The Unknown COG Preacher
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Can your life be a waste? “Vanity of vanities” says the Preacher. Who wrote the Book of Ecclesiastes? When was it written? Do modern secular scholars disagree with the word of God? If you have more money, power, sexual opportunities, food, wine, and world renowned projects than any one else, could that be vanity, grasping against the wind? What should your priorities be? Is money evil? Is compromise acceptable? Does wisdom excel folly? Can sin be pleasurable? Does God have eternal pleasures for His people? Are you willing to have God’s priorities and live as He would have you live?That was all well and good to examine, but then the train wrecks, once again. From discussing the faults of vanity, our buddy moves into whether or not animals will be resurrected in the kingdom.
Will God’s Kingdom be everlasting? Will that you have been through help you for eternity? Are animals expected to be resurrected? Dr. Thiel goes through each verse of the first three chapters of the Book of Ecclesiastes, as well as scriptures in other parts of the Bible to help address these and other issues.Seriously, vanity and animals?
As has been pointed out many times here, our great Bawana seems to not have an original thought in his head but has to work off of old reprint articles and magazine articles of the old Worldwide Church of God.
I sure do love the booklet held in front of the face! Great work there buddy!
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But I want to know his view on the possible resurrection of animals!
Many years ago I had to give my view of this to my daughter. The cat that she had since three years old was dying.
I gave her my view on this - but was it the same as Dr Teal?
I need to know.
Pete Seeger's "Turn! Turn! Turn! (To Everything There Is a Season), whether you prefer the Seekers' cover version or the Byrds', can teach you more in four minutes than you can learn in an hour spent listening to Blabbering Bob.
Before you laugh this off as hyperbole, consider that the only lyrics Seeger actually wrote were the song's final words ("I swear it's not too late") and the refrain "Turn! Turn! Turn!" Yes, Seeger was actually preaching repentance -- urging his listeners to act on the words of Ecclesiastes 3, rather than just listen to them... and he was offering hope that doing so would make a difference. All of this in four minutes of making this ancient text come alive with a poignant effectiveness that none of Butthurt Bob's blathering will ever approach.
I honestly appreciate Bob Thiel for clarifying things. He shows so clearly what not to do.
I've been learning the do's and don'ts of content creation (and I have a lot to learn, believe you me); Bob's example fits solidly in the don't column.
"Who knows the spirit of the sons of men, which goes upward, and the spirit of the animal, which goes down to the earth?" (Ecclesiastes 3:21).
No resurrection for animals.
If animals can be ressurected, then there might be hope for Dave Pack!
Anonymous 7:50 AM quotes Ecclesiastes 3v21 to show no resurrection for animals.
Maybe try reading it in context:-
Ecc 3:19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
Ecc 3:20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
Ecc 3:21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?
It is saying that man and beast all die, that man has no pre-eminence above a beast, and they all go to one place.
The question is then asked, who knows if the spirit of a human goes one way, and an animal a different way, and the question isn’t answered.
You could say that this scripture is indicating that an animal has a spirit, imparting life to it. If that is the case, then it maybe has the potential to be resurrected at some point.
As the Bible has little else to say on the subject, it could be reasonable to conclude that there is no general resurrection for animals, however you might also conclude that God has the prerogative to resurrect a specific animal should He wish to, or if specifically asked to.
So maybe a beloved pet of someone could be resurrected in a future life for that person, if they particularly desired it. Obviously this is speculation.
I do like what Mark Twain said about the subject:- "Heaven goes by favour. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in."
A friend of my mother apparently said if her dog isn't in Heaven she doesn't want to go there.
I'm still quite willing to assist Bob with video editing, sermon scripting and staging. He can even pay me in seeds and used laptops. Arroyo Grande would be a great place to continue my study of the role of climate change in natural disasters.
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