Saturday, July 13, 2024

Dave Pack: You have to take ownership. It's deeply foolish and faithless to say, “Mr. Pack said.”


Mr. Pack Said

While pontificating his expert opinions during “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 523)” on July 6, 2024, David C. Pack admonished the brethren of The Restored Church of God not to hide behind the phrase, “Mr. Pack said.”

Part 523 – July 6, 2024
@ 37:52 You, you have to take ownership of these verses. We're in this together. Don't you dare let yourself, and then boy, if you believe this way, don't you dare let me hear it. “Mr. Pack said.”

@ 39:08 It's deeply foolish and faithless to say, “Mr. Pack said.”

The people who believe what he says are worse off than those who hide behind his foolish malarkey.


I was baptized in the United Church of God in September 2009. By that time, I had already begun my personal tradition of reading the Bible cover to cover. A singular verse became the stone foundation of my Christian walk because it embodied everything else I learned.

1 Thessalonians 5:21
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

When Headquarters’ token stooge and theological sycophant Edward L. Winkfield preached that this was ONLY for people before they joined RCG and, then ONLY for the ministry afterward, I bolted up in my seat. Stepford Prime became a non-critical thinking David C. Pack fawner regurgitating whatever prophetic idiocy his human idol presumed at the moment.

The guiding principle of 1 Thessalonians 5:21 compelled my resignation from The Restored Church of God in March 2021 and became the genesis of exrcg.org.

The entire website germinated from a seed concept: document what Mr. Pack said. Through my own personal documentation, I sought to discern if I was deceiving myself, being tempted by the devil, or if David C. Pack was an arrogant, hypocritical, blaspheming liar teaching biblical fraud. The factual evidence was overwhelming.

The Pastor General of The Restored Church of God tells you everything you need to hear to discern if he speaks the truth or not. When a clear, honest mind commits to proving all things, what Mr. Pack said becomes of paramount importance.

 


According to David C. Pack in Part 523, the Bible proved that Jesus Christ would bring the 7-Year Kingdom of God on Tammuz 5 (July 11), and it was up to the brethren to see it the way he does. Unless God tricked them again.

He proved it so convincingly he abandoned his own conclusions the next day, leaving Salasi Jezhi and Jaco Viljoen to flip a coin to see who had to send out the anonymous Church Administration concession email. They both have little white flags tucked in their desk drawers.

Sunday’s email on July 7 noted, “Following yesterday's Bible study more knowledge has been gained requiring further explanation.

Monday’s email on July 8 embraced doctrinal surrender, “For several reasons, it is better for Mr. Pack to speak on Thursday. This alone means we are not looking for this Wednesday.

Hindsight is 20/20. Knowing he fled from everything he said the next day makes watching his proud mannerisms and cocky tones laughable.

@ 12:12 I’ve been suspicious of the fifth [of Tammuz], but how could I absolutely prove it?

The haughty private interpretations of David C. Pack did not absolutely prove anything.

@ 30:10 I'm gonna show you something else that drives home the fifth [of Tammuz].

A chronic mental illness epidemic recirculates at The Restored Church of God Headquarters. Patient Zero David C. Pack in the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium spreads his infectious biblical disease throughout the organization.

I remember learning about "the sin of omission, rather than commission," while attending RCG.

If anyone cowers behind what Mr. Pack said, it is the Headquarters hirelings Bradford Schleifer, Ryan Denee, Edward Winkfield, Jaco Viljoen, Carl Houk, Salasi Jezhi, Frank Lydick, James HabboushAndrew Holcombe, and “the rest” who fool themselves into thinking they protect the sheep when they are ones helping slaughter them by their inaction.





David C. Pack never fears crediting God for his false doctrines when his pattern is to deny them quickly after much suspicion and discomfort.

@ 30:24 And if you knew when God's two years were, and you had Tammuz 5 in mind, by the time you got to Habakkuk, you would be ready for God throwing the overhand right and the left hook to finish the knockout, proving the fifth of the month.

According to Monday’s CAD email, God did not throw anything: “This alone means we are not looking for this Wednesday.

34:24 I can't come and tell you it's the fifth [of Tammuz], but it's some other moed when God has gone way out of his way to point to this day.

David C. Pack can and will tell us it is some other moed as noted in Monday’s CAD email: “…you may be able to determine the date if you take a moment to think about it …and you will probably figure out exactly what day this is!

That email renders the following statements Mr. Pack said utterly impotent.

@ 34:32 In fact, if it weren't this year on the fifth [of Tammuz], I will tell you, there is no chance for the sixth or after based on what I know. We're gonna wait a year to this exact same day. I'm so certain of it now.

This moment captures David C. Pack basking in his certainty during Part 523.


I guarantee you, none of the men sitting with him on Sunday saw him reclining like that.

Dave should have stuck to his “tiptoe just right” approach so he would not have to eat more of his words in 3…2…1…

@ 35:07 But I will tell you, I will tell you, I will not say to you it's any day beyond the fifth. If it does not happen on the fifth, buckle up. I'll tell you, buckle your seatbelt 'cause we're gonna wait till the exact same day, and God just teased us with the correct day…

Wow. God just teased the members of The Restored Church of God? Yep. That is what Mr. Pack said.

 


Despite what Mr. Pack said next, no divine interventions were causing his change of mind.

@ 41:11 And I can't imagine, short of Gabriel telling me, “No, it is the fast day and the fifth was close.” I can’t imagine coming back and giving you a different date.

He imagined it just fine the next day.

@ 41:26 What other date or moed could I tell the house?

Whatever date the vague email referred to: ...you will probably figure out exactly what day this is!” Part 524 was delayed from Tuesday to Thursday to today. Do not hold your breath that the same date survived each postponement.

@ 41:35 And interesting, I’m told I’ll be found so doing. Well, I’ll be found at the office working. [chuckles] That’s where I’ll be on Wednesday.

On Wednesday, David C. Pack pined away in the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium with Coffee Kid and Pepper Boy, conjuring the next biblical illusion that was not ready for prime time until today when Part 524 will better utilize 25,000 hours of expert Bible study proven to be so fruitful thus far.

Will Part 524 contain Tippy-Toe Dave or Brazen Certainty Dave? Whichever version of him sits at the table in the Main Hall, we will be atwitter when it leaks out whatever Mr. Pack said.


 


Enjoy this bonus sampling of what Mr. Pack said.

“It’s a cowardly act to say, ‘Well, Mr. Pack says.’
Well then, you don’t believe it. You got a faith problem.”
Part 231 – January 21, 2020

“On God’s Authority, I am right!”
Part 221 – December 7, 2019

“And God allowed certain errors to see who didn’t care about truth.”
Part 172 – April 27, 2019

“So, would it be strange that I would not know when I became a prophet?”
Part 375 – June 12, 2022

“If you nail that day down, it strikes me as particularly arrogant.”
Part 459 – July 15, 2023

“I’m just gonna tell you absolutely on God’s authority …I will stand on this date:
The Kingdom of God comes Abib 1.”
Part 487 – December 23, 2023

“There’s no way we’ve got this wrong.”
Part 429 – March 15, 2023

“But, of course, all of this crashes if Christ does not come this Friday.”
Part 285 – February 1, 2021

“I could never come back to another date.”
Part 460 – July 22, 2023

“I believe absolutely this Wednesday night you will meet Moses and Elijah.”
Part 381 – July 9, 2022

“It’s the single most important message probably ever delivered on Earth.”
Part 275 – December 26, 2019

“…unless God violates His word, two more weeks aren’t possible.”
Part 455 – June 21, 2023

“10-1-7-1000 is immutable. I will die on that hill. That’s the hill I die on.”
Part 447 – June 6, 2023

“So, I know I don’t die. A couple places say that.”
Part 510 – April 27, 2024

“I’ll never ever, ever again say the day.”
Part 172 – April 27, 2019

Brethren of The Restored Church of God, please pay attention to what Mr. Pack said.


Marc Cebrian

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6 comments:

Red Flag said...

What a load of crap! When someone says things that turn out to be totally the opposite of the truth, of course you are going to say, "So and So says!" That is, if you are sane.

What an assignment Dave has given to his members! They are actually expected to totally buy into the stupid things he supposedly proves, and own them as if they had reached exactly the same conclusion as Dave? If that isn't co-dependent behavior, I don't know what is! Is he a demon attempting to possess all of his members??? No offense, but if he was always right, it might be logical to conclude Holy Spirit. But he's always totally wrong, so you have to say demon.

Anonymous said...

He's cleverly trying to spread the blame of his shame.

He wants the group to climb back out of their lifeboats, he wants the flock to go down with him in his wacky sinking ship.

Anonymous said...

Rom 2:14
For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Rom 2:15
Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)

Anonymous said...

Its not my fault morons, its "Your" fault!

Anonymous said...

Imagine going to the RCG thinking that you were going to get told the truth of God and get yourself saved, and then handing over everything you have to be told weekly, wrong, prophetic date guesses.

Former WCG Employee said...

Thanks Marc for your updates on the escapades of Dave Pack. ("Mister"? - interesting what Christ said about calling no man your "MASTER"). When DCP wrote "Unless there come a falling away" after the Tkach Rebellion many in the COG thought he was stable enough to consider things he brought out in that pamphlet, unfortunately he has gone the way of Gerry Flurry, Bob Thiel, Ron Weinland, and a few other one time ministers from WCG, and taken the road of "self-glory" mixed with delusions of grandeur. My wife and I came into WCG back in the early 1980s, I crossed paths with Bob Thiel "sort of" (not knowing who he was) having served in the USAF for just over 9 yrs (my last base was Vandenberg AFB as a Still Photographer / 1982-1986, then hired by the WCG Photo Dept). I spent 5 yrs at Hill AFB (388th TAC Fighter Wing) as a Weapons Systems tech, which is why when any one worshipping at the Altar of Disneyland, still tells me Germany/EU is going to attack the USA, I show them the reality of what it would take to attack the most powerful military on earth, with facts and the laws of Physics, not going to happen!(any time soon). It takes decades to develop a Nuclear/ICBM program, and Germany has NONE! Unlike what Dick Ames told me about a year ago, them leasing 40 of our F-35s does NOTHING to make them a Nuclear power, we/USA control it ALL, thus making Germany/EU vassal states of the USA.