Dave Pack Says: "We will again enjoy the same socials, activities, sporting events and tournaments, Spokesman and Graduate Clubs, Youth Camps, Sabbath services, pastors, meeting sites for the Feast of Tabernacles, college and Ministerial Conferences."

Davey wants you to be lamenting right now that all the brethren no longer gather together for socials, tournaments and Spokesman Club. The glory days of the 1950's and 1960's were a perfect time in Armstrongism. Everyone was unified and in the same spirit.  Yeah right, when jack-asses fly. 

First we must think for a moment about weddings and funerals taking place today. When brethren temporarily come together for these kinds of events, it reminds them of the divided state of God’s people. Many friends and family members attending in separate groups who have not spoken with each other sometimes for years are excited to see each other at these occasions. They often talk of wishing they were all back together—lamenting that this is impossible due to the multiple groups. They reminisce over the “good old days,” and the “way things used to be” in the WCG. These are common topics of conversation. Thousands deeply desire to be in one organization again, and are saddened that they are not. This situation is sad. And it has been the leaders who have made it impossible to be together.

Think of all that will happen when reunification occurs. Begin to make the following summary real in your mind’s eye: We will again enjoy the same socials, activities, sporting events and tournaments, Spokesman and Graduate Clubs, Youth Camps, Sabbath services, pastors, meeting sites for the Feast of Tabernacles, college and Ministerial Conferences.

This will NEVER happen.  That's a guaranteed fact that Dave is lying about.

Dave Pack Puts His 16 HQ Yes-Men/Ministers To Work Trying To Interpret His Gaseous Prophecies

Dave is boasting about putting his 16 HQ ministers to work trying to figure out what Dave is preaching.  That's 16 full time ministers for a congregation of less than 200 people.   Just making a rough estimate that his ministers make $60,000.00 (though we know for a fact that are receiving higher salaries) annually as a RCG minister, Dave is WASTING close to $1,000,000.00 by maintaining 16 full time ministers at his glorious HQ.  It's no wonder he is having such huge financial issues!

For over 14 years, The Restored Church of God has focused on leading those of like mind back to one group. We have striven to fulfill Christ’s description in Matthew 12:30—those who gather instead of scatter. We—I—did not see for a long time how God would return His people to His Church. I came to understand last August that He had an end-time “remnant” that He would bring back, but I did not at that time know how or when. I gave a series of seven sermons and Bible Studies on the remnant, starting with Romans 11:5, and why it applied to the end of the age, not the apostle Paul’s time. It was only later, beginning in early November, and focusing on Haggai and other verses in the Psalms, prophets, Ezra and Nehemiah and the writings of four different New Testament apostles, that I began to learn HOW God would fulfill His Plan—and WHEN. All 16 of our Headquarters ministers have spent a staggering amount of hours studying these verses, and there is complete agreement right down to the details. These announcements are explaining what God revealed, that was hidden in His Word, until His time to fulfill it had come.

Imagine that, a room full of yes men all getting together to CONFIRM that Dave is the most intelligent man to ever exist and that EVERYTHING he says directly comes from his god.  In the 2,000 some years of Christian history no man during this entire time had the inteligence or direction from God to understand these verses.  Only Dave can do that.

Dave Pack: God Is Going To Make A SPECIAL Announcement In 2 Weeks!

Davey wants you all to know that in 2 weeks God will be speaking through him with a mind boggling announcement.  Are you prepared?

Everyone will be reading these announcements, and soon everyone who hopes to retain God’s Spirit will have to ACT on their content. (Some thousands have already followed God’s Spirit back to His Church—His House.) Eventually, MANY thousands more will come!

Everyone wants to know WHEN this will happen—WHEN this prophecy will be fulfilled. God’s exact timing for action will be announced in two weeks!

We have seen the incredibly STUUUUUUPID Ron Weinlend be made out to be a fool and we now get to watch as Davey is made out to be a fool too.  Oh wait, that's already happened.

Dave Pack: Mockers Are Making Fun of Me!

Dave Pack, the leader of the most superfantabulous Church of God to ever exist in humanoid history is proving he is thin skinned.  After gloating about a supposed number  people that have checkout his weekend rants, he has to get a dig in at those of us that mock him.  Oh Boo Hoo!  Does the crybaby need his diaper changed?

You will notice as he starts off his weekly rant that he wants you to be impressed by numbers.  Numbers are important to Dave.  He assumes that with each high number we will be impressed.  those pussy boys in LCG and PCG cnat get these numbers so we are to stand in awe of Davey.

Over 20,000 people have read my mid-March article “God’s People Back Together—SOON!” (with dozens more every day). The great majority of these thousands are asleep and in disbelief of the prophecy. Some of the same thousands are reading every week, many no doubt out of curiosity but most of the others simply in disbelief (this includes mockers looking for “entertainment”). A few hundreds (possibly thousands) of readers appear to be in partial or even full agreement. This means most are not yet reading and believing what is being posted.

Dave is still bristling that the fact that the overwhelming majority of COG members and ex-members  continue to ignore him.  Even worse, they don't send him their money.

Davey though thinks that we will be in soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much awe in the next few weeks from his glorious words that we will stop mocking him and return home to the "truth once delivered" and join forces with the most superfantabulous COG ever to exist.

The prophecy that I have been explaining actually reveals that this would happen. But the content and magnitude of coming announcements will change both these positions in a BIG WAY in weeks to come. The prophecy also makes this plain. Everyone will be reading these announcements, and soon everyone who hopes to retain God’s Spirit will have to ACT on their content. (Some thousands have already followed God’s Spirit back to His Church—His House.) Eventually, MANY thousands more will come!

Is Dave Pack Being A Modern Day Charlemagne In Regards To Tithing?

Tithing Re-examined by Dwight Pryor

Thanks to a reader for sending this to me.

Here is an interesting short discussion on tithing and why it is NOT a requirement today for Christians.  This goes against all of Armstrongism, because that is the money making engine for the church.  Instead of people freely giving because they feel blessed, they are forced to tithe, the antithesis of everything in Scripture.

A few comments from the 17 minute piece.

• Tithing not about accumulating material goods.  Tell that to Dave Pack and Gerald Flurry!

• Not legally bound to tithe but give generously, joyously, periodically and proportionately.   Was for the community of Israel and is not relevant to us today.

• The new testament talks about giving generously, not tithing.

• Preachers who put their congregations under enormous guilt and preach a kind of legalism insisting that they give 10% because that church is the storehouse, the right to collect it and use it as they see fit.  This describes the broad majority of Armstrongite churches today.

• Those that espouse tithing base it on the Hebrew scriptures and NEVER tell you the whole story.  A Jew in the bible is to give between 20-25% of their income.

• Orthodox Jews do not tithe today because the Temple does not exist. However, as an ethnic group, Jews give more proportionately than any other group in America.

• Tithing was not done by the New Testament church,

• Middle ages, 6th century,  Tithing imposed by the church under direction of Charlemagne when the church joined forces with the state.  It was especially forced upon the Jews.  Its was imposed to build the great edifices today.  They were built by imposed state taxes called tithing.  This sounds exactly like Dave Pack.  He has to build his great edifices in Wadsworth to make a name for himself.  In order to do that he imposes tithing and demanded offerings. He can't accomplish that in his writings or by his character, so has to intimidate and impose his demands in order to build his large edifices.

Philadelphia Church of God (Flurry Cult) Thinks They Know What It Means To Be A Woman

Gerald Flurry's son, Stephen, an Ambassador drop-out has written an article letting you know what he thinks it means to be a woman.

Of course we should all know by now that Armstrongism has the only correct view on what women are to be: pregnant and subservient to the man who is the ruler of the household and futur King of a world.  Women must know how to cook and clean and bear appropriate sons.

Stevie writes:

What are the differences between men and women? What makes a man a real man? Or a woman a real woman? What are “masculine” and “feminine” characteristics?

These questions are very basic and fundamental to each of our lives. Yet many are completely ignorant—confused! And they have no idea that they don’t know. Some actually say the only differences are differences people have made up. In fact, many colleges and now high schools are teaching that most gender characteristics are a matter of choice! That is absolutely false!

Of course, Armstrongism's god knows all"

In families and in society, God expects men to fulfill a certain role—and women to fill an entirely different role. Knowing what those roles are and how to fulfill them with confidence is absolutely essential to anyone’s true education. It will mean the difference between happiness and frustration—in your friendships, in your career, in your home.

Women, you must be subject to the domination of your husband.

Now turn to Ephesians 5 and see how this one-flesh union works. “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it” (verses 22-25). God’s purpose, we see here, was for men and women to serve each other. His purpose was for them to work together as a team, with the husband as team leader and the wife as personal assistant (i.e. personal slave.)

There is only one thing you need to be doing in life.  It's not about working, being involved in charities, or spending lots of time with friends and neighbors.  In fact, if they are outside the church you should not be associating too much with them.  Their paganism will rub off on you.

That ought to be your aim in life—to find a strong, loving man, who fears God and follows Christ’s example—and then to determine to support that man for the rest of your life. With that in mind, let’s consider four feminine characteristics you ought to be developing now, in preparation for your future.

Stevie says you need to be educated on how to be a woman.

• Education

• In Titus 2:5, the Apostle Paul admonished young women to be homemakers and to love their children. You cannot fulfill these responsibilities later in life without much education and training now!

• To become a Proverbs 31 woman, you need to honor your parents, travel whenever possible, study hard at school, read a lot in your spare time, become hospitable—a real joy to be around—and then learn to really think about and meditate on all that you see and learn.

• Heallth

• Notice what else about the virtuous woman: “She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms” (verse 17). She’s not trying to be a man—or do manly things. But this woman does not shy away from hard labor. Strength and honor are her clothing, it says in verse 25. She’s a picture of health.

•  She’s not trying to be a man—or do manly things. But this woman does not shy away from hard labor. Strength and honor are her clothing, it says in verse 25. She’s a picture of health.

• Did you know that the foundation of physical beauty is actually good health? When is the last time you have seen a really attractive sick person? Without good health, you will lose vibrancy and radiance. You will lose your appeal.  (Appearances in Armstrongism is always a 1st priority.)

•  Work

• The Proverbs 31 woman works! Verse 15 says she rises early (no doubt because she goes to bed early) because there is so much work to be done. She avoids “idleness,” it says in verse 27. That means she keeps busy—not with trivial, unimportant things—but by making quality goods and caring for her children. Read verses 12-16. She can make almost anything with her hands. She travels great distances to shop—not for trendy clothes, cds or junk food—but for goods her family needs. She even buys property so she can produce healthier food—and at a lower cost. This is a hard-working, industrious mom we are talking about!

• Read verses 18-22 and you will notice something in stark contrast to the modern woman of today. The virtuous woman is more concerned about saving money than she is about making money.  (Shopping at Salvation Army or Goodwill is a necessity,, unless you are a ministers wife and then its off to Bloomingdales or Nordstroms.)

•  Character:

• Like Solomon and the Apostle Paul, Peter also offers much instruction on the example young women ought to emulate. In 1 Peter 3:1, he admonishes wives to be in subjection to their husbands—to let their husbands rule the house like Christ rules the Church. He then goes on to describe conduct of a virtuous woman: “Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price” (verses 3-4). Here Peter describes a woman who is more concerned about adorning her character than she is her outward appearance. That doesn’t mean she looks sloppy. It just means her outward beauty is a reflection of what’s on the inside.      

True femininity is an attitude. It’s learning the art of service and sacrifice, without expecting anything in return. It’s having a gentle and peaceable spirit. It’s about seeing your role as a female the way God sees it. It’s about placing top priority on your husband’s success and your children’s happiness.

What a career that is. As Alexis de Tocqueville wrote in Democracy in America, nowhere does a woman enjoy a higher station in life than that of helpmeet and mother.

So there you have it.  All of you sinful, brawling women out here in COGland you need to repent and return to the truth in the PCG so that you can become a REAL woman.

1,000,000!!!!!!!!

Who would have thought when I started this little blog that it would be having the impact it does today!

Soon after I started this the UCG/COGWA debacle hit and viewership started climbing rapidly.  This site soon became the "go to" site for the latest in the absolute craziness in the Church of God.  We have taken their own words and posted them for all the world to see.

We had a direct influence in LCG's smack down of Bob Thiel when they had to publicly acknowledge that Bob was NOT the official LCG spokesperson as he assumed he was.  Through witnessing Bob's mental meltdown, the COG  has got to see a regular member appoint himself as a leader without any credentials or ordination.  The icing on that cake let us see some of the most absurd and poorly produced videos a COG leader has ever produced.

We have have experienced the venom from Wade Cox and legal threats.  We know we are read by Dave Pack and and his lap poodles.  We know LCG, UCG, PCG, GCI, COGWA and others regularly check us out.

25-30 years ago no one would have ever thought that the Internet would be as powerful as it is.  The Internet was a thing used by schools and universities for scientific research.  It was only a couple of years after HWA's death that the Internet took off and the COG has never been the same since.

It rapidly contributed to the downfall of the WCG as various splinter groups networked through email and private groups plotting their departure from the Mother church.  The power and control of the Church leaders suddenly went impotent.  People did what their conscience told them to do.  They left in the tens of thousands.

All of the splinter groups thought the Internet was God's new gift to them and would be their friend as it helped gather their faithful together in ways never imagined.  But then, all hell broke loose.  The Internet started being a tool to expose abuse of Church of God leaders. The people could no longer be silenced. 

The ground breaking work that the Ambassador Report accomplished decades ago took on a new light and route.  While the AR was originally mostly Pasadena based, the Internet went world wide. Around this time The Painful Truth appeared and  Gavin Rumney's blog Ambassador Watch suddenly took off.  The AW caused such a stir that various COG HQ's started calling in people to find out who was spilling the beans.  In essence, the Ambassador Report and Ambassador Watch with the help of the Internet, started the decline of the Churches of God that it has never recovered from to this day.

From an organization of close to 140,000 members, with millions of co-workers, three college campuses, enormous print runs, and a rich heritage, the Church has declined to 700 some splinter groups all fighting to see who is top dog.

We are getting to watch first hand the implosion of  the Dave Pack and Gerald Flurry groups.  We have witnessed the minuscule rise of two self appointed false prophets, Bob Thiel and James Malm.  We have witnesses the mental breakdown of a COG member who went on a shooting spree killing Living Church of God members all because of a sermon by Rod Meredith.  We have seen Church Elders lie under oath in stalking trials.  We have read about the suicides and deaths caused by church teachings.  We have seen Gerald Flurry get arrested for public drunkenness and then try to bribe a Peace Officer. We have witnessed families destroyed by Gerald Flurry's hate-filled disfellowshipment polices.  We watched as Rod Meredith broke away from WCG to form  the Global Church of God, then to watch him trash it by taking their money and leaving them in debt as he started Living Church of God.  The list is endless.

You can rest assured, that we will be here for a long time to come chronicling the fall of the Church of God into hundreds and hundreds more splinter groups.  If they try to shut us down there are others ready to step in and start another site.

Please patronize our fellow compatriots on this journey to freedom!

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The Painful Truth
Ambassador Watch
False Prophet Ron Weinland
Living Armstrongism
Silenced
All About Armstrongism
Armstrong Delusion
Exit and Support
The Plain truth About Malachi's Message and That Prophet
Non-Believer Former Members of the Worldwide Church of God
The Age of Reason - 21st Century
Armstrongism Plagiarism Research
The Supreme Cult
Armstrongism - The Ultimate Guide
The Gun Lap
Life After The WCG: A Spiritual Pilgrimage of an Independent Believer
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Otagosh
Towards The Faith Once Delivered
Matches In The Gas Tank     Link fixed
Field Guide To Wild World of Religion
Old Covenant Compared To The New Covenant
The Practicing Heretic
Investigation of Armstrongism