If you re not a Philadelphia Church of God member your children have no chance in this lifetime. They are "cut off" from Flurry's god. Flurry's god is a pissed off god who is eagerly waiting to slaughter the children of non-PCG members. Of course the parents of "set apart"children MUST be truly converted PCG members. No slackers allowed or your children's lives will be at stake.
“While other people—not members of the true body of Christ—and all other children are cut offfrom access to God, your children—if you are a truly converted member of God’s Church—can believe in Christ—are not cut off from God—and much of God’s truth, even though as yet too young to be converted. But they are a special treasure to God!” Mr. Armstrong wrote in a September 1979 Good News article “Your Children—Future Gods?”Lil'Stevie has an incredible future laid out for the children of PCG members. Your children will be able to grow up and contribute to the church...financially, of course.
God has an exciting future ahead for His young people—a future of contributing to His Work through their education, their skills, their aptitudes, their interests, their faith and their prayers.Lil'Stevie, never one to have an original thought in his head (like his dad), has to continually quote Herbert Armstrong. Herbert Armstrong and Flurry's "god" is an impotent god because it allows the children of the church to be controlled by Satan. Satan's goal is to take COG kids from their parents so that they never make it into the kingdom of Flurry.
In another sermon, given on Oct. 15, 1981, Mr. Armstrong corrected parents for neglecting their children. They were just sending them off to school and letting the teachers take care of everything. “Let me tell you,” Mr. Armstrong warned, “Satan is not neglecting your children! He goes to work on them when they’re, well, a few days old. By the time they are seven-, eight-, nine months old, they already have been infused with the spirit of selfishness.”
Armstrong was a strong advocate of corporal punishment for church children. For decades beating children with a one inch think paddles was the norm. Children should be heard screaming from bathrooms. 20 swats was the norm. Of course after a parent beat their kids it was proper to tell the child that you did it because you loved them.“Satan isn’t neglecting your children,” he said again. “Are you? Too many of you neglect your little children. You think you don’t need to teach them anything. But Satan is getting into their little minds as fast as their minds develop.”
Lil'Steveie loves to quote from Herbert's Modern Dating, a sad little book written in 1969. It is now 2017 and PCG is still stuck in the late 1960's.
“Children who are in the Church of God are in a separate category, and they are not cut off from God, and it means that the parents can—if they will, if they do—they can counteract what Satan is doing,” Mr. Armstrong said in that 1979 youth camp sermon. “And just like the Spirit of God in Jesus counteracted it so that Jesus never committed a sin, parents can teach their children in such a way, and keep so close to them that they can more than outmatch Satan and all that Satan is doing.”
It is our job to help them come to recognize the harsh reality of Satan’s world. It is our job to help them see the incredible opportunities that come from living God’s way of life. It is our job to help them see that God’s Work needs them!
The lives of children in PCG are at risk. How many more need to be abused till parents wake up and remove their selves from the madness of the Philadelphia Church of God?The Modern Dating booklet states: “Yes, sadly, too few parents take an active interest in the really tremendous drives and compulsions placed upon their children in early school years. They just don’t talk to their children about their school lives. They don’t make it their business to find outabout their desires, hopes, dreams or emotional entanglements.
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Heh! Actually, you would want Flurry's "god" to ignore your children. That's not punishment, it's a reward! You also wouldn't want Flurry or any of the other ACOG leaders praying for you or your children. Better to have the real God involved.
BB
Herb was right that children are infused with a "spirit of selfishness." But this "selfishness" is of Gods doing rather than Satan's. It requires a enormous effort on the part of children to develop themselves. Hence self focus is required to reach maturity.
What Herb and his bootlickers are really saying is that people should throw away their lives serving hand and foot the lazy trailer park losers of the world.
They can't succeed through your own efforts, so they cheat by rigging the rules.
"Children who are in the Church of God are in a separate category"
I remember being told this bullshit growing up. Way to really mess with a child's development ("You're not like other kids...").
(Well, actually we in fact weren't like most other kids. Stuck in a charismatic personality cult, having to sit out school parties, explain why we suddenly brought matzos to school for lunch for a week, miss classes near the beginning of the school year for another week... the list goes on)
Kids really ought to be taught that, while everyone is unique, they are not special or "set apart" but need to function and work with others in society, hopefully contributing to the common good, and incidentally they will never receive special treatment and do not have some better destiny than everyone else, waiting for them because of their parents' religion.
Way to go keeping up the tradition, PCG
Quoting HWA for successful child rearing techniques????
There is no scripture that says the so-called philadelphians should be separated from the so-called laodiceans. It's all Flurry's sick and divisive interpretation.
The PCG complains they are ostrasized (persecuted) by "the world" but then they themselves ostrasize other converts even more than the world ostasizes any church people. Their members can have friends in the world but not in a "laodicean" group. What a bunch of ridiculous hypocrates.
Didn't Jesus teach about the wheat and the tares? They look alike until harvest time, then you can distinguish one from the other. To try to remove the tares prematurely, you might end up getting rid of wheat instead, plus, the roots are tangled together, causing damage to the wheat. The Laodiceans and the Philadelphians . . . let God sort them out at harvest time.
11.19 AM
'Don't be unequally yoked' does imply separating the Philadelphians from the laodiceans.
Notice how Malm claims that if a member marries outside the church, he/she is sinning since they are unequally yoked.
So if a Philadelphian marries a Laodicean inside the church, that is acceptable, but if a Philadelphian marries a winner outside the church, that is a sin.
This is plain rule rigging so that the losers can be married off to the winners.
Malm has confessed on his blog that his sons are morally challenged, so this rule rigging is hardly surprising,
I don't think it's that absolute anon 11:19. Don't be unequally yoked with unbelievers. What portion does light have with darkness or Christ with Belial. The Laodiceans and Philadelphians are both believers--not a light/darkness dichotomy. We have to move away from this all or nothing attitude. No one has it all "right".
3.09 PM
You must be kidding me. Their are many who attend church services who do not believe in the ten commandments. Christ mentions this with His 'why call me lord and not obey my commandments,' or 'they honour me with their lips but their hearts are far from me.' Let me remind you that demons are also 'believers.' A Christian is one who follows Christ. It is not necessarily one who attends church.
There are endless complaints on this site about abusive unconverted ministers eg Dave Pack. Are these really 'believers?' There are many people on the outside of the church who are more moral/'converted' than those on the inside of these churches.
Your narrow definition is self serving. The church abusers don't want to lose their victims.
I'm not sure which Anonymous I'm responding to, but I incorrectly labeled to whom I was initially responding and intended it to be Anon 1:36, but I saw the 11:19 at the top of that response and used that as my identifier incorrectly.
Anyway, all I intended was to say that I don't think a Laodicean and a Philadelphian is the same as the dichotomy of light/dark or Christ/Belial. Thus, I would not say they are unequally yoked because if they are a member of either ekklesia they would be believers. Not that I am into the whole church era teaching anyway.
I agree with the remainder of the comment and posts by the Anonymouses. Agree with your church abusers comment too.
You have to distill it down to the very basic. There are practicers of good, and practicers of evil. And various mixtures. We tend to either be like, or become like the people who are closest to us. Actually, even amongst Christians, there Is great diversity in thought and habit patterns. It is said that amongst the entire population of planet earth there are probably 200 others who are completely on the same page as ourselves.
There was a time, perhaps 35 years ago, when I realized that all of my closest friends were either practicing or former criminals of varying degree. It wasn't that I had set out to make that so. It's just that I'd surrounded myself with exciting individuals, and this meant that they didn't always abide by the standards generally set by civilized society. It was time for me to make some changes, to avoid future problems. So I winnied the worst ones out. This didn't mean that I suddenly began hanging with super straight people, or the goody-two-shoes crowd. I discovered that there are many constructive ways to be a non-conformist.
If you are going to be close to anyone, it should be people whith whom you share certain commonalities and goals, someone you can trust. You don't want to be involved in codependent relationships.
It's a hell of a thing to have a church that makes you a codependent to its insane leader, as opposed to being part of a group of people with similar beliefs. Unfortunately, in the case of an ACOG splinter, or the original WCG, we were all codependents. There's always a rude awakening that eventually comes with that!
BB
Satan said to Adam and Eve they would be gods too.
Hmmm
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