Sunday, December 7, 2014

God's Third Most Important Prophet Selling Her Condo




Who would have though that one of God's most important prophets would need to sell her condo before the end times happen?  Audra Weinland/Van Horne has her condo up for sale.

Mike, over at Don't Drink the Flavor Aid Served By False Prophets has this up:


Audra_entranceBy August of 2013, Chris and Audra were divorced.  Audra quickly recovered from the breakup, reportedly dating even before the ink was placed on the divorce decree and by February of this year was married to Edwin Van Horne.  Since Edwin lives in the Netherlands and reportedly has stable employment, the Van Horne’s live there and Audra comes to the States occasionally to show the flag and be ordained to higher rank in the visiting room at a Federal Correctional Institution.

So what to do about the condo?  Around a month ago, it went on the market.  Below is a clip of the realtor information.  Not listed among the selling points is that it is owned by the 3rd ranking prophet of God.  It does mention a short sale.  If what Audra paid matches the $140,000 tax valuation, she’s going to have to come up with some money to be able to sell it at the asking price of $125,000.  Too bad Audra’s prophecy skills don’t cover the decline in the real estate market.

Click here for more specifics about the Third Prophet's condo.


UCG: God's Most Favored Church of God Averages No More Than 20-30 Members In Attendance Each Week



God's most favorite Church of God ever has admitted it's not as favored as they would like it to be.  They continue to give the impression each week that they are the most unified and most awesome Church of God ever to exist, yet underneath that dirty facade is a crumbling superstructure that's aging and falling apart.

Roy Holladay from the United Church of God reports in the Nov 4th member news that the church is struggling to find members to ordain as leaders in its church.  

We in the home office administration would like to share with you some of our manpower plans for serving our nearly 200 congregations and Bible study groups in the United States. Several of our full-time pastors will be retiring in the next several years after many decades of faithful service. However, the work of leading and shepherding those congregations must continue and we are asking God to show whom He may be calling to serve in the pastoral ministry of His Church. It’s a very important role. One of UCG’s goals from inception has been to give each congregation a live speaker and not become merely a video or Internet church of God.
As you may know, many of our congregations are quite small, often with no more than 20 or 30 in attendance each Sabbath. Our current model has been to give our full-time pastors two, three or four of these smaller churches that may add up to a total attendance of 80-100. But this approach has significant drawbacks. The pastor may not be able to visit any single congregation more than once or twice a month. His travel incurs a great amount of mileage costs and takes a physical toll on the elder and his wife. We believe there are other ways to consistently and effectively serve our brethren in these small, widely scattered congregations.

What we have been doing in some areas, where there is a smaller congregation, is to find a qualified man who is already gainfully employed (or retired), who could be appointed as that congregation’s pastor at a part-time salary or volunteer basis. Before assuming the pastor’s position, he will need to be mentored and have online instruction in pastoral care to equip him with the tools and knowledge for this service. As you know, there is a lot more to pastoring than just speaking or visiting brethren. He would also have access to a mentoring pastor, who would be familiar with his area and would be available to advise and make occasional visits.

A part-time pastor serving only one congregation has the following advantages:

• The pastor and his wife will have only one congregation to serve each Sabbath. They will have more quality time with the brethren, knowing that they do not have to leave quickly after services and drive many miles to another church service.
• The pastor and his wife will be in his congregation the vast majority of Sabbaths, which is not possible for full-time pastors serving three or four churches.
• There will be lower mileage reimbursement costs for distances traveled, which will enable us to be wiser stewards of the money that God provides to care for our members.
• The pastor and wife can develop closer relationships with the brethren because they live in the same geographical area.
• The pastor would not necessarily need to forsake his chosen career.

Dave Pack Isolates Himself On His Compound

See Dave's slide show of his itty-bitty campus here.


Its now going on well over two years since Dave Pack uttered his absurd prophecy that three Church of God leaders would be struck down by his god and all of their members would come running in ecstasy to Dave's "church."  Two years ago when it failed the first time around Dave went silent.  When it failed to happen AGAIN in 2014 at the Feast of Tabernacles Dave circled the wagons with The Sixteen and came up with a way of keeping the riff-raff out of his cult compound. 

Now Dave has resorted to installing gates on his compound's driveway.  He has to keep his dwindling flock isolated from the pagan filthy sinners of the world and ex-members.  Its amazing how exclusionary Armstrongite cult leaders are yet the man they claim to follow was never exclusionary.  He dined with sinners, prostitutes, and the undesirables of the world.  God forbid if any citizens of Wadsworth drive on to the property or particularly ex-church members.

I imagine the citizens of Wadsworth are pleased with the gates.  It keeps the Pharisees and hypocrites locked up in their fish bowl so the public can can stand in the big box store across the street and make fun of the Packites.

Saturday, December 6, 2014

Its That Time of Year! Christmas Volleyball With UCG, COGWA and LCG




Lets Play Volleyball

Nothing wrong with playing volleyball, but playing volleyball at Christmas time is an event with hidden and ulterior motives, invented by certain "heads" of Worldwide Church of God splinter groups and with a hidden agenda.

Cult leaders of WCG splinter groups invented "family" time at Christmas time, for no other reason than to keep their members away from being attracted to the celebration of Christmas with family.

The CULT Worldwide Church of God splinter groups are notorious for deception, and the naive and gullible who bow to these groups, are not thinking human beings, they are all seduced by man-made religious ideas.

Indeed playing volleyball is a fun engagement, but no one but the most simple minded of human beings are blinded by this "family" time event, designed to keep members away from Christmas.   


The primary reason is because those who rule these people want to keep $CASH flowing into
their pocket books and not spent on gifts at Christmas time for children, so they make the claim that
Christmas is pagan and anti-God.  Nonsense!

So, volleyball player, have you gone to the homes of the leaders of these Worldwide Church of God splinter groups and seen how they live in splendor and luxury at your expense? Probably not!  Supposedly they speak for God and all the while they live in mansions, while they convince the naive that their "tithes" are being used to "preach the Gospel to the world."

Volleyball at Christmas is one of the most outrageous frauds ever invented by religious frauds, who pretend that Christmas is "evil." Christmas is not evil, it is simply a harmless custom, much like
camping, hiking, mountain climbing, surfing, swimming or home schooling.   What is really EVIL, is destroying families by playing volleyball at Christmas time, when families are RIPPED APART by Worldwide Church of God religious crap.  Think hard my friend, because you and your children are being USED and ABUSED by religious freaks who invented this bull.


Van Robison





Is There a Demon Under your Christmas Tree?



Merry Christmas Worldwide Church of God Splinter Groups

Be careful WCG splinter groups, because you might be attacked by demons from under a Christmas tree, if you happen to be near.    Of course "family time" playing volleyball at Christmas time was designed to draw members of splinter groups away from the "danger" of being contaminated by Christmas and those who participate in this harmless custom.

In my whole lifetime, I have yet to see a "demon" come out of a Christmas tree and jump on a human being. I have yet to see God send down a lightening bolt out of heaven and zap people who celebrate Christmas.   I have never seen children terrorized by God for opening Christmas presents.

I have however seen WCG splinter groups, as a result of their parent church, send lightening bolts of FEAR into their members for even thinking that Christmas is anything but Satanic.   When was the last time God appeared to any WCG splinter group member and told them they are going to forfeit eternal life if they celebrate Christmas? Never of course, but the leaders will quote one verse from the Old Testament and cause their members to believe that totem poles in ancient religious beliefs are trees and that they are devil worshipers if they put up a harmless Christmas tree, which is nothing more than a custom that has no consequence with God.

Is God the Creator so lacking in confidence, so lacking in self esteem and so insecure that He is "jealous" of a tree, with lights on it and decorated for human enjoyment?   If so, then why is God not jealous of preachers who stand in pulpits and pretend that they speak for God?   Church goers may not wrap pastors and preachers in lights and bow down to them, but they do worship them in a sense and think they are God's reps on earth.  Is there any difference in thinking that your WCG splinter group head speaks for God and the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church?


None whatsoever.

Merry Christmas,

Van Robison

Wednesday, December 3, 2014

Crack's in the Defense of Herbert Armstrong and Ellen G White's Prophet Status



Below is an article that appeared on an ex-SDA Facebook page.  It is about Ellen G White and the belief that she was a prophet.  If you substitute her name with Herbert Armstrong's you get the exact same scenario on how HWA claimed to not be a prophet yet deep down thought he was.

"A Crack in the Defense of EGW" (and HWA)

One of the many defenses that the SDA (COG) use for EGW (HWA) is that she (he) "never claimed to be a prophetess (prophet)". But what is a prophet? What are the marks of a prophet? First let's look at what EGW (HWA); the SDA Church (COG) said.

"One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and was manifested in the ministry of Ellen G. White (HWA). As the Lord's messenger, her (his) writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction. They also make clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested."—Fundamental Beliefs, 17

Ellen White (HWA) never assumed the title of prophetess, but she (he) did not object when others called her (him) by that title. (What follows is a quote from EGW, though HWA said the exact same thing) She explained, "Early in my youth I was asked several times, Are you a prophet? I have ever responded, I am the Lord's messenger. I know that many have called me a prophet, but I have made no claim to this title. . . . Why have I not claimed to be a prophet?—Because in these days many who boldly claim that they are prophets are a reproach to the cause of Christ; and because my work includes much more than the word 'prophet' signifies. . . . To claim to be a prophetess is something that I have never done. If others call me by that name, I have no controversy with them. But my work has covered so many lines that I can not call myself other than a messenger." - White, "A Messenger," Review and Herald, July 26, 1906, p. 8. The title "the Lord's messenger" was given by inspiration (ibid.).

And just what did her  'work' entail?

EGW - "Little heed is given to the Bible," she said, therefore "the Lord has given a lesser light to lead men and women to the greater light." - White, "An Open Letter," Review and Herald, Jan. 20, 1903, p. 15 in White, Colporteur Ministry (Mountain View, CA: Pacific Press, 1953), p. 125.

EGW - "'I took the precious Bible and surrounded it with the several Testimonies for the Church, given for the people of God. . . . .You are not familiar with the Scriptures. If you had made God's word your study, with a desire to reach the Bible standard and attain to Christian perfection, you would not have needed the Testimonies. It is because you have neglected to acquaint yourselves with God's inspired Book that He has sought to reach you by simple, direct testimonies, calling your attention to the words of inspiration which you had neglected to obey, and urging you to fashion your lives in accordance with its pure and elevated teachings.'" - White, Testimonies, vol. 5, pp. 664, 665.


Prophet (Merriam-Webster's Dictionary) - a member of some religions (such as Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) who delivers messages that are believed to have come from God
1 : one who utters divinely inspired revelations: as
a) often capitalized : the writer of one of the prophetic books of the Bible
b) capitalized : one regarded by a group of followers as the final authoritative revealer of God's will (Muhammad, the Prophet of Allah)
2 : one gifted with more than ordinary spiritual and moral insight; especially  an inspired poet
3 : one who foretells future events : predictor
4 : an effective or leading spokesman for a cause, doctrine, or group
5 Christian Science
a : a spiritual seer
b : disappearance of material sense before the conscious facts of spiritual Truth
Prophet (Smith's Bible Dictionary)- The ordinary Hebrew word for prophet is nabi, derived from a verb signifying "to bubble forth" like a fountain; hence the word means one who announces or pours forth the declarations of God. The English word comes from the Greek prophetes (profetes), which signifies in classical Greek one who speaks for another, especially one who speaks for a god, and so interprets his will to man; hence its essential meaning is "an interpreter." The use of the word in its modern sense as "one who predicts" is post-classical. The larger sense of interpretation has not, however, been lost. In fact the English word ways been used in a closer sense. The different meanings or shades of meanings in which the abstract noun is employed in Scripture have been drawn out by Locke as follows: "Prophecy comprehends three things: prediction; singing by the dictate of the Spirit; and understanding and explaining the mysterious, hidden sense of Scripture by an immediate illumination and motion of the Spirit."

So, we can see by definition, a 'prophet' is a messenger who gives or speaks the message from God. EGW (HWA) did claim to be "the Lord's messenger", so in fact she (he) did claim to be a prophet, by deed, even if not by title. And as such she (he) must be pass the Biblical test of a prophet, and it is in this area that she (he) fails. By God's own word, she (he) is therefor NOT A PROPHET(messenger) SENT BY HIM!!!

Fred Dattalo Opens His Home So Seniors Can Experience What Being A Privileged PCG Minister Is Like


Fred Dattalo has been struggling to recover his damaged image after contributing to the suicide of Janet De Generro.  Dattalo, Culpepper and Flurry all contributed to this woman's mental breakdown because of PCG's abominable and abusive "no contact" polices and then covered up that she had committed suicide.

See: How Fred Dattalo, Cal Culpepper and Gerald Flurry Caused The Suicide of Janet De Gennaro

Fred has a long history in the Church of God in trying to be seen as a relevant person in the hierarchy.  He was employed in Pasadena for many years in Accounting and then jumped ship to be with Rod Meredith when the Global Church of God was started.  Then when Global imploded and Meredith took all of its money, Dattalo jumped ship to Living Church of God.  Then when Meredith did not pander to Dattalo's magnificence he jumped ship to Gerald Flurry's personalty cult.  There Dattalo quickly rose up the ranks.  By this time Dattalo knew what to say and what not to say in order to advance.

In his new found position of power in the Philadelphia Church of God, Dattalo has had a heavy hand in making the lives of PCG members as miserable as possible.

See:    Fred Dattolo Goes Up High in PCG
See:    Disfellowshipping

Now Dattlo is in charge of all the financial records of the Canadian PCG members.  He closely monitors who is giving and how much.

Now PCG is trotting Dattalo out as a warm and welcoming man who opened his backyard for the senior PCG members in his area.  From the picture taken in  Dattalo's backyard it is very apparent that he does NOT live in a small house considering the size of his backyard.  Being high up in the PCG certainly has its rewards!

See:  Seventeen Seniors Share Food and Games