UPDATED: He Already Said It!—What On Earth Are You Waiting For?

He Already Said It!—What On Earth Are You Waiting For?

By Scott Steel

October 19, 2023

 

[This article has been updated.]

 

The reward for willing passengers was to be life-changing. After 6000 long lost years, the Mystery of God was now revealed, and its fulfillment was just a few calendar days away for the many who “gave all.”

 

To his credit, Pastor General David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God (RCG) has been a conveyer of energy. Like a wizard, he has created the modern Church of God (COG) experience using the magic of obscure artisan finesse. The sacred extension of his personality utilizes technical virtuosity to instill a grand transference of savage spiritedness to conjure wild sanctimony.

 

Because something is keeping 1300 people in RCG’s seats. If not this, then what?

 

 

Beginning of the End

 

Looking back ten years ago, RCG members had no expectation that hidden biblical mysteries needed to be defined, interpreted, clarified, and templatized. No one I knew expected the books of Haggai, Zechariah, Daniel, Ezekiel, Malachi, or Revelation to be unsealed, re-opened, and revealed. It would have been mind-blowing for early RCG members to think all this had to transpire just before the expected arrival of the Kingdom of God.

 

Prudent and zealous RCG brethren were striving to become like little children ready to enter the Kingdom of God. Such simple and pure thinkers were in no way ready for a wild man to drive an enormous prophetic bulldozer, laying waste to the theological landscape of their minds. There was no worry about what was about to occur nor any expectations for the sheer number of endless hours it would entail. We had a self-proclaimed apostle flush with millions of dollars of the membership’s “Common” money who just built the National Garden Club’s acclaimed gem: the World Headquarters Campus. There would be nothing that could stop the WORK of this magnitude. Even if it were told unto you, you would scarcely believe it.

 

During this time, Dave Pack completely controlled the high ground of the RCG. The “best” men out in the field churches were brought into the sphere of Headquarters to further strengthen and solidify the leverage of the narrative. For the lay members who were seeing the physical growth of the church from all vantage points, it was easy to obey the ministerial requirement to regard and wonder marvelously! 

 

But note that the gospel became known as the Mystery of the Kingdom of God and was open to interpretation. This event-laden narrative was initially titled "The Greatest Story Never Told!” which began in November 2015. Who doesn't like a good story, especially if "WE" are winners in the end? At that time, the Mystery of God was not in the discussion yet, as the starting focus was the Third Temple. We soon realized we were sitting on a roller coaster as our “apostle” laid the course and was the author of our exit strategy.

 

In Part 51, the series title was changed to "The Greatest Untold Story!" after Headquarters accountant Kory North informed the ministry they had been using the title of a pro-Nazi documentary about the life of Adolf Hitler.

 

 

History Repeats Itself

 

Jesus Christ and His relation to the gospel has long been the fighting stance for the Christian world to vilify Herbert W. Armstrong (HWA) and the Worldwide Church of God (WCG). Herbert Armstrong believed that Jesus Christ was just a messenger delivering a message about the Kingdom of God, which constituted the gospel. The majority of Christianity believed that the gospel was a message ABOUT Jesus Christ.

 

This would ultimately spark the ignition of the fire that decimated the Worldwide Church of God. Central to the scattering of 90,000 minds into all directions away from WCG was what Joseph W. Tkach, his son, and "high-ranking ministers" changed as a core teaching: who and what God is.

 

It is pretty simple to extract from the prayer of “thy Kingdom come” that the Kingdom will be an event and a destination with a King. Dave Pack would come to laugh at such simple thinking. That is why he has spent the last ten years solving the Kingdom of God puzzle with simple math, simple history, and simple Bible misinterpretation. He has presented to his church that prophecy is an experience of “cascade learning” and that perceived failures are part of the process leading to truth.

 

According to Dave, that learning process in which he solves the mysteries of the Kingdom and knowing when its arrival is scheduled constitutes first redefining the descriptive nature of God the Father and Jesus Christ. This is David C. Pack's updated and expanded “God Is…” doctrine.

 

Why have ministers and leaders of the Churches of God (COG) throughout history put God through an open reinterpretation to define just who and what He is before the lay member can obtain any understanding of the gospel or the gifts of God?

 

I can confirm the testimony of many of my fellow brethren. The true God healed us, sometimes, many times over. The God we have healed some of our children and miraculously protected them. The God we have mercifully called us out of a condemned world to Himself. The God we have turned the car about to hit us at 60 mph intangible to spare us from certain death.

 

Through these interactions alone, we understand entirely the nature and identity of God and His gifts. Did we need yet another man to come along and alter our thinking about our God and “improve” upon Him? Why must we accept Dave Pack’s revised and expanded god?

 

 

The Restored Church of Another god

 

A visibly unwell Dave Pack delivered “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 470)” on September 23, 2023. The stakes have never been higher as he succumbed to his unstoppable urge and insatiable desire to “rush to call out and make plain” the simple understanding of God in the very last days.

 

Dave’s contagious sickness was no obstacle to his presentation of “knowledge” about all the newly discovered attributes of God. If the membership had been paying attention, they would have realized they were witnessing not only a cascade of learning but also an avalanche of moments when Jesus Christ was removed from the Holy Scriptures, and a suitable replacement was inserted.

 

That replacement by divine selection was none other than David Crowl Pack.

 

Dave insisted this was a necessary transplantation. Jesus Christ could not be "That Prophet" and speak in the Lord's name. So, Dave Pack had to assume that role and title. Jesus Christ couldn't be the Branch of Jesse and have righteousness as the girdle of His loins or faithfulness as the girdle of His reigns. Jesus Christ also could not sit on His throne or bear the glory because it would not fit Dave’s timing. So, Dave Pack had to assume that role and title. A man would have to do all these things. Jesus Christ is not a man, and to suggest so insults Him.

 

Part 465 – September 2, 2023

@ 52:56 The last man to sit on David’s throne was named David, but he was a servant and he was a man. Christ was neither.

 

Since Dave Pack is named David, the Bible must be talking about him because no other options are possible. For decades, WCG members thought they were learning about Jesus Christ when they were actually learning about Dave Pack.

 

As exrcg.org has meticulously recorded, Dave Pack has usurped many titles for himself. Elijah, That Prophet, the Branch, Shepherd, and Stone of Israel, Star of Jacob, the Messenger of the Covenant, Lawgiver, Son of Man, the Seventh Messenger, and Goodman of the House. Those are only a few. Dave Pack recently confessed how many titles he found for himself in the Bible. Do not be tricked by his use of third-person pronouns. He is talking about himself.

 

Part 470 – September 3, 2023

@ 17:40 He is a man called a servant and various other things, and he's Elijah. Lot of different terms for him. I wrote up thirty-four of them…

 

Jesus Christ is being systematically replaced with Dave Pack. This is the reality in RCG. The Kingdom of God could "never, never, never" be understood until Dave’s status, titles, and involvement in God's plan were adequately understood.

 

In the context of removing Jesus Christ from the Bible and putting himself in, Dave Pack admitted, “This journey was extraordinary, historically prophetic, and amazing all rolled into one.” What a brave statement to a, hopefully not utterly blind audience.

 

 

The Trinitarian

 

Dave Pack was still not done redefining God. He has already corrupted the Christology of Jesus and the nature of God the Father, but brace yourself for what else is to come.

 

He said the WCG made two big errors: to increase Christ by calling Him the "God of the Old Testament" and then decrease Him by having him do things only “a man” would do. How does this affect the Godhead?

 

Since the Mystery of God was being finalized "at the very end," which is critical for understanding the Kingdom of God, Dave found it necessary to chide the long-deceased Joseph W. Tkach for introducing the concept that Jesus Christ was all through the Bible. That false teaching slayed the understanding of the membership by introducing one being in the Old Testament.

 

According to Dave, this is woefully incorrect. There are three Beings spoken of in the Old Testament. Yes, Dave Pack just established that he has become part of a rudimentary trinity.

 

•       The Father is The Lord of Hosts.

•       Jesus Christ is the Captain of the Host.

•       David C. Pack is the Branch, the Stone of Israel, the Star of Jacob, the Lawgiver, the Messenger of the Covenant, Joshua the High Priest, plus 28 more.

 

Dave Pack cannot possibly be making himself equal with God. Or could he? There is no way Dave Pack just introduced a new trinitarian godhead to RCG. Or did he?

 

 

The Biggest Elijah

 

More recently in the Series, Dave Pack has established that God and Jesus Christ will be gigantic when they eventually come to earth in a later Kingdom. Think of a grown man holding a globe kind of big. And they have invisible wings. 

 

One of the thirty-four titles Dave holds is "one like the son of man" of Revelation 14:14. Dave Pack is sitting on a cloud holding a sickle and reaping the earth. As Elijah, he will be big. Toweringly big.

 

After making such a strong point about “a man” needing to fulfill all the roles that “reduce” Jesus Christ, he then teaches things that "a man" cannot do. This begs the question: "Why can't Jesus Christ do this? If God has to give a man incredible power, why would His Son not have that power to do it?"

 

Part 470 – September 23, 2023

@ 11:42 The seventh messenger is on a cloud, and he has a sickle in his hand.

 

@ 12:07 The one who’s on the sickle is giant. It’s Elijah. We talked about he’s riding a cloud. So, how big’s the sickle? I’m sure it is not a dot in his palm, and he trying to figure out how to get a hold of it. So, if you see a giant sword or a giant sickle in your mind, all of those going back to nine days ago, help us understand the size of Godwhich is the greatest part of the Mystery of God.

 

Pause for a moment.

 

The size of God is tied directly to a vivid picture of Dave Pack on a cloud. In order to see God properly, you must see Dave Pack properly, and the greatest part of the Mystery of God is now becoming clear.

 

The whole theological playing field was just upended. There has been a subtle introduction of godly characterizations of Dave Pack, making him a necessary pathway to God. It is time to call this for what it is. David C. Pack, in all his physically enormous highness and self-importance, just walked himself right into the “god trap." It's a "trinitarian god trap,” at that.

 

He just offered the most insidious bait and switch ever perpetrated. He stealthily presented himself as a lowly human who is co-servant to God and then, as quick as flipping a light switch, grandly elevated himself to an actual GOD BEING co-joined to the Father and Jesus Christ. This was the intended “learning” point for his congregation to picture in their minds: a massive, winged, sickle-laden biblically titled God of Grandeur, savior of Israel and Judah and the world!

 

Despicable, schismatic, ragingly heretical, and blatantly blasphemous!

 

 

In Place of Christ

 

Many over the years have wondered if it was only a matter of time before Dave Pack would claim he was God. As abhorrent as this is, acting in the role of destroyer, Dave Pack has cut down Jesus Christ to the ground just so that he could stand and tower over Him. 

 

Dave removes Jesus Christ from pages of the Bible to severely reduce Him, and then takes all the glory and righteousness for himself. It is Dave’s only option for increasing himself to the ultimate position.

 

Part 470 – September 23, 2023

@ 13:23 Now, Christ can reduce Himself to be come back as “this same Jesus you saw.” He’ll just be a normal-sized person…but He comes back as “this same Jesus.” I don’t know. Six-foot man, whatever He is.

 

The picture of a gigantic Dave Pack on a cloud and a “six-foot man” Jesus Christ perfectly illustrates his thinking.

 

 

The RCG Dilemma

 

There are certainly questions for current RCG members to consider. Has the reward for your long-suffering and patience "at the very end" been truly "life-changing?" What have you gained? Or should it be asked, what have you lost?

 

It has been said everyone is waiting for something. Dave Pack has made it crystal clear that the wait for the revelation of the Mystery of God is now over. Dave Pack’s self-inclusive astonishing trinitarian God has been established as concrete doctrine. The Mystery of God now ended, the Kingdom of God is now supposedly understood. But what is the reward for the patient, longsuffering RCG member in the Kingdom of God? Dave Pack definitively and succinctly revealed and made plain the ultimate reward of the RCG membership.

 

Part 468 – September 9, 2023
@ 19:24 You will not be sitting in Jerusalem. Elijah will because of his overall roll. But, you will be a king in a place far away.

 

@ 20:12 …but you won’t all be sitting in, you know, in the Branch’s court. You be 10,000 miles away.

 

The Devil doesn’t want any “saints” living in his presence either!

 

It is time to ask: Are you invested so far in your leader's theological exegesis that your mind can only see a giant, winged, mighty man towering as a powerful reaper of the earth in the image of god? Are you at peace with the one you call Jesus Christ, an inconsequential "in the background" figure with the world-known Dave Pack as the visible frontman? Are you okay with an invisible Jesus Christ working behind the scenes in a dark room in the Temple of God for precisely 360 days? Are you filled with excitement that this new trinitarian doctrine grossly disagrees with long-standing WCG understanding because holding fast to “old understanding” would deny you your ultimate reward?

 

Members of The Restored Church of God, what will it take for you to act?

 

The trail of evidentiary facts are right before your eyes. The biblical warnings of the apostles have come to fruition. Peter, Paul, and Jesus Christ’s words have never been more true for the time now. An unrelenting assault is taking place to capture your minds and to pervert your thinking.

 

The theological determination of David C. Pack should not only be frightening, it should be inconceivably terrifying when you consider where he is heading. What else could be added to expose what just transpired and has became a reality in the highest seat of the Restored Church of God?

 

Part 470 – September 23, 2023

@ 17:27 …because if you looked through and you believe all of that, there's one Being, where, in fact, there's three. One's the Lord of Hosts. One the other one said, “My Father's greater than I.” He’s the Captain of the Host. And the other was way down the line. He is a man called a servant and various other things, and he's Elijah.Lot of different terms for him. I wrote up 34 of them…

 

David C. Pack has committed the most sacrilegious, blasphemous offense against what we know as God that has been seen in our time. He reduced Jesus Christ God (who said, “I and my Father are one”) to the visual dust of the earth and made himself a "most high God" in the Kingdom of God.

 

The good and gracious Jesus Christ said all blasphemies and heresies will be forgiven except for one. That is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ did the miracles of God by the power of the Holy Spirit and was falsely accused of doing that work by the spirit of Beelzebub—the prince of demons. That is the unpardonable sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

 

In 2013, David C. Pack said, “I’m not getting this [new understanding] from the voice of God or the voice of an angel or in a dream. I’m getting it from the Holy Spirit, which is the Spirit of Truth!"

 

Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is a two-way street. If a man cunningly does the work of Beelzebub and calls it the work of the Holy Spirit, that is unquestionably blaspheming the Holy Spirit. It doesn’t get any more serious than this, and it is happening right before our eyes and ears. The blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is disguised as ending God's Mystery.

 

For the RCG brethren, reality is now. There can be no hope of fully understanding the Kingdom of God when you lose sight of who and what the true God is. Discerning the difference between a false Jesus and the true Jesus Christ is of the utmost importance. Do you recognize which master you serve?

 

Embracing a man with his self-conceived God standing, resplendent visage, unchallenged authority, and kingdom preeminence has its own reward. When you adopt his doctrines, you adopt the fruits thereof. Please see this as an earnest warning and recognize it is not too late to turn your thinking around and anoint your eyes to accept what you already know.

 

David C. Pack does not teach the truth. He does not teach a true God anymore and is poisoning the sheep instead of feeding them. Anyone who chooses to continue on his path will be partakers in his reward. And I fear for such people.

Courtesy of Marc Cebrian

Can Dave Pack be trusted to tell the truth about himself or anyone else?

Can Dave Pack be trusted to tell the truth
about himself or anyone else?   Dave Pack has made many false and disparaging remarks about those that have left his employ or have left his church. How can you be sure whether he is telling the truth or telling lies? Unless you have firsthand knowledge of  him and his behavior, it may be difficult to determine with absolute certainty.

What if it can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he has lied about himself, in order to make himself look good to others? And what if those lies can be exposed for the lies that they truly are? Then you could know with certainty that he is the type of man who will lie about others who are exposing him in order to make them look as bad as possible and him as good as possible.

Let’s examine some claims Dave Pack has made about himself!
 

"I am certainly ready and willing to do the work of spreading the message of the Kingdom of God to the world. I have a whole host of ideas about HOW to do it should Christ make the funds and staff available. For instance, The Plain Truth newsstand program was largely a project that I developed, almost from its inception."David C. Pack, Why The Restored Church of God? Page 19 second Paragraph Edition 1.2 June 1999

 
Surely, Dave Pack would not mislead anyone or "misspeak himself" about himself. He of all people would know whether the above statement is truthful or not! He of all people would know what events have happened in his life!

To put the above statement in print in a foundational booklet about his church must be proof that he is telling the truth about himself. Right?

Let’s see what official Worldwide Church of God documents and publications from the time period in question reveal.
 
In Volume 1, Number 2 of The Worldwide News dated April 30, 1973 on page 3 it says:

 

Plain Truth Newsstand Distribution Rapidly Accelerating Worldwide
Bricket Wood – A dramatic idea fired our imagination almost two years ago here in England. The idea – newsstand distribution – came from Mr. Ronald Dart, then director of the foreign educational service.
The door of radio broadcasting in Britain had already closed very firmly in 1967, and the Work had one less medium by which to advertise and educate. A new method of promoting The Plain Truth had to be found.
In 1971 Mr. Dart said he believed that newspaper and magazine shops and outlets in rail, bus and air terminals would prove effective distribution points for The Plain Truth.
 
Experience has shown he was absolutely right. Now, the program of newsstand distribution is gathering momentum in other countries.
 
From humble beginnings in July, 1971, when 399 magazines were placed on newsstands in Britain, the operation has accelerated rapidly.
 
Now, a total of 170,000 copies are dispatched each month to the United Kingdom, the Republic of Ireland, Belgium, Holland, Denmark, Switzerland, Portugal, the Falkland Islands, French Canada, South Africa and Japan.

By including subscription cards in the newsstand issues, many thousands have been encouraged to request regular mailed copies. A full five percent of each month’s readership request a subscription.

 

It is clear and beyond any shadow of a doubt that Dave Pack has lied to us in the pages of his booklet entitled "Why the RCG?" Official Worldwide Church of God literature informs us the idea was Mr. Ron Dart’s, not Dave Pack’s. Nowhere in the article does the name of Dave Pack even appear. Interesting indeed if the statement "The Plain Truth newsstand program was largely a project that I developed, almost from its inception" was actually true. What is even more interesting about Dave Pack’s claim to fame regarding the newsstand program being his idea and not Mr. Dart’s is the fact that Dave Pack was still a novice in the truth at AC at the time Mr. Dart created the newsstand program. His claim has a similar ring to his stealing the credit from Karen Ray and her compilations of doctrinal changes and calling it all his own ("Except There Come A Falling Away" and "Except The Lord Build The House").

This is just one of many provable examples of how Dave Pack makes boastful claims about himself, in order to glorify himself, all the while telling a pack of lies.

From the Way Back Machine:  Can Dave Pack be trusted to tell the truth about himself or anyone else? 

Dave Pack: This Is My Last Message...Man of Sin Returning On Or Before Christmas. Third Time Is The Charm!

 

From an RCG source regarding sermon 336.

(~25:20) - “Remember my [Dave Packs] task at the end is to remove mystery, to remove things that are cloudy. And we're going to see more of that in a minute, in a way we never have and the whole 336 sermons.”

If this was Dave’s task at the end, he has utterly failed. The muddy, confusing, self-aggrandizing multi-year prophetically failed series is the reason he is on sermon 336. Since all other previous parts are invalid by his own admission, it seems he is working against his stated purpose.

(~10:30) - “There are an awful lot of verses. We looked at one year ago and two years ago, but weren't quite sure how to read and they said they had a lot to say about, God says, "I'm going to destroy all your holidays." And we wonder what is that? Would God allow the man of sin to come and keep Christmas or bring Christmas back to the world after the kingdom of God had come? Would He even want men to keep Thanksgiving/ Those are just interesting questions. I can't give you an exact answer, but, five verses at least point pretty strongly that the man of sin is here somewhere around or before Christmas. He may be dead by Christmas or may arrive on Christmas, but there would have been nothing about Christmas that was allowed to be kept.

In the Kingdom worldwide, Christmas is just shut down! It's beginning to rev up, the songs, the incense, the covetousness, the decorations, the lights, the shopping, the people whizzing all over the place, too much to drink, overspending, gluttony, parties, caroling is not quite here yet, but some of it is, and the shopping. And so it's just an interesting thing to put in the back of your mind. If God let some of it get going, and then sends Christ and Elijah [Dave Pack] would be the one who'd have to say this. "See all of this, God hates it, shut it down! It's over worldwide." Nobody will do one more thing regarding Christmas until potentially around a little before or at or whatever Christmas time, this guy comes back.” 

 

I love that we are back to attacking Christmas this time of year! It makes me chuckle that he still speaks against it with the ferocity he does. This is now the third time Dave has prophesied the return of Christ/man of sin/some big event on Christmas. (Third time is the charm!)

December 12, 2019 - Dave Pack: (paraphrased) "The season" in Luke 12:42is the Christmas season. I defy you to say that is wrong. Either when (Dave is) speaking or during the Christmas season Christ returns. Saturday night is my last message and I am sticking to it!"

January 2, 2020 - Dave Pack “The powerful case for New Year’s remains unchanged. It is still noumenia today and will be through midnight. All who understand the dynamic of New Year’s know heavy drinking is scheduled to continue through tonight, and frankly on through what will be for many a “long, lost weekend.” It became clear that we needed to have this pagan festival [he lumped in Christmas/New Years this year] behind us. It also became clear that God, as we have wondered many times in the past, may use the Sabbath in a big way. All evidence has come to point to sometime this evening. 

(~1:58:00) - “Now let's back up, in the days of his [Dave Pack] voice when he's about to sound, it says "it's present active." This is my [Dave's] last message. Surely you must all know that. What would I tell you on Monday or Wednesday? I can't imagine, I've been surprised before, but all the mystery is over. But it looks like it's "present active." When he [Dave Pack] sounds.

Now it's going to take a few days for all of God's people to hear this because "the good man of the house [Dave Pack] warns the house" and they know what's going on before anybody else does, and their lights are burning and they're going to get the kingdom.

So the "days of his voice," or he's rushing to call it out, he's rushing because what we're going to have a two week layoff? We're going to shoot way on into December or something? Why is he [Dave Pack] rushing to call it out? Well, for the same reason that the days of his voice and his final messages are contiguous, they're present active. When he's about to sound for the first time. Now that picture in Revelation 10:7 describes the things he does, finishes a series, as I understand it brethren, and sounds, and Christ is still in heaven waiting to come and tell him [Dave Pack], eat the book. And we're going to deal with Israel in two phases.”

Part 336 - You heard it here, this is his last message, I think we hold him to it. (There are literally a ton more times he claims that either he/Christ/God finished the series. Hasn’t happened yet.

Part 294 - “So the "mystery of God" was not done without today's sermon, the proverbial, "No Way!" It just wasn't. And it resets timing! Because there's one last message.” 

Part 287 - “It's all there, it is right, and it is this is the last message that I was led by god to explain.” 

Part 224 - “This is the last sermon you will ever need to hear!”

Part 175 - “This is the last part of the series!”

Part 168 - "The sermon series ends with Part 168!"

(36:20-37:00) - “So there would be a time when complete understanding of prophecy would arrive. Now, probably not quite as absolutely perfect as when God raises him [Dave Pack] and he talks to the world. We're going to see that a little before Christ gets here, but it is important to understand in light of what you're going to hear tonight. We may be learning the complete picture tonight. So the series [Dave Pack] has been prophesying in part, it was always building to when that, which is in part is done away with it's made entirely void. I mean, we've been a long time, but in some ways I'm going to just do away in a single stroke tonight through an amazing exercise. I'm going to do away with a lot of what we understood, while validating every bit of it. Now how in the world can we do that?

We now have "the almost complete picture." Christ will bring a little more but it's complete enough that God says before this man [Dave Pack] ever sounds. And he [Dave Pack] actually sounds up to a day before Christ gets here, the picture will be complete. So when is that it's supposed to be in the days of his [Dave Packs] voice? Well, it's been four days, but I've been banging away here for a while. Recently, clearing things up, he's [Dave Pack] rushing to call it out. And at a certain point, he [Dave Pack] gets to a last message and that triggers something. And this isn't that message, but it's the last message probably I will give to you. And it's the last message you will need to hear from me.”

Once again, either God revealed this for the third time to Dave or He didn’t. 

Draw your own conclusions.

Dave Pack in his sickness actually trashed his own renowned sermon defining the "truth"

 

From a reader:

Since there is 22 symptoms listed (see RCG's David C Pack Is Finally Diagnosed) and the statement that there is more that could be identified, we could presumably conclude there is at least 30 symptoms being exhibited at all times throughout this last seven years. 

 

If we take this list of symptoms and create an interplay with Dave Pack's "famous" sermon; Thirty Reasons To Follow The Truth, a stark dichotomy is exposed which if one were to continue to follow Dave Pack then that very same "truth" becomes dead. 

 

Dave Pack in his sickness actually trashed his own renowned sermon defining the "truth". How?
In his 1993 sermon he concretely established that the "truth" was not tied explicitly to any man. Fast forward to 2015 and Dave Pack took 20 minutes to open a sermon (as a way to mitigate member departures) and explained that Christ as head of the church working through his apostle to establish doctrine is the basis of belief and therefore his next statement detailed the required response of the member. He said: "If you don't believe and obey all that the church teaches - you are a heretic who will go into the lake of fire."

If we go back to the same 1993 sermon, Dave Pack detailed that the "truth" was never tied to the four walls of any entity. He even quoted Herbert Armstrong who said; "if the "truth" ever ceases to be taught HERE for any reason, then we will just walk across the street and start all over."

From 2015 unto the present Dave has redefined WHERE the truth is. He emphatically stated that once a person proves what the "truth" is (in a church setting) and becomes baptized (in a church setting), that person forever forfeits the ability to question church doctrine and they no longer have the freedom to leave that same church. In both those instances, a person taking either or both pathes will lose their salvation according to Dave. He has numerous times reinforced this now mandatory belief by stating that salvation is explicitly tied to identifying WHERE the "truth" is being taught.
Dave Pack has stated the Greatest Story Never Told is all about finally establishing what the true gospel really is and it all about how salvation will come to be. The sick Dave Pack has firmly established that the true gospel message is nothing but a message about himself and the sick Dave Pack has firmly established that salvation comes from believing and obeying the words that come from the four walls of a building in Wadsworth, Ohio. 

 

Thirty reasons not to follow a sick man is easy to see. I would say there would be 60 and 90 reasons to not follow a very sick man. That is a direct inference to Dave Pack's second and third most famous sermons; Sixty and Ninety reasons To Follow The "Truth".

So what does Dave Pack really believe today? Should we even care what a sick man would give as an answer? It would after all having nothing to do with the "truth". What About The Truth

Impossible Possibilities by Scott Steel

 

Impossible Possibilities

By Scott Steel

exrcg.org

 

 

While listening to “The Greatest Untold Story!” Parts 423 and 424 by David C. Pack, I was initially surprised by the content. The mystery became bigger and more vast than expected. I certainly didn’t think he would entertain such an abrupt about-face from his previously established doctrinal truth that comprised the “final” Mystery of God.

 

Since I departed from The Restored Church of God in 2016, I have occasionally followed the ramblings of Dave Pack. As a now-outsider looking in, it has sometimes been comical while at other times concerning. But all of the time, it has been a self-defeating mess.

 

One word repeated too often has caught my attention more than any other throughout the years. This word should catch everyone's attention, no matter what context it is used in.

 

Impossible.

 

It is the most frequently used qualifier that enhances the immovable nature of the current teaching. By stating it over and over, Dave Pack tells his audience there is no other logical option of belief.

 

Impossible to be…

Impossible not to be…

 

Dave Pack has used “impossible” countless times in sermons and in his Brethren/Co-worker letters. “It is impossible for this present evil world to continue any longer.” That is his favorite expression to paint the bleak intensity of worsening world conditions that can’t go on another year. Herbert W. Armstrong of The Worldwide Church of God was well-versed in this technique. Today, we call that fear-mongering.

 

The “jaw-dropped” Headquarters ministers have adopted “impossible” numerous times in their Prophecy Updates for the RCG membership. This purposely blocks all non-conforming thoughts from the idea that the desired conclusion has any chance of not being correct.

 

Dave Pack has really been on a roll these past few years in defining the context of his greatest story. It is impossible for the prophetic picture to change. It is impossible for any option other than what is taught today. The subject matter is conclusive, and no further discussion is required.

 

 

This past Saturday, February 25, 2023, Dave Pack gave Part 423, which was laced with “threads” to establish the completely new Mystery of God.

 

He continually pushes aside potential detractors from within the membership by reinforcing his points of fact 19 times using “impossible.” That number does not include all the occurrences, which means there are more.

 

Part 423 – February 25, 2023

@ 24:33 Now, if that's true if those eleven days are true (they are), it’s impossible, it’s impossible, brethren, to not know when the Day of the Lord is. It’s impossible. It’s Iyar 1.

 

Who would dare argue with a triply-impossible fact like that?

Dave Pack indicates with bravado how "impossible to argue with" his new understanding is. His proof and metrics are inarguable, and the brethren better not try.

 

That was the theme of both messages on Saturday. Parts 423 and 424. The sequence of the events and their placement within the 2023 calendar are impossible to dispute, and all his points are inarguable.

 

 

If his biblical knowledge is so spot-on and impossible to disagree with, why does Dave Pack present such a powerful position while also revealing a defensive posture?

 

I mean, it’s like robbing a bank. Imagine this:

 

Give me all the money. I have a gun and will kill you. I want all unmarked twenty-dollar bills in a cotton bag. I have a gun and will kill you. Don't say a thing to anyone. Just smile. I have a gun and will kill you. It is impossible that I don’t have a gun. It’s inarguable that I won't kill you. Give me all the money.

 

Assertive and bold. But also insecure at the same time.

 

Why would God’s final revelation to His only Good and Faithful Servant be presented in such a threatened manner? If it were all inspired truth, what could possibly challenge God’s blessing of knowledge to His people through His chosen vessel and end-time prophet?

 

Maybe Dave Pack’s fragile display stems from the facts of history that, time and time again, get in the way of his "impossible to misunderstand” mistakes. Maybe it is because he just took a few months-weeks-days' worth of impossibilities and inarguable proofs and chucked them over the hill into the scrap pile that he rushes “in the midst of” to hold the Flag of Certainty Now while standing offensively defensive.

 

The picture was clear before but proven wrong. The new picture is even more clear than before. Until it is proven wrong seven days later.

 

 

What really surprised me the most, and I didn't see coming from Parts 423 and 424, was the number of big changes, not only to the timeline but also to the supportive metrics of the Mystery of God.

 

I counted at least 14 changes to what was just recently etched in granite as confirmation of factual evidence. Dave Pack took 790+ minutes of carved-in-stone teaching of the prophetic Mystery of God, laid it on a table in a dark back room, then took a sledgehammer and smashed it into pieces.

 

Once Dave Pack emerged from the killing floor, he cobbled together new months, days, beginnings, endings, dusks, dawns, who, what, where, how many, and then offered how impossible not to happen it all was. I mean, it’s just inarguable now.

 

As each day on the calendar comes and goes, Dave’s strong-arm assurances fall victim to the real possibility that his narrative is flawed. He has never understood the speed, intensity, and timing of real prophetic fulfillment. The beautifully framed RCG picture reveals a background of confusion. But, if you look closely, you can see it as just one big giant fraud. 

 

If Dave Pack is going to live or die with impossibilities, he had better be aware that possibilities are his and his god’s mortal enemy.

 

If Dave Pack continues to argue with the inarguable Dave Pack, the result is, and has always been, a house divided against itself. The calendar and simple math will define whether Dave Pack's "impossible not to happen” stands or falls.

 

It would be wise to prepare now for that real possibility.