Tuesday, November 28, 2017

God's ONLY True Apostle Delivers Up To 7 Hours Of New Revelations


The Church of God has only ONE true prophet and that is Gerald Flurry.  I am sure this frosts  Dave Pack, Almost-arrested Bob Thiel and Ron Weinland royal behinds to no end.  How can Gerald Flurry surpass them in revealed knowledge? In spite of the hundreds of idiotic things Pack, Weinland, and Almost-arrested Thiel have prophesied, Flurry outranks them by miles.  

Anyway, Grant Turgeon, the narcissistic son of Wayne Turgeon, has written a glowing report about the impressive ability of Gerald Flurry to be able to deliver 7 hours of biblical information and new revelations to the huddled masses during the 2017 Feast of Tabernacles.

EDMOND—During the Feast of Tabernacles and the Last Great Day in October, Philadelphia Church of God Pastor General Gerald Flurry delivered an opening night message, two offertories and four sermons totaling more than seven hours of biblical instruction and new revelation.
On October 4th Flurry preached a sermon about the book of Haggai.  Flurry claims that the vision of the Feast is the cure-all for problems facing the world, including wildfires, mass shootings and threats of nuclear strikes.
He called the vision of the Feast the solution to the many problems plaguing the world, including hurricanes, wildfires, mass shootings, and threats of nuclear strikes. He encouraged pcg members to keep their first love and to hunger and thirst for righteousness, challenging them to not let a single word fall to the ground, and to have a Feast that “shakes the heavens and the Earth,” as Haggai 2 states. 
Then Flurry spoke more about the new revelation he received from his resident demon about the new coronation stone he is in possession of.  Apparently, his god has begun the transition stage for the transfer of power from the Throne of England, with its Scottish coronation stone, to an itty-bitty14-inch tall rock dug out of a hill in Oregon. This will soon be the stone that Jesus is supposed to return to and sit upon.
Now is a transition stage for the throne of David, he said, from the British royal family, through the pcg, to Jesus Christ. He drew a parallel between the pcg possessing the new throne of David during a dangerous, pressure-packed end time, and a mother on the verge of giving birth. The transition stage, the baby’s descent from the womb, is the hardest yet shortest part of labor, he said. It is a time of peak vulnerability for the mother as she becomes desperate for a way to escape the agonizing pain. Mr. Flurry exhorted the brethren to have that same urgency and the same hope that birth into God’s Family is just moments away.
Flurry then went on to claim that all loyal tithe-paying members of the Philadelphia Church of God are "Sons of Zadok."  He then proceeded to list 8 reasons why this was "true."  

Did you know that one of the reasons PCG members are royal children of Zadok the high priest was that they stage musicals about Jeremiah and David in Edmond, Oklahoma?  Seriously!  I want to say WTF, but I won't.  People truly cannot be this stupid that they fall for this, can they?  Oh, wait, yes they can and did!
The message concluded with eight reasons why God’s loyal people are called sons of Zadok:
1. They cling to The United States and Britain in Prophecy.
2. They continue the dig in the City of David.
3. They are spiritual Jews who never lose the Key of David vision.
4. They continue to let God deepen that vision.
5. They continue to follow Herbert W. Armstrong, who taught the truth about David’s family throne.
6. They have staged musicals about Jeremiah and David, both of which focus on David’s throne.
7. They do all they can to proclaim the Key of David message to Israel and the whole world.
8. Is it also because they have the new throne of David?
Gerald then preached another sermon, this time about his new revelation on Herb's prayer rock magically turning into the new coronation stone.  This stone far surpasses Flurry's plagiarized Malachi's Message in the most inspiring way.  Herb's rock is now the centerpiece of the Philadelphia Church of God.  It is now canonized with such great biblical importance that it now possess amazing powers.
On Day 4, Mr. Flurry delivered another extra-length sermon. He reviewed the revelation he announced in January about the Church possessing a new stone of destiny and a new throne of David, calling it a “radical leap” for the Church. He said the new stone, Mr. Armstrong’s prayer rock, is “so special” that it’s described in detail in the Autobiography, and said it’s “more inspiring” than Malachi’s Message
Flurry then went on to talk about Almost-arrested Bob Thiel's bromance buddy, Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg.  Flurry claims Guttenberg is so pissed-off right now with Trump that he is filled with "unnatural revenge in his heart"  leading him to destroy the United States. This will be sure to set of Almost-arrested Thiel who will rage with jealousy that he never thought of this first!
Mr. Flurry quoted Britain’s Winston Churchill, who said in 1924 that Germany “smolders with dreams of revenge.” Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg’s recent attacks on President Donald Trump expose him as a man with unnatural revenge in his heart, Mr. Flurry said. The Nazi underground understands that America was responsible for defeating Germany in World War i and World War ii, he said; next time, the revived Holy Roman Empire will wipe out America first.
Here is the reason Flurry's god removed the Throne of David from the British Royal Family and placed it in Edmond, Oklahoma.  Flurry's god was not pleased with Chamberlain and Halifax at the start of WWII because they were weak impotent little men who disgraced the Throne of England.
It takes just one man to stand up and fight for what is right, Mr. Flurry said, referencing Churchill’s refusal to make a deal with the Nazis. King George vi preferred the compromise approach of Chamberlain and Halifax, making David’s throne a disgrace, Mr. Flurry asserted. It is no wonder that God took the throne from the British royal family, he said.
Philadelphia Church of God members sat there and breathlessly swallowed this bullshit believing every single word Flurry spoke as an inspired new revelation.

I have a feeling that in a few short years we will see death and destruction reign down from the hands of Flurry and the PCG members will go along with it all.      

See: Pastor General Speaks on Future Vision at Fall Festival: Topics included Haggai, the transition of King David’s throne, the Holy Roman Empire, and New Jerusalem.


"Why does failed prophecy not convince followers of the lack of integrity of the prophet and his/her theology?"




Neo made the following comment about COG prophets and their failed prophecies:
The question is why does failed prophecy not convince followers of the lack of integrity of the prophet and his/her theology? 
He continues with this:
In my case, I believed at that time that the WCG was the true church but its members were sometimes weak. Hence, someone, even someone of importance, could make a mistake in prophecy. I believe others viewed it the same way so Hoeh's error, as large as the failure of 1975, was overlooked - I assume - I never heard anything else about it. The whole thing vaporized leaving the WCG intact - no crisis for anyone I knew.   
This willingly beneficent attitude of those deceived works in favor of all the nouveau prophets who rise up(compare Trump). That is why this blog will never erode the base that supports these guys. We ex-Armstrongists view the words of the nouveau prophets as fixed but their followers view the words as fluid. Sometimes I think they even see prophecy as a kind of entertainment - like watching Ancient Astronauts on the History Channel - everyone knows it is not true but it is kinda fun. These ad hoc prophecies will fail and these nouveau prophets, like the artful dodger, will duck away unscathed to prophesy again. And they know it. That is why they are so bold in their error. It is for the momentary affect on their base, not us critics.  
-- Neotherm

I remember attending combined services in Columbus, Ohio in my youth for some Holy Day.  It was one of those double services days and we were told before we went to lunch that we were required to be back in the room and in our seats by a certain time.  At that time the doors to the auditorium would be locked and no one would be admitted or allowed to leave.  There was news from Headquarters that was vital to the church.

We came back from lunch early to make sure we were safe in the room.  They promptly shut the doors and had deacons stand and guard the doors.  The minister rolled out a large board onto the stage where he proceeded to map out, in detail, the exact date we would be fleeing in 1972.  My mother copiously copied all of it down, took it home and made a chart for the kitchen cabinet, that she put on the inside of the door.  As the days and months went by, she crossed them off.

I was told I was never going to graduate from high school or ever go to college.  They sent me to SEP  Orr in 1971 for one last experience of this "world."

As we all now know, it was an epic failure.  Not one single thing they predicted came true.  Herbert Armstrong was deep into collecting money to build his auditorium in Pasadena.  Jets were needed to fly the apostle around the world for yet one more final witness and push.  And still, nothing happened.  Church members went with their lives because we were told that God had delayed things so that the church could correct itself and a huge final witness could be proclaimed.

Of course this delay was all the member's fault.  We were not ready.  We were not 100% behind the apostle, the work, and many other excuses.

I think Neo's comment above is spot on as to why COG members that follow Pack, Flurry, Weinland, Thiel, and others will sit there, year after year, listening to them tell one whopper of a lie after another, and yet remain loyal.

I would add to that the teaching ingrained in COG members was the duty to remain true to the "one true church" that God had miraculously raised up.  We were taught to never question that belief and that to do so placed ones salvation at risk.  Thus, it is easier to sit there and chuckle at the absurdities of our COG prophets, knowing deep down they are fools, than it is take a bold leap and reject them as scripture commands.  How many times were we told, "God is in control and he will correct them when needed.  It is not up to us to question our leaders, they are only human, after all."

So what response to you have to this?

"Why does failed prophecy not
convince followers of the lack of integrity 
of the prophet and his/her theology? "

Monday, November 27, 2017

Why are signs and wonders wrong for others, yet important for COG Prophets?



Various Church of God prophets and apostles have claimed divine signs and wonders from their gods that they offer up as proof that they are legitimate conduits of their gods wisdom.

From William Miller to Herbert Armstrong and then on to Meredith, Pack, Flurry, Cox, Malm, Weinland, Thiel and many many others, these men all claimed their gods had revealed new truth to them as a warning to the church and the world. Hundreds of thousands of people believed them along the way.  Their gods sent them signs, performed wondrous miracles and all kinds of magical tricks in order to impress the people that these men were legitimate.

All of this men made a habit of mocking Christians outside their groups.  Other Christians are always wrong or are tools of Satan who uses them to deceive the world.  They are always wrong while COG leaders are always right.

Almost-arrested, self-appointed, Elijah, Elisha, Amos, Joshua, Prophet, Apostle, future martyr, Mayan authority, Chief Overseer and the bitter "son" Rod Meredith ended up wishing he had never had, is currently attacking the Eastern Orthodox church because they claim signs and wonders in their church history as do Catholics and some Protestants.

They are all wrong, but Bitter Bob's own signs and wonders are not.  The Church of God and his African members are supposed to believe that his god spoke to him in several dreams that set him apart as the new COG leader who was preserving 1st century Christianity.  Then he trots out a couple people elsewhere in the world that also had dreams about him as proof of his legitimacy.

He also likes to claim the laying on of hands by Gaylyn Bonjour was a direct sign from his god that it was imparting a "double" shovel full of the Holy Spirit into his being.  He and his African ministers are claiming direct spiritual wonders from their god that brought rain and performed other wonders recently.

The list could go on and on about the various signs and "proofs" he trots out to prove his legitimacy.  The same goes for Pack, Flurry, Weinland, Malm and others.  Their gods speak directly to them telling them many hidden things that the dumb sheep have never been able to see in scriptures.  COG members are supposed to swallow their utterances without questioning.

Not one single thing these men have uttered is of spiritual importance to any Christian.  Jesus is not coming to sit on Flurry's prayer rock.  Jesus is not coming to Wadsworth to walk with Pack as they plan his third coming. Weinland and his loony wife are not going to be killed in the streets of Jerusalem and then rise again 3 days later. Malm's pharisaical whoredom to the law proves that he prefers the "ministry of death" to that of faith. And all of his prophetic predictions and prophecies are a steaming pile of crap.

None of these men are men of integrity and spiritual goodness. All these men do is prove that the Church of God is horribly screwed up.




Sunday, November 26, 2017

It's hard being a prophet. I am weary of it all.



Ever since Ron Weinland was convicted of tax fraud and sent to prison for the biblical period of 3 1/2 years, his personality cult has never recovered.  Add to that the growing number of members who have abandoned him over the years since his 2008 prophecy failed in epic proportions.  Ever since then every single one of his prophecies that he boldly declared has failed.  Because of that and to gain face in the eyes of his deluded members, he turned all of these prophecies from "physical" actions that were to come about into "spiritual" fulfillment that are being currently fulfilled supernaturally.

In spite of that, he continues to loose hundreds and hundreds of members.  It has become so frequent that Weinland has become weary of having to write disfellowshipment letters week after week.  Pretty soon Weinland thinks he might have 100 members left.

With his membership dwindling and his probation soon to be up, Weinland may head off to Europe so he can claim to be in the center of things when he and his dingy wife turn into the two witless witnesses. Germany is the home of his daughter who many ex-members believe helped Ron launder his money and whom they believe has cooked the books for Ron's cult for years.

A significant number of revealing quotes in the latest sermon
> who get to a point where they’re not in awe any longer. I hurt for them, in one respect, but this is something that has gone on for so long. This process continues on.
> This process continues on. Since the Feast I am dumbfounded how much God continues to bring to the surface,
> This Church is being cleansed and the longer we go on, the more that takes place,
> We have a short time and yet God’s going to have His Church cleaned up. That ought to sober everyone to the core of their being. Will there be a hundred left before this is over? 200? 300? I don’t know.
> It’s just like different ones who continue to go by the wayside. Every year people go by the wayside.
> I’ll be candid with you; it’s just kind of wearing on me. It’s wearying. It’s wearing. It’s hard.
> It’s hard to continue to watch people go by the wayside. It’s hard to send people letters and telling them they’re suspended or disfellowshipped.
> This isn’t over with yet. People, some people aren’t taking this seriously yet.
> It’s wearying. It tears me up, and I hate it. I hate it. Almost every week it just keeps happening since the Feast of Tabernacles.
> Because I know it’s still happening. I know what’s still going on. God’s giving me a big dose of it today to see it clearly. Since the Feast, so many. From: Ron's commision recycled

Saturday, November 25, 2017

Do You Have Post Feast Depression? UCG Has The Cure



UCG Admits No One Wants To Climb Their "Ladder of Involvement"



United Church of God envisions itself as the paragon of truth that no one else gets quite as right as they do.  They believe this in spite of the fact their own brand of "new and improved" Church of Godism has never become the shining light for all of the Church of God to look to for Christian virtue.

From its embrace of embezzling bank managers, coddling ministers who got off sexually harassing women in the church, to encouraging members to lie under oath about a minister who was a stalker.  UCG's pure Christianity was so pure that it imploded several times since its inception, first with David Hulme splintering off and then with 174 ministers jumping ship along with thousands of brethren to form Church of God a Worldwide Association. Then the entire church watched as its chairman had to resign over "unchristian behavior".

Is it any wonder they struggle to appeal to the public as a place people would want to experience God?  Especially when it seems like UCG sees its journey for its members as progressive steps up a ladder. Who would even want to get on the ladder in the first place?

What "pearls of great price" does UCG possess that ANYONE would actually want to have?

UCG's ladder of progression has rungs that are broken or entirely missing as it worships the law over that inconvenient dude they are ashamed to publicly talk about.
I conducted a session that resulted in a lot of discussion, entitled: “First Contact Counseling.” The title suggests that our ministry may be given “leads” of people who take an interest in our proclamation message. The reality, however, is that we no longer have a line of people coming to us. We have to find them. We have to become “fishers of men.”
How can we reach out in the world where we live with the spiritual treasure and pearls of great price that we have acquired? We know that God calls people, but what role do we have in engaging them? We spoke of the “ladder of involvement” that all of us have climbed from first contact with the truth to committed membership through baptism. Is the ascent unimpeded from someone’s first exposure to God’s way all of the way up to engagement in the congregational environment? Do we provide the rungs needed to climb this ladder? Are the rungs solid, or are some broken? If the path is not clear, a person’s growth can stop.

Friday, November 24, 2017

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King Gerry, World Renown Advertising Guru, Soon To Start Advertising Campaign For Eilat Mazar



While King Gerry was in England recently, he took a jaunt to Israel in his new private family jet.  There he met up with Eilat Mazar, the leader of the archaeological dig that Herbert Armstrong College participates in.  King Gerry wants to write a biography of the woman because she is unknown to the world.  By doing so it will highlight the many biblical related discoveries she has overseen and it will give the new King of the Church of God more credibility.
On the flight to Tel Aviv aboard the Philadelphia Church of God’s corporate jet, Mr. Flurry emphasized to Mr. Macdonald the importance of having a much larger work in Jerusalem. His goal, he said, is to get the Church’s message to everyday Jews, who will be much more receptive than the elites. He also discussed writing a biography about Dr. Mazar to bring more attention to her many archaeological discoveries that prove the biblical history accurate. He also discussed building a small team (based at the pcg regional office in Edstone, England), similar to the one Steve Jobs supervised at the animation company Pixar, for the purpose of delivering a powerful warning message to modern Judah through the Internet, radio, publications and advertising.
In the King's ongoing attempt to imitate Herbert Armstrong, King Gerry is now claiming to be a highly skilled participant in the advertising field.  King Flurry wants to bypass the Jewish elite and direct his message about Mazar to the educated lower masses of Judaism and the rest of the world.  By doing this King Gerry will them be able to gain far more credibility, at least in his Kingly eyes, with the world at large.  Before he does this though, he needs to set into place a small dedicated team to get the message out.

With his outstanding and Kingly knowledge in advertising, learned at the feet of Herbert Armstrong, King Gerry is going write some of the greatest archaeological ads the world has ever seen.
At the meeting, Mr. Flurry quoted to Dr. Mazar something she had said in the past: “You need to have vision to do a dig in Jerusalem. You need to see the big picture of how things fit into the biblical picture. … Today’s archaeologists lack this vision, although many of the everyday people still hold it firmly in mind.”
Mr. Flurry then told Dr. Mazar that most of these “everyday people” still haven’t heard about her “sensational discoveries.” A biography mostly about her discoveries, coupled with an advertising campaign about those discoveries, would help change that, he said. Citing his past experience in the advertising field, he said, “I know from what experience I’ve had, that I could write some of the greatest archaeological ads you’ve ever seen.” Dr. Mazar enthusiastically approved his biography pitch.
Mazar is not as unknown as King Gerry likes to pretend.  See: The Ophel Treasure

New King of the Church of God Travels To England



God was busy working many miracles in October for the new King of the Church of God.  Now that Gerald Flurry has declared Herbert's prayer rock to be the new coronation stone and that he himself is the modern day King of the church, till Jesus returns to take possession of it, his God has been clearing the way with miraculous events.

King Gerry was ready to fly to England to visit his English campus at Edstone, when lo and behold, Satan attacked him and caused passport issues.  While all of this as being worked out, his god started telling the high altitude winds, that King Gerry's jet would be flying in, to increase their speed in order to let King Gerry's private plane be able to fly directly from Oklahoma to England without refueling!

Below is an excerpt from Grant Turgeon's slobberfest about the trip.  The most disturbing part is the last paragraph.  Visions of adoring crowds clamoring to get close to Jim Jones, Herbert Armstrong, and leaders of other cults come to mind.  The PCG faithful have totally swallowed Gerald Flurry's lie about HWA's prayer rock, its new significance and the fact that he is now the King that God is supposedly working through.

The sheer depths of spiritual depravity that Armstrongite leaders sink to is mind-boggling.

EDMOND—Philadelphia Church of God Pastor General Gerald Flurry made his first international trip on the Church’s corporate jet from October 10–19. He spent the seventh day of the Feast of Tabernacles and the Last Great Day in Warwickshire, England. Three days later, he flew to Tel Aviv, Israel, and met with Dr. Eilat Mazar in Jerusalem before returning home via England. 
On October 10, the sixth day of the Feast, Mr. Flurry left his home at 6 a.m. to drive to the private hangar in OKC. Due to a passport mix-up, he and his personal assistant, Grant Turgeon, had to return to the headquarters campus. During the 90-minute delay, Capt. James Gay adjusted the flight plan to make up the difference. Strong eastward winds allowed for a rare direct flight from Oklahoma City to Birmingham, England, and enabled Gay to eliminate a refueling stop in South Bend, Indiana. 
After an eight-hour flight, the Gulfstream G450 touched down in Birmingham around 11 p.m. local time. Mr. Flurry said that he felt energized following the trip, the result of near-zero turbulence at 43,000 feet and a cabin pressurization of just 6,000 feet (half that of a commercial flight). A cheerful group of about a dozen pcg members stayed up late to greet him at the private terminal. 
United Kingdom-Europe Regional Director Brad Macdonald and Edstone Foreign Language Translations staff member Emmanuel Michels drove Mr. Flurry and Turgeon to the pcg regional office at Edstone Hall in Warwickshire, arriving just before midnight, where they stayed at the apartment of the Stephen Flurry family. 
The next day, Mr. Flurry gave the sermon and then spent a couple hours speaking with most of the 300-plus members at the Feast site. 
“The brethren are always excited when Mr. Flurry visits, but I thought they were extra excited by this visit,” Mr. Macdonald said. “This was Mr. Flurry’s first visit to the region since the new revelation about his office. That understanding makes a conversation with Mr. Flurry extra special. Since the Feast, I’ve spoken with a few people who relayed how special it was for them to have a few minutes with Mr. Flurry, and how connected they felt to him. More than a few remarked on how warm and open and friendly Mr. Flurry was, and how in their conversations with him it felt as if they’d known one another for years and years.” Pastor General Visits England Feast Site, Meets With Dr. Eilat Mazar on First International Trip Aboard PCG Jet