Friday, July 5, 2019

The Behind the Scenes Monitoring of Members at the Feast back in the 1960s



From "Good News, August 1966"

In case you ever wondered the totalitarian authority state of the Church of God back in the "Glory Days", this article by Paul Royer should confirm it for you. Besides checking medicine cabinets in homes during ministerial visits, inspecting home cleanliness, and other police-state activities within the Church by overzealous "ministers" - check out exactly to what detail they monitored people who were attending the Feast. Monitoring was tedious, excessive, and unrelenting for all - children and adults alike. 

The "GN" reported that 6,139 People attended the Feast on October 17, 1965 at Jekyll Island. Of this amount: 

723 People got up and left the tent for one reason or another. Well, here's one thing the Festival Deacons were "ticking" on their little notepads and pencils! 

What else were they looking for and jotting down? Here's the scoop: 

Over 1,000 people left the tent during services the morning before.  Yup, they were watching!



94 who left were children and parents "from the Spank Room". 
Yes, there were spank rooms! 

One woman took her child out 15 times in one service...  Scribble, jot. You best believe her minister was informed! Think she got a talking to? 



223 went to the restroom. Could it possibly be that some of the material just wasn't appropriate, or they were sitting way too long for a Waterhouse message? 

82 mothers and children went to the mothers' room. 

324 were "milling about" outside the tent and the parking lot. 



"many" in their seats "not paying attention". 

"out of 7,042 registered, perhaps 4,000 were awake" 

During the Feast:

30 people went fishing. Ohh, let's watch and see what everyone is doing. Fishing rods! Jot, jot, jot. 

Others slept in their camp and in their rooms. 
Security found an adult couple sound asleep in the car. 
An elderly couple was seen shopping across the street during services. 
One young man was doing laundry listening to church on the loudspeakers. 
A car with three church members were in bathing suits leaving a motel just prior to services. 
Another family spent time in the motel room. The children were questioned as to why. 
Another family left services because they were corrected for bringing their dog against Armstrong's will. 
A deacon heard a member through the wall say "to hell with you, I need half an hour in the bathroom." 
One was smacking loudly on a piece of gum, fidgeting, and sighing. 


Everything you did and said outside of expectations was being watched and noted. 



The Festival Monitors were watching, spying, seeking, listening, reporting anything and everything they could find to the "ministers" that were not "in line" with the commands and authority of Herbert Armstrong and company. Adults were not treated as adults, but as privates and subordinates in a military camp. I'm pretty certain this level of scrutiny still exists in some of the splinters still in existence today.


Submitted by SHT

7 comments:

Tonto said...

It always is the old "blame the customer" and not the product routine.

IF... there were true healings, true speaking in other languages as a gift of the Holy Spirit, and true 100% of time prophetic predictions that came true, without any doubt, there wouldn't be ANYONE who would have missed this for anything!

Anonymous said...

Still goes on to this day. It's idolatry of power. Jealously of peoples freedom.

Goes on too at the feast. Thinly disguised as wanting to help you. But really wanting to control.



Anonymous said...

That's definitely a cultish mentality i.e. to surveil what people are doing, where they're going, who they're with. We can see this in Communist China with their use of technology to control their people. Unfortunately we're seeing it increasingly replicated in the West as well. I pity the next generation(s) who think all of this technological surveillance in this Orwellian dystopia is normal whereas in 1984 it was a real utopia in comparison!

Anonymous said...

Rod Meredith was rather open about the fact that he continued to use spies even in his own Global and Living Churches of God. He either didn't know or didn't care that some of his spies were so morally compromised that they would lie about other members' activities in order to gain favor with the boss.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the dorm rooms and classrooms were bugged. They can't have any open discussions of theology in the classroom or "heavy breathing" in the dorms.

SL said...

You aren’t kidding. I heard him say (in a Feast of Tabernacles sermon) that if you heard someone speaking I’ll of the ministry you should report it to the minister right away. I was utterly dumbfounded that he would so openly support that sort of tattling. Maybe that’s the reason they hide all of their recorded sermons and webcast behind passwords, and tell members from one congregation not to share local sermon recordings with brethren from other LCG congregations.

Anonymous said...

FYI here's link to the GN referenced in this post... it was informative to take a look at the rest of the magazine in addition to the article that was cited

http://www.herbert-armstrong.org/Good%20News%201960s/Good%20News%201966%20(Vol%20XV%20No%2008)%20Aug.pdf