The Real COG Prophet On 7 Questions Your Minister Cannot Answer

 

When it comes to the Churches of God and its prophets, they are a dime a dozen these days. Everyone wants to be one and everyone thinks they are the one true prophet sent by God. We have had them for over 80 years in our midst and even further back in the various COG movements we came from. Each and every one thinks their words are sure and firm yet here we are 80 some years on in the COG movement and none of them have ever been right, until this generation. We have Bob Thiel, Gerald Flurry, Dave Pack, Ron Weinland, and Alton Billingsley, just to name a few. These men all pale in comparison to the one true COG prophet sent to us in these end times, Tony Roach.

Here is a list of things he posted on Living Church of God's Facebook page recently:

7 QUESTIONS YOUR MINISTER CANNOT ANSWER

1. When is the day of the Lord?... Sept. 28, 2031

2. Where is the Kingdom of God?... On the sun...

3. What is the time, times and a half in Daniel?... From 1470 BC when Jesus introduced Himself as "I Am" till Sept 28, 2031 when the "Day of the Lord" begins... 3,500 years...

4. When is the Spring Harvest of Souls?... It past in 2020 on the Day of Pentecost when the world was shut down for the Coronavirus...

5. Who are the Two Witness'?... The House of Israel and The House of Judah...

6. When is the wedding between Jesus and the church?... It happened in 2020 after the Spring Harvest of Souls on the Day of Pentecost...

7. Who is the Shepard for God's hidden flock in this Laodicean era?... I AM...

... PROVE ALL THINGS!!!... 
Matthew 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Please for your sake DO NOT think of me... I am No One... I am just the dust from a dusty dirt road... If you do you will miss the message as Satan clouds your mind...
I am exactly what God calls me... And exactly as those that came before me...

1 Corinthians 1:26-29
For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, 

not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

So you can see by my picture why No One believes me... I am NO One... I don't try to be someone I'm not... I don't try to impress anyone... I don't color nor curl my hair it just happened... Beauty is vain... I have neither... Beauty nor vanity... And for those that don't know... Long hair is not a sin... Samson gave his hair credit for his powers not God... That was the sin... If you want to judge me... Go for it ... I have no time to worry what man thinks of me... I'm here to please God... I have a job to do... Even tho I continually try to quit it... God brings me back...

God has always chose people just like me... Poor, weak, base, No One... So you will fall backwards be snared and taken... Please be strong.... Prove ALL things... Open your eyes, your heart and your ears... And see the TRUTH... And Hold Fast... There is no room for jealousy... Jealousy burns within like coals of fire... (Song of Songs 8:6)... I love you all... Ye are my brothers and sisters... 

Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Psalms 91:2 I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: 

his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; 

but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

Ezekiel was written 600-500BC... Although it was meant for our days... The Laodicean era... "The time of the heathen"... The "Time of Jacob's trouble"... 

The "Hour of Temptation"... The "Tribulations"... 

Ezekiel 2:5 And they, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear, (for they are a rebellious house,) yet shall know that there hath been a prophet among them.

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. .
When God told me to seek not a prophet it is within... He also said.... 

I will return them all back to you...
Be strong... Be faithful... Be perfect....
With Love Always Tony....
PROVE ALL THING!!!!
PROVE ME!!!! 

Dave Pack's Pentecost Failure

 

Error And Error

 

Pentecost 2023 has fully come, and nobody was awakened by the Elijahn bedroom voice of David C. Pack mimicking a global rooster condemning Kim Kardashian’s underwear.

 

The Pastor General of The Restored Church of God proved his methodology is more “error and error," leaving the trial element for those who still attend his flat-growth operation.

 

Boy, another half a million dollars of free federal money would come in really handy right about now.

 

This morning, it is all fake smiles across the street as members slip their green envelopes into the passing basket, sobered by another piecemeal “miss” by their false teacher and false apostle. Hopefully, the RCG young people learned to suppress their eye rolls and sit up straight in their chairs to avoid being eaten by lions this week.

 

But in the end, what is most important here is that David C. Pack was RIGHT. Right about what?

 

If you blinked, you missed his word-block insurance asterisk posted in Member Services Friday night that neutered Parts 444 and 445. Come on, folks, there is always wiggle room.

 

Grandpa Dave cannot approach his own deadlines without waffling, excusing, and re-clarifying. Getting out in front of his own failure is a standard operating procedure for the Headquarters hirelings.

 

 

Prophecy Update – Friday, May 26, 2023

 

A final note came to be helpful. As you can imagine, with each passing day more is learned. I can scarcely tell you how much more we have learned in the 48 hours since the last part. In fact, there is powerful evidence the acceptable year actually ends on a Pentecost (so much more could be said here, but you actually know some of it). Pentecosts are never exactly one year apart, and God says the first period is a year. And realize that in no case is a year ever 390 days. I closed on Wednesday saying, “God either plans Pentecost or near it. But does the Bible permit near,”—then adding a few seconds later, “How long will I wait? Forever.” The case for a delay beyond Pentecost is there, but it cannot be long. I so wish we could know what God means in Hab. 2:3 regarding the moad referenced—“though it tarry, wait for it.” It is impossible for Pentecost itself to tarry. But waiting a period beyond it gives the verse some sense. Remember, we’re waiting for a “thief” event. One viable instance has us waiting exactly one more day, and another one two more days. Both cannot be right. To list more possible just near-term scenarios (there are plenty) when we don’t know which (if any) is right is a waste of time. If more should be said, I will. Otherwise, let’s wait it out!

 

In Christ’s service,

 

David C. Pack

 

 

Concluding the Friday caveat about "a waste of time" is an understatement for the state of The Restored Church of God. This bloated paragraph renders Parts 444 and 445 a waste of time. Believing David C. Pack is a waste of time. Trusting David C. Pack is a waste of time. Listening to David C. Pack is a waste of time.

 

2 Timothy 3:7

Ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

 

Part 445 – May 24, 2023

@ 1:15:23 I mean, if it’s not Pentecost, it’s gonna take a better person than I to ever be able to explain it. It’s just above my pay grade.

 

Prepare for more error upon error upon error upon error.

Marc Cebrian

See: Error and Error

Crackpot Prophet Says It's A Double Sabbath And If You Are Bored Out Of Your Mind, Then Do This...

 

It is that time of year again when Church of God members have to deal with two Sabbaths in a row. Regular weekly sabbath and Pentecost. The Great Bwana to Africa and 100 Caucasians knows how mind-numbingly BORING his sermons are, in spite of all the chair bouncing, hand flapping, and arm waving, that his followers are bored as hell. So he says to do this:

So, you have two Sabbaths in a row and perhaps you wonder what you and/or your family should do?

Well, in addition to study, prayer, and church services, there are other things you may wish to do.

Such as?

Completing lessons of the Study the Bible Course, watching animations, and/or various quizzes and Bible games at the COGwriter website.

Ghastly days! Who in hell would want to sit down and do Bwana Bob's heretical Bible Course? Or, worse yet, watch his pathetic sad animations - the greatest gospel tool ever invented so the one true end-time prophet can spread his gospel message.

Here is a better suggestion...take your family to the park. Go to the zoo. Go hike in nature. Go to a museum and learn some actual things worth learning.

Or, if you are one of his African followers could go out to a restaurant with the resident evangelist and sit there and watch him eat while he doesn't talk to you. Fun times!

Anyway, here is what the Great Bwana wants you to do (he needs the clicks):

A very popular one is the Who Wants to be a Biblical Millionaire? quiz, also developed by Michael Thiel.

Very popular with who??????? His African followers do not do the quiz. His 100 Caucasians aren't interested. 

It is an interesting game. It has over 1,000 different questions. Think of it as an entertaining way to assist your doctrinal memory.

Doctrinal memory?? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!! Do you mean 1,000 questions covering the crapola that Bwana Bob thinks you need to know?

You could always learn what to do on your first date. After watching this you may want to take a vow of chastity to remain celibate.

First Date: Worldly vs. Christian

Should a first date be between two experienced pickup artists interested in fornication? Or should it be between a man and a woman who would like to actually know each other better? Does the Bible give any guidelines that Christians who date should pay attention to? If so, what are some? This brief animation shows a worldly pickup date at a bar, and an inelegant, but appropriate request for a date in a more open environment. Dating should be fun and involve communication, and not regrets. So, check out our animation on worldly vs. Christian dating.

Or discover that Jesus Christ would ONLY join the improperly named "continuing" Church of "god":

Which Church would Jesus Choose?

If you are looking for a true Christian church, how should you choose? Should you choose based upon any building(s) used? Is the criteria in the Bible? What are some widespread ‘doctrines’ that many churches teach that were not part of the original faith? Do Christians go to heaven upon death? Were early Christians militaristic? What about tradition? This animation addresses those issues and more.

What a great time to be alive and have the opportunity to do such wonderful things in these perilous end times!

Praise be!

Dave Pack: The Trial and Error Church of Another god

 

Trial and Error

 

To further advance his growing Empire of Speculation, David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God introduced a solid-gold Accountability Shield to further protect him from all biblical responsibilities. Bible prophecy is a process of trial and error, folks. The Pastor General’s desperation knows no bounds.

 

“The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 444)” on May 20, 2023, was followed by Part 445 on May 24. Part 444 reset the table, but Part 445 tossed a bunch of 444 into the trash to reset the table again. Though, for real, this one last time.

 

Per Part 444 on May 20:

 

•  The Kingdom Is Not Coming on May 21.

•  "If Correct," The Kingdom Comes on May 23 But Must be Before May 25.

•  1-1-7-1K Kingdom Structure Iddn’t Gonna Change.

•  Sabbath and Pentecost Constitute “God’s Weekend.”

•  Simpler One Month Kingdom: 18-2-10-3.5

 

Per Part 445 on May 24:

 

•  No Kingdom on May 23 or 25.

•  1-1-7-1K Kingdom Structure Changes to 1-7-1K.

•  No One Month Kingdom, But Is Part of The First.

•  The Kingdom To Israel Is Inside The Kingdom of God.

•  The One Year First Kingdom of God Is 390 Days.

•  “God’s Weekend” Never Mind.

•  The Kingdom of God Arrives on Pentecost at Sunrise in Jerusalem

 

 

Tired of being quoted verses about false prophets and false teachers, David C. Pack found a verse he could mangle just enough to give him cover for seven-and-a-half years of Prophetic Groundhog Days.

Part 444 – May 20, 2023

@ 00:14 Thought I would explain something to you that might be very interesting and helpful… Prophecy (a third of the Bible) is different than (and really contrasted to) all other doctrines. It’s almost not a doctrine. It’s doctrine. It’s many, many doctrines in one. But, when you study prophecy, you study knowing in part, and it requires a certain trial and error because the amount of it is just so vast. There’s trial and error. You see a scenario. You play it out. It looks good. It has some strengths. Then, eventually, things don't work, and you break it down, and you start again. It's trial and error. You know in part and if God’s guiding, you know a little more and a little more.

 

He compares prophecy to doctrines like tithing, the Sabbath, and Holy Days. But prophecy is different. He perverts the meaning of 1 Corinthians 13:9, “For we know in part, and we prophesy in part,” and finds another Get Out Of Jail Free Card to play.

 

During Part 373, David C. Pack explained, “I’m telling, not foretelling.”

 

During Part 425, he redefined “inspired preaching” to mean “teaching what the Bible says.”

 

Now, during Part 444, teaching Bible prophecy “requires a certain trial and error.”

 

Each step defuses the discernment that he is a false prophet and a false teacher. Excuse piled upon excuse piled upon excuse. David C. Pack found another way to “explain away” his persistent failures while also absolving himself of all responsibility for those failures.

 

He is just a victim of the process, brethren, and not a perpetrator of biblical fraud handling the word of God deceitfully. So, it is okay to continue to pay him to set dates because, by design, one-third of the Bible was always meant to be approached this way.

 

Part 444 – May 20, 2023

@ 03:10 But prophecy is different. God nowhere says you know about the Sabbath in part. Or tithing in part. Or the Holy Days on unclean meat. There's no other place in the Bible regarding any other subject, any other doctrine where you know in part.

 

 

David C. Pack admits that Bible prophecy is basically a guessing game. Except, he seemed torn as to what prophecy is. “It’s almost not a doctrine. It’s doctrine. It’s many, many doctrines in one.”

 

It's not. It is. It's many. That is another sign of the divided house between his ears.

 

doctrine

a belief or set of beliefs held and taught by a Church, political party, or other group

 

Bible prophecy is a doctrine, despite how Dave wants to frame it. Setting a date for the return of Jesus Christ and having it fail still constitutes being a false prophet, despite how Dave wants to frame it.

 

The revelation that understanding Bible prophecy requires trial and error was such a huge relief for Dave he expanded on it four days later.

Part 445 – May 24, 2023

@ 00:29 …regarding prophecy, we know in part. Requiring trial and error. To some degree, you could say, "hit and miss." We have to piecemeal our way to develop the picture. And I contrasted this approach to other doctrines. I think I cited seven.

 

@ 01:00 Many found I heard this from many, actually, quite a few. I think, including ministers. Members and ministers. Many found this very helpful.

 

The people at Headquarters who found this new unbiblical concept helpful are the most pitiful in The Restored Church of God. Perhaps they got the same sense of relief Dave did because it gives a plausible excuse for why he cannot get anything right. It removes accountability for teaching fraud but also eliminates the responsibility of the members to obey the Bible and hold their human idol accountable.

 

The brethren are not being defrauded. They are enduring. That must have soothed the consciences of many still holding on despite knowing they continue to tithe to The Restored Church of Another god.

 

It is like when a cheating husband gains relief from guilt because he discovers that his wife has also been cheating. Something uncomfortable suddenly becomes a win/win situation.

 

 

After listing all the correct doctrines RCG still holds on to, including the truth about hair pieces and tattoos, Dave finds another way to transfer the blame onto others. It is always the fault of those who leave and never about what and how he taught.

Part 445 – May 24, 2023

@ 03:20 We have, we teach, and we know the Truth. All of it. I might ask, Why ever leave over prophetic trial and error when we’ve learned so much more than others who know so little?… Because it involved piecemeal, some hit-and-miss, and trial and error.

 

You can now add piecemeal to the process. The Bible must be filled with the concept of hit-and-miss. If you can find those verses, please email exrcgwebsite@gmail.com. My version of e-Sword seems to be lacking them.

 

@ 03:56 All those other doctrines are clear. They’re taught in a very clean and clear way… But not when you're talking about one-third of the Bible. So, as I’ve said all through the Series, people who wanna leave because we can’t get the third right when we’re moving way beyond everybody else on that and already have the rest of the truth, they just don’t wanna obey God. They just don’t wanna obey God.

 

The Restored Church of God

Two Out Of Three Ain’t Bad™

 

The idea that one-third of the Bible was not taught in a clean, clear way so that God’s people could discern a false teacher from a true one never enters the discussion.

 

May God have mercy on David Crowl Pack.

 

His blindness continually denies any and all responsibility for causing the little ones to stumble. He is NEVER the cause.

 

If that one sheep wandered off from the flock—good riddance. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. No millstones are engraved with Dave’s name because those who left RCG “just don’t wanna obey God.” Easy-peasy.

 

 

Now that "trial and error" has become an official doctrine of The Restored Church of God, the brethren can look forward to an unapologetic continuation of the Series after Pentecost fails to produce anything beyond stuffed green envelopes.

Part 445 – May 24, 2023

@ 45:10 Dawn in Jerusalem is the only time when the entire world dawn in Jerusalem when the entire world is inside Pentecost. Either just crept into it or just about to pass out. It’s “fully come” to the whole planet worldwide.

 

@ 47:28 So, what the disciples were asking is exactly what we’re asking. Only finally, trial and error, piecemeal, you know, here a little, there a little, hit and miss. We have pinned down, or we're pinning down when I'm done, I'm gonna give you about forty-eight things; we'll have given you that many that point to Pentecost that appear to make it impossible to move away from.

 

Pentecost—May 28, 2023

Sunrise in Jerusalem: 5:35 AM (May 27 at 10:35 PM ET)

Sunrise in Wadsworth: 5:59 AM ET

 

@ 1:15:21 What other day would you pick? I mean, if it’s not Pentecost, it’s gonna take a better person than I to ever be able to explain it. It’s just above my pay grade.

 

Better Future Dave has already phoned ahead to accept the challenge. Do not be surprised when more “clarifying” comes out of Headquarters this weekend.

 

@ 1:21:58 But, if it’s not Pentecost, then I don’t know what it is.

 

By the time I sip my morning coffee tomorrow, David C. Pack will have erred again before the entire church. Those who choose to put their green envelopes in the basket are willing to accept they now attend The Trial and Error Church of Another god.

 

You get what you pay for. Prepare to keep getting more of it.

 

 

A famous quote by W.C. Field applies to Parts 444 and 445.

 

“If at first don’t succeed, try, try again…”

 

It is the lesser-known second-half that perfectly applies to David C. Pack.

 

“Then quit. No use being a damn fool about it.”

 

David C. Pack is a damn fool too arrogant to know when to quit. The brethren of The Trial and Error Church of Another god are proving they agree with a damn fool and want to keep supporting one. Shame upon both your houses.

 

To cling to a "trial and error" philosophy is to accept perpetual defeat into the vanishing point. It also proves that ERROR is half of the equation. Which Spirit guides that thinking, the Spirit of Truth or the Spirit of Error?

 

You also cannot have “hit-and-miss” with David C. Pack because he is ALL miss and NEVER hit. Pentecost tomorrow will only be the most recent example.

 

Even the Prophets of Baal knew when to give up and let Elijah call upon God. They were instantly proven false when the fire burned the water along with the sacrifice. The brook Kishon drank much blood that day.

 

It took self-aggrandizing prophecy expert David Crowl Pack the vast experience of fifty years to reach his ultimate conclusion of the matter: Bible prophecy requires trial and error.

 

Moses, Gad, Nathan, Ahijah, Samuel, Elijah, Elisha, Shemaiah, Iddo, Oded, Huldah, Hosea, Habakkuk, Zechariah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Daniel, Nahum, Amos, Isaiah, Joel, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Zephaniah, Malachi, and Agabus would all disagree.

 

Talk about a great cloud of witnesses that David C. Pack is a biblical fraud, a false apostle, and a false prophet. Also, being a blaspheming liar and hypocrite does help his case for legitimacy.

 

Abraham understood that even with God, there comes a point where there are not enough righteous left in Sodom to keep it from burning.

 

How many righteous remain in The Restored Church of God?

 

Do not stick around to find out. Get out while you still can.

 

 

For those who have not yet done so, please read Jessica Brown’s Plea to the Parents of RCG and Adelle Ambrose’s Plea to the Young People of RCG.

Marc Cebrian

See: Trial and Error