Sunday, June 30, 2024

Dave Pack: Third Times The Charm - Jesus Returns July 7, 2024



Tammuz Trifecta

The Restored Church of God brethren are still aimlessly wandering in circles through a prophetic lunacy wilderness, passing their decaying biblical beer cans. The members are not trapped in the middle of nowhere. They can make a clean exit anytime but inexplicably choose to stay.

They must enjoy being tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine, particularly when it becomes familiar because the same fraudulent doctrines are proven and disavowed in endless cycles.

During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 376)" at the Ministerial Conference on June 13, 2022, Pastor General David C. Pack started declaring the Hebrew month of Tammuz the target time for the return of Jesus Christ. Back then, Tammuz 1 was the beginning of the 1335.

Flashback Part 379 – June 25, 2022
@ 18:23 It’s impossible that God doesn’t start to “revive His work” on Tammuz 1 in the year of His choosing. …I believe that no less certainly than I believe the seventh day is the Sabbath.

Starting with “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 443)” on May 18, 2023, Tammuz 1’s significance was reinstated, but this time, as the start of the Second Kingdom with Sivan 1 as the beginning of the First. The days wore on, and so did Dave's conviction that he was finally right this time around.

Flashback Part 446 – June 3, 2023
@ 21:32 Now, if you just accept that… then the Kingdom of God has to start on Tammuz 1. It’s impossible.I’m gonna give ya many more points… And since it’s a little over 15 days away, it should be on everybody’s mind… Tammuz 1 is June 19th this year. Next year, it’s July 7th. Way out there.

Wow. We have arrived at "way out there," and Dave still expects brethren to believe him. Only the most mentally damaged in RCG actually get excited.

2024 is the third year in a row that David C. Pack has fixated on Tammuz. He is going for a Tammuz Trifecta but will never be a winner because he races in vain.

Tammuz 2022 failed. Tammuz 2023 failed. Tammuz 2024 will fail.

When Dave shifts to Tammuz 2025, that will also fail. This is the way things are in The Restored Church of Another god because it is led by a hypocritical blaspheming liar who self-appointed himself an apostle, falsely declared he was a prophet to later deny it, steals titles belonging to Jesus Christ, and teaches antichrist theology.

The religious madness of David C. Pack will never end, and he will never change. Anyone who bets their salvation on his guidance and leadership should prepare for abject failure.

 


During "The Greatest Unending Story!" Part 519 on June 20 and Part 520 on June 22, David C. Pack quickly got over Pentecost to focus on the new hot chick in his life: Tammuz 1.

This was not a rash decision based on nonsense because Dave has been super busy with his marathon power sitting like nobody else on Earth.


Part 519 – June 20, 2024
@ 20:32 This [“hear the word of the Lord”] changed me when I studied it. Had I seen these verses or, you know, this is a big book. I’ve studied prophecy in this whole period for about 25,000 hours. That shouldn’t be hard to believe because I’ve preached for almost 1,000. And I’m talkin’ about just the Series. And yet, it never occurred to me to to study that.

Just during “The Greatest Untold Story!” Series, David C. Pack has studied the Bible for 25,000 hours and still cannot get it right. That alone speaks volumes about the futility of his unproductive pursuits, and it should scream to everyone in The Restored Church of God that the True God is not behind this.

Dave must think Jeremiah cheated because God touched his lips, and words of truth came out of his mouth. God created the tongue and told Moses he knew how to make his mouth work the way He needed. And it is entirely unfair to Dave that corner-cutter John the Baptist heard an audible utterance from God and knew exactly where to go and what to do.

Throughout the Bible, God helped His servants accomplish their tasks effectively and get prophetic doctrines correct out of the gate. But for David C. Pack…not so much.

A person can become a doctor after studying for 25,000 hours. But imagine that doctor embodied such gross incompetence that every patient died on the table. Think: 100% of his patients died. With that kind of horrific statistical data, responsible governing bodies in the world know to forcefully remove that doctor’s ability to continue killing people.


But in the Church of God religious sphere, inept false teachers like David C. Pack are allowed to continue bungling without consequence because complacency and cowardice are the driving forces keeping people glued to their chairs.

The hireling enablers at The Restored Church of God Headquarters willfully allow their idol madman to vomit poison on the sheep while they smugly sit with their perfect Sabbath haircuts and cufflinks, just knowing they are in the true church leaving it for God to prove who is on the right side of history.

They are not too blind to see the answer was provided in August 2013. They just chose to ignore it.

 


All those 25,000 hours of study are really paying off now because Dave finally has the simple, correct, and complete picture that will totally never change. Like, totally never.


@ 38:05 So, could our pursuit finally be simple? God is saying, “Get this. I’m telling you it’s a moed.” 

The Kingdom, beginning on a moed, is so important that David C. Pack invented a fraudulent one to make Pentecost fit. He brazenly invented a hidden New Moon on the tenth of each month. But that "new truth" did not last long, and Wade Cox no longer needs to breathe into a brown paper bag.

@ 38:16 If you can’t determine midst of the years, how can you know the coming did not delay? God would be mocking us. “I’m mocking you. I won’t tell you what this date is. But, I’ll tell you it won't delay, and you better hold on to a date, and I'm not gonna tell it to you." Now, you tell me how that works. I've seen that for a long time, but we just never got the right date. We didn’t have enough understanding.

Dave’s 11-year fallback position of never having enough understanding mocks his 25,000 hours.

@ 38:45 We would have to know the target date. Well, it wasn’t Sivan 1. It wasn’t Pentecost. Then, when? I knew we would eventually (I'm gonna just keep repeating this), hafta know. We just [chuckles] never did yet.

Dave still does not know. Tammuz 1 is his annual flash-in-the-pan obsession despite his optimistic proclamations. Take note of this for later when he admits how uncomfortable he was with Tammuz, the Trifecta Edition.


@ 39:04 Now, we’re gonna examine dozens (actually scores) of points, and it’s time to get it right.

The following statement is so very odd coming from the man who repeats that the Laodicean era is about people who “rule, judge, and decide,” and what a spiritually lukewarm position that is.

@ 39:23 You can be your own judge. You can be and should be and should prepare yourself now to be your own judge of the date you believe the clues we will study point to. I’m gonna give you dozens, scores of them. Some of them you’ve heard before in a different setting, but they they apply more more correctly.

Adults in The Restored Church of God who are their own judges are typically suspended or cast out permanently. If you “grow a voice,” you are shown the door.

If anyone at Headquarters took Dave’s advice and, during the meal, openly doubted what they were taught, the hireling enablers would be all over them as fast as the snitcher could tattle.

David C. Pack is a proven false apostle, false prophet, and false teacher who blatantly lies to the church so often he forgot what speaking the truth is like. Judging anything like that is a one-way ticket to the parking lot. Because, you know, Dave never takes that stuff personally. Wink, wink.

The dozens, scores of points cannot apply “more correctly” because they were never correct to begin with. Taking assumptions already proven false and recycling them does not produce a more accurate assumption. It is just recycled fraud. Garbage in, garbage out.

This is the open insanity of doctrines in The Restored Church of God.

 



David C. Pack admitted he had to tiptoe through Parts 519 and 520 because of ferocious opposition from his enemies, so the ideal, clear, and tight YouTube fodder regarding Tammuz 1 is elusive.


Part 519 – June 20, 2024
@ 42:54 So, you gotta begin to be a little bit suspicious of of Tammuz 1, which is 16 days away.

@ 44:26 Tammuz is the first New Moon of summer after the latter rain ends.

@ 55:00 And until we understood the Day of Atonement, we had no chance to correctly understand the date we’re looking for. I hope you have goosebumps on your goosebumps right now.

@ 56:16 I got about 60 points here, and we've covered 6. So, we're about a tenth done. You could almost argue let’s just let’s just wait 16 days, and let’s just close the Bible and go have dinner.

Dave finally had a good idea but would never do that. Never. His insatiable ego could never allow anyone to wait and see with what they had already heard. He is determined to bore them to death with every single minute idea, notion, theory, and presumption he can conjure. He longs to be special and needs the limelight to sustain him.

@ 1:00:21 Why on Earth would God bring us to the split second of the midst of those years that have been going on for about 6,000 of them and expect us to think we’re working off of any other math?

@ 1:06:06 And, sure enough, Tammuz 1 was Sunday. It had me very suspicious for over a month. So, Pentecost, ironically, being a Sunday three weeks earlier was also a shadow in the sense of being a Sunday.

@ 1:11:30 And then about a month ago, …I said I'm gonna take a look at Tammuz, and I found a Sunday, and I that’s when I waved my long Tammuz list with proofs that have now doubled in number. And I was suspicious of Tammuz. Along came Pentecost.

@ 1:12:49 This perfectly fits a Sunday Tammuz 1.

Dave held up the Tammuz 1 list during Part 516 on June 8.


Or you can watch his list fetish in action.


 


If you think this next quote hurts your brain, remember that some RCG members are trying to follow his logic.


Part 520 – June 22, 2024
@ 44:47 If the Kingdom begins on Tammuz 1 and you count forward 1,230 days (this would be the 1,290 moment), you count forward from a dawn 1,230 days, you arrive at a Friday dawn. But only if you count from Tammuz and only if you count from a Sunday. It’s 175 weeks and five days left over. So, from Sunday 175 weeks later is a Sunday. Five more days, it’s Friday dawn. Go! Right now. I mean, and why? Because days are short.

@ 47:29 There's no possible way it will ever work unless it's Tammuz, and it's Tammuz this year. This is crucial. Even a one-month delay to Av puts flight at two days later. It’s Sunday dawn after the Sabbath. And Elul is worse. And Trumpets is worse than that. They don’t work. And Cheshvan is the worst of all because you’d be fleeing right on the Sabbath at dawn.

@ 48:47 I knew God was gonna resolve this by math. And there's one more big math thing we're gonna learn here in a bit. But this is powerful.

Something David C. Pack is incapable of performing in 3…2…1…

@ 48:55 An honest reading of Scripture in Matthew 24, I would say, and as God’s servant trying to do his best up here, demands a Tammuz start. And in the year 2024. Because a Sunday Tammuz 1 is required for this.

@ 49:22 It’s it’s math. Was God playing with us? Was He just playing with our heads when He said, “Pray that your flight iddn’t on the Sabbath?” Or did He mean it? I could never figure out which year it it came. While far from the only proof, this may be the most powerful proof of month and year, month and year in the Bible. In 2025, all of that math just vanishes. Poof. Even if you got to Tammuz 1.

In 2025, David C. Pack will devise new stone-cold biblical math that will fit “perfectly.” This new midst of the years triad theory will not last long either.

@ 54:44 How many kinds of years are being unified into one at the start of the Kingdom to Israel? In fact, it’s inarguable that God is unifying all three kinds of years. It’s inarguable, brethren…

@ 55:19 “…and God says, “I’m gonna merge, but I’m also gonna merge them with this year in the fall.” So, where you have three kinds of years, three kinds of years: solar, lunar, and release or liberty, God says, "I'm gonna make one, and it's gonna last for the rest of time."

@ 55:57 He had to have had them in mind when He said, "the midst of the years." So, what we’re looking for is the intersection of three kinds of years. Not two. And it I it you can’t even argue with it because God ends solar years as an independent measurement that’s been around for six thousand years. He ends them.

@ 58:17 …the midst of three kinds of years where God is triangulating a date, and that brings you to Tammuz 1. That is blow outta the water in any year where you don’t have you’re not somewhere near July 1st.

@ 1:01:27 I would say, prove this is not what God intended. [laugh] If you say, well, I mean if it, you know, it’s what He does. So, midst of the years absolutely must be when three kinds of years are integrated into one forever. Prove this is not what God intended when it’s absolutely what the facts say He does.

On Monday, July 8, this will be pretty easy to prove by just hitting the snooze button on your alarm clock.

@ 1:04:16 It meant we’re never gonna figure that out, neither was Mr. Pack until until it was shown to me.

Shown by what? Not God. Not the Holy Spirit. Come July 8, David C. Pack will expose himself as a biblical fraud for the 83rd time and that he is doing all of this on human steam powered by incompetent religious delusion.

@ 1:34:46 The Series is almost over. What things could be remotely big enough to occupy four more weeks through Tammuz should this be necessy–what would I talk to you about?

@ 1:38:58 Could I miss something over the last month-plus of examining Tammuz? It would have to be so big, so massive, so so Everest-like, so Titanic that it can outweigh all a this. [lists] It’s all I can say. I’d settled Tammuz 1 in mid-whet May but then turned to Pentecost for reasons we all know. Because of the last about 55 points, Tammuz 1 appears to fit the date that cannot delay.

@ 1:39:34 But, you gotta be your own judge. I mean, you’re supposta be looking at the facts and and ask yourself, “What do I believe?” Not, “What did Mr. Pack say? I’m-uh-nuh hide behind him.”

Brethren of The Restored Church of God, obey your Pastor General and be your own judge.

This Tammuz Trifecta is a losing endeavor, and by the time you sip your coffee on July 8, you will be shown plain evidence exposing David C. Pack as a false teacher and that God is not inspiring him.

Or you can keep racing in circles with no winning finish line because you are backing the wrong horse.


Marc Cebrian

See: Tammuz Trifecta

Saturday, June 29, 2024

"Theological illusionist David C. Pack took another one on the chin..."

 


Smoke and Mirrors

Theological illusionist David C. Pack took another one on the chin when the Kingdom of God did not arrive at The Restored Church of God Headquarters Campus on Pentecost, June 16, 2024.

After spending 4 hours and 16 minutes waving his long, powerful lists in the air proving Pentecost 2024 was the day Jesus Christ would return to pat him on the back with a world-witnessed attaboy, the Pastor General flinched in the concluding 63 seconds to extinguish all his momentum by prognosticating his own inevitable failure. 

It was a little bitch move.

Predictably, Dave later clung to that thin lifeline of being right about being wrong for the 82nd time since March 2022. In advance of Pentecost, an anonymous email from Church Administration blessed the brethren with another “my Lord delays His coming” declaration.

During "The Greatest Unending Story!" Part 519 on June 20 and Part 520 on June 22, David C. Pack pushed on by dissolving the past and recycling his notes, promising a brighter future.

But that is a cheap parlor trick consisting of smoke and mirrors.

Jesus Christ Brings the Kingdom of God
July 7, 2024
Sunrise on Tammuz 1 at 6:02 AM ET

A brief summary of Parts 519 and 520 is for the skimmers:

•  Pentecost was “a shadow” of Tammuz 1.
•  Tammuz 1 is the new date that was declared through careful implication rather than declaration.
•  The Kingdom comes in summer, not spring.
•  The falsely imagined New Moon on the 10th of each month was abandoned.
•  Midst of the Years is when three types of years intersect.
•  David C. Pack has logged over 25,000 hours of Bible study during the Series.
•  David C. Pack’s enemies are mocking.
•  RCG members leave because they do not believe God.
•  Herbert W. Armstrong was not a false prophet, so David C. Pack is not a false prophet.

David C. Pack is the most insecure narcissist you will ever meet, who consistently shrinks away from a date as it approaches because he knows the truth: Dave doesn’t know Jack.



 


Expressing a medical-grade learning disability, Wadsworth's resident false apostle, false prophet, and false teacher walks in the same circles, repeating the same mistakes. Even though nothing but depleted checking accounts occurred on Pentecost, the prophetic bungle still had a bright side.


Part 519 – June 20, 2024
@ 00:04 Well, here we are. You’ll learn why I thought we would be. All the complicated or maybe should say complications and gymnastics of how the Kingdom could arrive on Pentecost (the tenth of a month) are over.

This smoke and mirrors introductory wordplay obscures two embarrassing points Dave did not want to admit: 1) Brethren will learn why Dave thought they would be there instead of why he was wrong. 2) The New Moon he invented on the tenth of each month to force the circle moed into the triangle slot Pentecost was immediately abandoned.

@ 00:24 I can’t describe just, from a personal perspective, the peace this brought when I discovered (well, discovered it several days before Pentecost), I I was suspicious at the end of the week. I spoke on Tuesday. I’d been suspicious for a long time, but what finally came to bear is what will come out today.

Like when Dr. Strange lamented that the warnings come after the spell, David C. Pack confesses his hidden doubts about his own teachings after it is too late. Instead of NOT teaching something he was troubled by, the self-centered hireling pushes through his discomfort to preach it anyway. Brethren be damned.

David C. Pack’s state of mind and well-being broadcast which spirit drives him. The brethren still attending The Restored Church of God reading this right now should seriously consider which being they are supporting by giving this spiritually bankrupt organization their money. You KNOW Dave is a false apostle, yet you stay because you value the social club aspect more than holding fast to what you know to be true.

Your continued attendance and financial support promote religious madness. You already know this. If you think God will step in and push what your eyes and ears already tell you, then you are playing a smoke and mirrors game with yourself. You reap what you sow, folks.

After Dave was warmed up, his Pentecost confessional became less opaque.

@ 33:43 And we know, as I knew all along, but then Pentecost kinda fogged in for reasons I’ll will explain. We’re looking for a New Moon. It’s pretty simple. You know I’ve been suspicious for over a month about various dates. But, again, I’ll just say, a shadow got in the way [chuckles].

It is not Dave’s fault. That pesky Pentecost shadow fogged things up.

@ 41:15 One thing bothered me about Pentecost, and I didn't know what to do about it. It was it's it's still in spring. We need a New Moon that’s in summer.

And just like that, one prophetically timed season snaps to become another. The Pentecost backpedaling continued in Part 520 with obvious sleight-of-hand excuses.

Part 520 – June 22, 2024
@ 17:02 And and so, I thought because of so many verses on dawn I’m gonna show you I thought, “Well, maybe it is Pentecost." Rather than, it was a shadow.

@ 1:29:17 It's very important for the picture of what was seen on Pentecost. We we know that it carries many elements of shadow. Now think. Here are some of the areas of shadow. And I got confused near the end because I thought, “Well, okay, it has to be a great day. Pentecost is a great day.” 

@ 1:29:51 And so it's I I I I'll hope you'll excuse me. I'll excuse myself for getting confused. I wish I hadn't.

David C. Pack is quite generous when it comes to forgiving himself. His most merciful leniency is reserved for when he looks in the mirror. Not so much for those he would like to see cast into the Lake of Fire.

All of his rationale for why nothing happened on Pentecost is just verbal smoke and mirrors.

 


With an uneventful Pentecost in the rearview mirror, it is time for Website Services to strike these from Member Services:

Flashback Part 514 – May 25, 2024
@ 1:13:42 I told you I knew exactly when this was, and that’s true. I know it’s in spring.

Flashback Part 517 – June 8, 2024
@ 40:15 It would almost be an act of deception by God to lay out all of this and say, “Sorry. Fooled you. Joke’s on you.”

@ 1:09:59 In fact, could we even learn that every 10th of the month, goin' backwards and forwards forever, is a New Moon?

This fleeting New Moon heresy was conjured by a mentally corrupt sorcerer and his whipping boys in the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium. The wooden walls encase a perverse think tank where biblical truth is twisted to death.

Flashback Part 518 – June 11, 2024
@ 49:32 All those things began to build up in my mind, and I think God was preparing me for years to come to understand the 10th, but not until it was we were ready.

David C. Pack's Pentecost 2024 failure proves God was NOT preparing him for years to understand this. The lying false apostle's plain words accuse himself, and the RCG brethren will not hear it. He tells everyone what they need to hear to judge whether he speaks the truth or not.

@ 1:29:50 This is some of the deepest things of God I’ve ever been blessed to teach.

Time exposes that there was no blessing and the doctrines were not from God. Yet, the picnics are sometimes fun, so keep paying this man to lie to you, brethren.

 



During Parts 519 and 520, David C. Pack’s list fetish was fully engorged as if waving his worthless and partially recycled lists provided any credibility since all the previous lists failed to produce accurate results.

David C. Pack holds his lists up before the entire congregation, and he strikes the rock with promises that water will burst forth. But none ever does. During Old Testament times, that would have justifiably been stone-picking time.


@ 39:04 Now, we’re gonna examine dozens. Actually scores of points, and it’s time to get it right.

@ 56:15 I don’t know how many points. I got about 60 points here, and we've covered 6. So, we’re about a tenth done.

About an hour into Part 519, he is only on Point #6. I left RCG three years ago, but I still feel that sinking internal cringe of anticipating hours more of pointless suffering in the Main Hall meat locker. Brethren endure countless ruined Sabbaths at Headquarters in The Restored Church of God. That is lost time, and we will never get back.

David C. Pack admits something that should embarrass everyone in RCG in 3…2…1…

@ 1:20:06 Now, there are some [Tammuz 1] points that roll right over from the Pentecost list.

His proofs can be swapped between differing conclusions, illustrating their flexible worthlessness.


Part 520 – June 22, 2024
@ 42:09 But I told you, the list of things I’ve been looking at for a long time was that long list, and over time, it kept growing.

When God charges a chosen servant to relay vital information to His people, it is God's responsibility for them to get it right the first time. David C. Pack adopted the "trial and error leads us closer to success” philosophy, which may work in entrepreneurship but is proof of false leadership in prophetic theology.

The Bible gives anyone a single chance to prove God is backing them. David C. Pack was revealed to be a prophetic fraud on August 30, 2013. He is forever invalidated, and nothing biblical will happen on July 7.


David C. Pack was never commanded to hit the rock, talk to it, or drop it on his foot. No water will ever spring forth. He was not sent, yet he ran. He rushes to call out lunacy with his arms waving in the air.

His endless lists will never produce fruit. Compiling, reading, and holding them up is a smoke and mirrors technique devoid of substance that is no more valuable than the hot air that blathered them.


 


When brethren flee The Restored Church of God, they do so because they have proven from the Bible that David C. Pack is false. They know the cowardly enablers at Headquarters willfully support their human idol with feigning lips, spreading wickedness with lying tongues.

That truth is distorted through smoke and mirrors.


Part 519 – June 20, 2024
@ 11:36 We know that 90% 90% of Israel will blow it off. That’s why I I I’m often comforted when I see people who understand this [7-Year] Kingdom is set up, and no other church on the face of the earth has or ever has, does or ever has understood it. They’ll just blow it off, and I I, and I don’t take it personally. I know they just simply don’t believe God.

Dave absolutely takes it personally. Former ministers tell many stories of him getting incensed when someone openly disagrees with him in the most minor matters. David C. Pack’s Greatest Hissy Fit during Part 430 is an appropriate reminder of how Dave reacts to indifference.

@ 12:21 You know, we have modern scoffers today. We know they’re gonna be scoffers in this Kingdom. They just don’t believe.

We do not believe you, Dave. You are a documented hypocritical liar and blasphemer.

@ 22:34 And I we have people leave us all the time. [chuckles] Many come in, but we have people leave us all the tuh. They absolutely want nothing to do with what God tells them to do.

It is easier for him to accept people leave because they disregard God rather than he is wrong.




Still deceptively beating the drum that he is not a false prophet by being born again as a staunch Elijah-denier (wink wink), he gives the unpaid field mollusks more quotes to hide behind when quizzed.


Part 520 – June 22, 2024
@ 1:36:13 Apparently, the Series, in some way, prophesied. If it if you prophesy again, then you prophesy again. I I do not claim to be a prophet. But why people all believe That Prophet would first be human?

@ 1:36:45 John the Baptist. “Are you That Prophet?” He said no. If somebody asks me, I’ll say the same thing. I won’t I I I won’t claim to be a prophet.

His insatiable ego craves biblical specialness so desperately, Dave wishfully projects the accolades of the brethren in 3…2…1…

@ 1:36:53 “Well, you should, Mr. Pack!” Well, maybe I should, then, pray for me because I’m not gonna do it. Was it inspired preaching?

That is like a man adamantly asserting he will not commit adultery after having already committed adultery. History on the internet is hard to erase, Dave.


@ 1:37:56 Either way, prophesying or inspired preaching would seem to add credence to Tuh to Tammuz. I mean, tell ya, you you you judge what you think my words are.

David C. Pack's words are neither prophesying nor inspired preaching. His prophet denials are smoke and mirrors tricking new or amnesiac brethren.

 


The self-appointed apostle is so woefully inept he never considers the implications of his own words. David C. Pack is screaming to the members of The Restored Church of God that God is not guiding him, nor is he moved by the Holy Spirit to preach what he does.


@ 1:43:42 'Cause this, remember. If you wait, if you wait one month, boy, that’s it for eternity. You think that didn’t weigh incredibly heavily on me. I mean, it was it was one of the most stressful periods of my life trying to put all this together. I’ll just say that. …So, but I’ll just tell ya, you know, when when you when you when YOU settle on a date, you are settling on an eternal date. You don’t want that pressure on you. I promise you.

An authentic, inspired spokesman for God would not feel pressured because the man is not settling on any date. He is only conveying what God already chose. The pressure is on God to get it right, not the human conduit. A faithful end time messenger would not feel such stress about what God is doing because God is doing it, not him.

This demonstrates David C. Pack does not believe God is revealing this to him, but the self-assigned mouthpiece has to “figure out” what God wants. That is the fatal flaw in believing he can receive an utterance from God without actually hearing an utterance from God.

David C. Pack does not believe David C. Pack because nobody should.

If you think he does not take reasonable opposition personally, ask yourself why he keeps the victimhood card in his back pocket. Anyone who reminds Dave of what he said is counted as an enemy.

@ 1:44:14 You have no idea how many of our enemies are sitting out there mocking what I took on there nobody else even saw. You have no idea.

From what others tell me, plenty of RCG brethren have an idea because they read these articles on exrcg.org and Banned by HWA. Yes. They have a pretty good idea, Dave. Hi, Brad.

Dave then builds the most colossal straw man argument while standing behind the dead shadow of Herbert W. Armstrong of The Worldwide Church of God.


@ 1:44:28 Nobody thought Mr. Armstrong was a false prophet when he thought the Millennium was the First Kingdom. He wuddn’t a false prophet. You could ask, “Was he?”

Dave offers a series of plastic questions that are apples to oranges comparisons. Hollow questions about the Millennium, the New Heavens and New Earth, and the Day of the Lord are carefully worded because they focused on WCG doctrines, NOT date setting.

His warped logic is easy to discern and is pure smoke and mirrors. Non-critical thinkers like Edward Winkfield may accept it all at the surface level, but that smoke is so dilute you can see the huge cracks in the glass.

It is topped off with more woe-is-me, where Dave finally admits why he relied so much on smoke and mirrors techniques during Parts 519 and 520.

Part 520 – June 22, 2024
@ 1:45:36 He had 59 years. I had under nine years working alone with ferocious opposition. And boy, if I if I don’t tiptoe just right you you you just can’t even believe. You can’t even believe.

David C. Pack had to tiptoe just right due to ferocious opposition. Like all the servants of God in the Bible had to. He is a one-man show doing this on his own steam, brethren. Hear him when he tells you that.

The righteous are as bold as a lion. Biblical frauds tiptoe with verbal smoke and mirrors.


Marc Cebrian




But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were jutisfied...



Washed, Sanctified, Justified, and Glorified in Jesus


Too many of the folks who profess to be disciples of Jesus Christ are ignorant of what his life, death, resurrection, and ascension accomplished for us. Unfortunately, a large number of Christians are operating under the mistaken assumption that their good works will save them from death and eternal damnation. Scripture, however, is explicit about the fact that this is accomplished for us by Jesus of Nazareth. Even so, some of these folks continue to believe that they have a significant role to play in their own salvation! Moreover, they falsely accuse those of us who do understand how we are saved of antinomianism - rejecting or doing away with any obligation on our part to be moral or righteous. They say that we effectively turn grace into a license to sin, but nothing could be further from the truth!

In this regard, one of their favorite proof texts is drawn from Paul's first letter to the saints at Corinth (which they twist and pervert in the same manner they do the rest of the Scriptures). In that epistle, the Apostle Paul upbraided Christ's disciples for squabbling among themselves, and even appealing to the secular courts to settle their disputes with each other (I Corinthians 6:1-8). He went on to write: "do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality (male prostitutes), nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." (I Corinthians 6:9-11, ESV)

Paul was pointing out that their current behavior did not reflect the reality of what Christ had done for them. He went on to remind them of what Christ had done for them. Paul said that Christ had washed or cleansed them of their sins, had sanctified them (made them Holy), and justified them (imputed his righteousness to them). In other words, he was pointing out that their sinful behavior was more of a reflection of their former sinful life than one that reflected what Christ had accomplished for them! Instead, they were acting like folks who had NOT been redeemed by Jesus - like folks who would NOT be a part of God's Kingdom. The apostle was effectively reiterating a principle which Christ had taught his disciples during his earthly ministry - good trees produce good fruit, and bad trees produce bad fruit.

Paul went on to remind them that they were now Christ's, and that the way that they lived their lives should reflect the fact that they had been given the gift of God's Holy Spirit. Hence, once again, things like practicing sexually immorality and engaging with prostitutes was inconsistent with the reality of their new life in Christ (I Corinthians 6:12-20).

Likewise, in his epistle to Christ's disciples at Rome, Paul told them that Jesus Christ had freed them from the Law of sin and death and had given them the Holy Spirit to assist them in their new life (Romans 8:1-11). He went on to explain that the Spirit had made them Sons of God, and that they would be glorified with him someday (Romans 8:12-17). Paul continued: "For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us...For in this hope we were saved. Now hope that is seen is not hope. For who hopes for what he sees? But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait for it with patience." (Romans 8:18-25, ESV) He concluded his thought: "Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified." (Romans 8:26-30, ESV)

So, we see from Paul's perspective that Jesus Christ accomplished: 1. cleansing us of our sins, 2. making us Holy before God, 3. the imputation of Christ's righteousness to us, and 4. making us able to host God's Spirit. This is salvation through Jesus Christ! Now, we should also state that Paul makes clear that these things are accomplished by Christ both immediately and over the course of our lifetimes on this planet. Even so, it is God who decided that we would be called to Christ and saved - redeemed from sin and death and given eternal life with God. Yes, the wages of sin is DEATH, but eternal life is God's GIFT to us through Jesus Christ (Romans 6:23). There is NOTHING that you or I can do to acquire this gift. Nevertheless, if we have truly accepted the gift, our behavior will reflect that reality!

 Miller Jones/Lonnie C Hendrix