When Was Jesus, The Light of the World, Born?: Who knows...?

When Was Jesus Actually Born?

Christ’s birth is traditionally celebrated in the West on December 25th, but many Orthodox Christians celebrate Christmas on January 7. Neither date is likely correct in light of several clues uncovered by historians and information in the Bible itself.

https://www.christianity.com/wiki/jesus-christ/wh

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When were the Disciples and Jesus Siblings Born?

Who knows...

https://www.ncregister.com/blog/when-were-the-apostles-born

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(Note: You knew I'd say this :)

When is the SUN, the Light of the World,  born?

 

December 25 when it first moves 1 degree North in its journey taking away the darkness of Winter. Then arriving at the Spring Equinox of "Easter" with days and nights being of equal length, daylight now growing longer with the Sun rising at exactly 90 degrees due East. 

 June 21st, the Sun, now having risen to place of "Most High" begins its six-month journey death marked by the next Winter Solstice to begin the cycle again.

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Christmas Bonus

 

Revelation 12 

"Behold a Virgin shall conceive and bring forth the Sun"

 

NIGHTFLIX-The Story of the Sun's Birth in the Northern Hemisphere where the story originated. 

 

"As Above, So Below"

The Woman and the Dragon

12 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 

2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 

3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 

4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. 

5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6 The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

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13 When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child.

 14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach. 1

5 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. 

Story Origins...

Tonight in the "heavens" over our heads, Virgo, The Virgin (Upper Right) lies on her back, legs open about to give birth to the rising SUN.

Between her and Sunrise is Ophiuchus holding a large Serpent ready to devour the Child born of the Virgo.(Middle)

To the left of Ophiuchus is Aquila the Eagle ready to take the Woman out of harms way. 

Both the Constellations of Ophiuchus (The Serpent Bearer) and Serpens (The Serpent) are considered as one in mythologies and together cover ONE THIRD of the Southern Sky

The Constellation Eridanus (The River), visible October thru December is just off screen and is a very large the amount of night sky that it covers. This is the flood the ancients saw as trying to sweep Virgo away.

Song of the Year! The Ballad of Sammy Kitchen's "Holy Bitchin"

 

Well done, Samuel!  Well done!

“The Ballad of Sam Kitchen’s Holy Bitchin’”

There once was a fellow named Sammy Kitchen,
Whose hobby—no shock—was religious bitchin’.
He’d stomp ‘round town with prophetic flair,
Like a televangelist with too much hair.

Sam ranted of visions, omens, signs,
End-times charts, and crooked lines.
He’d shout, “REPENT!” at squirrels and crows,
And once tried baptizing a garden hose.

But his favorite pastime—his pride! his joy!—
Was choosing a target to spiritually annoy.
First came Aaron Dean, poor unsuspecting lad,
Who Sam declared “theologically bad!”

Sam raged so loud the rafters shook—
The town called it “Sam’s Religious Kook-A-Palooza Cook-Book.”
But when that feud finally cooled to mild,
Sam needed a new prophet to make reviled.

Enter Steve Meyers, fresh as dawn—
Sam latched on like a televangelist pawn.
“HERESY!” he bellowed, “BLASPHEMY TOO!”
Though no one knew what Steve did (or who).

He marched through town in sandals worn,
Preaching like an apocalyptic foghorn.
Folks whispered softly, “Bless his heart…
…his brain’s a few scriptures short of a chart.”

Still Sam keeps ranting, day and night,
Holy fury at full flight.
And the town just sighs, “Here we go again—
Sam’s rewriting Revelations with a ballpoint pen.”

So raise a toast to Sam the Loud,
The self-anointed prophet of the overly-proud,
Whose pious tantrums, wild and rich,
Make heaven chuckle at his holy bitch.

Did A Restored Church of God Minister Jump Ship To Join Samuel Kitchen To Help Restore The One True Church?

Oh, the incestuous merry-go-round of COG groups never ceases to amaze—boundaries and scruples are apparently just suggestions from a bygone era. Church-hopping has been the most malignant (and hilariously predictable) disease in Armstrongism for the past thirty years. Someone’s fragile ego gets a tiny bruise, or they peek over the fence and decide the other guy’s wilted lawn looks positively emerald, and poof—they’re off to the next splinter that will stroke their insecurities and tell them they’re special.

And now, with Dave Pack’s Restored Church of God continuing its endless prophetic face-plant parade, who can blame the poor RCG ministers for eyeing the exits? Some slink off to slightly less insane COGs or Messianic groups, but others—God love ’em—go full Darwin Award and hitch their wagon to the absolute loopiest lunatics still flying the Armstrong flag.

Enter stage left: Jonathan Dicen, late of the Restored Church of God and writer RCG's The Real Truth magazine, is now desperately shopping for relevance. And because nothing screams “I’ve still got it” like joining a “church” with a congregation you can count on two hands without using all fingers, he has apparently thrown in his lot with Samuel Kitchen’s so-called Worldwide Church of God “restoration.”

You can almost hear Samuel squealing with delight. Finally! An actual ordained minister (rumored to have been ordained in the original WCG, no less) wants to join his elite squad of six. At last, legitimate apostolic succession—straight from Jesus through Herbert Armstrong right down to… checks notes… Samuel Kitchen. This means Dicen can now ordain Samuel, which has been Samuel’s real holy grail all along. Because once you’ve got that magic ordination, the tithe checks become retroactively legitimate, church government is properly hierarchical, and the whole operation stops looking like a vanity project run out of someone’s spare bedroom.

Samuel Kitchen calls out his brother, Timothy for daring to critize Samuels latest escapade:

Brother,

Who said God left the order of His Church to human reasoning or personal zeal?

I feel I was inspired by God to establish “The Support Services of the Worldwide Church of God” to set aside funds for the church. So far it has only been my funds, and not a lot of funds since I just started it. 

 

All of the corporate entities the Church had under Mr Armstrong was to provide support services to the Church in order to fulfill its divine commission. 

 

I believe wholly that Jesus Christ is restoring the Worldwide Church of God. You know this. 

 

The authority of God’s Government is here. The laying on of hands is being taken care of. You need not to worry any further. 

 

I am in full support of the ministry of Jesus Christ. You know this. This is why I’ve continued as Dad did, to not sit with those who have departed and wish to no longer walk with the Worldwide Church of God. 

 

I’ve called for repentance of those who came from the Church, who were given false promises in these groups. 

 

Hebrews 5:4, refers to the position of High Priest which is Jesus Christ. For God gave the honor to Christ, as He gave the honor unto Aaron! 

 

I have not sought position Tim, but only to full obey God in all things. God is the one who adds a man to the ministry. 

 

The support structure of the work, is physical in nature. To better assist the church, I created “the support services of the Worldwide Church of God”. It was not a creation of a church.
Jesus Christ is Head of the Worldwide Church of God. 

 

Steve Meyers the head of the ministry in the UCG, says the apostle Herbert W Armstrong is not part of the foundation. This is a rejection of the capstone, which has set forth the apostle into the foundation. 

 

If a ministry leaves Christ, and the flock remains obeying God, do not think the candlestick moves away from the faithful. The Oregon conference held the last remaining members of the Church of God coming from the Sardis era. The ministry had rejected Christ. See Mr Armstrong’s autobiography. 

 

You forget it is God who places in the body whom HE WILLS and where HE WILLS. I am in support of the government of God. 

 

There is no usurping. 

 

And behold God is opening doors for me, even to have a true minister come forward to solve these complaints you have. 

 

If Christ appoints you have no say in the matter. 

 

I have always said from the beginning…you know this…that as an unordained member, I cannot receive tithes and offerings. 

 

Therefore when I created the “support services” in Iowa, it was for my own funding. But now, with authorization from an ordained minister whose family was part of the founding families in the Philippines, under Mr Armstrong, to receive tithes and offerings, and resolving issues concerning laying on of hands, do you not believe God yet? God is in control. Jesus Christ is head. 

 

I am an advocate for the restoration of the ministry. And for doing it God’s way. 

 

I am supporting the work. 

 

As for leadership, that’s in Christ’s hands. He decides who. 

 

I intend to remain where God assigns me. 

 

And do what he wants me to do. 

 

I wrote, the Holy Golden Oil is what ignites the candlestick. And I had only established something that was physical in nature, in order to help me support the Worldwide Church of God. It was Not the Church. 

 

I think you are confused. 

 

This man from the Philippines was not sought after. He came to me. Jesus Christ is still Head of His Church! And He is using WHOM HE WANTS not whom you approve of and decided Timothy. 

 

You ended up in the UCG, because you sought out handouts and help, during your time of trials and lack of financial standing. What happened in Arkansas is an example. You like to keep what happened close to your best, but God sees everything, and yes God gave you mercy. You received help. But it was through your wife’s past, family and friends, and your willingness to contact the UCG or COGWA for help. And once you found a “home group”, you built community, and got settled with home and job, and now feel God put you there. And maybe in your condition you needed all that. I’m reminded of Abraham and Lot. God blessed Lot even though he went towards Sodom. 

 

But Tim you have looked down on me for remaining. For waiting, and for laboring in all capacity I have been given by God. That’s not good. Is it? 

 

Now God is solving the problems Himself. The Government of God is here. The authority of God is here. Christ appoints whom He wants appointed. No one has a say in it. 

 

Remember that’s brother.
In Christ’s service,
Sam Kitchen

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Timothy Responds:

Worldwide Church of God Archives

Samuel William Kitchen you do know Jonathan Dicen is a contributing writer for the real truth. Restored Church of God Magazine, right? Where is his fruit? Anything I find about him, only had that connection, i do not find any connection to The Worldwide Church of God. You say Aaron Dean is God's final authority, being the final and last remaining minister who has the authority from the Advisory Council of Elders. Fruit. And someone else has given you authority. An alternative to what God showed you? You are doing what Dad warned us against. What you once knew. Now you wanted authority, you accepted the offer. You didn't wait. You waited but you had someone come to you with what you desired. Satan knew what you wanted. And this has furthered you away from waiting and going the direction God showed you through our father. Who introduced him to you? I have asked that myself. A man associated with Restored Church of God, claiming to be an ordained minister from Worldwide, who among you were associated with Restored? This is how Satan works. One log at a time. I pray you are brought by God to the place to see this as God sees it. I would ask you to think what would Dad say? 

You created a support system for one you acknowledge is the remaining man alive who holds God's authority as the Advisory counsel of Elders held. Yet you have submitted to another. God works through one man at a time. You either believe that or you don't. Unless you think that one man is yourself. And that would be grave. That way only leads to the end of this world and any part in it if chosen. Don't chose ot any further. Repent. Hold fast, endure. WAIT! To act prematurely as Dathan and Korah did in the wilderness, is something I don't want you to do. I'm praying for you. May God bring you out of those chains that blind you. 

In Christ's service, 

Timothy Kitchen 

Woo Hoo! The Orginal Worldwide Church of God Expands Into The Philippines And Samuel Is Now Authorized To Take Your Tithes And Offerings!

The Work of God™ is exploding across the globe at warp speed! And no, we’re not talking about that amateur-hour circus run by our favorite delusional Crackpot Prophet—perish the thought! We’re talking the one, the only, the authentic, original-flavor Worldwide Church of God, lovingly preserved in Samuel Kitchen’s spare bedroom and inside his own head like a sacred taxidermy project.

Hot off the presses: a former HWA-era minister in the Philippines has heroically reached out to Samuel himself to beg Samuel to bring his earth-shattering, continent-moving ministry to the islands. And because this gentleman is apparently still an Elder™ in the One True Remnant™, he has graciously granted Samuel Kitchen official permission to collect tithes and offerings from the brethren. Hallelujah! Break out those wallets and purses, kids! Dust off those checkbooks you haven’t touched since 1995! It’s time to make it rain for Jesus (terms and conditions apply, void where God has any sense). Praise the Lord and pass the offering plate!

And fear not, scattered little flock that can literally be counted on two hands with fingers left over—this minister will now provide official, factory-certified counseling. That’s right, never again will your life be plagued by the unbearable emptiness of having to think for yourself or decide what to believe. The Church is once again here to do all the heavy lifting upstairs. 

Been there. Done that. Got the trauma.

We have some exciting news!

The Work of God expands to Philippines!

It is with GREAT JOY AND ENTHUSIASM that I am announcing this.

An ordained pastor, Mr Jonathan Dicen, in the Philippines has reached out to me, and we have talked, wanting to revive and expand this work there in the Philippines as the Worldwide Church of God.

His family was one of the founding members of the Worldwide Church of God under Mr Armstrong. He has faithfully endured and has held fast to God’s truth against many persecutions and trials.

COUNSELING: If you would like to request counseling, all concerned messages will be directed Mr Dicen.

Tithes and Offerings: As an elder in the Worldwide Church of God, he has authorized me(Samuel Kitchen) to receive God’s Tithes and Offerings. This is done in accordance with the Law of God, concerning tithes and offerings, and according to Malachi 3:6-12 Concerning the restoration of the Worldwide Church of God.

This post will be updated as we move foward.

For all tithes and offerings, please send a check to PO Box 126 Fairfield Iowa,52556 in the name of “Support Services of the Worldwide Church of God”, or to Samuel Kitchen.

Also see our new website supportwcg.org

For more information visit worldwidechurchofgod.org

No More Crooked Bookcases, Worn Curtains, Exposed Door Knobs and FIle Cabinets?

 

Oh, praise the Lord and pass the floral arrangements—has God’s Most Exalted, Most Anointed, Most Humble Servant finally deigned to notice that his previous sermon backdrops looked like a drunk Laodicean decorated a storage unit? The Supreme Holy One has uploaded a fresh video, and behold: a brand-new painting plus two absolutely misplaced flower explosions now flanking his sacred, luminous countenance like he’s the baby Jesus in a Macy’s Christmas window display. Truly, a quantum leap forward in aesthetic holiness… if you ignore the fact that the flowers are so comically oversized and make his head and body look like a little toddler dressed in a suit.

Alas, the flailing wrists are still doing their interpretive dance routine, because apparently motor control is for lukewarm Laodiceans. And after suffering through the first three or four minutes of “umm… uh… let me… uh… turn the page… uh…” it’s clear the man’s oratorical skills remain stuck somewhere between “reading the phone book” and “hostage video.”

But fear not, brethren! The year is almost over, which means we’re one glorious trip around the sun closer to that long-overdue tribulation that will finally spank all of us rebellious, lukewarm, British-Israelite heathens upside the head. Can’t come soon enough. Onward, Ever Upward, and May His Flowers Never Wilt™!

Samuel Kitchen Tells Steve Myers That He Has A Double Curse Laid Upon Him

Samuel Kitchen, the self-appointed Last Guardian of the One True Faith™(eat your heart out, Bob Thiel!), valiantly spammed Steve Myers and Aaron Dean with yet another batch of "loving correction" emails during the Feast of Tabernacles. Our heroic lone prophet is desperately trying to save their poor apostate souls by commanding them to abandon that wicked, heretical United Church of God and come groveling back to the real Worldwide Church of God—you know, the one that now exists entirely in Samuel's spare bedroom and his unassailable ego.

He's graciously offering them one final chance to see the light (i.e., his light), repent of their filthy compromise, and rejoin the only remnant that he alone has kept pure and unsullied lo these many years. 

The humility is just radiating off the screen.

And bless his heart, it appears Aaron Dean is finally starting to get a wee bit irked with Samuel's nonstop, messianic nagging that he ditch UCG and come home to the "true church" (population: Samuel + three other lost souls). 

How dare Aaron not immediately fall to his knees in gratitude! The nerve.

I appreciate your zeal and desire to do what is right, but sometimes it seems misplaced. Be careful in making anything man sets up, even though God allows and used it at some point, to make us not see, or perhaps reject something he may have planned. As Paul said, We see through a glass darkly. He will make it clear when the time is right. We must subject our opinions to the truths of the bible, and then we can watch it all happen as he fulfills the prophecies.

Samuel's frustrations were leveled mostly towards Steve Myers, and it was not kind:

But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the Lord of hosts.

Therefore have I also made you contemptible and base before all the people, according as ye have not kept my ways, but have been partial in the law.(Malachi 2:8-9)

What does that mean? It means your ministry is null and void, because you reject the Lord thy God, he rejects you.

That’s why I cry over you Mr Meyers. Your ministry is severed from the Head of the Church Jesus Christ! You did it.

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.”(Hosea 4:6)

“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

“Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

“As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.(Galatians 1:6-9)

You now have a double curse on you by the Living God! For preaching contrary to the doctrine which you have learned, to pervert the gospel.

Mr Armstrong at one conference, in one audio, doubled that in the name of Jesus Christ! Wow unto you sir!

Scripture is clear. And Mr Armstrong faithfully preached God’s Word. And since he is your superior, or was(since you have now no ministry with Jesus Christ), he has given the good report and faithful witness.

This entire interaction, I fear, was God bringing this out for Mr Dean to see. I am passing this along to him. Death is not a light thing. Korah challenged God and his “one man”. So did Ananias and Saphirra.(Acts 5)

You tried to rope Mr Dean into your blasphemy, and heresy, and apostasy. God have mercy on you if He so wills it, because that so despicable. It’s a wrong spirit. Demonic. Antichrist.

I hate to write these things, because I yearn that you return unto God and repent and believe God. But in accordance to God’s Word, I have to.

It’s heartbreaking, and I don’t wish harm. But Christ has spoken. It is bound in heaven. The scripture already reveals it.

In Jesus Christ’s name,

Samuel W Kitchen

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Dave Pack: Prophetic Waffling

 

Prophetic Waffling

The brethren in The Restored Church of God were able to enjoy their Thanksgiving turkey with a side of prophetic waffles served up by their human idol, Pastor General David C. Pack.

Ever-splaining with God’s authority, he has officially announced he is unsure about when the biblical Rubik’s Cube will be figured out. It could either be on December 5, 2025, or perhaps February 2, 2026. Hard to know until it happens, folks. He does offer his last best guesstimate.

As is his persistent custom, instead of holding fast to his own teaching, he started waffling in slow motion, serving small fresh-baked doubts about when he will prove his naysayers wrong.

The more Dave dishes out his prophetic waffles, the more the brethren are willing to keep eating them.

 

Fleeting and sparse are the days when David C. Pack teaches anything with clarity, power, and authority.

Flashback Part 601 – October 11, 2025
@ 1:39:52 The only way I could be dissuaded or the men who work with me intensely about this, of the date I know about, is if God or Gabriel spoke from heaven with an oracle to tell me otherwise.

But that was when Dave had on his big boy pants.

Only one month later, during “The Greatest Untold Story!” Parts 607 and 608 on November 15, 2025, the brethren were subjected to a more timid Pastor General who was determined to undermine his own teaching while he spent more hours continuing to teach it.

If you listened carefully, the stealthy waffling about December 5 (Kislev 16) came early.

Part 607 – November 15, 2025
@ 00:54 Kinda stay prepared. Stay ready for for what could I say? Monumental surprises.

One of the monumental surprises would come after three hours and six minutes of padding.

Part 608 – November 15, 2025
@ 1:24:54 All these verses don't match 1335 exactly. That's a problem. Something to ponder for later. It's close. Of course, we cannot have long.

The certainty of December 5 being the date that cannot tarry was already fading before Dave shuffled to the front table. But like most half-decent magicians, he needed to keep the audience distracted before subtly topping his waffling with deceptive syrup and powdered manipulation.

@ 1:25:08 But a critical point has come clear, and that's a kind of an introduction to it.

@ 1:25:24 So I I'm I I'm I’m preaching sometimes twice. Feel good. Thank you. I know you're praying for me. I been getting tremendous energy. I can't even explain it. It's its own miracle.

David C. Pack declared a miracle, and the brethren witnessed it. This keeps their attention away from his waffling about the current timeline.

@ 1:25:35 But some things have come clear. We're on track. And I I will be bringing you more. More things. You know, the next two Sabbaths, I've got them lined up and and we’ll just we’ll just see how many we go beyond that. Wink and a nod.

The wink and a nod is that he is going to blow up his own picture. Again.

Dave likes to save his vague waffling for the end of a message, after members are exhausted and anxiously checking their watches, wondering when they will be allowed to go home.

 

No longer pussyfooting around, the next week, David C. Pack wasted no time dissolving the surety of the Kingdom to Israel, arriving on December 5. Exemplifying outgoing love and concern for the curious brethren, it only took him 97 minutes to get to the point they wanted to hear from the time they drove home last week.

By this point, the prophetic waffles were stacked high.

Part 609 – November 22, 2025
@ 1:37:30 The 2,625 days is from a a a day in December or a day in February. I call it, “The Date [chuckles] in Scripture That Comes Twice.” Or “The Same Day That Arrives Two Times.”

Even when Dave formulates labels for a momentary idea, he waffles on that, unable to just pick one.

@ 1:37:54 You wonder, “What do you mean, Mr. Pack?” So, I just wanna say this ballgame, to some degree, is still tied. There’s no clear winner.

Spoken like the apostles of old. How are members not embarrassed when he waffles like this?

This is the Mr. Pack they want:

Flashback Part 602 – October 18, 2025
@ 1:50:30 Only an oracle from God or Gabriel or Christ could change my mind.

This is the Wafflin’ Dave they get:

Part 609 – November 22, 2025
@ 1:42:32 Two dates stare at us. They’ll resolve themself, even if we hafta wait past December 5th. We’ll know.Both cannot be true. One holds no meaning. Either December 5th or February 2nd holds no meaning.

News Flash: Neither Date Holds Any Meaning

When you read this, please hold all laughter until the end. This is a master class in waffling.

@ 1:42:53 Next week, in what I hope is the last sermon in the Series, I’ll give my last best estimate or guesstimate in a Bible study after the final sermon of what I think it may be. But I’m just gonna tell you the the tie will not has not broken yet. I may know in a week. And I’ll review a few things that strengthen December 5th on the last Sap–Sabbath we will come to before it. And then I’ll if if if that doesn’t happen, then I’ll come back with an enormous case for February 2nd. And we’ll have to accept the fact that it’s not a Sabbath. So, I leave you with that thought. We’re very close. You wanna know what I lean toward? Normally, I would give you a leaning. I am so 50/50, I I just you can’t even believe it. It’s hard to believe that we’re gonna enter our rest and it’s not a Sabbath. But the case for February 2nd is unbelievable.

The case for February 2 is as unbelievable as all the other 137 before it. Dave’s prophetic waffling is a tried-and-true pattern you can almost set your watch by.

People joined The Restored Church of God for the biblical precision of doctrine. But they choose to stay for a man's last best guesstimate. It seems their love for the truth has also been waffling.

 

The brethren would do well to trust in the words of David C. Pack as much as David C. Pack does. He conjured the doctrine, taught it, then waffled on its validity while still teaching it.

David C. Pack’s Pattern of Prophetic Waffling:
Dave preaches Doctrine A for hours. Then, he undermines Doctrine A for hours by stealthily introducing Doctrine B. Doctrine B is then taught for hours, even though Dave is already harboring uncomfortable suspicions and realizes before his head hits the pillow that Doctrine C is actually the truth. Meanwhile, foolish brethren falsely believe Doctrine B until Dave comes back the next week to tear apart Doctrine B with a "better" Doctrine C. More proofs solidifying Doctrine C are on the horizon, and a list of further evidence he does not have time to share is waved in the air. The following week, an out-of-the-blue Doctrine D is "proven to be inarguable," while Dave rips Doctrine C to shreds as being "impossible" in the light of the more-perfect Doctrine D. Doctrine D is immovable until Doctrine A is reestablished as "the hill I die on" with blame placed on mistranslations, forgotten verses, and irrelevant coincidences. Unless Gabriel, God, or Jesus Christ says otherwise, Doctrine A is never going to change, and there is no other date possible. Until Doctrine E falls like an anvil out of the sky and jolts Dave like a bolt of lightning while he sips his morning coffee. All the ministers agree that Doctrine E cannot budge and is as solid as a rock. But nobody considered Doctrine F.

This is the cycle of “The Greatest Untold Story!” at The Restored Church of God and why there are 609 Parts ten years running with no end in sight.

David C. Pack is a blaspheming, hypocritical liar, a false apostle, a false prophet, and a false teacher. A genuine Seventh Messenger chosen by God to end the Mystery of God would be able to do so without continuously waffling on his own ideas.

The Pastor General fulfills the scriptures, but never in ways he thinks.

James 1:8
A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways.

1 Corinthians 14:8
For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?

The continued uncertainty about when Jesus Christ, or the Kingdom to Israel, or the Kingdom of God, or Daniel’s 1335 will arrive “right on track” keeps some weary members stuck in their seats with the foolish wishful thinking, “Surely, this can’t keep going on like this much longer.”

The Greatest Unending Series began on November 14, 2015, when it was called “The Greatest Story Never Told!” Last week, Dave delivered Part 609 on November 22, 2025. Only those clinging to medical-grade denial believe this is almost over, divine occurrence or not.

This will never end because God is not guiding David C. Pack to teach what he does. The Holy Spirit is not inspiring his utterances. What David C. Pack teaches is manmade malarkey fueled by maniacal ego and supremely desperate hubris.

The series has become less about when the Kingdom of God will arrive and more about what Dave “is gonna do” once he is crowned King “Elijah the Prophet” David working one-on-one with the Father while Jesus Christ maneuvers “in the background.”

All the self-righteous sugarplums dancing in Dave’s head are moot until the prophetic show starts. And that exact date is to be determined. Dave may say 50/50, but deep down, he knows it is 0/0.

November 29 is Dave’s last chance to kick the can down to February to buy himself some much-needed Me-Time while clinging to the illusion of knowing anything about anything. Anticipate him proudly announcing he “was right” about February 2. It will surely come. Wait for it.

David C. Pack unsurprisingly served up another heaping pile of prophetic waffling. The only question is: How much longer are the brethren going to keep eating it?

Marc Cebrian:

See: Prophetic Waffling