Saturday, July 6, 2024

Dave Pack: Tiptoe Just Right

 

Tiptoe Just Right

The righteous are as bold as a lion, but David C. Pack has to tiptoe just right.

The Pastor General of The Restored Church of God did his best to deprogram the brethren away from remembering Jesus Christ had to return at sunrise on Pentecost by force-feeding them his Tammuz Trifecta supposedly occurring on July 7.

The third time's the charm, except for all things David C. Pack. The man is a sitting legend of prophetic failure, atrocious speaking ability, and the most astonishing piss-poor reading comprehension skills of anyone you will ever know. That does not stop him from being The Little Theologian That Could.

After nothing happened on June 16, it was another biblical fraud brainstorming session in the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium where Coffee Kid and Pepper Boy pulled out their “Tammuz 1” notes stored in Bankers Boxes marked 2022 and 2023 from under the sink.

Four crucial messages were essential for the brethren of The Restored Church of God to be adequately prepared to receive salvation to feed a gluttonous ego.

The Greatest Untold Story!
Part 519 on June 20 – 1:27:49     Part 520 on June 22 – 1:51:05
Part 521 on June 29 – 1:58:49     Part 522 on June 29 – 1:28:42

After completing four messages lasting 6 hours, 48 minutes, and 25 seconds, Tammuz 1 should be undeniably proven, and the Series must be over…right?

Well, not quite.

David C. Pack has fully adopted a tiptoe preaching style that avoids definitive assertions brimming over with power and confidence. Instead, the members of The Restored Church of God have to make do with being their own judges about what he might be suggesting:

“Mr. Pack thinks he is pretty sure with all that he can see right now based on what he currently understands since he is doing this all on his own without an oracle from God. He is doing this alone and hasn’t had as much time as Mr. Armstrong to figure this out. He is not prophesying. He is simply teaching what the Bible says."

David C. Pack now timidly slinks through the Headquarters' hallways on his tippy toes, avoiding all "impossible that it's wrong" proclamations since exposing his soft underbelly during Part 520.

Flashback Part 520 – June 22, 2024
@ 1:44:09 You don’t want that pressure on you. I promise you. You have no idea how many of our enemies are sitting out there mocking what I took on that nobody else even saw. You have no idea.

@ 1:45:39 I had under nine years working alone with ferocious opposition. And boy, if I don’t tiptoe just right, you just can’t even believe. You can’t even believe.

Triggered by his internal defense mechanism, Dave carefully worded “our enemies," “mocking what I took on” rather than HIS enemies mocking HIM. He wants to believe the ferocious opposition is focused on the foolish malarkey, not the foolish malarkey maker.

Another observation for budding psychologists and body language experts is that this inappropriate smirk at this moment expresses extreme discomfort.

 


Even though Dave tiptoed just right through his concluding 3 hours and 27 minutes, there were notable changes for the brethren of The Restored Church of God to judge on their own.

  New Moon services have officially ended.
•  Jesus Christ is NOT the Branch. Again.
•  The Kingdom comes at sunset, not sunrise.
•  There could be a delay until Tammuz 5 (July 11, 2024).
•  The translators got something right.

David C Pack sounded like his usual self at the start of “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 521)” on June 29, 2024. Nobody could have guessed that major tiptoeing was coming later.

Part 521 – June 29, 2024
@ 01:56 I’ve got some of the most wonderful things. Just the most wonderful, wonderful, happy, powerful things to cover here on what I still believe is our last Sabbath before we’re outta time. And …it’s almost like God has saved the best for last.

Dave proves he does not have a clue about his own content in 3…2…1…

@ 12:31 Sometimes, as I like to say, preaching is fun. If you’re teaching the truth, it’s always fun.

As a former eyewitness who sat in the Main Hall at Headquarters from December 2012 until March 2021, I would testify in a court of law that David C. Pack's teachings are not fun. In fact, the misery he inflicts on his audience sucks all the joy and peace out of the room, making the Sabbath a burden to bear.

David C. Pack does not teach the truth. He teaches his private interpretation of the truth. This is why nothing biblical will happen on Tammuz 1 or Tammuz 5 this year. There will be no tiptoeing past that.

 


David C. Pack will either exalt or abase a person, place, or thing when it suits his needs. He will sing praises one day but give a backhanded slap the next. According to David C. Pack, nobody has thwarted him more during his solo journey to ending the Mystery of God than the King James Bible translators.

Before Dave gushes, refresh yourself with his status quo.

Flashback Part 382 – July 17, 2022
@ 16:17 Now we’re gonna go over and look at an almost unbelievable mistranslation. …you’re almost not gonna believe the translators could’ve been so terribly wrong and how it affected my ability to figure outhow the Day of the Lord comes.

Flashback Part 417 – February 2, 2023
@ 03:16 Now, as I like to say, “Our old friend Miss Translations” has revisited us one more time. And it’s powerful. …I can only wish I had learned this long ago. I would have never wrestled if a single word were correctly translated.

Flashback Part 441 – May 6, 2023
@ 52:30 Here’s an example of trying to deal with a terrible mistranslation. …And the answer is a grievous, horrific, the worst mistranslation (probably) in the Bible.

Since the divorce, the Bible translators must have gone on a diet, hit the gym, dyed their hair blonde, and gotten implants because Dave was practically drooling over them.

Part 521 – June 29, 2024
@ 25:26 The translators knew in Colossians 2:16, they knew that this was talkin’ about Pentecost. The translators knew Paul had Pentecost in mind. And the world keeps Pentecost.

@ 26:13 They knew what Pentecost was, and they knew that Paul was talking about Sivan.

@ 26:30 Kind of interesting. So, I just thought you’d find it also very helpful if we’re looking for metrics that the translators understood the shadow month was Pentecost.

@ 27:29 These brilliant men who knew Greek and Hebrew understood exactly what month Paul was talking about.

The same men who kept Dave from correctly understanding God’s word for decades are now brilliant for the first time in his life. Wow. A man who claims his enemies as his allies is in a truly sorry state.

But we can tiptoe past that.

 



Despite the biblical evidence, David C. Pack repeats something until it becomes true. He also ignores verses that disprove his current assumption, only to return later and tout those exact skipped words, claiming they make him right this time.

RCG New Moons No Mo

The fleeting love The Restored Church of God once had for New Moon observances started waning almost immediately, maybe because they sometimes kept them on the wrong day.

Once RCG skipped their first service due to a lack of spiritual food, it was apparent there was trouble in paradise. They signaled their doctrinal distancing back in February, much to the chagrin of Edward L. Winkfield, who is no longer smiling about the wonderful gift of New Moons.

Knowledge-free “Understanding New Moons” in November 2023 did little more than admit they did not understand New Moons. This open shame for Edward Winkfield should cause him to think twice before leaping to the front of the room to be the poster child of non-critical thinking.

Dave tiptoed just right, reversing his New Moon doctrines by teaching what Herbert W. Armstrong already knew in the 1950s.

Ah, gee whiz, fellas. Do you mean New Moons are not Holy Days or Sabbaths and should not be kept the same way? If only those Bible verses were more plain.

Dave likes to hammer the same idea over and over as if saying one thing ten times has the same weight as saying ten things once. He desperately sells the concept that there are no services or messages on New Moons. You know, like they used to teach until November last year.

Instead of just reading two verses and putting a button on it after two minutes, Dave squeezed every bit of exhausting juice from the rotten fruit of his biblical understanding. There is a morbid mental conditioning where he will not relent until his audience is drained into weary acceptance.

To elicit empathy for the brethren in the room, note the timestamps between the droning.

@ 34:32 Now, that’s one of the most astonishing discoveries I’ve ever made. So, when you’re talking about eating and drinking just on a regular New Moon… No indication of any kind of Sabbath. Certainly no Holy Day there. So, we’re thinking the church never kept New Moons.

He could have ended here. Instead, twenty more minutes occupy a singular point.

@ 44:52 You know, one of the things I was noticing as I went back and started doing a more diligent research,we’re gonna we’re we’re gonna see we’re gonna keep learning here. There’s nothing about a message on a New Moon. They’re nothing about a Bible study. Now, the church didn’t keep it.

Instead of plaguing Headquarters with more messages, RCG brethren are “encouraged” to just eat something. You know, like every other day of the week.

@ 45:13 So, if I fear God and I’m faithful, then I have to tell you, I’m learning that New Moons are not for the same purpose as Holy Days and Sabbaths are. It’s revel time. So, brethren around the world can revel in this in little groups even if they–alone to try to do it, but there’s no message to try to tune in to. That’s what I began to notice.

@ 46:24 I did the best I knew. It didn’t hurt us to keep eight Bible studies. But I don’t I I can’t find a single bit of evidence that’s what it [marriage in Cana] is. I'll tell you, I’ll tell you wuh-wuh where the confusion lie. Oh, it’s interesting.

@ 49:09 There’s no evidence here or in John 2 that a message occurred. Sacrifices, yes. God wants His people to have a party, but His kind of party.

@ 49:26 There’s a place for Bible studies. You know, we’re having one now. But, coordinating these worldwide has been a great challenge due just to time zones. How do we do this? And the answer is: You aren’t supposed to.

If Dave is pounding on the table, it must be true.

@ 52:42 You you actually you’re you’re left with you have no choice but to believe that because there’s [pounds on the table] no evidence that [pounds on the table] anything [pounds on the table] was ever [pounds on the table] taught [pounds on the table] on [pounds on the table] New Moons.

@ 57:41 So, that’s the closest you’ll ever get to what a New Moon would be. It would be the Night to Be Much Observed.

Okay. We get it. New Moons are unlike Sabbaths or Holy Days and do not have commanded assemblies. This Church Administration email clarified just how unimportant New Moons are now in RCG.

July 5, 2024
Reminder New Moon of Tammuz 1 – Sunday, July 7

Greeting brethren,

This is a reminder that the next New Moon is this coming Sunday, July 7.

As Mr. Pack mentioned in a recent message, there will no longer be a Bible Study on this occasion. Instead, where possible, we encourage you to gather and enjoy a meal and fellowship to commemorate the New Moon.

If you have any questions, please talk to your minister.

Kind regards,
Church Administration

Wade Cox must be super happy Dave set his ball down and walked off the New Moon field leaving him as king of the kook hill.

If Jesus Christ will bring the Kingdom of God on July 7, why did Dave even go down this disavowal road? Because according to RCG, there will be a New Moon that day. Depending on who you believe, it already occurred at 6:59 PM on July 5 or is to be observed on July 6. Either way, RCG no longer needs to fret about accuracy, which has been their custom for many years.

 


David C. Pack tiptoes just right when seeking members’ approval.

Part 521 – June 29, 2024
@ 1:32:28 Hopefully, I’m givin’ you plenty to buzz about in the first part.

Part 522 – June 29, 2024
@ 20:18 I hope you’re finding this as inspiring as in hearing that as I am in delivering it. I just almost don’t want the message to end. But I know, of course, it has to.

He tiptoes just right when he changes the timing for the arrival of the Kingdom of God.

@ 26:58 I wanna correct something. It’s a minor correction, but it’s helpful. It has to do with dawn. Is a dawn arrival (whatever day it is) is a dawn arrival correct?

The short answer is: No. Dawn is not correct. Dave returns to sunset, but it takes him 14 minutes of tiptoeing to get there.

@ 30:21 Once I went back, and just it struck me what our wait won’t be quite as long. If we’re waiting for the New Moon, we’re waiting for the start of it. Not the end of it.

@ 30:38 So, whatever day it is, we’re not waiting for dawn Jerusalem time. So far, it looks like we’re waiting for dusk Jerusalem time.

@ 40:20 Hopefully, that’s helpful and inspiring. It means our wait is a little bit less than we thought. 

@ 40:39 Earlier, like maybe I’m found so doing if am I at home? Or if it’s the fifth [of July], then I’m here in the office and others are, too. Maybe. Maybe. All right. I hope that’s helpful and also inspiring.

Inspired to do what and feel what? That was always a mystery to me while attending RCG and should perplex everyone still there.

 


Dave tiptoed just right through the caveat that nothing could happen on Tammuz 1 due to a delay, and receiving an oracle from God is not all it is cracked up to be.

@ 1:22:59 If we would been told if we learned the date that this would happen by an oracle, no one would be say, "Wait for it." We woulda heard God's voice. Or Gabriel's voice. Or the Angel of the Lord, Christ. You wouldn't say, "Wait for it, it won't tarry," if you heard an oracle. It was a date that had to be discerned. Now, what I cannot explain today I cannot I don't know if it delay, if it delay. Or when it delays or though it delay.

@ 1:27:15 I don’t know how you delayed the Kingdom if we’re just waiting to the first day of the month after the last message. It reads to me like (and I wish it didn't), but it reads like it’s the a delay off of what you might expect.

The delay verses in the Bible will never go away, giving David C. Pack perpetual insulation when the arms of the clock do not relent. He is not God's inspired preacher. He is just teaching what the Bible says, which makes him utterly worthless as a self-proclaimed prophecy expert. Dave doesn't know Jack.

@ 1:27:37 So, if we’re here next week, I believe it will be because there’s more to tell you. Maybe including more details I haven’t shared about the fifth [of Tammuz].

Despite tiptoeing just right, David C. Pack has no special insight, no special discernment, no special inspiration, and is receiving no divine guidance. He is simply a theological narcissist sitting at the front of the room, conning people into assuming what he says means anything because he quotes the Bible.

@ 1:28:26 And if there’s more to say, I’ll learn it through the week. And maybe we’ll all be watching the horror of breakout if that’s what happens.

 If. If. If. I believe. Maybe. If. Maybe. If.

Dave will ALWAYS have more to say, and calling this “The Greatest Unending Story!” is shockingly accurate even when David C. Pack tries to tiptoe just right during Parts 521 and 522. His brash, impossible boldness was nowhere to be found, which was inarguably missing.

Maybe the Pastor General has converted to becoming a verbal pacifist tamed by the ferocious opposition of unnamed enemies who document what he says.

David C. Pack is a hypocritical, blaspheming liar not led by the Holy Spirit to proclaim dates for the return of Jesus Christ. He is a false apostle, false prophet, and false teacher forever denied the glory and fear of men he so desperately seeks.

The righteous are as bold as a lion, but David C. Pack has to tiptoe just right.


Marc Cebrian

See: Tiptoe Just Right



Rod Meredith's Brutal Take Down Of Bob Thiel And His "Egotistical Ideas"


The Great Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel loves to claim that Rod Meredith, Richard Ames, Doug Winnail, and other LCG evangelists/ministers ALL reportedly said that he was a prophet. That is just one more in a long stream of lies that the Great Bwana uses to manipulate people. This is exactly why Living Church of God members and the rest of the Church of God movement have all turned their backs on him. This is also why the lies he says about Gaylyn Bonjour and Dibar Apartian are all figments of his delusions and fantastical imaginations.

"However, Bob, your own remarkable vanity and “dreams of greatness” have greatly affected your ability to think clearly many times. Over the last few years, many of us have noted that you have begun to think of yourself in terms that are not realistic. Also, to abet your desires to be a “great one” in the Work, you have carefully and cleverly twisted and enlarged upon many things people have mentioned to you." -RCM 

"Recently, I had a meeting with Messrs. Ames, Winnail, Wakefield and my son, Jim, to discuss this paper you sent to Mr. Wakefield (and now I see you have also sent it to Messrs. Tyler and Weston). All of us in the meeting except Mr. Wakefield have gotten to know you somewhat and have heard many others express concern about your egotistical ideas that you believe you are a prophet or one of the two witnesses. I will not take the time to argue about every single point you bring up in your paper; that is not the important matter. I will just say that over and over you subtly twist, enlarge upon or exaggerate many of the things you think you heard—some of which you may have “partially heard” but enlarged upon in your own mind and received in a way that was not intended by the one doing the speaking." - also RCM

Hat tip RSK 

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