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Friday, December 31, 2010
Thursday, December 30, 2010
Are UCG Members Catching On To Jumping Jack Salyer?
Salyer has jumped from one COG splinter group to another in the past few years. It seems like once he gets in a new group all hell breaks loose and churches start having problems. Let's send him to Meredith and Flurry's groups next! Maybe he can run back to Meredith 'with trembling lips' like Raymond McNair did.
This little tidbit was on a Yahoo forum :
Apparently it breaks down by area. I understand the Houston area, which is a large church area for UCG, has lost up to 70 % of the membership, as well as in the Kansas church areas the majority of membership has gone with Greg Sergeant. Whereas in Louisiana apparently, the church membership has stayed with UCG mostly, even though Mr. Salyer left.
Shouting Matches, Ethical Ministers, Men of Integrity........NOT!
Imagine heading into church one day and having your former minister stand there and tell you that you would be having church in the same place, same time, same minister, only the church name had changed.
The shouting matches are happening too.
Those ethical Christan ministers who left to form splinter personality cults would NEVER do such a thing would they? No sirree Bob! Ethics is the number one priority of all those splitting off UCG and for those remaining in UCG. These are men of integrity! Yep! Men of integrity................excuse me as I puke......
In Bethlehem, PA, Roy Holladay spoke. Paul Luecke had already resigned, but King Finlay [UCG elder and father in law of Clyde K] was there. After the meeting there was a pot luck, and after that what amounted to a shouting match. Brethren surrounded Roy Holladay and barraged him with questions. There were angry folks on both sides, but mostly on King’s side. Roy Holladay reportedly maintained his cool throughout.
King Finlay announced that they would be meeting in a grange the next week, but in 2 weeks they would be meeting at the normal UCG place at the normal time and that Paul Luecke will be their pastor. He said those remaining with UCG could meet at 10 in AM. Since then, I have heard that some of the members going with King Finlay and Paul Leuke and told them they didn’t agree with treating their friends that way. Now they are going to meet at the grange and leave the UCG group with the normal meeting place.
Reportedly, Bethlehem’s sister congregation, York [about 15 people] apparently the local elder there is going with Paul Leuke and they are combining with the Bethlehem group.
In WV, John Foster got up in his congregations and told them they would be meeting same place, same time, same pastor, just in new church.
I was told that much the same thing went on in areas of Florida and Texas.
Local corporations were set up to facilitate this split and then will join loosely together in Jan. Later as they prove unable to stand alone, a new conference will meet to reassess and build a stronger more centralized oraginization.
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