This will surely set off the Great Bwana to Africa who claims he is the one preaching the truth and will soon be banned from Youtube and elsewhere.
It looks like Sheldon Monson beat him to it. Youtube has deleted his latest sermon on vaccines.
Monson, who had COVID earlier in the year and spent 5 days in the hospital with double pneumonia is an outspoken critic of the vaccines. He also claims he was healed of stage 4 cancer and therefore imagines in his mind that he would never die from COVID or cancer. After all, he has the best COG ever doing the best work the church has ever seen. It is certainly a reality that he is doing better than the Living Church of God and the improperly named "continuing" Church of God.
COG News is reporting:
Sheldon Monson writes 27th August 2021:
“Last week’s sermon on Will We Place Our Faith in a Vaccine or in God? was pulled from YouTube within an hour of posting the edited version. YouTube gave us a Red Flag citing that it violates their medical misinformation policy. If we post content that “encourages the use of home remedies, prayer, or rituals in place of medical treatment such as consulting a doctor or going to the hospital”, the video will be banned and you will receive a red flag. If we receive another red flag, YouTube will ban us from streaming for at least one week. We’ve known that this day would come, and have been preparing a back-up plan. Going forward we will begin including a link to LIVE stream on a platform called Twitch. It is a gaming platform, so it will look and feel a bit different, but most importantly we will not have a disruption in the regular streaming weekly LIVE services.”
He comments at the 28 minute mark that he had been healed of stage 4 cancer, and in January this year he was at home with Covid-19 for 10 days, then spent 5 days in hospital with double pneumonia, but he never thought that he would die.
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So he claims that he was healed of stage four cancer, but not of double pneumonia. That doesn't make sense.
Sheldon Monson may have started a trend here.
It may well become a ‘mark’ of honour to have one’s sermons banned by YT.
And therefore most highly sought after.
Come on Dr Bob, what are you waiting for. Post a YT sermon that will get a ‘red’ flag.
Recognition beacons and glory undoubtedly follows.
I know miracles do happen but sometimes they happen in secret and without fanfare. At times those who proclaim that they have had miracles seem to be sort of the variety one saw with the likes of Robert Tilton or Jim Jones and make one suspicious.
LOL doesn't he know that twitch is just as likely to ban him?
I do not know the name but he should switch to whoever is letting Alex Jones & Mr. Trump say whatever they want.
(I actually look at infowars.com just to see what crazy ideas are being pumped into peoples heads once and awhile lol)
I can't see consistency in his theology of healing. He says (if this is reported accurately) that God healed him of stage 4 cancer, and that we should have faith in God and not vaccines.
"'Cursed is the man who trusts in man... blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, and whose hope is in the Lord.' When it comes to this—sickness and disease—you have two choices: You can trust God; put your hope in God, for protection, for health, for healing even if you get sick; or you can trust in science and in man and their solution to the problem. God's pretty clear on what to do..."
"Are you going to bow down to God; are you going to place your trust in Him, or are you going to run to the vaccine of your government?"
But, apparently he had surgery for his cancer, according to this:
https://www.sabbathcog.org/20150516.htm
That source says, "While we had some of the best doctors in the world operating on him, it is obvious to us that God guided the whole process."
So, his personal actions in the case of intestinal cancer show he's not against making use of science and man, at least. But now he preaches against vaccines more vehemently.
God doesn't need the help of the medical profession to heal someone. How can he claim that God healed him if he underwent conventional medical treatments? Why didn't he rely on God to treat his cancer? God didn't need assistance to heal him. If he relied on doctors for the cancer treatment, why not also use the vaccine?
"Will We Place Our Faith in a Vaccine or in God"
What a pitiful false dichotomy.
You can believe in God and *still take the goddamn vaccine*.
Just like you can believe in God and still buckle up when the flight attendant tells you to, for your safety and that of others.
In the 1980s, even students at AC were administered MMR vaccines, under the direction of the Administration, because many of us having been born or raised in the church in the 60s hadn't had our freaking shots when we were supposed to because of the church's policy at that time. This was a decision by the WCG leaders, belated though it was, so there's your "church authority" if you need it.
Any of these nuts telling you "trust God not the vaccine" don't have a freaking clue about anything, you can safely just ignore them.
"Will We Place Our Faith in a Vaccine or in God?"
The Armstrongist view of this issue has always been confused. While the question above has merit, we should also ask if one should place their faith in "the use of home remedies, prayer, or rituals in place of medical treatment such as consulting a doctor or going to the hospital” or in God. If one defines faith as purely trust in God with no secondary agents involved, then neither vaccinations nor home remedies fall within the pale of faith. If someone is going to place their trust in naturopathy, why not just get vaccinated instead?
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Let them keep spouting their craziness and get themselves banished from these forums - their ability to infect others with their foolishness is thus greatly diminished. This is a blessing!
I got the vaccine, and my brother-in-law didn't. I'm still alive, and he's not. The overwhelming weight of the evidence demonstrates that these vaccines are SAFE and EFFECTIVE for the vast majority of folks who have received them. If you want to listen to the Sheldon Monson's of the world, you are free to do so; but you are not entitled to endanger the rest of us!
We have people who are up-to-date on their measles, mumps, rubella, diphtheria, pertussis and tetanus vaccinations who have folded their arms and pursed their lips like a willful child and are refusing to get this vaccine! We have folks who habitually wear their seat belts who absolutely refuse to wear a mask! We have folks who would rather ingest a horse wormer than take this vaccine. Come on folks, Christians are supposed to have a sound mind!
As for faith, do you remember Satan's temptation of Christ? In the gospel of Matthew, we read: "Then the devil took him to the holy city, Jerusalem, to the highest point of the Temple, and said, “If you are the Son of God, jump off! For the Scriptures say, ‘He will order his angels to protect you. And they will hold you up with their hands so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.’ Jesus responded, “The Scriptures also say, ‘You must not test the Lord your God.’” How do you think God and Jesus are going to respond to "I didn't wear a mask or take the vaccine because I knew you would protect me from the virus. I was depending on your promise to protect me from harm!"
As noted above, Sheldon has shown himself to be quite the hypocrite.
Where was his earlier sermon, Will We Place Our Faith in Knives or in God?
Actually, Sheldon probably had chemotherapy in his cancer treatment, which makes his earlier conduct even worse. The sermon we need from him is: Will We Place Our Faith in Chemotherapy, or in a Vaccine, or in God?
A man who will ravage his body with poisonous chemo but will not give his body the illness-fighting aid of a vaccine is either a raging hypocrite, or a man who has no discernment or understanding.
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. If one defines faith as purely trust in God with no secondary agents involved, then neither vaccinations nor home remedies fall within the pale of faith. If someone is going to place their trust in naturopathy, why not just get vaccinated instead?
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Excellent point and observation.
Read what Monson is saying about this, and it's chilling. He sincerely believes that his faith will keep him safe from death. That sounds innocent on the surface, but what has really happened is that Monson has accepted the serpent's lie: "You shall not surely die." He thinks he is invincible, and will think so until his hubris has put him at death's door with one illness or another.
1054 AM Said "That source says, "While we had some of the best doctors in the world operating on him, it is obvious to us that God guided the whole process."
I feel sorry for skilled doctors and surgeons who spent 16 years learning the trade only to have religionists give the gods the credit for "guiding them". I believe they did just fine themselves and the gods don't have to meddle in such trivialities.
Like Bart Simpson said, "We paid for all this stuff so thanks for nothing" lol
In his sermon, Monsoon says that God is punishing America with Covid. But the ones suffering and dying are the arrogant anti-maskers, the ignorant and hateful anti-vaxxers, and the slothful people who have put off being vaccinated. The vast majority of everyone vaccinated is doing pretty good. So I would ask him, who is God punishing again?
I don't believe this but someone could make a case that three anti-mask, anti-vaccine, conservative talk show hosts who have died recently could be a sign. Their rhetoric no doubt influenced many to be irresponsible and die. Mr. Monsoon will responsible for all the resulting deaths in those he misleads. It is so sad the amount of idiocy we now see in our country.
Stephen Schley I love infowars, literally you have good information promised. Alex Jones will not let you down. keep watching patriotic brothers unite!
Happens all the time.
He was red flagged before Sheldon but whatever.
Is using "BACTINE" and "VICKS VAPOR RUB" a lack of faith?? Inquiring minds need to know!
If he really thinks it's a curse to "trust in man" and human things, he'd better not lock his car door or his house.
Hey Anonymous@ 0403. I am a ICU/surgery/ER RN with 25 years experience. I admit the covid vaccines are imperfect but if you had seen what I have seen, you would know it would be best to take preferably take the Pfizer or moderna vaccine rather than the risk of covid. I have also been associated with the CoGs since my early childhood. It may not prevent you from getting covid, but it will moderate the severity of your symptoms. Greater than 95% of our covid cases in ICU are people who did not get the vaccine.
There is a medical "consensus" only because dissent results in harsh penalties. NUMEROUS doctors complain of censorship. What kind of science is that? This is no different from the Catholic church censorship of Galileo. Youtube, Google, FB, Twitter are all just as oppressive and anti-science as the Catholic church was 500 years ago. The stupid bible is actually more medically accurate because only those with symptoms were quarantened in the bible. Asymptomatic people can't transmit anything.
If you are under 45 you have a greater chance of death from lightning than from "covid".
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Hey, guys! You are not going to convince the antivaxxers, antimandate people, antimaskers, Covid deniers, or people who believe conspiracy theories about the vaccine of their folly. Let them be. They've dug in their heels and have positioned themselves to be part of the gene pool cleansing. Actually, most of them are probably faking their position here because they have a perverse need to argue just for the sake of arguing. Good for us because there will be fewer of them to fight the new civil war!
Greater than 95% of our covid cases in ICU are people who did not get the vaccine.
September 1, 2021 at 6:19 PM
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So then, why does this study say the opposite?
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/harvard-epidemiologist-says-case-covid-vaccine-passports-was-just-demolished
Why does West Virginia Governor Jim Justice say ‘We have seen a 25% increase in deaths of people who are fully vaccinated over the last 8 weeks’???
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/we-have-seen-a-25-increase-in-deaths-of-people-who-are-double-vaccinated/
In the last 18 months, several hundred thousand Americans have died either "of" COVID or "with" COVID. Anti-vaxxers like to make much of the ambiguous numbers who died "with" COVID. They like to remind us that dying "with" COVID isn't an actual COVID death.
In the last 6 months, more than a million Americans have died of all sorts of causes, from old age to cancer to heart disease to COVID. We're reaching the point at which a majority of Americans who die are dying "with" a COVID vaccine. But notice the deception of the anti-vaxxers, who often tell us that dying "with" a COVID vaccine is the same as dying "of" that vaccine.
God tells us to weight our measures fairly. Whether through ignorance or deception, many anti-vaxxers are judging COVID and COVID vaccines by contrary standards, relying on emotion rather than fact to minimize the real risk of COVID while maximizing the imagined risk of the vaccines.
The truth of the matter is that vaccinated people are FAR less likely to end up in a hospital or to die of COVID, when compared against the unvaccinated. But the public reaction to COVID and vaccines should drive home the importance of recent studies showing that the USA is near the bottom in math literacy in developed countries. Our education system has taught Americans how to feel, not how to think.
Anonymous said: "Hey, guys! You are not going to convince the antivaxxers, antimandate people, antimaskers, Covid deniers, or people who believe conspiracy theories about the vaccine of their folly. Let them be."
I vividly remember some comments in the teacher's lounge one day long ago. One of my coworkers observed: "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink." And another said, "True, but you can hold their head under that water until they've drowned!"
If we fail to confront this nonsense, we give it legitimacy. This isn't just a typical difference of opinion!
In the late 1970s, HWA stated in a WN article that he was not strictly forbidding anyone from medical treatment. Then he added that "those who don't have enough faith" may have to rely on doctors.
Although I wasn't around then, I understand Joe Tkatch softened the severity of the "healing" doctrines...
Tonto wrote "Is using "BACTINE" and "VICKS VAPOR RUB" a lack of faith??"
Like most things, it depends. The answer is that it depends on what your model of faith is. If you believe in faith with no secondary agents then the use of anything as a therapy veers away from the purity of simple belief. This extreme position is given much lip service inside Armstrongism. People say things like "Are you going to trust a vaccine or trust in God?" creating a dichotomy that does not really match their emprical behavior. Armstrongists do not typically follow the model of pure, simple belief. I might add, "thankfully."
To see the validity of this argument you need only consider that Armstrongists have traditionally relied on all kinds of supplements, vitamins, herbs, chiropractors, exercises and diets to deal with bodily maladies. The science supporting most of these therapies is thin. This is in addition to annointing and prayer. All of these physical measures subvert the position of pure and simple faith. The Armstrongist view should not be classified as a purist pro-faith view but as an anti-medical-science view.
Armstrongists believe in secondary agents; it is just that the secondary agents they believe in are not traditional medical agents but are alternative medical agents. I believe that this stems from HWA's creation of a novel category of sin called "physical sin." This category is what medical science would simply call "poor health practices." In HWA's model phyiscal sin is treated by faith but also physical remedies.
Arguing naturopathy as a godly approach in comparison to medical science, does not fly. Pennicillin is produced by a mold. It is a natural product. It even occcurs in cheese. Yet I have met Armstrongists who would not take antibiotics. Vaccines use all natural products in their active principle (there may be man-made preservatives involved). They rely on the body's natural immune response. Conversely, some natural supplements can be really bad for you even though they are hyped by naturopaths. Being "natural" is no some kind of ecclesiastical imprimatur. The value of secondary agents is found in the science not in their spiritual status.
This is getting long ... Maybe you can ask the Lone Ranger about the rest of the story.
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If we fail to confront this nonsense, we give it legitimacy. This isn't just a typical difference of opinion!
The problem is that our crappy educational system has left tends of millions of Americans UNABLE to understand the flaws in their logic and analysis. Like the post up-thread which clearly shows not only a failure to understand what the VAERS data is, but even a failure to read the VAERS site's own disclaimers, which point out that correlation is not causation and that most reports do not indicate an actual vaccine-related event. The anti-vaxxers are either simpletons or miseducated fools who don't recognize the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. The best way to resolve the discussion is to let the idiots catch COVID, see that they were mistaken, and then die while begging their friends not to make the same mistake.
I have been shooting features on the pandemic for the past year and a half for various organizations. I have interviewed a parade of exhausted doctors and nurses in the process.
I don't care if people don't want the vaccine. That's fine. Maybe foolhardy, but I at least understand the hesitancy due to the amount of seemingly mixed info out there.
What I've come to detest are the double-dippers who spend so much time flinging around silliness about secret payoffs to medical staff, "population control" paranoia and random quotes from podiatrists, opthamologists and diploma-mill PhDs pretending to be ID docs, but then these same people develop severe symptoms and want to go to the hospital. That is unethical to me. But I have interviewed many of those in the past month and they're still coming.
It was tongue in cheek, Miller. Actually these groups I named are the reason we are still in an ever worsening pandemic. I call them "plague enthusiasts".
Gary, I appreciate your open comment policy, but I do ask you to reconsider allowing such rampant medical misinformation and blatant falsehood. It is costing people their lives through COVID denialism, vaccine rejection, and magical, conspiratorial thinking. Freedom of speech is a good thing. Giving a platform to dangerous, coordinated misinformation is not.
Hi ER RN,
Thank you for your input. I believe people need to make an educated decision regarding vaccines. If I may ask you, what are the ages of those you generally see in ICU? Further, what is their health? I'm hoping you can give some good info without bias. Bias is hard to avoid; it may be that you were previously so accustomed to the ICU filled with those over 70 that you might notice those 50-64 more heavily. But, that is my question, what of those 50-64 as I believe they are the group that needs info the most. Those 45 and under should not get the vax generally and I believe those 65-70 and older should strongly consider it.
I know that the CDC shows the number of those in the 15 year span of 50-64 are dying in similar number to the 10 year spans of those 65-74 and 75-84 since the latest spike. Vaccines have helped these older populations (at least short-term). But are those 50-64 of poor health generally? Or under hBP medication or heavy? your accurate answer to the best of your ability would be appreciated. Thanks.
Don't place your faith in the Bible go get your vaccine.
I love how all of these vaccination/covid know-it-alls spew such ignorant garbage. I work in a hospital ER and I can tell you that 95% of the things said here against covid and the vaccines are complete lies. What more should I expect from COG members who have been so consumed by conspiracy theories over the decades and when we have idiots like Bob Thiel and Gerald Flurry saying the ignorant things they are. Bob Thiel is NOT a medical doctor and should not be saying the things he is. He is setting himself up for a malpractice lawsuit if he continues on doing this.
Why would they be mutually exclusive?
"Gary, I appreciate your open comment policy, but I do ask you to reconsider allowing such rampant medical misinformation and blatant falsehood. "
What things I have let through are mild compared to some of the crap sent in. Those went into the spam folder. Every time I post something related to COVID in the COG's I hesitate because I know what dumb things will be said. This blog has been hit with hundreds of spam posts lately. There are close to 140 spam posts sitting there right now.
For what it is worth, the facts I stated are on the CDC site. My thoughts on ages for the vax are based on discussions with a frontline medical doctor who treats covid patients and said he recommends the vax for most anyone over 50. But, not for the young. He believes our masking is of no real benefit. He is fit but always gets the flu shot, so not an anti vaxxer at all. He does not recommend the vax yet for those that have actually had covid already, but may recommend as time goes by. Another Dr. I've consulted with would up the age for the shot to 55-60, but all recognize it provides protection from delta, but the reason they do not recommend for all is that they believe it does damage our general immune ability. Sorry, these are frontline people that are as knowledgeable as anyone else and they are not saying everyone should take the vaccine. There are pros and cons whether you like it or not.
Can anyone say that age and health should not play into the equation? Does anyone really think some vitamins/nutrition, exercise, and proper sleep do not improve how you would respond to covid? I've had back issues and tried some of the dr. recommended solutions, but it was chiropractic and heavier weights and unadvised exercise movements that resolved the problem. Just an example. I know plenty of people that have gone the alternate route for daily healthful living and are healthier than 95% of the population due to it (at least in part).
If someone wants to jump on the vax and medication train at the first suggestion, I suppose that's your right. But, there are alternatives or complementary practices that might do you better.
Got vaccinated and am happy.
Spent near 30 years in the cog movement, tried all the alternatives for medication and for illness and spent heaps of hard earned cash on them. Oh I had faith they would work but…….
Nothing worked.
But the doctor and the medications prescribed did.
And a hell of a lot cheaper also.
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HWA and his lapdog ministers couldn't agree more. Gary should not be giving a platform to dangerous ideas.
"Don't place your faith in the Bible go get your vaccine."
Don't place your faith in either. Investigate both sides.
I’m glad anytime something works for someone. And, I totally support anyone’s decision to get the vaccine particularly if over 50. I question in my own mind someone healthy under 40 getting the vaccine, but everyone has to make their own decision. Met with a group of friends including two dr friends one different than the two I mentioned previously who recommends vaccinations for those over 40 and maybe less. He recognizes the pros and cons, but under 40 years old seems excessive. I see from the cdc those under 40 are just over 1% of those that have died. My main point is that you have to use your own critical thinking at some point when so little transparent info is being given. Again talking to my dr friend who advises that most over 50 should get vaccinated he told me that of the 24 on ventilators 22 were unvaccinated. Pressing him on this he also admits these were all either quite heavy (35 or more bmi) or old. So again, it seems not everyone needs to be forced into vaccinations.
This same dr writes articles on the topic and when I pointed out that the vaccinated have been responsible for a lot of the spike, he said of course for 5 days their nose and throat have as much as someone with full blown covid. He’s not criticizing, but thems is just the facts. He readily recognizes that fact has been played down. But, he is still pro vaccine for the over 50s.
I guarantee my position is better and more nuanced than the fauci types that at the very least think they have to tell everyone to get the vaccine because of little trust in Americans making good decisions with full into. Little do they know that this is making people doubt them more and is counterproductive.
Hi Y'all,
sorry this is long.
I did the faith thing last Mar. like a good ex-acog and since I could manage to breathe on my own I rode it out, got long haul covid & asthma so I decided even if the anti-vaxers where right and it would jack me up later I got my 2nd Pfizer shot July 25th waited so long in the hopes that the j&j shot would pan out but I have too much clotting issues to take it.
Did I want the vaccine? No
where the consequences bad enough to get it? Yes
on masks? I knew over a decade ago masks would hit america sooner or later since the smart asians have not been going anywhere without a mask since the bird flu of the first few years of this century.
as for science vs natural vs pure faith issue? well God did give man minds to learn things he put into the universe so as a jedi once said when asked u told me u killed my father & the response was when your father became vader the man I knew died so what I told u was true, from a certain point of view.
I have learned since exiting acog a lot of things are true from a certain point of view. Something I was taught was wrong headedness but is true.
Why are there so many colors of gray in nature if not to show us that the universe isn't so cut & dried as those that get in the way of people talking to God might think
Stephen :(
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Wow, to be banned by "Banned"?
You people who condemn Armstrong practices now want to enact those same practices? Now it's no misinformation allowed, censorship of differing opinions, no commentary that contradicts the doctrine of the apostle Gary and deacons Anon.729 and 1001?
I know this site is your CHURCH so you can do what you want,but how quickly the dog returns to its own vomit!
4:14 I hear you on the too many alternatives route. My thought is generally, "is there an alternative to a medication? Can I do something now to help?" Most of us can improve our lives with a little exercise, a little better eating, a little weight loss, a little stress management. If I got a cancer diagnosis, I would cut back on all sugars (unless needing to gain weight) and discuss the course of treatment the Dr prescribes and do it. It is not an either/or issue. Plenty of grays as Stephen Schley said.
Sheldon is delusional, with a low I.Q. When the scriptures say beware of wolves in sheep's clothing, and of those who come saying I AM, he is the type it is talking about. These are the types of people you have to be aware of. They are falsely spreading misinformation, causing those who follow them to be lead astray. I would be so worried if I were the "sheep" in his flock. I clearly see Satan's influence within Sheldon. He left and started his own Church. Why would ANYONE in his or her right mind follow a leader like this. Look at Pack, Flurry, Theil??? It is written on the wall about him. He will come out and say...wait for it..."I knew the time was coming when those would try to shut us down, when we would be censored. But wait, I have a plan". Sheldon, away with you, away with Satan. I pray for those who foolishly follow you. Those who were in their right mind, those who were called and on track, but now are off following false teachers.
Oh, BTW Sheldon had chemotherapy too.
According to this CDC article:
For the purpose of this surveillance, a vaccine breakthrough infection is defined as the detection of SARS-CoV-2 RNA or antigen in a respiratory specimen collected from a person ≥14 days after they have completed all recommended doses of a U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-authorized COVID-19 vaccine.
If a person tested positive or died because of COVID less than 14 days after the 2nd shot, the infection is not counted/classified as breakthrough case.
I remember a time when the Republican party was the preferred party of the intelligent.
This is what I cannot stand about Sheldon. He is arrogant and a hypocrite. He received surgery and chemo for his cancer, he went to the doctor after a stick hit his eye and blinded him, and he went into the hospital to be treated for pneumonia last year. So, he is willing to accept treatment on his terms, but feels the vaccine it the mark of the beast? Remember the whole aspect of the way he started his own church is based on the virus and vaccine...and DO NOT wear masks, because you are defiling God. So, in my opinion, that is the only thread holding his church together, where you have a bunch of crazies coming together for the same thing. If it was not for the virus, they would have nothing to hold onto. Crazy feeds crazy.
If you get banned on YouTube you probably said something RIGHT or said something TRUE that doesn’t fit THEIR narrative!! Hats off to Sheldon!! đź‘Ťđź‘Ť
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Sheldon is delusional . . . He left and started his own Church.
Not true. Monson was fired. He refused to implement the covid protocols commanded by LCG's HQ. One such protocol was that singing was prohibited. The congregations were to play the hymns, open their hymnals, stand, and sing the hymns in their head with masks on. "God will hear". Monson knew this was absurd, and after administering the covid-free summer camp, he wasn't going to do it. Psalm 91 makes promises. Hebrews 10:25 has expectations. Monson chose to follow God, rather than follow man. He had a secure job. He was on the LCG council of elders. He was in a position to serve and help people. But he risked it all to obey and trust God. Maybe it would just be him and his family. So be it. Call Monson a fool if you want, but better to look foolish for following God, than to follow the "wisdom" of men.
5:57,
It still is. I also remember when the progressives had their bumper stickers "Question Authority". It seems the progressives only question Christianity and the U.S. founding/white old men anymore.
The vaccine is unethical on every level…and precisely why Monson expresses why this is not an acceptable form of medical treatment. Not to mention the actual effectiveness of it, the protection it provides, and the possible lasting side effects. Just like everything, most on this blog blast everything OUT OF CONTEXT.
The resistance to vaccination is decreasing, and more and more people are taking Covid 19 seriously and are getting vaccinated. I believe we are turning the corner. Politicizing the disease and vaccination has caused a delay in eradicating this coronavirus, and the delay created the opportunity for many variants to emerge.
Think tanks have pondered existential threats, and how to deal with them for decades now as more of them have surfaced over the years. According to one article which I read probably fifteen years ago, the existential threat which scientists fear the most is one which plays out so rapidly that scientists do not have time to collect data and develop a response to a sudden threat so serious that it could erase all of the progress that humans have made throughout history, taking out those with the knowledge necessary to launch a recovery, consigning us to a stone age existence with no way back.
I find it ironic that the ignoramuses who elected a president that mustered all the available forces to produce a vaccine in record time, and who know that their president contracted the virus himself and availed himself of the best medical treatment, recovering and and later actually taking his own vaccine are the very ones who have become militant against vaccination, mask-wearing, and mandates. It makes no sense at all. One would have anticipated that they would have been spearheading the drive for 100% support for the vaccines. Instead, they have grasped at straws, not knowing the difference between valid research, and second or third rate sensationalist propaganda, thinking that they are supporting the former president's agenda. They also selfishly cite their personal freedoms, and hold them above the world's freedom from a deadly disease.
These people are missing a principle we all learned in driver's ed back in high school, i.e., "You can insist on your right of way right up to the point where it kills yourself or others."
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Thanks for the comment. Fauci and Pfizer couldn't have said it any better!
10:52,
Maybe that which you find ironic regarding those you call ignoramuses is because they are not politicizing the issue as you think and don’t believe Trump’s support of the vaccine makes their decision for them. Maybe these ignoramuses think more for themselves than you think. Maybe it is you that cannot fashion a reasonable explanation because you are just parroting the “politicization of the issue” and then call it ironic based on the media assertion you have accepted. It was biden and harris who politicized the issue in 2020 if you recall. Maybe the ignoramuses simply don’t trust a vaccine that has been rushed through testing and long-term effects are not known to their satisfaction.
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