Elijah Passover Dave is such a miraculous intelligent person that he marvels that people are not able to understand him. He's cut from a different cloth because he channel's Elijah's personality and humor! Just as Elijah was misunderstood, so is Passover Dave.
Elijah Passover Dave is such a miraculous person that no other human could have been his mother's child. Only Dave could be her son! Well DUH!
He was trained to be incisive, decisive, bold, aggressive, dramatic and definitive!
No other human in 6,000 years has come close to the stature and significance of Passover Dave!
Passover Dave says his nature is incomprehensible to God's people. Well....when a you are batshit crazy......of course no one understands you! One of you certainly IS enough! Even your own siblings and children don't support you, so why should anyone else?
Another personal point: for a long time I realize that I am not like most others, I'm cut from a different cloth – I've said that many times. I've at times wondered if God's people can understand me. In so many ways, brethren, I have Elijah's own personality. I have in humor, even mocked, in writing, the modern prophets of Baal as did Elijah. I even invoked his name – I've done that – I've been trained to be incisive, decisive, bold, aggressive, dramatic and definitive. It's my nature. You couldn't be my mother's son. But there are also other things. Think about who I have to address, who I have to deal with, who I have to go up against. Such men would not make good diplomats of this world. I think like Teddy Roosevelt, like David, like Joshua, and maybe even somewhat like Moses I guess. Mr. Armstrong and the ancient Elijah are of a particular nature that is somewhat incomprehensible to God's people. They are confronters, they are aggressive, they have to be and that's just the way I've always been. My superiors would often tell me, "You're too incisive, you're too decisive." Well, maybe I was when I was younger, but I know in some ways, some of us – I'll say myself – have a nature that is somewhat incomprehensible to God's people. I don't want people to be like me, one of me is enough.
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Can you say "diarrhea of the mouth?"
This is astonishing. Why would anyone stay with this guy. As for Dale Schurter, whatever his pecadilloes, I can't imagine there aren't warning bells going off in his head over this sewage.
The fact that Pack thinks about himself so much should be a warning to others that he simply has no time to think of them. Hardly a recommendation for a "minister."
I'm not sure, and certainly correct me if I'm wrong, but even ONE of him is too many. I'm not sure what cloth he was cut from, bu if there are any scraps of it left over, they should be thrown in the fire, just to be on the safe side.
No, no, no!
He's just like every narcissist I've ever met.
Next he'll pose for a group photograph.
Out of a paragraph of some 255 words, Pack uses the first person (my, I , me, myself etc.) over 30 times!
This is 12% of all of the entire message!
What a self absorbed, self loving, and self idolizing maniac!
I'm starting to draw parallels between Dave and Hannibal Lecter.
So often with these narcissistic types, there's something horrendous going on behind the scenes which you don't find out about until later. With HWA it was the incest.
I wonder what skeletons Dave is busy with in the closet—or the freezer!
More typical human gamesmanship! Sometimes people are genuinely eccentric because of their gifts and high intelligence. But, I've met other people who have mastered the art of making themselves weird, deliberately manufacturing a personna to make others believe that they are not understandable, and therefore "too" intelligent.
Intelligence manifests itself in a variety of diverse ways, but one is the appearance of effortless superiority. Also, many intelligent people can work both up and down the scale, communicating with the gifted, and the not so gifted. I would not classify Dave in either of these categories. I believe that he simply has no "ego filter". I've unfortunately seen behavior such as this before.
BB
How about divisive Dave. I think that was the word you were looking for. Freaking jackass! Wait, does that count as some type of attack on the most attacked man to ever live?
What most readers out there on the very wonderful blogosphere may not realize is that an irrational, hyperflated, Dave Pack style bubble does not exist by itself. There is an equally huge depressive, and negative bubble right below the surface, always accompanying the visible positive one. They are polar opposite components of the same episode, waiting for their particular turn in the cycle.
Even if someone is channeling something, as musicians are sometimes said to channel the music in a performance, there is often a huge post-concert crash, which is why hotel rooms get trashed. Or the energy from a stellar night of league bowling can keep one from sleeping until hours later when it subsides.
When you witness a series of extremes, it should set off cautionary flags, immediately. It can often mean impending danger.
BB
"Think about who I have to address, who I have to deal with, who I have to go up against"
So Dennis, has Crazy Davey taken you up on any of your debate challenges yet? I thought not.
Steve
Traits of a psychopath. Mr. Pack, please read this . Thank you.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199401/charming-psychopath
RCG members, read the article cited above about Psychopaths, sound like anyone you know? Face it you were not called by some god, you were singled out as are all others in your group because you were easily fooled by a psychopath who took advantage of you sincere desire to have an elite relationship with a god, and Mr Pack wants to be your god. It's not your fault, you were honestly seeking the truth. But Mr. Pack is the deceiver who he warns you about. And he has warned his followers about his ability to go all the way to totally trick you. He is becoming less and less stable. When he comes off of this most recent fantasy, he will again change the story and have you forget the things that he said. Will you forget it and, again, buy in to his next episode? How many times? And he will continue to demand money, for gods work. It is fruitless.
"But Mr. Pack is the deceiver who he warns you about. And he has warned his followers about his ability to go all the way to totally trick you. He is becoming less and less stable. When he comes off of this most recent fantasy, he will again change the story and have you forget the things that he said. Will you forget it and, again, buy in to his next episode? How many times? And he will continue to demand money, for gods work. It is fruitless."
AMEN! How many times?
Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme! (Sleepers, Awake!)
Why isn't the End Time Elijah more visible?
You have to tune in to the wacko WORD network at 2am to find "the Truth" squeezed in between millionaire hucksters like Joyce Meyer & Creflo Dollar.
Elijah Passover Dave Pack made a personal point of waking us up to understand that: "...for a long time I realize that I am not like most others, I'm cut from a different cloth..."
Well...
Psalm 94:11 says: The LORD knoweth the thoughts of man, that they are vanity.
So, Dave, just what different cloth were you cut from? Are your thoughts something else?
Genesis 6:5, before the Flood, says: And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
So, Dave, just what different cloth were you cut from? Do your thoughts differ from those before/after the Flood?
Genesis 8:21, after Flood, says: And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man’s sake; for the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.
Jeremiah 17:9 says: The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
So, Dave, just what different cloth were you cut from, if not from that one with a heart like that?
In the New Testament it is written:
Romans 3:10 "...There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17 And the way of peace have they not known:"
So, Dave, just what different cloth were you cut from, if not from above?
James 4:5 tells us, sealed Firstfruits, true Christians this:
"Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?"
So, Dave, did God inspire James to lie to us? Do you think that scripture was said/written in vain? Again, just what different cloth were you cut from?
Dave Pack, you have provided us with a lot of boastings about yourself and you do REJOICE IN IT like none others! If you are really cut from some different cloth, then what do you think about the following verse?
James 4:16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.
John
I met a traveler from an far flung land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Rise among the weeds. Near them beside a stand
Of trees, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive upon those lifeless ends and odds,
The mouth that mock'd and the swollen head.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Elijah Dave, ruler of gods:
Look on my campus, ye mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, the landscape is bare,
Except for the Giant Eagle across the way,
And across Akron Road the shopping center's still there.
"Elijah Passover Pack: I Am Unlike Any Other Human To Ever Exist! It's My Nature!"
That is not true. According to the Bible, there have been many other demon-possessed people, many other false prophets, and many other delusional people used by Satan to confuse and harm their own followers. It is the nature of each of these many very human disasters to think that they are special just because Satan and his demons are using them more than the average joker.
David C. Pack has not yet been granted great powers by God. All DCP has so far is his own energy and drive, and whatever power and authority he has taken to himself and claims to have. As for miracle-working powers, DCP is using what are known as “forward-looking statements” in his writings and preachings, that might not come to pass as he currently expects. God might not ever give him anything. DCP wrote a lot of interesting things in the past, and that is why many people listened to him. However, now that DCP has some followers, his more recent writings and rantings and ravings have taken a serious turn for the worse.
People who really want to know the truth should consider that maybe the undeniable (except by DCP) failure of DCP's August 31, 2013 Haggai/Zechariah prophetic scenario, followed by the failure of its rescheduled spring fulfilment, might be God's gentle way of letting honest and sincere people know that He is not behind DCP's fantasies, that He is not backing up DCP, and that everyone needs to beware of DCP before matters suddenly get much, much worse.
Notice that only various invisible and unverifiable and unprovable things are supposedly happening so far. Notice that DCP's recent story about a van passing through a semi-trailer a couple times undamaged was supposedly from a woman named something like Jill White. Notice carefully that her name was not exactly Lilly White. While it would be wonderful if there really were godly women in the RCG, from what I have seen of the type of women who attend the WCG/PCG/GCG/UCG etc., telling the truth is not their strong point. Deceitful and malicious lying is. Knowledge of the actual behavior of many WCG/PCG/GCG/UCG women suggests that, regrettably, it is much more likely that she stopped along the way to fornicate or commit adultery and then felt that she had to make up some lie to account for her being late.
Telling shameful untruths seems to be universal in the RCG, as everyone there has to prove everything DCP says for themselves from their own Bible, but then has to quickly change on command and prove the exact opposite from the Bible as soon as David shouts “Jump!”
An old joke about David Pack's sermons has him saying, "I have long believed, and even longer taught, what you are now about to hear for the first time."
John...don't use the bible to correct Dave. The bible just fuels his delusions and men like him don't take advice.
"Elijah Passover Pack: I Am Unlike Any Other Human To Ever Exist! It's My Nature!"
A TALE OF TWO CULTS
Once upon a time there was a rich old man by the name of David C. Pack who had personally gotten very rich and increased with many earthly goods by giving his followers the idea that it was good for them to turn over everything they had to him and to be poor and to have nothing. Being a rather irresponsible bunch who did not want to think for themselves or take responsibility for their own lives and actions, they went along with the plan without first seeking proper spiritual or legal counsel.
Being so much like just about every other religious-sounding con-artist who had ever existed, DCP used God's name to pull off the scam. But something troubled him deeply, and he wondered what was still missing from the picture.
Fortuitously, someone even greater than DCP appeared anonymously at a certain Blog and humbly advised him in a COMMENT that could be delivered to him by whichever one of his assistants was assigned by him to monitor the aforementioned Blog: “One thing yet you lack. If you want to be perfect, go and shout (again) at your followers to sell everything they have (again) and to send you all the money (again). Then, use it to buy a new Rolls Royce, and you will have prestige and status and treasure in Wadsworth. Since your employees and other cult members are all required to do compulsory “voluntary” work on the grounds of the compound to beautify it, they will already be out there to throw flowers onto the hood of your Rolls Royce as you are chauffeured past them around the grounds of the World Headquarters campus.”
This simple suggestion then became the downfall of DCP since--like so many other wild ideas that got lodged between his big, unhearing ears--he could never get it out of his head, and upon further investigation discovered that he actually had to own many Rolls Royces just in order to surpass some worthless Indian mystic, guru and spiritual bulldunger by the name of Osho who had owned about 93 of those overpriced pieces of junk.
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