Showing posts with label Armstrongism. COGWA. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Armstrongism. COGWA. Show all posts

Monday, September 26, 2011

COGWA Using It's Own Church Members To Audit It's Books




COGWA has apparently chosen  McNeely and McNeely as it's auditors over it's church accounts. Melton McNeely is  a member of COGWA.

You can see his name listed here on those who left UCG: http://ambassadorreports.blogspot.com/2011/01/ucg-v-cogawa-war-update.html (about 40th elder down)

The Journal also mentions McNeely in 2004  http://www.thejournal.org/issues/issue94/ucgbsndy.html  Melton McNeely of UCG from Hawkins TX (where this auditing firm is also located).

You would  think they would have learned a lesson from having Stan Rader as a church auditor and the mess that it caused .  But no.  The COG's seem to conveniently be able to forget the past because they think they are far more enlightened today.

Sunday, September 25, 2011

COGWA/UCG Poaching Saga Continues


The behind the scenes shenanigans of Jim Franks continues.  Malm had this to say (below)about Jim Franks and  Gary Petty today:  Gary was in school when I was in Pasadena.  He always had a reputation of wanting to be seen as this great spiritual person.  If halo's could glow any brighter his would have been up there illuminating the entire earth - at least in his assumptions.  By having his face presented on TV around the world I am sure he is feeling very grandiose!  It would not surprise me if he took the money and jumped ship, but I would hope he was a little more ethical than that!

It is amazing to  watch as each successive COG reincarnation is more corrupt than the previous organization all the while claiming they are the most righteous.  What disgusting men!

Jim Franks requests that:   “Effective immediately, please send all donations to the Chase bank processing facility. The address they have assigned to us is:
Church of God, a Worldwide Association, Inc.
P.O. Box 731480
Dallas, TX 75373-1480



This is apparently where the accountants live and work and does not constitute the setting up of a church office.  The actual location for a church office has not yet been officially decided.

It is reported that Jim Franks is working hard on a sweet package to lure Gary Petty from his position as the UCG television presenter.  Jim is reported as justifying this with his peers by claiming that hundreds of people, perhaps a thousand will follow Gary into COGWA.

Jim Franks COGWA's Most Perfect Leader?



In between all the silly doctrines and pronouncements of Apostate Malm there are little tidbits of COG history that are on the mark.  We have all heard how Franks manipulated behind the scenes to help form two break way COG's, all while remaining on his present church payroll.  Malm had this to say:

Jim Franks lied straight out to his peers on the Council denying that he was involved with the dissidents while he was their leader, a facebook group associated with them spread rumurs through 2010, the UCG Current Crisis site was run by the dissenters through 2010, another password protected site was available for elders to contact about joining the rebellion, Franks and Kilough are well known slick politicians and spin doctors long time closely associated. Larry Salyer was deeply involved and tried to make out that he was fired for answering questions. The IAO formed supposedly to help LA and suddenly began to finance the dissidents [preplanned as the financing of the new group all along?]: and they dare to try and deceive people that this was not a planned split. This split was all about control and power as Denny and events make clear. Just wait until they have their system fully in place and then watch the spectre of “OUR AUTHORITY” rise up in COGWA. These guys are smooth politicians like Denny and are well know to be big time bullies if they are questioned. James PS guess who Franks is trying to lure away from UCG to be the public spokesman for any future COGWA outreach? A little hint initials GP of San Antonio.

Thursday, August 18, 2011

COGWA Elects New Leadership: Same Old, Same Old....



Those fine upstanding folk at COGWA, who conspired behind UCG's back while on UCG's dole have elected new leadership.  Men only, of course. The same men who conspired to form UCG when they split from WCG, then did the same planning behind UCG's back to form their new splinter cult.  Same old unethical actions with a new church name.  Same old, same old.

Don't expect anything new from this group.  As they fall back into retro mode and worship all things HWA prior to 1986 look for more people to defect from their group.  Some have already left because they realized they had bought into a lie and have returned to UCG, or left the COG completely.

They having nothing worthwhile for the world and will only gain a few converts who already have some kind of COG background.


The awesome new leadership is:

Jim Franks
Douglas  Horchak

Clyde L. Kilough

Joel  Meeker

Richard  Pinelli

Richard Thompson

Leon Walker

Tuesday, August 16, 2011

COGWA: "Many in the COG Suffer From Emotional and Psychological Problems


The Church of God a Worldwide Association has an article up on it's web page geared towards young adults.  It starts off mentioning that many in the Church of God suffer from anxiety, emotional, and psychological problems. No shocker there!

COGWA had the opportunity to start afresh with new ideas and new ways of doing things when they had their hissy fit and left United Church of God late last year  All indicators over the last year have proven that they have no new ideas and that they are deeper entrenched in the worship of "all things Herb, all the time and in all ways."

Armstrongism has always taken a deep seated hatred against therapy, counseling, and psychiatry.  HWA, GTA and Rod Meredith have always made tremendous effort to mock and ridicule therapy and psychiatry.

So what words of wisdom has COGWA spelled out for those suffering from anxiety, mental health issues and psychological problems in the Church of God?

Christians are not immune to the emotional and psychological problems facing many in the world today. We aren’t comfortable talking about them, but ignoring them doesn’t make them go away. How can we begin to deal with these challenging issues?


As Christians, we know that we will suffer various kinds of trials and tribulations and that our trials can test us and help us grow. Jesus Christ mentioned this reality and gave us encouragement: “These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world” (John 16:33).

Many in the Church of God suffer from anxiety disorders and/or other sorts of emotional and psychological problems. Speaking from personal experience, these are difficult things to deal with, and the subject is not talked of often within the Church. When facing difficult times, my searches generally uncovered little help beyond the advice to pray about it and try to overcome fear.

The second paragraph translates into Armstrongite speak that, mental health issues are "trials and tribulations that we bear because we are "aliens in this world."  Because we live in this world we are filled with anxiety and suffer greatly.

Could that anxiety be coming from horrible aberrant doctrines and sermons by evangelists and ministers threatening the members with every imaginable kind of curse unless they follow their jack booted masters diligently?

What about the anxiety that is produced from endless speculation and silliness regarding the end times, the books of Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation?  How much blood, guts and gore can people take before they have mental issues?

We saw that first hand when one of Rod Meredith's cult members snapped after listening to one of Rod's sermons and went on a shooting  spree killing several  members.  We see it in action with all the end times speculation that is rampant in Armstorngism.  In Bob Thiel's 2012-2016 bullshit, in Apostle Malm's specific date setting, to Wiener Dude Weinlands moronic prophecies which had ALL failed, to LCG's sick obsession with  violence, death and torture in the end times.  The list can go on and on.


So what is the magical COG fix for mental health issues?

The first thing they are told to do is pray about it.  While this may work for a select few, this will NOT cure the vast majority of  people with mental issues. Working with a 'higher power' along with good therapy and counseling techniques will work together for the better.  But when "prayer" is mentioned in COGspeak it has different meaning than it does for most Christians. COG prayers are heard before all other prayers in the world.  COG prayers have a direct pipeline into God's ears where it will be dealt with in some magical way.

 Praying is our most powerful tool as a Christian; being able to take any problem to our Almighty Creator is an incredible blessing! And overcoming fear is also important, although those who suffer from anxiety are obviously going to have a harder time with that—and it doesn’t necessarily mean they are short in the faith department.

Next they are told to "overcome fear." as if it is their fault they are in this condition.  Why are they fearful?  Could it be because of aberrant doctrines and church teachings?  Fear of theologically bankrupt ministers? Or, a deep seated fear of  a god that they think is sitting there in glee waiting for them to commit some kind of sin so he can dish out well deserved punishment?

The author goes on:
I’ve grown up in the Church and am a baptized member of the Church of God, and I have an anxiety disorder. I’ve learned a lot through the ups and downs. Here are a few things I’ve learned:
Never give up on God!
No matter what, there is always light at the end of the tunnel, despite how impossible it may seem. The following scriptures helped me through troubled, and often scary, times.
“Be merciful to me, O God, be merciful to me! For my soul trusts in You; and in the shadow of Your wings I will make my refuge, until these calamities have passed by” (Psalm 57:1).
“Indeed we count them blessed who endure. You have heard of the perseverance of Job and seen the end intended by the Lord—that the Lord is very compassionate and merciful” (James 5:11).
Seek God’s help
Pray; fast; get anointed. God will bless you for seeking Him. Go boldly before God and ask for help.

Pray, fast and get anointed.  You fast because you know you must have something topower to do what a real therapist cannot do.  When this method is used it is an endless circle of disappointment.  "Why haven't I been healed, I need to fast  more and pray more because I still must be doing something wrong!"   Years go by as the person does this cycle over and over as they sink deeper and deeper into mental  health issues.

Don’t keep things inside
I know it feels like you’re the only one who has ever felt this way; but you’re not. Opening up to my pastor and to my family was one of the most difficult things I’ve ever done, but it was the first step in getting where I am today—and believe me, I am in a much better place today!

Seeking help from a trained and qualified pastor will work wonders if he is trained in good counseling methods.  Sadly, there is not a single COG minister alive that has had proper training in counseling techniques and therapy!  Almost all counseling training is "in house" training, because it is not tainted by the "world's techniques".  That's why we have ministers in the COG refusing to deal with rapists and child abusers.  With violent husbands, alcoholism and rampant drug abuse.

Get help
I think that in the past, a negative stigma has been associated with mental health problems and with seeking professional help for them. The stigma is not without cause. There are psychiatrists, psychologists and therapists who look negatively on religion and God and do not work within biblical principles.

On this the author is correct.  The COG has mad a mockery out of mental health professionals.  A well trained therapist or psychiatrist can easily see if dangerous religious beliefs are causing issues.  The problem is that COG members think there is no issue with their beliefs.  "There is no way what I have been taught is wrong.  God revealed this lost information after 1,900 years to God's Apostle and there is no way he ever made a mistake!"
I met with one therapist who was convinced my religious convictions were somehow to blame, but obviously that is not the case. I think he would be shocked if he saw the positive change in me, even though I still attend church and have the same beliefs!
A wise therapist!  A foolish COG member!
But, after praying and searching, God has led me to other professionals who have helped me, and who were supportive of my beliefs.
The decision to seek treatment and the treatment you choose are very personal choices.

At least this person did go outside the COG to get some help.  However, like all god COG members, not too much credit is not given to those people, all the credit goes towards the church and the "truth" they have that they think magically cured them.

As long as any person remains part of an Armstrongite Church of God, there will never be totally mentally healthy.




Saturday, July 30, 2011

The Buffoons Are Still Trying To Be In Control



The "new and improved" Church of God a Worldwide Association is nothing more than a name change for UCG.  The old guard of UCG has jumped ship where they continue their legalistic self righteous "look at me, I'm in charge!" government over the little ones.

Here is the list of upcoming nominees to COGWA'S new power structure.  Of these "men" seven will be chosen to serve on the Board of COGWA.  No new blood, just the same old power hungry men trained under HWA to be enforcers of blind obedience.

This includes the following UCG henchmen who worked behind the scenes while still employed by UCG to form their new splinter cult (repeating the same pattern they did when they planned UCG while still employed by WCG.)

These men are the power hungry potentates that still want to rule over members lives with as much legalistic bullshit that they can lay on the people.  Got to keep that standard of living up in order  to keep that fancy home and car.  Since these men were ethically and morally bankrupt while part of UCG will they have a change of heart and stop their corrupt ways?  I certainly will NOT hold my breath on that one!  Their track record proves otherwise.


Jim B. Franks - MAJOR ethics issues
Clyde L. Kilough - MAJOR ethics issues
Richard Conerly Thompson - Not impressed with the guy after seeing           him perform in his Ohio churches years ago. BAD!
Leon Walker - MAJOR ethics issues
Richard Robert Pinelli - Major ethics issues
David L. Register - Major ethics issues
Leslie L. McCullough - Les has to be up there in years now. Can he survive another Board?

Larry R. Salyer - how long will it be before Salyer jumps ship to form another church?  How many has he been in since being kicked out of WCG? 3? 4? 5?  Somehow in each of them he weasels his way up to the top.

Joel Christopher Meeker - poor Joel, that mustache still does not make you a man!  Isn't it about time you write another "Open Letter" complaining about how you are constantly getting picked on and over looked as the little guy?

Lyle Eugene Welty  - we got to see first hand how you ruined peoples lives when you were in Dayton years ago.  You continued that in WCG in your other church areas and then on into United.  The COGWA members need to toss you out the door as fast as possible!

I don't know much about these guys. I am just surprised that Horcheck is still buying into the garbage!


David Lawrence Baker
Arnold Jerome Hampton
Michael James Hanisko

Douglas Robert Horchak