Remember when Dave said the following in 2021 at the end of sermon 294? Here we are in 2023 and the sermon series is at 453 as of last week. Day after day, month after month, year after year, Dave still cannot get anything right. Apparently God is still hiding a secret that even Dave cannot discover, so there is not much fear in the world finding out.
Dave states at the end of 294:
“Finally let's imagine that the kingdom of God did not come this year. Let's imagine it. This church is in a serious dilemma, and I want you to think about it. And I ran it by a half dozen ministers, and here are our options, because all of our literature currently teaches that the kingdom of God is built the way my Baptist father-in-law believes, Christ comes and builds the kingdom. All of our literature is written that way. Now here's option "Number One," Ready? Let our literature say that and it's FALSE! I've written, I don't know probably a million words about the gospel. I've got to alter those. When would I do it? We can't let it go out. It's not true! So that's option number one would just let it stay there out of the question.
Option "Number Two," withdraw all of our literature on the subject of the gospel. The Awesome Potential of Man, What's the Kingdom. What's the True Gospel, How World Peace Will Come. And all the booklets that I wrote years ago that had been so productive. Hundreds of millions of our pieces of literature have gone out, just withdraw them and never talk about the Gospel again? Well, that's a problem because we have an open door in front of us and nobody can shut it! So we wouldn't be expected to do that. So neither of those options are realistic. Here's the third one. God says he wants to come as a "thief", as a "snare." He does not want the world to know it. He wants a little group to know it. So then what do I do? Rewrite the literature and tell the world what it appears. God does not want them to know? That's option "Number three," that doesn't sound like a very good option, but we'd have to do something, unless God revealed this extraordinary mystery that has been this series right before he intended to solve the problem Himself. Because here they are, again, leave the literature that's up--it's wrong! It was "a present truth." Mr. Armstrong taught things that were wrong and he taught all the other doctrines of God correctly. We believed them. We held to them, but I no longer could. What would our ministers counsel people who were reading booklets that are wrong? "Well, this was actually wrong, but we need to understand it should say this." Well, they'd say, if I were a prospective member, like I was 55 years ago, I'd said, "Well, why hasn't it changed?" Or the alternative? Remember, second alternative? Just cancel all that literature and never talk about the kingdom of God. Well again, no one could consider that a viable option.
And the third one is start rewriting it. Now that would even take a while. And then we would do, because the Work is booming. Make no mistake. We are booming right now! I've never seen anything like it! And we're poised to do big stuff. So what would we do just sit on that we're wonderfully positioned to explode! But then we would be telling people what God doesn't want known. So, there was no box on that list where you could check "none of the above." You got to go one of the three ways. Now I never mentioned that as a metric because I never thought of it as a metric until I came to understand the "mystery of God" is that the kingdom of God arrives in a totally different way than anybody we or anybody else ever thought.
But it's a "fact" and you've heard the proof. So the only solution it seems to me is that the kingdom has to come, or I got to choose one of those three things because I'm not going to sit back. Our "reserves are," I mean, you just can't believe how well we're doing. We never done this well! We're 22 years now and I mean, we're not going to go build more buildings. There's no time for that. What would we do? We have a wonderful staff. We don't have to spend time hiring more staff. We're well positioned. We're poised, we're oiled. We could go out and do a much bigger work, but the problem is we would be disclosing a secret God does not want it out. I don't know how I could do that in good conscience. So, God speed the day! It looks like our weight is very short for one more reason. And the "Mystery of God" has gone away in a greater way. For one more reason. Good night.
11 comments:
“We could go out and do a much bigger work, but the problem is we would be disclosing a secret God does not want it out. I don't know how I could do that in good conscience.” -- DCP
No secrets at all being disclosed, just lies that God does not want being told. I don't know how Dave Pack could do any of the things he does in good conscience. He does not seem to have a conscience. Nobody with a conscience could lie and steal the way he does.
“We're poised, we're oiled.”
TRANSLATION: “We're poison. We're slippery.”
Mental illness at work at the rcg.
"We're well positioned. We're poised, we're oiled."
Oh! - Thats from Pack?? I thought it was a quote from a "pride parade"!
Poised? Oiled? IGNITION!
"but the problem is we would be disclosing a secret God does not want it out. I don't know how I could do that in good conscience."
Translation: "I'd rather keep the money in the bank"
It's not just the money, 7:57. The facade Dave creates for himself is that he is much more intelligent than he really is. His continuous failed prophecies are part of that as well. I have no idea where he is getting those, but if they were from God, they'd all be coming to pass. This bit about God not wanting certain things to get out isn't a credible explanation for his continued lying prophecies and nearly invisible work. His gaslighting has even run out of gas. I become embarrassed for him every time he speaks.
This man should be locked up in a mental home and the key thrown away. He is a confirmed liar and he shows this by continuing to change his opinion every second. An oiled salesman is more like it. A scum bag that shows up at your door to sell you a bridge that doesn't exist. He surely would have made an excellent politician.
Anonymous at 1:24 AM said...“His gaslighting has even run out of gas. I become embarrassed for him every time he speaks.”
David Pack is still able to run on empty somehow.
All the outrageous evil that the false prophets like Gerald Flurry and David Pack have done while pretending to be HWA's successors is a HUGE EMBARRASSMENT.
So let me get this reasoning straight.
Dave claims to be an apostle, given charge to make doctrinal changes, because he followed an "apostles" ministry better than anyone else. But then freely states that the previous "apostles" ministry was completely wrong. That would make the previous man a false apostle. So, by following a false apostle, teaching false doctrines, better than anyone else, this qualifies him to be a true apostle.
So now you have to believe everything he says, or you risk your eternal reward, because he followed a false work completely.
Nothing about that makes any sense at all.
Several years ago I was on the east side of Wadsworth, Ohio, and wanted to see the Pack compound. I drove up to the big gate next to the grocery store, but it was shut. I couldn’t drive in to see anything; could just see a bit of the complex from the road.
But, good thing I didn’t get inside. The big, closed gates have magical powers. Any vehicle that drives through the gates, when they are open, silently gets any Bibles in the vehicle instantly edited. Magically, Deuteronomy 18:22 gets erased and permanently disappears:
“If the prophet speaks in the Lord’s name but his prediction does not happen or come true, you will know that the Lord did not give that message. That prophet has spoken without my authority and need not be feared.”
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