We have been watching for a long time the Kitchen family as they attempt to resurrect the Worldwide Church of God and build their altar to Herbert Armstrong where they worship on an hourly basis.
They have spent many years posting as many articles as they could on Facebook from Herbert Armstrong and pretending to hold church on Saturdays. A few people (far less than the 305 Caucasians Bob Thiel is only able to draw) slapped them on the back and congratulated them. This inspired them to develop a website to make everything they could find from HWA and his LOYAL ministers available. GTA is anathema to them, even the things he spoke prior to his daddy kicking him out of the church multiple times. Of course, anything post-1986 is anathema too.
With the new website up they have essentially stolen all of the works of Herbert Armstrong and reposted them, without permission. They also have made the asinine claim that THEY and THEY ALONE are the original Worldwide Church of God where it apparently exists in their minds.
The Kitchen family has long been infuriated that Mark Scarborough had set up a website years before them where he had been able to gather loads of church materials and post them. The Kitchens were incensed that he did this, preempting their attempts. Their Facebook page has been filled with numerous rants and fits of rage against Scarborough. It has been hilarious to watch.
The Kitchens write about their supreme site:
Welcome to the Worldwide Church of God Archives!
The publications archived here on wwcg-archives.com are made possible through the generous tithes, offerings and donations of members of the Worldwide Church of God and other supporters. There are over 50 years of archived videos, audio and written publications available and we are searching to add more to this archive.
The Worldwide Church of God, or the Philadelphia era of the Church of God(Revelation 3:7-13) was raised up through the efforts of Herbert W. Armstrong, and was the backing and support which funded his proclamation of the soon coming Kingdom of God. Ambassador College was started by Mr. Armstrong to properly train and teach the ministry the true doctrines and values of Jesus Christ, as He set and gave them through His chosen apostle.
The ministry was commissioned to relay what was given to them by Christ’s apostle, to their congregations faithfully. The Work and Church grew, and the combined efforts of the Church’s membership produced what you see on wwcg-archives.com.
There have been some ministers and members who have “departed from the way”(Malachi 2:8). The Worldwide Church of God membership may be unincorporated and scattered, but this website is proof that the Worldwide Church of God membership still exists, and they still are holding fast, still supporting God’s true apostle Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong and the truth and values he taught from the Word of God.
Allow wwcg-archives.com to REFRESH your memory of what Christ has taught His Church through His chosen apostle and end-time Elijah messenger, and to call upon you to choose now this day who you serve.
Is it Christ or is it some other BAAL/Idol?
Idol is right! LOL!!!!!! It would not surprise me if they had HWA's picture embroidered on their t-shirts so they can wear him close to their heart.
The Kitchens get around using the name the Worldwide Church of God because it is a "spiritual organism" and not a corporation. If there is one phrase that the COG has driven into the ground it is the "spiritual organism" crap when they want to justify their disobedience and rebellion. The spiritual organism is above the laws that regulate the physical WCG, apparently.
The Worldwide Church of God(an unincorporated, spiritual organism) today holds to the SAME FAITH, same doctrines, same customs and practices, as the original Church of A.D. 31, under the original apostles.
The Worldwide Church of God is a spiritual organism, created by GOD – not a legal corporate organization created by this world’s laws.
The members of the Church are NOT( nor ever was ) members of the now dissolved “Worldwide Church of God, Inc.,” a California corporation.
Some are teaching their disciples and congregants, that the members of the Church were the above California corporation. This gesture and teaching is only used by these ministers or individuals to gain membership for their organization. It is used mainly against the true membership of the Worldwide Church of God.
We have here the Church, an organized spiritual organism but unincorporated. Now this is not a corporation. This is just the Church as God has organized it.
Herbert W. Armstrong has been used by Jesus Christ to preach the gospel of the kingdom of God in all nations as a witness, meeting with Kings, Queens, Presidents, Emperors, Prime Ministers and other Heads of State, fulfilling the Matthew 24:14prophecy. The job of the Worldwide Church of God has been always to back and support the apostles of Christ in that mission with, support, prayers, tithes and generous offerings! And that message is still going out today, through the support and backing of the Worldwide Church of God membership.
We, the Worldwide Church of God, NEVER stopped our USE of the materials. The Worldwide Church of God membership are striving to preserving the “products and materials” that have been produced by the Worldwide Church of God under Herbert W. Armstrong(1934-1986) through this website, although we have been plagued by many who want to steal them and illegally use them for their churches for monetary gain.
Talk about fraud at its highest proportions!
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Jim Jones (People's Temple), David Koresh (Branch Davidians) and Marshall Applewhite (Heaven's Gate) still have followers maintaining personality cults for their dead idols, many years after their deaths. Why shouldn't Herbert Armstrong have the same?
The Worldwide Church of God(an unincorporated, spiritual organism) today holds to the SAME FAITH, same doctrines, same customs and practices, as the original Church of A.D. 31, under the original apostles.
OK, Kitchens! Show me that any of Jesus' apostles ever stayed in a hotel during the Feast of Tabernacles, and I'll concede your point. Show me that any of them believed that the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh would have a special role in end-time prophecy. Show me that the original Apostles asked brethren to send a tithe of the tithe every year to HQ. Show me that the Apostles encouraged the custom of carrying a briefcase to the synagogue and taking notes. Show me that the original Apostles established the custom/practice of having two meetings of the brethren on each Annual Holy Day.
As for 31 AD, show me that the apostles in AD 31 agreed on what the Acts 15 council would decree 15 years later, and I'll concede your point. Otherwise, be at least a little bit more honest and date yourselves to AD 48.
It hard enough to argue the case that the WCG was the one true successor of the first-century church, guided by God and HWA to adapt customs and practices appropriate for the end-times. But the Kitchens' claim of holding to "the SAME FAITH, same doctrines, same customs and practices, as the original Church of A.D. 31" is nothing but risible rubbish.
And it's not 31 AD. Nisan 14 was on Monday in 31 AD but this subject is beyond the pay grade of the leadership of the COGs.
The Kitchens Claim: "THEY and THEY ALONE are the original Worldwide Church of God where it apparently exists in their minds."
MY COMMENT:
I , TONTO, Do Hereby Declare ....THAT I, and I ALONE , am the original "Radio Church of God", where it apparently exists in my mind!
SO THERE!!!!
'The original Church of A.D. 30' would be more historically accurate, with a Wednesday crucifixion.
Why is it that so many of these splinter group leaders are such creepy people?
Why is it that so many of these splinter group leaders are such creepy people?
Considering that these leaders are working so hard to follow in the footsteps of an incestuous pedophile, "creepy" is actually one of the better possible outcomes.
If you were not just plain weird when you were attracted to Armstrongism, 3:39, the sheer obsessive-compulsiveness of that lifestyle makes you weird, and creepy. My primary goal when leaving was to attain normalcy, to round off the rough corners so as to be a fully participating human who was taken seriously, and could therefore become successful. Most of this, I had dialed in within a couple of weeks, but some of that stuff runs really deep and takes years of work to fix. Counseling helps, but outside counseling apart from "God's" ministers was pretty much verboten for church members.
Personal evangelism through letting your light shine is darned near impossible if you project the image of a weirdo or asshole!
The COG movement can't even agree on the proper way to archive church history.
And yet some people still believe the movement will reunite.
Sad.
You guys should expose UCG.
Armstrongism differed from the televangelists on many points of doctrine. But on everyday practical matters, Armstrongism is basically a clone of these contemporary churches. I watched these programs for years, Joyce Meyer, Kenneth Copeland, Hillsong, etc. Their sermons don't differ significantly from the ACOGs, and it's obvious that HWA ministers cut and pasted some of their material. The problem is that it's significantly Pharisaic, eg, they all shun rights. At this stage of most members lives. their spiritual diet shouldn't be sub contracted to others, which is what the kitchens are encouraging with HWAs old material.
HA! Who's tonto kidding? You'd never have gotten into Radio COG. You're political WCG through and through.
Yes you have the correct year it was not 31 ad dr hoeh came up with that. People will say oh well it’s not a doctrinal issue well but saying 31 is an untruth a lie so is
that not a doctrine??
How good is calendar knowledge today?
Does Hoeh's AD 31 hold up?
If not, what was actual year?
30 ad
"30 ad"
This subject, once so "important", doesn't seem to elicit much interest anymore. Where have all the ACOG Hebrew-Calendar nerds gone? And what about all the Sacred-Name splinters, don't hear about them anymore either.
Well, you're right, we havent seen our usual "CALENDAR CONFUSION" guy pop up yet. Sweetblood likes his sacred names though.
Sacred Namers
"..don't hear about them anymore either"
should be
"don't hear about them anymore ether"
as in somnific-opiate
So many people have used the materials provided by the Kitchens to illustrate how cultic and controlling HWA was!
Funny, there's something about a kitchen and spices. Take the name apart. AR Chives
Since the Kitchen's claim they are loyal to HWA's original teachings, I have to ask these questions. Do you hold to his original pre-1974 teachings on divorce and remarriage. Do you also hold to his Monday Pentecost teaching?
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