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Saturday, September 7, 2024

Mocking The Disabled People In UCG?

Luke 14: The Banquet | Mural by Hyatt Moore, painted during Global Access Conference, 2015.


A Guest Commentary: Serving Disabled People



True Christians or truly good people in general It should sadden our hearts to see the great suffering of the disabled people. Like the Shriners hospital for children, we should remember the disabled members of our community and those who care for them.

UCG supports law enforcement but when they had the opportunity to do justice, the pastor said we should leave the justice up to God. He thought the courts and police were working for God. How come, if God is real, he never punishes people himself like striking them down with a lightning bolt? The only things God ever does is stuff that is humanly possible, and that is done by humans themselves - never God himself.

We ought to feel saddened by the suffering of disabled people. A minister said, "Don't take them to the feast because you have to watch them." That's discrimination because the UCG minister told someone not to take them to the feast because they would need to be watched. After all, they are disabled. If they truly had an outgoing concern, they wouldn't mind watching someone who's disabled I would want them to have a good time at the feast. That is what he told someone who invited us to the feast last year.

IN THE UNITED CHURCH OF GOD, there is an arrogant ableist that is prejudice towards disabled people so a United Church of God member told someone, pointing at me and my brother, "I can't hang out with these guys." Someone asked, "Why can't you?" Who was this man? Only the most arrogant and hateful person, who claims to follow Jesus Christ but does not live up to it! He said that we talk funny and are socially awkward. Even though the bible says, "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." He also called us "retards" to our face!

Jesus commanded to invite the disabled to feast with you. "Then Jesus said to the man who had invited him, 'When you give a lunch or a dinner, don’t invite only your friends, brothers, relatives, and rich neighbors. At another time they will invite you to eat with them. Then you will have your reward. Instead, when you give a feast, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame and the blind. Then you will be blessed, because they cannot pay you back. They have nothing. But you will be rewarded when the good people rise from death.'" - Luke 14:12‭-‬14 ICB

Persecution is a crime that is defined as severe discrimination that results in the denial or infringement of fundamental rights. Practice inclusive love as Jesus loved. Treat everyone as if they were an angel in disguise. One of the people who refused to help disabled people said, "We need a president who can speak!" - putting down Joe Biden on a Facebook post for his speech impediment. It is commonly believed Moses had a speech impediment too. Would you say he is not a good leader because of how he talked too, really? They like Moses but pick on people with speech problems in our time. Moses’ own description of himself is that he had trouble speaking, and God allowed his brother Aaron to act as spokesman for him (Exodus 4:14–16; 7:1–6).

People will know the distinctiveness of Christians by the nature of their sacrificial love for one another. Loving one another invites a test of the validity of genuine Christian living. Love is the badge of a Christian. I wonder why Christians would treat someone with a speech impediment in our time badly when the Bible says Moses had one? Even though you shouldn't pick on someone for having a disability, did you imagine they would pick on someone who for something that someone in the Bible also had, like Moses was known as a stutterer, but they pick on Joe Biden for also being a stutterer, they love Moses, but they pick on Joe, but he has the same thing that Moses had?

The person who bashed Joe Biden for his speech impediment also has a Facebook account he shares with his wife. Isn’t the Bible talking about how we should behave with humility and sacrificial love? Interestingly, that goes against our nature. We tend to want to be the best, the strongest, the first in line. Jesus teaches being a servant. The church called "The United Church of God" discriminates against the disabled apparently their churches college doesn't offer any accommodations for people with disabilities.

What does Judaism say about this? The commandment "Thou shalt not oppress the weak" applies to all individuals, including those who are disabled. In Judaism, every person is valued and worthy of respect, regardless of any physical or mental disabilities they may have. We are taught to treat all individuals with kindness, compassion, and empathy, following the principle of "Love your neighbor as yourself" (Leviticus 19:18). Disabilities are not a measure of a person's worth or value in the eyes of our faith. In Judaism, every individual is considered to be created in the image of God (Genesis 1:27), regardless of any physical or mental disabilities they may have.

The Torah teaches us to treat all people with respect, kindness, and compassion, including those with disabilities. In fact, there are specific commandments and laws in Jewish tradition that emphasize the importance of caring for and supporting individuals with disabilities. For example, Leviticus 19:14 states, "Do not curse the deaf or put a stumbling block in front of the blind, but fear your God. | am the Lord." This verse teaches us not to take advantage of someone's disability or mistreat them in any way.

Additionally, Jewish tradition places a strong emphasis on the concept of "tikkun olam," which means repairing the world. This includes working towards creating a more inclusive and accessible society for people with disabilities. Overall, Judaism values the inherent worth and dignity of every individual, and teaches us to treat all people with compassion and respect, regardless of any disabilities they may have.

The Bible teaches that every person conceived in this world is a unique creation of God. Ultimately, in the eyes of Judaism, individuals with disabilities are valued members of our community, deserving of love, respect, and support just like anyone else. It is our responsibility to ensure that they are able to fully participate in society and have their needs met with dignity and compassion. There is a commandment in the Jewish 613 commandments it says " Not to oppress the weak—Exodus 22:21 "

About the disabled, we should show them compassion and serve them as equals. Remember, Jesus healed the blind, the mute, and the lame during Jesus's time on earth. Each one of them was a precious child of God, deserving of dignity and respect. We must not look upon them with condescension or sadness, but rather with understanding and empathy. For we are all in need of healing, whether from physical infirmity or spiritual blindness.

Additional notes: Bullying is hurting or threatening people who seem weak. If a church does not give disabled people the same equal opportunities as non-disabled individuals, it could be considered discrimination. Discrimination on the basis of people with disabilities goes against the principles of equality and fairness. All individuals should be treated equally and without discrimination regardless of their disabilities and abilities.

About the Bible: The four gospel accounts record that Christ performed many miracles during His ministry. Many of His most dramatic were healings. He made the lame walk—gave sight to the blind—healed lepers—healed others with the palsy—and “healed all that were sick” (Matt. 8:16). He also performed many healings of the mind by casting out demons from those who were possessed.

My brother was going to Suffolk Community College now, but UCG bullies were so arrogant they were trying to recommend a day program. I remember when someone even said, "They can walk!" And the church also didn't punish someone who made disabled people cry or want to hang out with them because of their disabilities and punched another church member in the face when they were fighting!

When we see Christians who mock the disabled, It means that there is a disconnect between the teachings of Jesus, who showed love and compassion towards the disabled, and the actions of some individuals who claim to follow him. By mocking the disabled, these individuals are not embodying the values of kindness, acceptance, and empathy that Jesus exemplified. This behavior is not in line with the teachings of Christianity and goes against the principles of love and respect for all individuals, regardless of their abilities or disabilities.

NOTE: The author of this post, my friend, is a very articulate, bright, and thoughtful young man with a cognitive disability. He is curious about the world around him and wants to be a part of it. I believe that he and his brother should be treated with the same respect and compassion which Scripture enjoins us to do for others. I should also note that I edited out some individual names from the original and inserted a few pronouns and punctuation marks. What do you think?

 Miller Jones/Lonnie C Hendrix 

NOTE:  I also received a copy of the email which these people described what happened to them in UCG. It did not surprise me at all. Banned

Tuesday, August 6, 2024

The Foolish, Arrogant and Biblically Illiterate Shepherd David C Pack



It's no secret, if one listens to Dave Pack, the theological misfit, he feels that he knows more than anyone else about the Bible. Evidently reading it and then cut and pasting the parts that tend to agree with him and even point to him motivates him to spin one false biblical scenario after the next ad nauseum. Those who enable Dave, stroke his ego and refuse to confront him keep the fables flowing.

Dave Pack is not a trained theologian. His education was in Bible reading and the false practice of "here a little, there a little, line upon line, precept upon precept" misunderstanding of that scripture's context, which is nowhere near the meaning the Churches of God ascribe to it. 

"Here a little, there a little"

Dave Pack knows nothing about the actual sciences and no, he did not study and settle the topic of evolution "50 years ago" once and for all. I took the same stupid and ignorant class he did and just trust me, it was stupid and ignorant. Dave's understanding is at the level of "A Whale of a Tale" and a "Theory for the Birds" which WCG published to settle the question of "no, evolution did not happen" once and for all. It was grossly out of date scientifically when published as was the course material Dave claims he studied 50 years ago. 

Aron Ra slaughtered Dave Pack's series on Creationism and why Evolution cannot be true with 19 a Pack crushing series of his own as to why it is.

 

Dave knows nothing of the actual background and composition of the Old Testament. He takes obviously borrowed mythologies as being literally true. He knows nothing of Gospel origins, authorship, politic and intent. He never studied such topics. They were never understood by the WCG faculty or ministry much less taught. Herbert Armstrong was merely a charismatic Bible reader and the pattern Dave Pack found to fit his own ego and theological nonsense.

Dave knows nothing of the first century political and theological intrigues between the Jerusalem Apostles and the Apostle Paul. He probably does not realize that Paul wrote, lived and died before any Gospel was ever penned and comes first in the story of the NT. I doubt Dave would understand that Paul never met Gospel Jesus nor why he never quotes him. 

Dave certainly would never entertain the idea that the Book of Revelation is not for anyone today or that "to show things (THEN) which must shortly come to pass" and "Behold I come quickly" meant "to them not us" and, of course, didn't happen.  He'd argue it is "both then and yet now again", but he'd be wrong. 

And of course, there really are not any Old Testament references to David C Pack's coming, mission or message. 

Nonetheless, there has never quite been the expert in all things like David C Pack. 

Just ask him.

I’ve come to the point whereas I’ve explained, I’m encyclopedic on the Bible, I can just study it in my mind, I can call up these verses and I just then I just said, ‘I’m not gonna stop.’ Then I took a pause and by nightfall I was over a hundred and eventually over a hundred and ten.”

 “It just never happened. I’ve studied Church history like no one I’ve ever knownmaybe there’re some who know it better than I do, but I wrote a lot about it, I’ve talked about it, and I’ve I’ve harkened to this point.”

 “I’ve been studying God’s word for almost 50 years. And I’ve studied prophecy, I know

this, like no man who’s ever lived. And I’m gonna tell you things over the next several weeks that are so awesome, so mind-bending, even before today.”

 “I’m telling you, brethren, I understand this. I’m equipped. I am trained to understand. I know what war is, I’ve studied it all my life.”

 “I’ve studied prophecy, I am sure, by far, more than anybody who ever lived.”

 “I’m not the Apostle Paul, but I am one and I understand what he’s thinking. I’m sure I’ve pastored more people than he did. He probably traveled more in many ways. Maybe raised up more congregations, although I raised up almost fifty, but I don’t know...”

 “This is a profound understanding and nobody ever put it together and it was my task to do that and begin to explain it to the church. I’m going to tell you, I think there probably are still a few flaws in what I’ve said, but very few.”

 “What we learned on Thursday night, nobody on earth knows! Nobody knows it. My whole life I’ve dug into these things. I know prophecy better than any man alive. I’ve said it before, if you think I’m arrogant saying it, as I like to say, ‘Then, pray for me.’ But I’m gonna tell you I’ve dug and dug and dug like nobody I ever knew...and now a thousand wise men could not convince me I’m wrong.”

 “These are mysteries. Nobody understood any of this. I didn’t and took me a while to put it together. I mean, I feel like I could write a new King James Bible better, with the Greek and Hebrew. They were fine, I’m not I’m not trying to brag, but I’ve had to. That’s where I got up to and I do estimate it’s about 9000 hours of study on this.”

 “Look, maybe there’re people who know New Testament Church history better than I, but I but I I’ll bet there aren’t three in the last two thousand years, partly because I live at the end of it and I’ve studied it and written long books on it and studied it...”

For the whole nauseating list of Dave's quotes about himself see:

DCP_Like-No-One-Else.pdf - Google Drive

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Dave Pack Defined

5 Signs You're in an Abusive Church (crosswalk.com)

 The cult of the leader.

Abusive communities often have a dynamic leader. They appear personable and engaging. They command attention and energize a room. They teach with authority (often quite loudly) and employ a multitude of scriptural references. At face value, it appears as if their leadership is biblically based and divinely blessed.

While the teachings of the leader may appear biblical, there is often little discussion of the biblical text in its historical or theological context. Scripture verses are used as proof-texts alone. 

Teachings are designed to illustrate the leader’s special knowledge or experience. Either by prayer or personal study, the leader is deemed to understand the correct application of Scripture, an application that others fail to notice. Importantly, as the leader alone holds this secret knowledge, individuals are dissuaded from asking questions or researching the topic themselves.

These dynamics create an exalted status of the leader. In abusive communities, the leader is to be followed blindly. His or her leadership is understood to be divinely ordained. Questioning the leader, therefore, amounts to questioning God’s holy and unalterable word. The continuous message to the community is “be like the leader” rather than “be like Jesus.”

Friday, June 28, 2024

How the Truth About Tithing Was Suppressed (And Still Is) In The Church of God


The Great Bwana to Africa Bob Mzungu Thiel had another meltdown today over this letter. Apparently, it is time to run it again.


"Hello. Ted? This is Bob... Remember that tithing research? 
I think we're going to have problems with Harry."


There has been a great discussion on the Ambassador College Alumni site about tithing and how one man, through much research, proved that tithing was not an Old Covenant or New Covenant command for church members.  Of course, this did not sit well with an administration that survived on tithing.

The man who did this research was Harry Eisenberg.

From Ambassador Report 1

Editor: At beautiful, serene Ambassador College a person who is too concerned about truth may suddenly find himself living in a hostile environment. His personal quest for truth may not be regarded as dangerous or heretical as long as his voice is not heard by too many people; but if he is eloquent, or in a position to influence minds in the Ambassador entity, then his quest for truth will be regarded as a great threat.

After Ambassador College ascended to a position of limited prestige among fundamentalist institutions, and while in the midst of accumulating perhaps the most effective propaganda machinery of all such institutions, there occurred the simultaneous accident of accepting a student who regarded the acknowledgement of truth as paramount.

By the time this happened, Garner Ted Armstrong had become a major industry. The Worldwide Church of God had become Ted's religious arm of global influence and the church's Doctrinal Committee had become an efficient oppressor of truth.

The following account, written by Harry Eisenberg, is an account of character assassination. It clearly explains how truth is suppressed inside the Ambassador entity and how the one who discovers it must become silent, giving way to the personal doctrines of those in power, or be removed.

Before his discovery, Harry Eisenberg was an employee of Ambassador College. He is the author of eight major articles published for Ambassador under his by-line, as well as the author of numerous articles written for others or published under no by-line. Here is his story:

Quite by coincidence, I am writing this article on the main campus of the University of Maryland. As is the case with virtually every other institution of higher learning, considerable research into both the sciences and humanities has been undertaken here. The purpose of the university is not only to educate students, but to provide new knowledge and answers to questions affecting our society.
Colleges and universities have in fact been the major vehicle for providing society with new knowledge in just about every field. The student, especially the graduate student, is on campus not only to absorb knowledge but also to make a contribution to the body of knowledge extant in his particular field. To use a familiar phrase, he is expected to give as well as to get!
One would think this principle should hold true for Ambassador College as well. Unfortunately, this has not been the case. This is due to a basic difference between Ambassador College and other institutions of higher learning.
Whereas most universities exist to promote the advancement of knowledge and to pass it on to their students, Ambassador College exists to promulgate to the public the knowledge and values of its founder, Herbert W. Armstrong. New discoveries and/or contributions to knowledge are often not welcome there. For one thing, such new discoveries are not, generally speaking, in keeping with the primary aim, which is the dissemination of existing knowledge. Furthermore, should any new concept uncovered through the research of a faculty member or student conflict even remotely with the views of the founder, such research is utterly unwelcome, as Herbert Armstrong's views are regarded as sacrosanct and inspired.
For example, one student wrote a research paper for an Ambassador theology class, claiming that the scriptures speak of a spirit in animals as well as a spirit in man. He provided considerable evidence to support his contention. Upon presenting the paper to his instructors, the student was urged to keep his ideas to himself. It seems the spirit in man and the idea that animals differ from man is a pet concept of Mr. Armstrong's, and the theology instructors were afraid to present the Student's findings to him.
The following semester the student was not allowed to register for classes and was expelled from the college. He was charged with the crime of "highbrowing the ministers", whatever that means. The loss was Ambassador's, not the student's.
I was a paid researcher on the staff of Ambassador College for over four years. Generally speaking, my work involved providing "proofs" for the pet concepts and theories held by Mr. Herbert Armstrong and/or his son, Garner Ted. Occasionally, I was successful as in the case of an article entitled "Did Jesus Have Long Hair?" This article attempted to show that there is historical evidence proving that Jesus did not necessarily wear long hair, as he is often pictured today.
My article was widely reprinted and resulted in a personal full-page interview in a major Los Angeles daily. It was one of few articles which have cast Ambassador College in a good light. It was met with complete silence by an administration which feels any publicity should he its own private realm.
In January 1973, I was asked by my supervisor, Brian Knowles, to research the subject of tithing. In particular, Mr. Knowles was interested in learning who paid what to whom and how in ancient Israel.
And so I began a systematic study of the tithing doctrine by listing each Biblical verse which in any way refers to tithing. What followed was a study of commentaries, encyclopedias arid various historical sources. The result was inevitable! I came to see that the tithing concept as promulgated by Ambassador College and the Worldwide Church of God was contrary to both the Old and the New Testaments.
Scripture makes it plain that the right to collect tithes was given to the Levitical priesthood in exchange for their service in the Temple. There is no evidence that this right was ever passed on to the New Testament Church. The Encyclopedias BRITANNICA and AMERICANA both confirm this view when they state the early New Testament Church did not practice tithing, although it was later adopted by the Catholic Church in the Sixth Century A.D.
Upon presenting the research paper to my supervisor, I was treated in a manner reminiscent of Galileo's encounter with the Catholic Church. I was warned that I had better keep my findings and views to myself. Naturally, it was assumed that I had done the paper because I had some kind of ax to grind and was merely out to prove a previously held notion. Research at Ambassador so often has meant nothing more than finding "proofs" for the "inspired" concepts and ideas of the Armstrongs.
When I was asked to squelch my ideas, I pointed out that that might be difficult as four people had already seen the paper. I was told that if I would keep it down, a doctrinal committee (sic) would eventually consider my findings. Six months went by and about all that the so-called doctrinal committee accomplished can be seen by reading a booklet entitled MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE published briefly by Ambassador College in the summer of 1973.
When I concluded there was no reason why I should keep my paper from others, I proceeded to show it to anyone who inquired about it. Not believing I was the ultimate authority on the subject, I collaborated with a team of some six other Ambassador College researchers on a more in-depth paper on tithing which was completed in December 1973.
As a result of these papers and the fact that I no longer felt a religious compulsion to practice tithing, I was dismissed, without warning, from my job on January 7, 1974. This happened despite the fact that my new supervisor, Dr. Robert Kuhn, acknowledged that I had done outstanding work for him. So much for religious freedom at Ambassador College.
The paper in question was ultimately published with minor modifications by both the Foundation for Biblical Research and the Associated Churches of God. Some open-minded researchers for a newly reconstructed doctrinal committee which was investigating tithing confided to me that any thesis or dissertation from reputable theological institutions that they had the opportunity to examine dealing with the subject in question, tended to agree with my findings.
Finally, in a meeting called to investigate the origin of the papers published by the Foundation and Associated Churches, I was publicly slandered by Ambassador President, Garner Ted Armstrong. Armstrong stated, "Now I don't express it as assassination of Harry's character-it is his mind I'm worried about and not his character. I'm not a bit worried about his personal integrity or his personal habits nor his personal sincerity, but I'm not prepared to say he is the most balanced individual mentally, and that I would rely an awful lot on his research."
But he had been relying "an awful lot on his research". Just weeks before, Armstrong had been parroting my findings on his television program seen by millions in the U.S. and Canada. Furthermore, many of these programs were repeated on the air over and over again. On more than one occasion, articles bearing the by-line of Garner Ted Armstrong but researched by me appeared in fire PLAIN TRUTH magazine.
Only when my findings disagreed with Armstrong's private views was my research no longer reliable and the writer fit for ridicule. But such are the risks that anyone takes who might dare disagree with the administration.
-Harry Eisenberg
Editor: Harry's efforts to obtain the truth about tithing represented a special threat to the Ambassador administration. It is the one threat Ambassador fears the most-the threat of individual integrity asserting itself over Ambassador's aristocratic corporate structure.

Consequently, on January 7, 1974, Harry Eisenberg's hopes of a fair hearing for tithing research died by committee. Harry's voice, as well as his research, had to be removed from among the followers.
The Ambassador College Board of Trustees found nothing sinister about Harry's removal. Ministers and students who had liked him apparently found nothing objectionable in his being disfellowshipped. "He was a youth overly exposed to satanic doctrines, demonic thoughts goaded him into an attitude of rebellion. Nothing unusual in that." It ended, however, in his dismissal from an organization to which he had dedicated his life.

The announcement of Harry's termination took less than a few seconds. There was no risk that the doctrinal committee would expose the true reasons for Harry's dismissal because members of that committee had been a party to it. There was no risk of exposure from members of the Ambassador-controlled media because a few words about the "Ambassador Oasis" from the charismatic Ted Armstrong and the students would inquire no further. They would not try to digest the indigestible, think the unthinkable, or question Pilate about the removal of a Christian.

No, on January 7, 1974, all seemed well. In fact, things seemed better than ever. And, in short time, the people would again be reminded that "God's work is moving ahead stronger than ever."

Friday, June 14, 2024

Dave Pack: Jesus Christ Returns on Pentecost! June 16, 2024 Or…?

 


Pentecost 2024! Or…?

Jesus Christ Returns on Pentecost!
June 16, 2024
Or…?

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God changed his mind about not being able to declare the day Jesus Christ will return, giving hope to those in the audience who maybe wanted him to.

During “The Greatest Unending Story!” Parts 516 and 517 on June 8, 2024, and Part 518 on June 11, the Pastor General rushed to call out 258 wasted minutes to end the Series once and for all and complete the Mystery of God. Or…?

David C. Pack is a caver who cannot deliver. Once again exposing his most insecure nature, he undermined all 4 hours and 18 minutes proving Pentecost this weekend in the very last 64 seconds.

He almost made it to the finish line but could not cross it without giving himself some wiggle room.

 


It is always a miserable Sabbath for the members of The Restored Church of God at Headquarters when David C. Pack speaks twice. The hurried meal between them is no relaxing delight, either.

He started out with such confidence that you might assume he really had a handle on things this time around.


Part 516 – June 8, 2024
@ 00:27 You will learn the day we’ve all been waiting for.

What a difference a week makes.

Flashback Part 515 – June 1, 2024
@ 19:55 YOU maybe want me to declare the day, and I cannot do that. I can’t do that.

Only a devil-inspired enemy would dare go back further.

Flashback Part 459 – July 15, 2023
@ 1:25:40 …if YOU nail that day down, it strikes me as particularly arrogant.

Perhaps we should not linger in the past but focus on the future.

Part 516 – June 8, 2024
@ 00:42 But, this time, you'll stand up Monday, and you will say. We’ve had a lot of different aborted dates. If you wanna say. While we’ve learned more and more about God’s plan, we’ve never really pinned down when it would start. But, you will stand up on Monday, and you will say after you hear all that I have to say, the sermon and the Bible study, and Monday, and you will say, “This really is the day.” That’s what you will say. You will not doubt it.

Dave is already projecting his desired outcome upon the audience before he bores them for the next four hours.

He repeats finishing things on Monday. It was my experience while working at Headquarters from December 2012 until March 2021 that David C. Pack does not do anything on Mondays. He may always say the word when he boasts about all he will do, but Mondays must be his slippers and PJs day because the man cancels everything he ever plans on Mondays.

It is humorous to revisit how Part 516 began and to know the way he finished Part 518 on Tuesday. To be more precise, Dave should have said, “You will not doubt it. But I will.”

 


@ 1:09:30 I did not solve (and I wanna say this) God’s mind and plan. It just came time for Him to let us into His thinking because the Mystery of God has to go away. And I don’t know how that wouldn’t not include the day. And then it has to be (according to Habakkuk) made plain.

There is no fear of God before his eyes. While speaking in God’s name and claiming His authority, David C. Pack places his particularly arrogant presumptions leading to Jesus Christ returning on Sunday, June 16, 2024, at God’s feet. God’s fingerprints are not all over the failure that will occur on Sunday.

David C. Pack must take absolute pleasure in blaming God. This theme repeats later.

@ 1:28:18 And I saw 3,000 people in tremendous power occurred on Pentecost. Have never been any day like it. In fact, that day is described by God there is no day like it. And if you pick up the Bible and you study through the Bible, there is no day that that that that even rivals, never mind, matches the size of Pentecost in the skyline of this book. There’s no day like it.

Using the same rationale each year, it has become an annual event for Dave to fixate on Pentecost. You can practically set your watch by him.

Part 517 – June 8, 2024
@ 00:26 But the way to do this is to lay out all all of the places that God talks about Pentecost and then close on Monday. And I think I can devote most of Monday to the proofs that it has to be Pentecost as opposed to all kinds of things that could be a surrogate for some other day. Has to be Pentecost and on Monday, it has to be this year.

Oh no. Doing it again. Cannot stop. Must go back in time. Must remember history.

Flashback Part 172 – April 27, 2019
@ 1:03:50 I’ll never ever, ever again say the day.

Part 517 – June 8, 2024
@ 01:40 And that'll be great because I see right now it has to be Pentecost. And all I can say is the most powerful material in some ways by far will come Monday.

Dave takes another jab at God. He plants the manipulation seed in the brethren's head that they only have God to blame when disappointment arrives Sunday morning.

@ 40:11 The the wuh–the evidence becomes overwhelming. It would almost be an act of deception by God to lay out all of this and say, “Sorry. Fooled you. Joke’s on you. All of this is a surrogate for some day you’ll never know even though the Series is ending and, you know, Pentecost is close.” Oh, by the way, what a nice coincidence that is. Oh, iddn’t that nice? How lucky are we? It’s not a coincidence, of course.

None of this is coincidental. It is the perverted expression of a warped mind that cannot come to terms with the reality that God is not using him to preach any of this. David C. Pack is not being moved by the Holy Spirit to declare Pentecost this Sunday or the 81 previous dates since March 2022.

I do not hate David C. Pack, and I do not long for his death. I hope the man would repent of his disgraceful blasphemies and arrogant wickedness. He exemplifies the warnings in the Bible about the worst types of people. He is an embodiment of what the New Testament epistles cautioned us about.

About 1,240 people around the world listen to David C. Pack defile God's name and blaspheme weekly, and then they choose to remain seated because they do not want to forsake the fellowship. Anyone still attending The Restored Church of God is in a perilous spiritual situation.

At what point is excusing willful sin a willful sin itself?

@ 58:08 Now, you're me, and you're trying without Gabriel whispering in my or Michael in the other one or an utterance from God in a direct way, you're trying to put together what nobody ever knew about the 7 Years, never mind, that it's gonna be on Pentecost when it sure looked like it’s a New Moon but, oh yeah, we’re gonna find out it actually is but not in a way you can now guess.

Since Dave has established that an utterance from God does not need to be spoken or heard to still be an utterance from God, he will pepper that notion throughout future messages until he is ready to cash it in for some grand announcement. Remember that an unordained non-prophet/non-psychic said it first.

David C. Pack conjured a second New Moon on the tenth of each month to make Pentecost 2024 work for the start of the first Seven-Year Kingdom of God.

The thump on the floor you just heard was Wade Cox having a seizure.

 


Dave must have caught a prophetic case of the Mondays because he delayed Part 518 until Tuesday. It makes you wonder how many smiles and hugs will be at Headquarters this coming Monday.


Part 518 – June 11, 2024
@ 00:10 Well, let’s see if we can finish this Series. My assignment is Habakkuk 2:2-3. To make plain or maybe we should say to continue making plain the the moed that we’re waiting for. …and you decide, you know, your your your faith is what you live by. Faith is in the word of God. You decide if you think we can, shall we say, wiggle out of of Pentecost.

Anyone who has faith in the words of David C. Pack is a fool. Anyone who has faith that David C. Pack has any chance on this green earth of interpreting the Scriptures correctly is a fool. Anyone who has faith that God is guiding David C. Pack to teach them this and declare Pentecost 2024 as the day Jesus Christ returns is beyond foolish and is, of all men, most miserable. Woe unto them. 

@ 11:31 So, these are critical things to connect. Christ’s Kingdom comes at Pentecost. And then, seven years later, His Kingdom in glory, or we could say, Christ's rule, the 7 Years comes at Pentecost. A dark and cloudy day at dawn. And then, seven years later, another one.

@ 14:47 So, yuh yuh’ve yuh’ve one proof after another after another that Pentecost is the date.

@ 1:33:39 Think. Two great original Pentecosts 1,500 years apart give way to two more that are far greater. Here [7-Year Glass] and here [1000-Year Glass]. What a revelation. What a revelation. The Series is over. If I knew the watch, I’d say. I I think it’s more like dawn. I don’t think we’re waiting for sundown. This is my last message.If I knew the exact moment, I don’t know how long God’s gonna wanna come and talk to us first.

One day, it will be David C. Pack's last message, but it will come in a way he did not expect.

@ 1:34:24 But, I give the final message. It’s number 518. 519, I guess, you count the very original one. And then, there’s a tiny, tiny micron. Looks like what? A hundred hours, maybe.

@ 1:35:02 You know, we needed real patience. We needed real patience.

There will be some hefty need for abundant real patience before folks slip their green envelopes into the passing basket Sunday morning. Hopefully, members will consider their ways and the situation staring them in the face when they sign their checks during Special Music.

Remaining in The Restored Church of God is not an act of patience but determined stupidity. Yet, the brethren are not dumb. They know what is going on but choose to linger because the frightening realization that they are not in God’s True Church can be paralyzing.

How much more can they be pricked in the heart before they flee transparent hypocrisy? Do any of them worry about how much pressure that hot iron has applied to their conscience? Their presence supports wickedness. Their funds encourage the lies David C. Pack feeds them.

Come Monday, if they choose to stay, they only have themselves to blame when Dave announces his next calendar fixation, waving his powerfully long list in the air.

 


David C. Pack is going to fail, and he knows it. He cannot resist undercutting every point he made across four hours and eroding any perceived strength in his case. The brethren probably hoped he would end the Series without painting an asterisk on the page. But that is what Dave does. Wiggle, wiggle.


Dave believes blaming God for any perceived deception is always a good fallback position.

@ 1:37:27 Now, a caution. I I I guess I’m just gonna give this ‘cause I’m not gonna speak again. I don’t know if it’s a realistic caution. I didn’t know if I should I should I I should give it, but if we went past Pentecost (I can’t fathom that. I can’t fathom it.) God has done something inexplicable beyond what we can know or comprehend. Just gonna make kind of a summary statement to close. I guess I’d wait through every season. Sabbath or either kind of New Moon while we’re in the midst of the years. That’s that’s what I’d do if you. I I don’t think there’s any chance of this…

Dave should have just thrown his hands in the air and cast his list at the audience. Not only does he think there is a chance of this, but his troubled discomfort is screaming that nothing will happen on Sunday.

A confident man of conviction finishes strong. An insecure weakling inserts an “or…?” at the very end. 

@ 1:38:02 …but I’m telling you now…

The only reason he brought this up now was so he could later share with the brethren how right he was. Dave loves being right about being wrong.

@ 1:38:05 …and I would wait for the new heavens and the new earth to fix everything. That’s what I would wait.

When you are the top dog, you do not hop over the fence. Waiting is easy for David C. Pack. He is being paid to wait and create nothing.

@ 1:38:18 In the meantime, I'd say this, and I’m gonna do it myself, plan your regular Pentecost offering.

Boom. The money angle. Jesus Christ may not be bringing the Kingdom of God this weekend, but you better bring your checkbooks, brethren. Anyone in The Restored Church of God who gives them money on Sunday is just paying David C. Pack to lie to them. He has made a career out of it.

@ 1:38:25 And then, pray Godspeed the First Kingdom in something around a hundred hours away. Good night.

There will be some serious disappointment in the Pack household on Sunday by the time Dave skips Services so that his wife can slip their offering into the basket. Imagine the content of the emergency ministerial Bible study when Dave corrals the other hirelings to share what God zapped into his head at 2 AM, confirming all his suspicions.

The only hope we have for this Sunday is for Dave’s Special Comments during Announcements when he lets everyone know how right on track they still are.

After three messages spanning four hours and eighteen minutes, David C. Pack has proven that the First Kingdom of God, beginning the Seven Years, will start on Pentecost 2024! Or…?


Marc Cebrian

See: Pentecost 2024! Or…?

Monday, June 3, 2024

Crackpot Prophet Claims Most Will Not Respond To His Gospel Because The Bible Said So

 


God's most highly favored and most important Church of God leader to ever walk this earth (pound sand, Herb!) is back again making excuses for his AI-translated booklets and articles. He doesn't care if they are riddled with mistakes and admits it. His logic is that even with all the mistakes, just because someone looked at his writings he has spread the so-called gospel even if they do nothing more with it than line the bottom of the birdcage. A life has been touched and he has done his job. The gospel has been spread and it is up to the person to accept it or not. Of course, God foretold this in sacred scripture, for these perilous end times, knowing that 99.99% of the world would reject the Great Bwana's message.

What useless crap!


As has been the case recently, we also received another 20 translations of our English booklet titled The Gospel of the Kingdom of God
 
Some of you may recall that I have never claimed that the translations were perfect. Instead, I have said that the following prophecy applies:

9 “Whom will he teach knowledge? And whom will he make to understand the message? Those just weaned from milk? Those just drawn from the breasts? 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, Line upon line, line upon line, Here a little, there a little.”
11 For with stammering lips and another tongue He will speak to this people, 12 To whom He said, “This is the rest with which You may cause the weary to rest,” And, “This is the refreshing”; Yet they would not hear. (Isaiah 28:9-12) 
 
Notice that even having some language difficulties seems to have been prophesied. And, I have been saying that about our translations for many years.
 
We are to reach people in multiple languages as a witness before the end comes (Matthew 24:14), despite the fact that most will not respond in this age. And we know that there may be difficulties caused by translations.

Tuesday, May 21, 2024

Aaron Dean: Jesus Is Telling Him To Repent, Return To The TRUE Worldwide Church of God, And Be Pastor General

 



This is so far off the charts it does not deserve commentary...other than this, COG members will no more follow Aaron Dean than they did Bob Thiel.

So here we have a man, who was a minister of the Worldwide Church of God(Church of God in Philadelphia era), needing to REPENT, in order to receive GOLD to apply to the candlestick!
He already is a messenger of the church OF THE LAODICEANS, a separated group. Jesus Christ calls on him to REPENT, and make purchase of gold tried with fire. The gold, or tithes and offerings, are to be applied to the PHILADELPHIA CANDLESTICK or the WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD! This "good work" will provide "white raiment".
Now since the Worldwide Church of God, the Philadelphia Candlestick, is already in existence,(Rev. 3:10; Rev. 12:14-16) this man switches SUPPORT away from a separate group unto God's Church. He then will ADDRESS THE SEPARATED from a CLEANED UP POSITION. Notice Zechariah 3! And from that position, the TEMPLE WILL BE FINISHED, aka the Church age will be finished at the return of Jesus Christ! Notice Zechariah 6!
Revelation 12:17, explains that those who do not repent prior to the Great Tribulation starting, are SEPARATED THEN, and therefore are the Church of God in Laodicean era when they repent and OBEY GOD. The Laodicean Church is an OBEDIENT CHURCH!
The warning to the Laodiceans, in Revelation 3, is to those who have separated away from the Worldwide Church of God, or Philadelphia Candlestick.
They must return to being the Worldwide Church of God! Those who repent prior to the Great Tribulation, will be counted among Philadelphia!
Those who repent too late, wont be able to flee and will go through the Great Tribulation as a REMNANT. That is when they become the Laodicean Church!
So this messenger, is called upon to repent and be part of the Philadelphia Candlestick, to apply what he has received from Jesus Christ TO THE PHILADELPHIA CANDLESTICK.
"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me."(vs 20)
A knock is a loud RAPPING of knuckles against a hard surface.
It shows that the Church of God is in a SCATTERED STATE. Now, God has a VOICE He is using to reach the people of God. That voice is Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong. He is the voice crying in the wilderness.
So that's how Christ is dwelling among the Worldwide Church of God today, and feeding His sheep. Those who are sticking with His apostle, His Voice, are enduring until the end, and OVERCOMING.
"To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne."
"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."
So when you view Revelation 3:7, you read " And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write"
This is talking about the Church of God INSIDE of the Philadelphia Era.
When you get to verse, 14, however, " And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write"
This messenger, is being talked to, to REPENT, so God could use him in the Philadelphia Candlestick, aka the Worldwide Church of God.
This is the SECOND man of the Two Witnesses!
The Laodiceans, in verse 14, are those SEPARATED in the Great Tribulation(Rev. 12:17), while Philadelphia is in the Place of Safety.
This man will be ministering unto them who COME OUT OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION.
Notice Revelation 11:4 about the Two Witnesses.
"These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth."
Reason for writing this...Mr. Aaron Dean is a minister of the Worldwide Church of God. He is now attending with, and has also been ordained as a minister of the UCG. The United Church of God is a SEPARATE GROUP, collecting the ministers and members of the Worldwide Church of God to PREVENT "one man rule" to be restored back to the Worldwide Church of God.
So it is basically serving as CHAINS, on the ministry. And so you see a picture like that of Zechariah 3. Satan is ready to ACCUSE, the ministry.
When I write about Mr/ Aaron Dean, I do not worry about those who wish to do him harm. I believe he is the man spoken about in Revelation 3:14-21.
Now if you notice, Revelation 11:4-5.
"These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
"And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed."
Now, out of all the ministers of the Worldwide Church of God, he was there with Mr. Armstrong, meeting the heads of state, the Kings, Queens, Emperors, Presidents, Prime Minister's etc.
There is NO ONE ELSE, who can provide a first hand testimony, and witness, to those leaders of the world.
Just like Joshua the High Priest, under Zerubbabel, Aaron Dean is the assistant to the end time Zerubbabel.
Now, when Mr. Armstrong examined the Advisory Council of Elders, he found ONLY ONE MAN, and he told Aaron Dean that God wanted HIM to be the next Pastor General. Mr. Dean said he talked him out of it.
But Tkach left Christ. The rest have died or left Christ and only Aaron Dean remains of that "casting of lots".
But because of the wolves, he is now found among another church. He has NO GOLD to apply to the Worldwide Church of God candlestick. He is busy applying gold to a GOLDEN CALF.
Which brings you to the picture of Aaron the High Priest, the brother of Moses, while MOSES IS NO LONGER AROUND, being swayed by rebellious people, to apply GOLD to a "suitable replacement"(quote, unquote) which is a golden calf.
So he is aiding the United Church of God right now.
Jesus Christ is calling him to REPENT, and to make PURCHASE, and that means sacrifice, and CHANGE. When you repent, YOU GIVE UP THE WAY YOU WERE HEADING, and TURN AROUND.
And through repentance, he receives GOLD from Jesus Christ, and as a minister APPLIES IT, uses the Tithes and Offerings, to the candlestick Jesus Christ has raised up. The Worldwide Church of God.
Jesus Christ is saying all you have to do is repent, Mr. Dean, and to turn around and apply your labor to the Worldwide Church of God. The Philadelphia Candlestick.
I'll have to write more on this later. But I will say this...
The Worldwide Church of God is NOT the church of Samuel Kitchen! I am NOT an ordained minister. I am simply a member.
I am not asking for support. I am not asking to be made a minister!!!!!!! And I mean that! What I am concerned with, is making known the Worldwide Church of God aka the Philadelphia Candlestick EXISTS!!!! And to bring attention, to perhaps a man who is the next Pastor General, picked by God, and NOT BY MEN.
I wish to declare the works of God! That's all. But If I am to take the flak, for mentioning this, and become the prey all because of what I am saying... so be it. Bite all you want, wolves. You can't overthrow God and His Word.
If my torn flesh is what is needed, then so be it!
Revelation 3:14-21, is talking about a LEADER of the Church of God, who was part of the Worldwide Church of God, who needs to REPENT from being SEPARATED from the Worldwide Church of God. Jesus Christ is telling him NOT TO GO INTO THE TRIBULATION with that separated people, but to return, and be one of the two witnesses.
So...Im putting my own name on the line, in saying this is Aaron Dean. He seems to fit the picture, and appears to be the one God picked. No man has picked him. No man is voting for him.
I don't support the UCG. I don't believe it to have been established by Christ! So why would I choose Aaron Dean out of anybody, if i was off my rocker and trying to build a church of my own? This isn't the Church of Samuel W Kitchen! The Worldwide Church of God is THE SPIRITUAL BODY OF CHRIST! Jesus Christ is head of this Church! Like I said, Im nobody. Im not a minister. I'm just a member.
But since THERE ARE MORE OF YOU, than me, go and ask questions. Go and search for answers. Take it to God. See if what I am saying is crazy or not. BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD! It's that simple.

Monday, April 22, 2024

Dave Pack: Strange Leading the Strange

 


Strange-r Danger

David C. Pack is an expert on the topic of strange ideas. He is obsessed with distorting Bible doctrines, perverting them into an abomination of his own corrupted imagination. The Pastor General of The Restored Church of God clearly sees the reasons for his prophetic failures and dwindling membership. None of those reasons have anything to do with him because the answers are always external.

The wicked spirits in high places are very active in The Restored Church of God. Just not the way David C. Pack thinks.

According to him, the reason brethren flee his spiritually bankrupt organization always has some outside, nefarious cause. The devil seduced them. Their spiritual weakness revealed itself when their human nature pulled them away. They just followed their dumb wives out the door. They just want to go off and sin and eat pepperoni pizza.

They lack the faith to accept “The Greatest Unending Story!” Series is God ending the Mystery of God through His chosen human vessel. They lack patience because “This is taking too long.” They are high-minded because “Mr. Pack can’t get all the tiny details right.” They are rigid and unable to accept revealed knowledge because “This isn’t what Mr. Armstrong taught.”

He thinks leaving The Restored Church of God, “is as easy as sipping a cup of coffee.” Since I understand firsthand because I lived it, strange ideas like that broadcast that David C. Pack has no idea what he is talking about.

David C. Pack wants to believe every reason under the sun for why brethren leave RCG except for the one that is true: David C. Pack.

The Pastor General is a hypocritical blaspheming liar, false apostle, false teacher, and false prophet preaching antichrist doctrines that defy the Word of God. He weaponizes the Bible to manipulate minds and control them with fear. Love has waxed very cold inside RCG, and it stems from the central vortex of bitter madness: David C. Pack.

There is a thick darkness permeating Headquarters. The Series will never end because God is not guiding David C. Pack to teach his doctrinal debauchery. The Holy Spirit does not move David C. Pack to utter the words that cause him deeply troubled discomfort. He preaches a foolishly meandering, confusing cesspool of doctrinal filthiness presented as honey dripped from heaven.

People leave The Restored Church of God because they read and believe their Bibles. Hearing what David C. Pack says should be all anyone needs to discern if he preaches the truths of God.



During “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 506),” on April 9, 2024, David C. Pack seized the opportunity to warn members from leaving the organization because they would forfeit their salvation and make the biggest mistake of their existence.

After proving for months that the Kingdom of God would arrive on Abib 1, April 8, 2024, only to have nothing happen, he knew he had to address the potential for even more people to flee.

Part 506 – April 9, 2024
@ 01:19:34 I I wonder if there is a very difficult period. I wanna inoculate you. If we do go through a very di–difficult period, Matthew 24 and Luke 12 have always suggested (let's hope I'm not reading it right) that some yet leave and kindle a fire and do not abide the day of Christ coming.

Matthew and Luke foretold some would leave RCG and cause trouble for them. Interesting.

@ 1:20:42 So, do Matthew 24 and Luke 12, some say, “My Lord delays his coming.” Kindle the fire is that the last unbelieving hypocrites among us who were purged by God?

A great David C. Pack irony is that he has been preaching for eight-and-a-half years that "My Lord delays his coming." With each prophetic failure, he has to preach why God gave the members more time. When David C. Pack moves the Kingdom of God's arrival from Abib 1 to Abib 15 to Iyar 1 to Tammuz 1, he is preaching to the brethren of The Restored Church of God, "My Lord delays his coming."

He is also letting people in the chairs know that if they leave, God is purging them. They are not leaving because they discern a fool and depart from his presence. They are not leaving because the Bible instructs everyone to not be afraid of false prophets. They are not leaving because Paul warned of false teachers. No, they want to leave because Jesus Christ is vomiting them out of His mouth.

This is cultish mind control. If you stay in your seat, you are NOT being purged by God.

@ 1:20:58 I watch people leave for for reasons so silly I I just can't even fathom it.

He is saying brethren who leave have no legitimate reasons for doing so. That is a lie. David C. Pack belittles anyone who disagrees with him because he cannot accept the reality that he is the direct cause of anyone's departure.

None of this is new.

Flashback Part 499 – March 21, 2024
@ 32:40 I watch people leave the church. We just had a little cluster of people leave the church because a serpent bit all of them. And and I watch ‘em, again, just like a a sip of coffee. They just let their salvation slip away. But, let’s read. I mean, would people do that? Did they hear the 500 hours? And the answer’s No. What then, why where they here? And they leave over some of the dumbest things.

Fleeing from a documented blaspheming liar false prophet is what the Bible teaches. People who DO hear the five hundred hours have more than enough information to discern the wisdom of leaving David C. Pack and The Restored Church of God.

Do not walk away. Run.

@ 38:14 And you’ll wonder how could anybody ever leave the only church who knows the things I’m showing you.

Things he would later show them are inaccurate, and have to re-invent the wheel as he has been doing for years.

@ 1:13:36 I’ve watched scores of thousand, I’ve said this over and over to people who will sit and hear me say it and blow it off like they never heard me say it. They must have a way of lying to themself.

When brethren finally do escape The Restored Church of God, it is because they DID hear the words of David C. Pack.

Another great David C. Pack irony is he lies to himself all day, every day. It is the only way he can stare perfect, consistent failure in the face and still cling to the lunatic fantasy that God is guiding him.

@ 1:14:57 We’ve had to wait twenty-five years. No wonder. Attacked, lied to, lied about, lied to, attacked. And people just, “Yeah, I’ll leave the church.” Like they snapped their fingers.

Since June 2022, the exrcg.org website has been dedicated to accurate and honest reporting on the happenings inside The Restored Church of God. David C. Pack is quoted correctly and in context. Video clips are provided when his delivery is coherent enough. He is not being lied about from here.

Flashback Part 500 – March 23, 2024
@ 1:47:01 You think you wanna be in this world? [chuckles] You know, we got people just too stupid to be a First Fruit—What? What? They leave. But I've watched it my whole life.

Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks, and the heart of a loving shepherd just burst forth.

Flashback Part 501 – March 30, 2024
@ 10:47 And I've searched diligently, but somebody was supposta understand. You think if you think, “Well, I’m not the one,” well, then you better wait for some other David. Some people wouldn’t wait. “Mr. Pack, you figure out what thousands of prophets over centuries of their lives knew nothing of. If you figured out and if you don’t, I’m gonna leave.”

David C. Pack has a disturbed perception of the people who recognize his wickedness and depart from him. The paradoxical Pastor General is both an arrogant narcissist and a whimpering victim. He knows how to attack and pout at the same time.

 


Near the end of Part 506, Dave felt more comfortable laying harsher criticisms upon those who had already left as a warning to anyone else in the audience who might dare to follow.

The Romans crucified criminals and staged their bodies along the main road as a warning.

David C. Pack adopts the same philosophy.


Part 506 – April 9, 2024
@ 1:33:08 Eight and a half years just seemed too unreasonable, too strange for the self-righteous among us who were just above this, and they left. Followed their own lusts. They left. And I I started all of this to tell you a few more might. And what we've done is not so strange or hard, and that people who've quit, you should not think that's strange because people have been walking away from the way of God since the Garden.

@ 1:33:45 No other church on Earth knows about this Kingdom. 

The Kingdom that did not come on April 8. The Kingdom that has been changing for over eight years.

@ 1:34:21 This is 506 or 7, I guess. I could do it in a hundred messages and speak much less often. Maybe fewer people had left, but that iddn't, apparently, what God wanted. I kept thinking it was right and it was wrong. 

David C. Pack has NO IDEA what God wants. His consistent failures prove God is not backing him up.

@ 1:35:24 Life would've been more normal and maybe more people would've stayed that God did not want to stay because we had to be willing to go through this difficult period.

Could people remaining in The Restored Church of God thwart God's purpose? Imagine the implications.

@ 1:35:43 To leave the only church that sees it is far beyond foolish. One who does this is without excuse. You know what they believe? They reject the whole thing.

 


STOP
Do not miss this next sentence.

This is clinical proof that David C. Pack possesses a warped mind entirely disconnected from reality in 3…2…1…

@ 1:35:57 The fact that I got a date or two right wrong or something, or some detail wrong, but saw a kingdom nobody else could see.

A date or two? That perfectly encapsulates the mentality of David C. Pack. Talk about lying to yourself.

The homepage of exrcg.org hosts a tally of 79 failed dates proclaimed by David C. Pack, and that is only as of Tammuz 1, 2022. If there were "only two," not including the day before Dave uttered that stupid comment, we could start where it all began on Elul 24 in 2013 and throw in Esther's Fast “Night Watch” in 2019.

It is sometimes hard to fathom that David C. Pack believes his own words, considering how filled they are with lies. David C. Pack does not just speak lies. It is who he is.

@ 1:36:06 And you leave the only church that says that, you're probably gone. There is a fire that devours before the Father got here. There are people who are gonna be cutting two. They had to have rejected the whole thing because, you know, because “Mr. Pack couldn't get details right, I'm gonna go back into the world,” and most of 'em do go back into the world.

The Father will devour those who leave RCG with fire or cut them in two. That is a strong motivator to stay. According to David C. Pack, we all left because we rejected the details. What a foolish, deceived man he is.

@ 1:36:28 So, I wanted to say all of that because we might go through a bumpy period. Do what will not be strange is unbelieving hypocrites. Hypocrite means, in the Greek hupokritēs, it means a stage actor. There are people who are stage actors. Some are really good, like Judas, and you just cannot know it. 

Documented hypocrite David C. Pack is really bad at being a Judas because we can spot him easily.

 


Dave was proud of his 15-minute “strange” angle during Part 506. He set up why the Series was moving closer to nine years without the Kingdom of God in sight. It was not strange that people were leaving RCG because God wanted that. Just as God wanted the Series to drag on.

@ 1:21:07 First, let me say it's always seems strange to me that God required the Series to be so long for me to finally get the picture right. Always just seemed strange.

That would require God to be behind the Series. He is not. It would also require David C. Pack to “finally get the picture right," and he has not. Part 509 set an exclamation point above that.

Every week, he changes the picture and explains why the last right picture was actually the wrong picture because the new right picture is better than the last right picture, which is now wrong. Right?

@ 1:22:12 Now, speaking of strange, I want you to, God has us go through strange things. Isaiah walked for years with his bare bottom hanging out. Strange.

Dave frolics through the Bible to point out all the “strange” things God had people do. In his conclusion, he exploits these instances as a cover to explain away his own failings.

I will list a few of his points, let him conclude, then defeat his entire fifteen minute argument in a single sentence. Well, Dave actually defeated himself, but he did not realize it.

“Strange” Bible Occurrences
•  Isaiah walked bare-bottom
•  Jeremiah hid a belt in the rocks
•  Hosea married a whore
•  The Two Witnesses will walk in sackcloth
•  Ezekiel ate a scroll
•  Jonah was in a whale's belly
•  Israel marched around Jericho for seven days
•  Noah built an ark
•  Abraham instituted circumcision

You get the point. Dave presented fifteen minutes of that. And he was so excited about the perfect logic of it all and how warm that blanket must have felt while doing it.

@ 1:23:24 Those are all strange things that God has asked His people to do.

@ 1:26:23 Eight and a half years learning about a kingdom isn't all that strange.

@ 1:28:54 Those are the strangest things you get. That's why a lot of people laugh at the Bible because it's a God who requires things of people. Eight and a half years for a Series. Can you imagine the persecution I get that I don't even tell you about?

David C. Pack drew a line between strange things in the Bible and the Series creeping along. He had built for himself a sure house of excuses. Watch him defeat his entire argument in one of his own sentences.

@ 1:23:24 Those are all strange things that God has asked His people to do.

God did not ask, direct, command, commission, charge, instruct, inspire, or even suggest that David C. Pack teach any of the content in the Series. There could be ten thousand strange things listed in the Bible, but none apply to David C. Pack. God did not send him, yet he ran.

The greatest tool for defeating David C. Pack is accurately quoting David C. Pack.

That is not so strange.


Marc Cebrian
See: Strange-r Danger