Another love bomb tonight:
Mark Fike commented on "Gerald Weston…Oh, before I forget, let me add this..."
My name is Mark Fike. I am a member of COGWA. I've read the garbage that you people post here and it is all LIES! I know for a fact that people such as Dennis is a reprobate who couldn't stay in the church because he couldn't stay true to the Word Of God. I doubt any of you were ever real saints of God.
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That guy needs psychiatric help.
Sorry, Mark, there are probably more saints here than in all of COGWA!
What is telling here is the accusation without providing a timeline of documentary evidence to back up the claim.
Why Mark, I'm surprised at you! What a rude 'tude, dude! You're not supposed to call us liars. You're supposed to take a deeper interest, lovingly and gleefully machine gunning scriptures at us! As Bob Dylan once sung, "You gotta serve somebody!"
Ucg bitterness.
Who's Mark Fike ?
11:22....I know him. He's a nobody in COGWA.
It would be best if everything posted here was false. I can tell you as a person with a history in the CoG's going back to the early 70's that many or even most of things posted are unfortunately true.
I bet he'll be approached by his church for posting on an evil "dissident" site. He will be reminded that he's opening a door for Satan and his demons to undermine his faith and whisk him out of the one true church.
Naughty, naughty boy.
I hope Mark will share his opinion with us - each time he can identify a specific lie - especially when people post scriptures that refute COG beliefs.
If Mark does not care to comment on specific instances in which he feels someone lied, I hope he will keep reading.
I have prayed for Mark to find the truth.
And yes Brethren, Admittedly, I am a reprobate with reprobating tendencies. Indeed, I did reprobate. Reprobation has always been a challenge in my personal experience with the Church of God. In my defense, reprobaters were not uncommon. It's the ones that swear they have never reprobated and don't reprobate that make suspicious of such claims on their part. Personally, I think reprobation is a huge part of the human experience in Church.
Yes, yes, Dennis, we know. You are a master reprobater!
If Mark does not care to comment on specific instances in which he feels someone lied, I hope he will keep reading.
I have prayed for Mark to find the truth.
Mark is already a rebel in rebellion against his church leaders who preach that COGWA members shouldn't come here. He has already taken the vital first step away from the ACOG BORG. Good for him!
"you people"
This rings hollow. There is a great diversity of viewpoints represented on this blog, including the dedicated Armstrongist viewpoint. Classing everyone together for condemnation just does not work. And this blog is a place of debate. If someone tries to palm off a lie here it usually doesn't work. Someone else will mount a spirited rebuttal.
ἀδόκιμος (adokimos), translated reprobate in the KJV, means failing to meet the test - like a coin that is supposed to be gold but is not. People that come to this blog have to eventually understand that what they write will be tested. This blog is not really a place that is inviting to reprobates. You find this mostly in tightly governed congregations where everything sounds scripted, including questions.
In fact, what you find here in this give-and-take environment is a atmosphere that is more conducive to ferreting out the truth than what you will find in little autocratic denominations where information is tyrannically controlled - where all contrary views are eliminated, whether constructive or not. Where people sit around glassy-eyed and with faces bearing perfunctory smiles singing "All is well, all is well with my soul..."
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But sites such as these are run by rebels from within the ministry. Mere members are not the ones inventing such blogs. So why don't the 'church police' sort that out.
Whilst I don't agree with Dennis on many matters I totally agree with him on ' reprobates were not uncommon. It's the ones that swear they have never reprobated" comment.
At least Dennis is honest about his opinion others live deep deep in the reprobates closet. Unwilling to be honest but denying the truth of the situation. Don't be a reprobate stumbling block. Be honest for once .
Take a HIKE... FIKE!
You need to work off some energy!
Mark Fike is an elder who fled to COGWA to "stay true to the Word of God" even though the Word of God says, "You shall not make a schism (a schism which UCG deserved by the way if you know what I mean)". (1 Cor 12:25)
Malm's website has some testimonies about his part in some scandal in the Reno, NV church a while ago. Not a good read... groan.
Almost every time our elders speak they put their foot in their mouths, even the ones who have lesser sins.
The tribulation is coming soon. Most of us deserve it.
Everyone has sinned, including the righteous. But a reprobate by contrast is someone who has become so hardened by sin that they see no need to change. This is the norm with bullies for example.
So Dennis's claim that everyone has reprobated is not true, and is a self serving delusion to bolster his self esteem.
Ooh, a Church of God minister, I'm shaking scared. Get, thee, hence from me!
Well, Mark, all I can say is what a fine loving Christian manner you just exhibited for us reprobates. This really wants to make us all come back to church. Thank you for putting us back on the path to be as righteous as you are. COGWA must be so proud of you.
If Fike is a prime example of COGWA ministry then I am glad I am not part of that group. There is enough nastiness in the world than to have to deal with in a church setting.
In searching briefly about Mark Fike and reno...typical stuff, I saw where Jim Franks of COGWA was saying how much money they now have. He points out two major donations.
The first a church in oregon who shared space with the Cogwa church there. This other church owned the building and as there numbers dwindled very low they decided to give the building to COGWA.
The second is a man who really respected his sister and brother-in-law and gave his money to COGWA in the name of his brother-in-law.
This is all framed as, "See, we in cogwa are so good others are giving us money." And while it is great that these people in COGWA made a good impression, I am reminded that it is more blessed to give than to receive. COGWA doesn't seem to give much gratefulness to the actual givers, just their own goodness proved by receiving.
COGWA on the other hand would never consider giving a building away to someone else or donating a sizable portion of their budget to anything outside their church. Again, it is better to give than to receive.
Just a little side note, mark fike’s wife, is the daughter of Jim Chapman a longtime worldwide, then UCG, then cogwa, now retired pastor.
cogwa is the epitome of the cogs masquerading as sheep in wolves clothing. While the hypocrisy and self-righteousness of many cog leaders are blatantly apparent, cogwa lies low in a sinister way. Judgmental and condemning attitudes from the self-righteous hirelings are as rampant in cogwa as in other cogs, but just more carefully concealed. cogwa is a splinter founded on lies and slander more than anything biblical, harshly ruled by the cronyism, and for the financial support of, the good ole boy's country clubbers. It is a whited sepulcher to beware of.
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