Rod Meredith Responds to LCG Members Concerns About Bob Thiel

Yesterday a reader posted a letter reportedly from Rod Meredith discussing the concerns that some LCG members are having with Bob Thiel speaking as if he was the voice of the Living Church of God.  When I read it, I thought this really does sound like something Meredith would write.  Then the original poster responded that it was authentic and a couple of other people also agreed that they think it is authentic.  Is it real or a hoax?  If it really is a hoax then someone really knows how to impersonate Rod Meredith to a "t."

I know several LCG members who are quite concerned about prophet Bob's latest book critical of President Obama.  Add to that the use of sources that have traditionally been looked upon by the Church of God as pagan or demonic and you have even more concern by Church of God members

Thiel is now bragging on his blog that he has been cited as a credible source on end times prophecy on MSNBC and the Washington Post.  Prophet Bob is still the face of the Living Church of God when he does this.

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Below is the letter reportedly from Rod Meredith:

From the Presiding Evangelist

Dear Fellow Servants of Christ,

An important matter has just come that I want to alert all of you faithful servants of Christ about. It involves Dr. Robert Thiel. While Dr. Thiel has declared himself to be a loyal member of the Living Church of God and has helped us in many ways with interesting ideas, suggestions and personal help, we do feel it is important for all of you to know that he is not our official “spokesman” in any way. He has written a number of things with which we do not agree.

Dr. Thiel has just published a highly speculative book about President Obama much of which we do not agree with. So it is important that all of you realize that—although I love Dr. Thiel personally—it is vital that each of you brethren check out carefully and prove to yourself whether any of his writings are valid if you read them. Although he has not stated it as such, some of our brethren may have assumed that Dr. Robert Thiel is an “official” spokesman for the Church on many matters. We want you to fully understand that this is not so. He is not in our employ, nor does he officially represent us in any way. So although we continue to wish him well, we do want everyone to know that when it comes to some of his unusual writings or concepts, they must stand on their own and not be represented as something from the Living Church of God. If you have questions about this matter, please counsel with your own local faithful Living Church of God minister.

In these difficult times, let us all be careful to “prove all things” and be sure where we stand before God. Also, we certainly want to love and forgive one another and keep working together in every way we can to accomplish the great mission Christ has set before us. Thank you for your understanding, your prayers and your loyalty.

With Christian love,
Roderick C. Meredith

          September 6, 2012 8:13 PM 



I do have to hand it to Rod Meredith in distancing himself from prophet Bob's books.  They are all highly speculative and about as useful in understanding prophecy  as Ron Weinland's 2008 God's Final Witness and The Prophesied End-Time are. We have all seen in the last year how well those books have worked out for Ron Weinland and his church. Prophet Bob's books have the potential to actually cause Living Church of God undo "persecution."  The track record of the Churches of God in bringing trials and tribulation upon themselves are legendary. 

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Living Church of God: First It Was The Mayans, Then The Catholics, Now It's Obama

Bob Thiel, the official spokesman for the Living Church of God and it's teachings, has written another book.  This one is about President Obama.  Armstrongism has always aligned itself politically to the right. So it is no shock to see Thiel, Meredith and Flurry speaking against Obama.

So just where is Naturopath Bob getting all of his information from that he presents in his book?

Citing Islamic, Kenyan, Catholic, Byzantine, and Bible prophecy, as well as the writings of Nostradamus

All sources that the supposedly the "true Church of God" consider pagan to the core.  Well at least most of the other COG's.  Living apparently now endorses Nostradamus. Nostradamus certainly cannot have a worse track record than Rod Meredith does when it comes to prophecy.  I say go for it!

Shortly after announcing my latest book Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States Tuesday, it became number one on Kindle for its category (Christianity: Theology: Eschatology/Prophecy).   This is a 160 page book for people truly interested in prophecies related to Barack Obama and the United States, including learning about many predictions that have already been fulfilled (which the book documents in detail) and those that will be fulfilled in the future. It also has a chapter about Mitt Romney. This book is available to order at www.barackobamaprophecy.com for US$9.98.

This book explains about how, by virtue of his background and policies, Barack Obama is fulfilling, and will continue to help fulfill, various prophecies that will lead to the destruction of the United States. 

Not intended as an anti-Democratic nor pro-Republican book, “Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States” also tells the truth about Mitt Romney and why his possible election would also lead to destruction.  It answers questions such as “Is Barack Obama apocalyptic?” and “Is Barack Obama the Antichrist?”  Citing Islamic, Kenyan, Catholic, Byzantine, and Bible prophecy, as well as the writings of Nostradamus and others, “Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States” explains from many source where, why, when, and even some of how, the various aspects of destruction will come.
Listed Chapters

1. Barack Obama and Hebrew Prophecy
2. Barack Obama, Islamic Prophecy, and 2013-2015
3. Is Barack Obama the Antichrist?
4. The Names “Barack,” “Hussein,” “Obama,” and Kenyan Prophecy
5. 17 Reasons Why Barack Obama is Apocalyptic
6. The Malachy Prophecies
7. Nostradamus and Barack Obama
8. Mitt Romney and Prophecy
9. The King of the North, Barack Obama, and the End of the United States and its Anglo-allies
10. Barack Obama is Fulfilling End Time Prophecy

M John Allen: Passive Aggressive Prophet Calls It Quits (Again)

Armstrongism's greatest prophet lives in Costa Rica and his name is M John Allen.  I have featured the mindless rantings of Prophet John on this blog before.  Today he is ticked yet again at the unworthiness of his followers.  He starts out his post in his usual manner, all warm and fuzzy:

For several years now our website has been woefully in need of upgrading, and still is.

I am now working to get the body of my work in an accessible format by uploading one episode per day to Talkshoe, and have begun recording new material again.

Despite my recent amputation and my continuing recovery, I have increased the amount of effort I'm personally putting in.

His web site is pathetically bad, really, really bad!  Allen has several sites up.  One on COG theology, and others dealing with investing in off shore accounts, human potential drivel and hypnosis. He also produces video sermons that are hysterically baaaaaaaad! His sites include:  Restoration; SuccessQuest; Ambassador Foundation; Hypnosis; Global Financial Security; Off Shore Cashier; Off ShorEarnings; So Ya Wanna Move To Costa Rica?; Assisted Living Costa Rica; and more.  All just as equally bad is the first.

Allen then switches to his aggressive mode as he writes to the heretics and mockers out there as he compares his persecution to that of Jesus:

But, do I receive gratitude in return? No. I receive criticism and complaining when I faithfully follow the living Jesus Christ in directions that your hidebound attitudes and traditions of men disagree with.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Christ Himself was chastised by the Pharisees for associating with "prostitutes and drunkards," and was accused of being an illegitimate child and any other nasty thing the Pharisees could think of.

His disciples were "wrong" for picking grain in the field as they walked on the Sabbath to satisfy their hunger. He was wrong for healing a blind man on the Sabbath. And on and on the whining, bitching, and complaining of the Pharisees continued because he wasn't "their" kind of savior!

And years ago I expressed this same sentiment and was condemned by one of the modern day pharisees for it. What a hypocritical jerk he was.

I, in the company of Jesus Christ, expressed in a message once that I was more comfortable around worldly people sometimes. Funny thing is, so was Jesus Christ.

He was welcomed into the homes of "publicans and sinners" with open arms. And those evil gentiles, the Samaritans, liked him too. So Jesus gave us the story of the Good Samaritan to slap the Pharisees directly in the face. Boy did that sting but they only plotted to kill Him all the more instead of looking at what was wrong with themselves and repenting.

Sad to say, many so called "Christians" today are simply an updated version of the blind and hypocritical Pharisees. They bitch, they moan, they complain, they have closed minds..... If the truth hit them up side the head they wouldn't recognize it! And Christ? Oh, they leave HIM
outside the door knocking because there is no room in their lives for Him and His truth.

Then he moves into his pissed mode once again.  As he says, this is not the first time he has threatened to stop everything, nor do I doubt it will be his last.

I know I have said this before, but this time I mean it.

I'm done with you. I am NOT going to waste my time updating the website. I may or may not record messages for the sabbath or the holy days. You have proven through YEARS of just being yourselves that you aren't worth the time of day, and bringing new truths before you is like hurling my pearls before swine.

I am leaving the Churches of God right now this very moment and I will NOT look back. Go play and bicker with YOURSELVES.

I am not going to inform you anymore of new uploads to the Bible Study Channel. I'm doing it every day, but since you aren't compensating me to let you know, I won't. Just find it out for yourselves.

There you have it folks.  Allen is ticked off because people are not sending him money. All of these stupid laodicean COGers out there don't care about his message enough to send him tithe money and offerings. 

What I am going to do is what Mr. Armstrong did. HE went to THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD, not the people of the church that existed in those days, because, if he had, he'd still be talking in that little school house in Eugene, Oregon, that's where he'd be!

I see the wisdom in that decision now. I only wish I saw this years ago with such clarity.

So, I am going to be concentrating on my successquest.info and other related sites. THOSE people will listen and have an open mind and respond, while YOU will still be arguing and bickering among yourselves 20 years from now.

It should be noted here that there is not one single person that responds to his postings on Yahoo.  He is essentially ignored, so I don't know where all of his bickering readers are complaining at.

I wish you well.

Here is what I copied before I made this decision. It's the last notice you'll receive on this list, because these lists are dead as far as I am concerned and so are the websites but I will do this so that someday there will be an archive of this material for those who ARE interested in the
future.

Good bye and have nice lives, although I know you won't.

John

We continue our fascinating study from the Book of Enoch. It is at this point that the Obamanation series starts. The two series are complimentary from now on, as I don't cover the same information in both, as they do sometimes cover the same ground.

Since Allen failed so bad as prophet of God's word he at least has something to fall back on.  He is supposedly the only licensed hypnotist in Costa Rica.  Maybe this coming Feast some of you can pop in and see him if your Feast site is in that part of the world.

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