Sunday, November 2, 2025

Pathetic, VIle Crackpot Prophet: Persecution Of So-Called Christians Is Not As Bad As What I am Suffering Or WIll Suffer In The Years To Come


One thing you can say about the Great Bwana Bob Thiel is that he almost always engages his mouth long before his brain decides to show up to the party. Picturing himself as God's duly appointed prophet for these perilous end times—and convinced that no one else on this earth is quite as flawless a Christian as he is, or even a real one—he just keeps flapping his callous, holier-than-thou gums, mocking the persecutions and killings of Christians around the world. Sure, those so-called Christians' deaths are a tad sad to hear about, but it's nothing compared to the epic tragedy of the Great Bwana and his loyal flock suffering from his imagined shadow ban by Google over his brilliantly researched books on aberrant theology. And don't even get me started—it's going to be peanuts next to the heroic showdown when he takes on the Beast power, Baron Karl von Gutenberg, right there in the streets of Jerusalem.

God's greatest gift to the world and the church got his sacred, holistic knickers in an Arroyo Grande twist today over President Trump threatening the Islamist filth currently slaughtering Christians in Nigeria and elsewhere. How dare he! After all, those aren't real Christians; their deaths are regrettable, but hardly as catastrophic as what he and his followers might endure as the only true Christians gracing this planet today. 

He used to dismiss any Christian outside his tiny cult as "so-called" Christians or "Christians in name only," and now his genius new trick is to downgrade real Christians around the world as "Greco-Roman." Because, you know, that's totally not a desperate way to make himself feel superior. And, as usual, every news story and world event must be twisted into a thrilling tale all about him.

He starts right off the bat with people who "claim:" they are Christians:


Is persecution for people claiming Christianity over?
Sadly, no.

He then quotes some facts from a news article:

More than 380m Christians suffer high levels of persecution and discrimination for their faith
1 in 7 Christians are persecuted worldwide

And then writes this gem:

That is horrible; that is so wrong. People should not be killed, imprisoned, or otherwise persecuted for their faith.

Then he turns the story of persecution of people who "claim" to be Christians into one all about himself:

That said, as far as governments and persecution go, the Continuing Church of God put together the following video on our Bible News Prophecy YouTube channel...(hyperlinks removed)

New Religious Persecution
Are we seeing new forms of religious persecution popping up? Did Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy sign a law on August 24, 2024 banning the Orthodox Church in Ukraine? Did Rwanda recently shut down over 5,100 churches, including house churches? Was this really about safety or perhaps also politics? Did Rwandan President Paul Kagame state that he is considering implementing a tax on church donations? Did the Nicaraguan government, under its President Daniel Noriega, change laws on August 22, 2024 that could allow it to impose taxes of up to 30 percent of a church’s annual income? Did the Nicaraguan government recently shut does 1,500 non-governmental organizations, including 678 religious associations? Is Burundi causing issues for the churches of God because of some of its rules? Did Jesus prophesy about persecution? Will some Christians be beheaded and others burned according to biblical, as well as Greco-Roman, prophecies? Is economic 666 persecution also prophesied? What should the faithful do? Steve Dupuie and Dr. Thiel address these matters.

Bwana Bob's putridness continues with this:

Yes, there is also persecution through suppression, shadow-banning, implied threats to careers, etc. for many who dare speak on behalf of biblical standards of morality. 
 
And, of course, it is not just those who claim to be Christians that are being persecuted. Various people around the world are being persecuted for their religious beliefs. 
 
In Western cultures, persecution is often subtle and is more directed to those who espouse biblical ideas. 
 
Big Tech and various governments have taken steps to “suppress the truth in unrighteousness” (Romans 1:18) as the Apostle Paul warned.

Cancel Culture and Christian Persecution (note: all of the stuff below is in ONE rambling sermon without a clear focus)

  • What did Jesus teach about persecutions? 
  • Should Christians expect name calling and being falsely taught against? 
  • Did the Apostle Paul warn about this as well as evil deceivers increasing in the end times? 
  • Were early Christians ever murderous persecutors? 
  • Did Emperor Constantine stick to his religious tolerance ‘Edict of Milan’ in 313? What about his edict against heretics in 331? 
  • What types of persecution did Emperor Theodosius implement? 
  • Has there been a history of attempting to cancel Christian speech and practices, which were sometimes followed by physical persecution? 
  • Have Greco-Roman Catholics been involved with persecutions against believers? 
  • What about Protestants like Martin Luther or John Calvin? 
  • What about Big Tech? 
  • What about actions from Facebook Google, YouTube, and Twitter? 
  • Is shadow banning consistent with cancel culture? 
  • Is more persecution coming? 
  • Do Greco-Roman prophecies about the ‘Great Monarch’ look forward to Christians being persecuted? 
  • Could the European Union’s Digital Services Act and European Public Prosecutor’s Office be factors in future persecution? 
  • Will faithful members of the holy covenant instruct many? 
  • Will indentifying the coming King of the North trigger persecution? 
  • Will there be more persecution of the Philadelphian Christians prior to the start of the Great Tribulation? 
  • What will happen to the Laodiceans? 
  • Which Christians will be protected from the coming hour of trial, which starts with the Great Tribulation? 
  • Will the persecuting Beast, False Prophet, and those with the mark of the beast be punished? 
  • Will God reward the faithful Christians who endure persecution? 
  • Dr. Thiel addresses these and more in this sermon video.

Then has this:

Sadly, today, most who profess Jesus fail to truly recognize important aspects of the truth. And many want to make further compromises away from the truth for the sake of an unbiblical unity.

And continues down the path, making this all about himself:

So, we see that this began under Emperor Constantine and continued with Imperial support including by Empress Theodora of the 10th and 11th century (she was born in the 10th and died in the 11th century). Emperors Constantine and Theodosius, as well as Empress Theodora, claimed to be Christians–but they were not. Those false professors of Christ persecuted true believers–and such will happen again! 
 
Now, the fact that literature was also prohibited starting with Emperor Constantine reminds me of shadow-banning by Big Tech as well as allegations of “hate speech” for holding to biblical standards of morality by governments in places like Europe, the USA, Canada, UK, Australia, and New Zealand. 
 
Sadly, in the 21st century, holding to many biblical positions is considered extremist and even dangerous by various government officials.

At least two major persecutions are prophesied to come. 
 
All the faithful will be subject to persecution and being betrayed by professing believers (Matthew 24:9-13, Mark 13:12-13; Luke 21:16-18; Daniel 11:32-35). 
 
The Book of Daniel shows a two-part persecution coming from a European leader (I added the a and b below for emphasis):

25 a He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand b For a time and times and half a time. (Daniel 7:25) 
 
First of all (a), he shall persecute certain of the saints, which is consistent with what Jesus said was coming: 
 
9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. (Matthew 24:9-14)

Much of the above will affect the Philadelphian Christians (cf. Revelation 12:13), but they will later be protected (Revelation 3:8-10) in the wilderness for a time, times, and half a time. Part of why they will be persecuted is for proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom and probably also for identifying the coming King of the North, who will not wish to be identified that way. This will likely result in internet and other restrictions on getting the truth of God out to the world (cf. Amos 8:11-12). 

Then he says all of the Armstrongite heretics in splinter groups will then be persecuted because they were too stupid to know when to go to Petra: 

Second of all (b), the remaining saints will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time. This is the portion of the COG, the non-Philadelphians, who are NOT protected in the wilderness as Revelation 12:17 shows this separation, where as Revelation 20 points to Christians being beheaded...

Then this:

While many in the Church of God have experienced economic and social persecution in their walk with Christ, future severe persecution, beginning first with the Philadelphia remnant of Christians, is expected. 
 
Murderous persecution is prophesied (cf. Daniel 11:33; Revelation 13:15). 
 
Persecution is a fact of history. It has happened before and we should be prepared for the fact that much more of it will happen again. And during the time of the final persecutions, the Bible records:

12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus (Revelation 14:12). 
 
Thus, though the Philadelphian Christians will be subject to intense persecution first, before this, even the Laodiceans and other Christians will receive some praise if they endure the persecutions that will then come during the time of “the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world” (Revelation 3:10). 
 
While many seem to not wish to pay attention to this subject, the reality is that persecution has existed throughout history against those with Church of God doctrines. Jesus predicted that as well as more persecution to come. Some may be shocked by certain doctrines that Christians have been persecuted for (and often persecuted by others who profess to be Christian). 
 
Those in the true Church of God have always been on the side being persecuted and have never been on the side of the persecutors. And this will be true again in the future.

As you can see, the Great Bwana Bob, reluctantly acknowledges that, yeah, sure, hundreds of millions of "so-called" or "Greco-Roman" Christians are getting persecuted, imprisoned, or straight-up killed worldwide, which is "horrible" and "so wrong." But let's not get carried away; the real tragedy here is Bob and his tiny flock facing the horrors of Google shadow-banning his profound theological masterpieces. He twists every global news bite into a spotlight on himself, plugging his YouTube videos about "new religious persecution" (starring Ukraine, Rwanda, Nicaragua, and Burundi as mere supporting acts), and warns of Big Tech's subtle tyranny against biblical morality.

And as usual, we saw him dive into a rambling sermon on historical persecutions from Constantine to Theodosius, blaming "false professors of Christ" (everyone not in his cult) for everything, while patting his own back for being on the "persecuted" side. 

Future prophecies? The Beast power and economic 666 woes are coming, but fear not—Bob's Philadelphian elite will flee to the wilderness (Petra, anyone?), while those dumb Armstrongite splinter groups get beheaded for not joining his exclusive club. Because nothing says "true Christian" like downplaying mass murders to hype your own imagined martyrdom. Patience of the saints, indeed—enduring Bob's ego must count for something!

 

 




Saturday, November 1, 2025

Dave Pack's incompetant god is unable to keep Dave's mouth shut. New date for JC to return

 

News Flash: 

Jesus Christ Will Return on December 5, 2025, Instead

The theological buffoonery continues at The Restored Church of God. David C. Pack’s head did not even touch his pillow after declaring that the Kingdom to Israel would arrive on December 19, 2025, before he seriously doubted his own teaching.

“Only an oracle from God or Gabriel or Christ could change my mind.” Well, not so much.

During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Parts 603 & 604)” on October 25, 2025, the Pastor General dissolved all of his most grandiose statements from the week prior by shifting the date of God’s plan kicking into action.

The Kingdom to Israel will now arrive on December 5, 2025.
Not on December 19 anymore.
It's Kislev 16, not 30. Stupid.

What was briefly "impossible, it's impossible, impossible, impossible that we're wrong,” became certain as a more sheepish and less “sure that we have it right” David C. Pack struggled to overly-explain his latest excusatory song-and-dance. Only a mature man can admit he was right about being wrong.


Even though I am just an unordained non-prophet/non-psychic, David C. Pack loves to shower me with validation and legitimacy after I wrote this last week:

In the coming weeks, Dave will get "suspicious" and "uncomfortable" about Kislev 30 and pivot to some other date for other reasons.

David C. Pack claims the Holy Spirit made him uncomfortable, and it deeply, deeply troubled him about Kislev 30. It is too bad his god is so incompetent that it cannot move Dave to keep his mouth shut and utter something truthful for once. In the meantime, members of The Restored Church of God endure more disappointment and embarrassment as the most gullible among them took this admonishment seriously:

“If anyone doubts Kislev 30 and December 19th, rouse yourself. Pull your focus together. I would say, you say, ‘I don't know if I believe this.’ Wake up, jump up, and stretch. Throw cold water on your face and take ownership of the facts. Shame on you if you do not take ownership of the facts… Don't just believe me, become convicted.”
David C. Pack – Part 602 – October 18, 2025

There are still foolish people attending The Restored Church of God who were more convicted than the wicked man who uttered the lies they ate with joy.

Shame on every enabler at Headquarters, including Bradford Schleifer, Edward Winkfield, Jaco Viljoen, Carl Houk, Ryan Denee, and the rest of those yellow-belly hirelings for allowing this theological madness to continue unimpeded.

David C. Pack is a blaspheming, hypocritical liar, false teacher, false apostle, and false prophet. Nothing will happen on December 5, 2025, because God has proven David C. Pack to be a biblical fraud.

Marc Cebrian

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Bill Watson Takes His Extreme Teachings And Breaks Off On His Own With A New And Improved COG

More schism, more rancor and bitterness - this is the legacy of the ACOGs.
 

And the splintering of COGdom continues on with another know-it-all who thinks his version of Armstrongism is better than everyone else. Another craptastic COG group.

Lonnie Hendrix reports:


Bill Watson of Medina, the Latest ACOG Schismatic!

This blogger has watched and commented on Bill Watson's journey into the fringe of the ACOG movement for years. Over those years, Bill has absorbed and embraced extreme right-wing politics in the United States and many of the conspiracy theories endemic to that group. Simultaneously, Bill has resisted any modifications/changes to the core Armstrongist theology of the old Worldwide Church of God. In other words, he has stubbornly refused to let go of teachings (like Anglo-Israelism, headline theology, ministerial authority, etc.) from which others have tried to distance themselves or repudiate altogether. 
 
We have also reported on Bill's efforts to quietly disentangle himself from the Church of God International - the very group which credentialed him as a minister. Bill quietly diverted tithes and offerings away from CGI headquarters in Tyler and began accumulating funds in Ohio in anticipation of forming his own independent ministry. During this period, he also began organizing his own independent feast site for the observance of the Feast of Tabernacles by his followers. He also quietly repaid Tyler the funds used to purchase the building where the Medina congregation meets. More recently, he also abandoned the internet platform provided for him by CGI and created his own website. Moreover, seeing the writing on the wall, Tyler has itself pulled back from Bill and quietly distanced themselves from some of his more extreme teachings. 
 
Now, as is the pattern amongst ALL of the Armstrong Churches of God, Bill has finally pulled the trigger and taken the last official step toward complete independence - He has formally formed his own ministry. Bill's church is now known as Church of God Independent Ministries. Likewise, Tyler has removed Medina, Ohio as one of its United States congregations (Columbus is still listed on their website). More schism, more rancor and bitterness - this is the legacy of the ACOGs. The death spiral continues, and it isn't pretty to watch!

Friday, October 31, 2025

The Kitchen Bros: New WCG Website To Take Your Hard Earned Money

 


Bravo to the illustrious Kitchen brothers, who've heroically churned out countless websites and Facebook pages over the years, all in the noble quest to "preserve" Herbert Armstrong's timeless wisdom and the oh-so-sacred teachings of the dearly departed Worldwide Church of God. Because nothing says "eternal truth" like a barrage of outdated memes on social media.

And now, in their latest stroke of genius, they've launched a shiny new site dedicated to hoovering up your hard-earned cash (as long as it's solemnly sworn not to touch anything as important as preaching the gospel). Their grand masterplan? After indoctrinating the impressionable youth with tales of the great Herbert Armstrong, they'll all pack their bags for a quick vacay in Jerusalem, then scamper off to Petra to link arms with visionaries like Bob Thiel and Ron Weinland. There, they'll nobly train the next generation of cosmic overlords on how to boss the universe around—with a rod of iron, naturally, because subtlety is for losers. And don't forget, the legendary Aaron Dean will swoop in to resurrect those "lost truths" of the WCG, because who needs progress when you can recycle the past?

So, dear brethren, fling open those wallets and surrender every last penny to this epic "final push"—a spectacle so groundbreaking it'll make Bob Thiel's own final push look like a pathetic whimper in comparison! Aaron Dean was seen shaking his head in approval!

It is clear, spiritually speaking for the Spiritual Temple, the gold and silver are the members of the Church!
The command is to bring them for the House of God in JERUSALEM. Gather them together in JERUSALEM. And since we do not need to perform sacrifices any more, Christ dying finally and nailing sacrifices to the cross, we gather to keep the Sabbaths, the Feasts of the Lord!
Gold and silver. For what reason? So that the ministry may be RESTORED, so the Temple may be ready and finished for marriage with Jesus Christ.
So I have created “The Supportive Services of the Worldwide Church of God” and I am developing a website for it. Ultimately we will gather in Jerusalem.
I’m going to personally help with funding this. I hope many of you want to help fund it.
I want to introduce the old World Tomorrow programs to this generation, because the gospel has already gone around the world as a witness to all nations. The Worldwide Church of God is a testament to that fact. And when we stand up, and gather together, we are standing up on behalf of Jesus Christ, and God the Father, not in shame, not holding our identity in contempt, but because we trust God and we look to Christ as our deliverer.
We haven’t gone away. We faded, while others did as they pleased. God tested our hearts. He is testing our hearts now.
What is more important than anything in this world? God’s Church serves as a mother. And many of us have our mother to thank for feeding us spiritually while others have left and vacated.
Jesus Christ did not give up on us.
The more I study God’s Word, Christ still rules this Church, in spite of the ministry vacating due to tremendous persecution.
Now is the time of restoration, of coming back and out away from Babylon. To do the Work of God.
Showing up is part of our part. Setting up, is part of our part, and eventually the preacher and ministry will be there. But we cannot forsake our parts!!!! Zerubbabel was no priest, yet he was of that family line. He was used to bring up the support structure, a candlestick.(Zechariah 4) The Temple, the Church(Rev. 1:20).
We can support. As Pillars. And accept what God says. We seek not our own will but the will of God. I hope that is true. For me it is.