and rebelling against Christ!
False prophet Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel, an apostate LCG member, loved to say this:
Jesus and Paul did not observe Halloween.
Perhaps Richard Ames should ask himself why the LCG has followed the teachings of Herbert Armstrong like proverbial lemmings? With it's hundreds of failed prophecies, proven false doctrines, and extra non-biblical laws, why does he continue to keep it all and force it upon others?
Its that time of year again and various Church of God groups are starting their annual Halloween traditions. Satan and his demons are pictured running rampant around the earth on this night looking for naive COG members so they can be swayed away from the "truth once delivered." Church of God members turn off their living rooms lights and slink back into the rear of their houses and try to hide from the evil knocking at their doors. It's amazing how a church that claims to be God's one true restored church have allowed Satan to have so much power over them. No other church on the earth has to deal with the constant attacks by Satan than the COG. Satan is obviously more powerful than that inconvenient Jesus dude. The following quotes were from a Conservative COG Yahoo page several years ago. These are the kinds of silliness that occupy the minds of Armstrongites this time of year.
No one ever said Armstrongites were not creative in their thinking! Eating mice for Halloween? I feel so left out all these years! A different spin on it where the kids go trick or treating? -------- The church has never stated that. In the histories, when Jeroboam (I think) set up a golden calf in the north in Israel, it's been said that was at Halloween time. In any case, it was a different time than FoT, which it was made to replace. -------- I've also heard that this particular holiday was moved from May 1 and that originally it was a remembrance of the dead when Noah & family came out of the Ark. Imagine how they must have felt, knowing every other living soul was dead... This is how dead became associated with the day. Perhaps.
Is Isaiah a reference to the ancient pagan festival now called halloween with a
Isaiah 66:17 Those who sanctify and purify themselves to enter the groves, imitating one in the center, eating the flesh of the swine, the reptile, and the mouse, shall one and all come to an end - declares the Lord. For I know their deeds and purposes.
We actually have COG members who believe kids eating candy are practicing an ancient custom of worshipping in the groves and that it originally was the day set apart by Noah to commemorate all the dead rotting bodies that covered the earth after the flood. Here are some pithy says by Richard Ames of the Living Church of God:
Pithy sayings of Richard Ames, Living Church of God
Should we follow our neighbors, like proverbial lemmings, off the dangerous cliff of pagan practices? By observing Halloween, we teach our children to make light of Satan the Devil—or even to think like him! Should we then be surprised when our children remain curious about evil—or even invite it—for the rest of the year? Do we teach our children to attract and cultivate evil spirits at Halloween? Certainly, dressing up like a demon or a witch invites evil rather than opposes it! Some parents encourage their children to participate in the world of demons. Are some of you parents sacrificing your children to Satan and to wicked spirits It’s time for such so-called Christians to repent of supporting the Devil and rebelling against Christ!
Dress you baby up for Halloween
and they will end up devil babies!
Many years ago Keith Stump, a former Plain Truth writer, penned an article about Halloween that sent diehard COG believers over the edge. He pointed this out:
"To all COG members out there:
Is your children’s Christianity so feeble as to be endangered
by a plastic mask and a few candy bars?
Are your children so inadequately grounded in their religion
as to be tempted into a life of witchcraft by attending a costume party?
Are you yourself so poorly rooted in your faith that you fear your children
will ask questions to which you have no satisfactory answers?"
I have seen no evidence of children being psychologically warped or seduced into a life of witchcraft and perversion as a result of innocent Halloween activities. I HAVE, however, seen many fearful and superstitious COG children who have been conditioned to be abnormally hypersensitive to anything blackened with the feared label “occult”. One child in particular comes to mind, whom I witnessed shrieking in stark terror at the mere sight of a jack-o-lantern. Are you raising fearful children who, like medieval peasants, see Satan lurking behind every tree and demons skulking in every dark corner? Are you raising children who fear they will “open themselves up” to “demonic control” at any moment by the slightest misstep? What a tenuous, precarious and paranoid spirituality! Satan is a defeated enemy! We need not shrink inanimate mortal remains. Explain that fear of black cats is an ancient superstition of the ignorant. Talk to them about the fanciful creations of horror fiction, like werewolves and vampires. It’s healthy to examine the things that frighten us. Tell them about “ghosts” or disembodied spirits. (The dead are relatively safe; it’s the living you need to watch out for!) And talk to them about the subject of life after physical death. Tell them about the Lord of Life who overcame death. Assuage their fears about those who can kill the body but not the soul.
So here’s my point: Objection to Halloween is a reflection of something much broader: an obsession with trivialities, a confusion of priorities, a primitive fear of the unknown, an arrogance that finds “righteousness” in being odd-ball and out-of-step. Fundamentalists can find something offensive or objectionable in almost anything. They have a world view in which virtually everything is “anti-Christian”. They have lost the ability to filter the important from the inconsequential. The traditional COG prohibition against Halloween ignores the facts of history, misrepresents the modern holiday, and demonstrates a woeful lack of spiritual discernment.
Look who's back—the Almighty's absolute favorite prophet, gracing us all with his endless symphony of whines about how he's just the most persecuted soul on the planet. Because, you know, in the entire annals of church history, no one has ever suffered quite like this pint-sized powerhouse and his merry band of followers. Truly, the agony he's enduring right now—and oh, the horrors yet to come—puts everything else to shame.
But hey, if this sniveling little turd really wants a masterclass in "real" Christian persecution, why not take a leisurely glance at Nigeria, Pakistan, Sudan, Egypt, Somalia, Libya, Eritrea, and Iraq, or any of those charming spots where actual believers are getting massacred by the thousands in just the past few weeks? Meanwhile, our pampered little devil's advocate lounges in his plush, impeccably decorated home in Arroyo Grande, CA, furiously hammering away at his keyboard like the forces of darkness are about to kick down his door and silence his oh-so-vital "ministry." How utterly terrifying.
It must take an impressive amount of brass balls for this phony, self-crowned newbie—who kicked off his tiny cult in a glorious tantrum against Rod Meredith and the Living Church of God—to play the persecution card while genuine Christians are out there getting butchered. No wonder absolutely nobody from the LCG or the Churches of God bothered to join his adorable little fan club. Those folks can spot a con artist and a me-me-me egomaniac from a mile away.
And sure, when the magnificent Great Bwana Bob finally leads by example, ditches his cozy setup, and jets off to Africa to preach like a "true" man of God, we'll all just drop everything and believe every word. Yeah, right—keep dreaming, champ.
The sickness that permeates the Philadelphia Church of God gets worse by the day. Their vile "no contact" rule that breaks up families, marriages, and relationships has contributed to another suicide.
One of the reasons is because he never got over losing his older brother and sister to the PCG’s “no contact rule.”
He lost his mother when he was 12. Something he took very hard.
Then when I was put out of the PCG, he lost his brother and sister who remained in the “church” and quit contact with me and him. Toward the end he talked about them a lot. He could not understand why they would not contact me, my other daughter that is out of the PCG, or him. He wanted to go visit them but thought they would not welcome him unless he was in “the church.”
But, he wanted nothing to do with that “church.”
Even though my daughter Elise is in the PCG and under the “no contact rule.” Under penalty of being cast into the lake of fire by Gerald Flurry, she did text me, call me and sent me a picture of her son, my little grandson, who it turns out she had named after her brother, my son Sterling, that had just killed himself. And she told me she was going to have another baby, a girl.
So not only did I lose my youngest son, I lost my other son, my daughter, a grandson and a granddaughter.
How much longer will God allow this evil group to continue? How many families have been destroyed and lives lost?
I hope you post this and use real names. –Dan Moffett (Former PCG member)
One thing the Church of God ministers have a hard time doing since the implosion of the mother church is keeping members under control and doing what ministers demand. Church members have wisened up through the decades, and many now keep COG leaders at arm's length and do not jump at their every command. Church government nonsense is highly abused in the church.
John Brisby is not too happy that some of his followers do not kowtow to him.
It includes, especially, the making of necessary administrative decisions for managing group assemblies! If God commanded that we appear before Him in a convocation, some way, somehow, decisions have to be made to confirm those physical meetings. God did not choose to provide each one of us with a weekly message delivery service, as by an angel. No, He delegated that authority through lawfully-ordained ministers. When one of Christ's true ministers "makes the call" to pick a meeting place and a time for assembly, then God accepts that human appointment—binds in heaven what has been bound upon earth—and then acts Himself to appear in that particular place, at that prescribed time, to meet with the faithful.
The truth of the matter is that Bisby commands this because he can collect money; he even admits it!
This is a hard saying for many in God's church today who hate the concept of church government and prefer instead to practice their Christianity "on their own." This command of God to meet Him in a place which He shall choose upends the whole notion of claiming that they do not really need a human ministry. In practicality, someone must collect the tithes in God's name,use God's money to serve an organized religious work, and someone also must publish where and when to meet God to fulfill the Sabbath command in full. The fact is, God did it this way intentionally to force each one of us to step out in faith to "pick" where God is working.
If you fail to convoke with an assembly of church members on the Sabbaths because you reject "organized religion" in general, watch out! God indeed did organize His Church—give specific instructions for its practical operation today—and give authority to someone, somewhere, somehow, to speak in His name and to fulfill those physical requirements for the group. Likewise, if you are failing to convoke in a church service because you simply do not know where God truly is working, that is not a sustainable position, long term. If you are not sure, you are not sure. But, God expects each one of us to search out where a faithful assembly is located, and then to act to make ourselves part of it. Sitting on the sidelines because of chronic indecision is not acceptable. Again, you cannot fully keep the Sabbath unless you are convoking with God in His appointed place.
What a gloriously sunny day in California, where the sheer idiocy emanating from Grover Beach rolls on without a single pause. Nothing should shock us anymore when the Great Bwana opens his mouth, but alas, it never fails to deliver fresh absurdity. Ever since God supposedly dreamed up this end-time prophet while laying the very foundations of the world, this destined hero was fated to "restore" the one true church and churn out countless booklets in native languages, all to fulfill some half-baked prophecy that wasn't even fully invented at that time.
Never has the Church of God been blessed with a more "persecuted" prophet than our very own Great Bwana Bob! If John Foxe, the esteemed author of Foxe's Book of Martyrs, were still kicking around today, he'd undoubtedly dedicate an entire chapter to the harrowing, intense persecution our fearless leader has endured. Forget boiling vats of oil or having his flesh flayed off—nope, not for Bob. His torment comes in the form of a demonic persecution by Kindle. And people wonder why Armstrongism has devolved into a total laughingstock these days.
Amazon Kindle
We were betrayed by ineptness and probably demonic influence from Amazon Kindle.
The Apostle Paul wrote that the faithful Christians “do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places” (Ephesians 6:12).
Last Friday, Amazon Kindle said that they were suspending our account because supposedly we did not have the rights to publish the meditation book I wrote. This came up in the past, and although I did write that book and tried to show Amazon, they would not accept the truth, so we published that with another company.
When I appealed Amazon’s position on Friday and asked Amazon for specifics, it replied that they did not need to provide any. Early Sunday I wrote again, but Amazon further said its procedures allowed them to do what they wanted. Amazon, also, would not have me speak to anyone there to ask about the issues. And then Monday at 1:33 pm EDT, Amazon sent an email stating that they were removing all of our materials from their platform.
So, we are in the process of trying to figure out how to move all our books in multiple languages to another platform. This will be a monumental task and take a lot of time and resources. Although there are a few possible positives associated with leaving Amazon, this is a serious issue that may take at least a year to mostly (not entirely) resolve.
The Great Bwana's god got so angry over this that he caused a great outage of Amazon's web services! Magical god is all-powerful! Do not anger Bwana Bob's magical god!
Coincidentally (?), I (without looking for anything bad about Amazon) saw that the following that hit Amazon within hours of it sending out a final cancellation notice to us:
Amazon said its cloud computing service was recovering from a major outage that disrupted online activity around the world. Amazon Web Services provides remote computing services to many governments, universities and companies, including The Associated Press. The first signs of trouble emerged at around 3:11 a.m. Eastern Time, when Amazon Web Services reported on its Health Dashboard that it is “investigating increased error rates and latencies for multiple AWS services in the US-EAST-1 Region.” https://apnews.com/article/2025-amazon-web-service-outage-zoom-roblox-down
The next day, I happened to have run across the following from the BBC:
The Amazon Web Services (AWS) outage on Monday made global headlines after knocking some of the world’s largest sites offline for hours. … the outage has also reignited the debate around whether countries, including the UK, are over-dependent on a handful of US tech firms. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0jdgp6n45po
Interestingly, AWS typically accounts for 60–70% — or more — of Amazon’s total operating income (profit). If its latest disruption gets major clients to move, that will impact Amazon.
Anyway, that said, Satan does not want our information available and has influenced various other platforms to remove us and/or shadow ban us.
However, as the organization with the mantle of the Philadelphian remnant, we will move ahead. And working on functioning without Amazon Kindle is something that has taken up a fair amount of my time since Sunday.
The proclamation work of Matthew 24:14 and 28:19-20 will continue and we continue to strive to go through the doors that Jesus opens for His Philadelphian remnant (cf. Revelation 3:7-13...
News Flash: Jesus Christ Returns December 19, 2025
Despite his waning health, David C. Pack continues to seek the prophetic golden pot at the end of his malarkey rainbow. During "The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 601)" on October 11, 2025, the Pastor General of The Restored Church of God teased that he knew the date we had all been waiting for, even though the brethren were at the Feast of Tabernacles already disappointed that the Kingdom to Israel did not begin on October 6 as Dave previously taught.
Displaying inexplicable confidence during Part 602 on October 18, Dave admitted he was "all in" on the new date for the arrival of the Kingdom, which is now finally, definitely, and certainly at the moment of sunset in Jerusalem on Friday, December 19, 2025, which begins Kislev 30. This biblical fact is now inarguable and can never be defeated. Ahem.
This 7-minute video is a "David C. Pack's Greatest Hits" for foolish self-assurance, unwavering bravado, and a case study of the depths of human self-delusion.
For those who can no longer stand the sound of his voice or lack the patience to endure a 7-minute video at 1.5x speed, here are some doozy quotes that will surely not age well in the lead-up to December 19, 2025.
"The only way I could be dissuaded...is if God or Gabriel spoke from heaven with an oracle to tell me otherwise."
"It's the inevitable day we would learn which day can delay no further and be sure that we have it right."
"It's impossible, it's impossible, impossible, impossible that we're wrong."
"This is the day I and we have waited for."
"... there's no way it's wrong this time. [chuckles] No way."
"I'm gonna prove absolutely, unequivocally, it has to be this year."
"It's as unbreakable as a diamond... If anyone doubts Kislev 30 and December 19th, rouse yourself."
"...or God ended the book of Daniel teasing us."
"I couldn't possibly ever offer another date in their place. Could never be done. I'm absolutely all in on this date. Period. Our official position is that if all of that can be wrong, we can never know when either Kingdom arrives."
“Only an oracle from God or Gabriel or Christ could change my mind.”
It will take something far less than this to change his mind, such as a sneaking suspicion or when Dave is mildly uncomfortable.
Some of these quotes should sound familiar because David C. Pack has been repeating them since 2013. The brethren of The Restored Church of God should know better, but they willfully choose blindness because facing the truth about the human idol they worship is too horrific to face.
Pastor General David C. Pack is a blaspheming, hypocritical liar, a false teacher, a false apostle, and a false prophet. He will be the last person in the room to realize he will never be correct about the return of Jesus Christ because God is not motivating him to teach such things, and the Holy Spirit does not guide his thinking.
In the coming weeks, Dave will get "suspicious" and "uncomfortable" about Kislev 30 and pivot to some other date for other reasons. David C. Pack's 136th failure will not tarry. Wait for it because THAT will surely come.
