Saturday, August 18, 2018

Herbert Armstrong : Most of the world is too dumb to understand my message

(Bulletin, June 1975)



The Gospel of Jesus Christ was never worthy for the common person. 
At least, according to Herbert Armstrong. 


Those who are illiterate, cannot read or write, whose minds are like "dumb animals" were not worthy to comprehend Herbert's Message. Herbert wanted absolutely nothing to do with such stupid people, I guess. 

They have NO middle-class people. I guess you have to be middle-class to enjoy a meeting with God's One and Only Apostle. 

The educated are at the top. The "Tragically poor and ignorant" are at the bottom. These are Herbert's words, not mine. 

So Herbert only wanted to talk to the "important people". Not the ones who are on the same level as "millions of cows, horses and chickens". Whatever happened to "Feed my sheep"? Oh, wait. To Herbert, they were "DUMB sheep". 

Comparing the people of India, the South-east Asian Nations, and those in Africa and South America to cows, horses and chickens, calling them ignorant, illiterate, and with minds not much above dumb animals - well, what else could you expect from Herbert Armstrong. No wonder he wanted them segregated. Because they're different from those in the United States. Of course, they are. 

You wanted nothing to do with them, Herbert Armstrong. To you. their minds were undeveloped. 

You would much rather preach a gospel that wasn't a gospel to those at dinners, and luncheons, and Rotary Clubs, and in Lions Clubs then ever be around those who you thought had minds not much greater than dumb animals - like preaching to cows and horses and chickens. 

The crap that cows, horses and chickens lived in was so much better than the disgusting crap that I read here. And if Herbert were any sort of a Christian, he would have regarded those from India, Asia, Africa and South America as God's Children too - not the dumb ignorant poor people he wanted absolutely nothing to do with. 

But, after the conversations we've had the past few days, I think I understand. 

Yes, I know Herbert's dead, readers. But allow me the opportunity of expression here at Banned. 

submitted by SHT



A-theist Spirituality


Article in Salon
"Recently an “educational” pamphlet designed for Christian children made its way around Facebook. It warned God’s little lambs to avoid sour unhappy people called “atheists.” A private school curriculum called Accelerated Christian Education includes cartoons in which the atheist characters are rude, mean and drunk; and bad things happen to them.

Stereotypes like these get echoed sometimes even in Christian books and lectures that are targeted at adults. I once attended a successful megachurch on the  Sunday before Easter. The pastor wanted his audience to be clear that the resurrection of Jesus wasn’t merely some spiritual metaphor. “If the resurrection didn’t literally happen,” he shouted, “there is no reason for us to be here! If the resurrection didn’t literally happen—there are parties to be had! There are women to be had! There are guns to shoot! There are people to shoot!”

You caught the subtext?  Atheists (and even liberal Christians) have no basis for morality. Nothing—and I mean nothing!—stands between a godless person and debauchery or lechery or even violence.

Population demographics suggest otherwise, of course. Atheism is far more common among elite scientists and some of the most peaceful and equitable societies on earth are also  the least religious. But believers persist in fearing that godless people are amoral, that unfettered by religion the world would descend into the anarchy and bloodbath depicted in the  Left Behind movies.

In reality, when asked about their moral values or what motivates them in life, atheists use words that sound downright spiritual, very much like the words religious people use in fact, with a few noteworthy differences. To create his book,  A better LifePhotographer Chris Johnson asked 100 atheists about what gives their lives joy and meaning. To some Christians the question is equivalent to asking an elephant where he gets his chocolate ice cream. The answers might surprise them even more. Themes include love and connection, compassion and service, legacy (leaving the world a little better), creativity and discovery, gratitude, transcendence, and wonder—all heightened by a sense that this one life is fleetingly transient and precious.


Here are 20 short quotes from Johnson’s assemblage, each of which is crushingly at odds with the standard stereotype of the angry, selfish godless scrooge.

·         "Knowing there is a world that will outlive you, there are people whose well-being depends on how you live your life, affects the way you live your life, whether or not you directly experience those effects. You want to be the kind of person who has the larger view, who takes other people’s interests into account, who’s dedicated to the principles that you can justify, like justice, knowledge, truth, beauty and morality."  – Steven Pinker, cognitive scientist

·         "In the theater you create a moment, but in that moment, there is a touch, a twinkle of eternity. And not just eternity, but community. . . . That connection is a sense of life for me."  – Teller, illusionist


·        "We are all given a gift of existence and of being sentient beings, and I think true happiness lies in love and compassion." – Adam Pascal, musician and actor

·         "Being engaged in some way for the good of the community, whatever that community, is a factor in a meaningful life. We long to belong, and belonging and caring anchors our sense of place in the universe."  – Patricia S. Churchland, neurophilosopher

·         "For me the meaning of life, or the meaning  in life, is helping people and loving people . . . The real joy for me is when someone comes up to me and they want to just sit down and share their struggle."  –Teresa MacBain, former minister

·         "Joy is human connection; the compassion put into every moment of humanitarian work; joy is using your time to bring peace, relief, or optimism to others. Joy gives without the expectation—or wish—of reciprocity or gratitude. . . . Joy immediately loves the individual in need and precedes any calculation of how much the giver can handle or whom the giver can help."  – Erik Campano, emergency medicine

·         "Raising curious, compassionate, strong, and loving children—teaching them to love others and helping them to see the beauty of humanity—that is the most meaningful and joyful responsibility we have."  – Joel Legawiec, pediatric nurse

·         "Anytime I hear someone say that only humans have a thoughtful mind, a loving heart, or a compassionate soul, I have to think that person has never owned a dog or known an elephant."  – Aron Ra, Texas state director of American Atheists


·         "I find my joy in justice and equality: in all creatures having opportunities for enjoyment and being treated with fairness, as we all wish and deserve to be treated. . . . While I enjoy the positive feelings of self-improvement, this fire pales compared to the feeling of joy that comes from having contributed something to the greater good."  – Lynnea Glasser, game developer

·         "You’re like this little blip of light that lasts for a very brief time and you can shine as brightly as you choose."  – Sean Faircloth, author, lawyer, lobbyist

·         "Play hard, work hard, love hard. . . .The bottom line for me is to live life to the fullest in the here-and-now instead of a hoped-for hereafter, and make every day count in some meaningful way and do something—no matter how small it is—to make the world a better place."  – Michael Shermer, founder and publisher, Skeptic Magazine

·         "I hope to dissuade the cruel parts of the world from their self-imposed exile and persuade their audiences to understand that freedom is synonymous with life and that the world is a place of safety and of refuge."  – Faisal Saeed Al-Mutar, writer

·         "I look around the world and see so many wonderful things that I love and enjoy and benefit from, whether it’s art or music or clothing or food and all the rest. And I’d like to add a little to that goodness."  – Daniel Dennett, philosopher and cognitive scientist




·         "I thrive on maintaining a simple awe about the universe. No matter what struggles we are going through the miracles of existence continue on, forming and reforming patterns like an unstoppable kaleidoscope."  – Marlene Winell, human development consultant

·         "Math . . . music .. . starry nights . . . These are secular ways of achieving transcendence, of feeling lifted into a grand perspective. It’s a sense of being awed by existence that almost obliterates the self. Religious people think of it as an essentially religious experience but it’s not. It’s an essentially human experience."  – Rebecca Newberger Goldstein, philosopher and novelist

·         "There is joy in the search for knowledge about the universe in all its manifestations."  – Janet Asimov, psychiatrist

·         "Science and reason liberate us from the shackles of superstition by offering us a framework for understanding our shared humanity. Ultimately, we all have the capacity to treasure life and enrich the world in incalculable ways."  – Gad Saad, professor of marketing

·         "If you trace back all those links in the chain that had to be in place for me to be here, the laws of probability maintain that my very existence is miraculous. But then after however many decades, less than a hundred years, they disburse and I cease to be. So while they’re all congregated and coordinated to make me, then—and I speak her on behalf of all those trillions of atoms—I should really make the most of things." – Jim Al-Khalili, professor of physics"





Friday, August 17, 2018

Herbert Armstrong: Races were to remain segregated till the end of this world...





Source: Good News, November 1957 
"Why America is CURSED" 


Here are three clips I have grabbed from the Good News. If there be any doubt HWA was racist - here's the proof. Apparently to HWA, God "commands" racial segregation, and apparently, segregation was not considered sinful and evil to to HWA. Those who thought so were "deluded". 

Among those whom HWA considered deluded were Eleanor Roosevelt, and the other politicians who worked to end racial segregation. 

Just more things to add to the files of the evidence that the WCG under HWA was fully racist. 

Like we who know better didn't know that already. But you can't tell a horse led to water to drink, can you. 

Of course, it all has to do with the Fact DEUTERONOMY is "still in force". 

Source: SHT






Rod Meredith made "DOUBLY SURE" there was no chance of an "accidental ordination" of Bob Thiel

Written by Rod Meredith himself: December 1957

Did Rod Meredith foresee decades ago self-appointed wannabe's trying to rise up in the ministry?
I guess "Doubly Blessed" Bob thought that an accidental ordination was being "Doubly Careful" under Rod Meredith. 
Rod Meredith made sure there was no chance of an "Accidental Ordination". 
Sorry, Bob. Your ordination was absolutely not legitimate, by Rod's Own Words. And seeing that this was the man that you were under this man in corporate authority when you got accidentally doubly blessed and made into a something something - you know better than that. 
So who ordained you, and authorized you to act as a minister and start the Continuing Church of God? 

Rod Meredith knew that Thiel was not qualified to be ordained, which is why he refused to do it ever since Global and Living Church of God formed. Meredith knew that a large number of the membership had no respect for the guy and actually found him to be rather obnoxious.  Thiel was not trained and certainly was NOT qualified to be ordained a minister.  His bogus double blessing by Gaylyn Bonjour was no blessing at all to start a new church.

"Thus, we have been doubly "careful" in recent years 

about ordaining 
elders, deacons and deaconesses.
And we whould be!


LCG: Gerald Weston Institutes A Church Wide Fast To Be Held Yearly After The Feast of Tabernacles



Leave it to the Church of God to institute more extra-biblical legalistic nonsense over their members.  More hoops and regulations for people to go through in order to please their god.  LCG members always seem to have to be doing something to appease the wrath of their angry god who is perpetually pissed off.

LCG members will have celebrated 8 days symbolizing a time that depicts the Kingdom of God, a time of joy and rest, yet they must be such vile creatures that they immediately sin after being in that kingdom and have to start fasting.  You can be guaranteed no such thing will be required in the Kingdom of God that they all claim to be looking eagerly forward to.

Oh yes, and lest you forget, EEEEEEEVIL is about to descend upon the Living Church of God and troublesome times are ahead.  That broken record has been skipping in that same spot for 80+ years now.


Dear Brethren and Fellow Servants of God,
We have much to be thankful for as we enter into the seventh-month Festival season. Events certainly seem to be speeding up, hastening the time when these Feasts will be fulfilled. We often turn to Nehemiah 8 when giving sermons during this time of year. There we read of how the Jews kept the Feast of Trumpets, the Feast of Tabernacles and Last Great Day. Although it does not mention Atonement, it is almost certain that they fasted on that day. We rarely go on to read the first verse of the next chapter, which offers an interesting insight. The Last Great Day ends on the 22nd day of the month. In chapter 9, verse 1, we see that they fasted two days later, probably on the first Sabbath after the Feast. It has been a practice of the Church to have a Church-wide fast from time to time, and since we have not had one this year, I thought it would be good to do so shortly after the Feast. Some of us discussed this at a recent meeting here in Charlotte, and since many travel all over the world, it seems best to hold a fast a couple weeks following the Feast. We are therefore calling for a Church-wide fast for the Sabbath of October 20. We recognize that some individuals or Church congregations already have plans in place for that Sabbath, so it is certainly fine to choose the next day or another day close to this day. Let us plan now to voluntarily set that day aside, or one close to it, to examine and humble ourselves before our Creator, and beseech Him to strengthen and bless His Church as we see an evil time descending around us.
Sincerely, in Christ’s service,
Gerald Weston

Wednesday, August 15, 2018

Why You're Going To The Lake of Fire: July 19, 1961 Co-Worker Letter



Co-Worker/Member Letter - July 19, 1961
Yet, when our Lord and Master and leader Jesus Christ PUTS HIS CHURCH TO THE TEST, a very large portion of us seem to FAIL HIM. We, like carnal Israelites of old, do not want to OBEY His orders. We gripe and "murmur" and complain and criticize, and want to go contrary to HIS way, even as carnal ancient Israel. But, IF we are really IN God's own Church, WE HAVE RECEIVED THE GIFT OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT----we have had our carnality CHANGED---we have been graciously given, by God's mercy and loving grace, a NEW NATURE---A NEW ATTITUDE AND SPIRIT---one of willing and eager submission and cooperation, instead of the spirit of rebellion, independence, and criticism.
I am thoroughly discouraged, and I'm going to tell you WHY---and if some of you---yes, MANY of you---do not WAKE UP, and REPENT, I say to you on Christ's authority that He is about to spue you out of His mouth, and your end will be the lake of fire! I am not going to soft-pedal or mince words. God commands me, as His minister, to cry ALOUD and show you who profess to be HIS PEOPLE your sins, lest you fall under HIS TERRIBLE CONDEMNATION! I do not propose to minimize this, because MANY OF YOU PROFESSING BRETHREN ARE IN DANGER OF THE FINAL HELL FIRE JESUS SAID SO MUCH ABOUT!
I am heartsick and grieved at heart. Some of you whom God has called to be my real HELPERS in His work make yourselves,instead, my biggest discouragement.
This is being caused by TWO current experiences.
1) On June 19---just a month ago---our office in Pasadena sent you in the western third of the United State a long letter about the Feast of Tabernacles being held---for brethren of this western part of the country---at a new place JESUS CHRIST has designated for us---a magnificent, exciting, breath-takingly beautiful place---Squaw Valley.
YET IT IS NOW REPORTED TO ME THAT MANY OF YOU SEEM TO BE COMPLAINING, AND PLANNING TO REBEL AGAINST YOUR LORD JESUS CHRIST AND GO TO GLADEWATER, TEXAS, IN SPITE OF US!
Brethren some of you---and apparently MANY of you---need to go to a private place of prayer, and beg the Christ who died for you and granted you the gift of His Holy Spirit to HAVE MERCY ON YOU and FORGIVE YOU! Some of you are showing a wrong rebellious uncooperative and selfish spirit. Some of you are putting the visiting with unconverted relatives ahead of obedience to CHRIST, and cooperation with His CHURCH!

contributed by SHT, all direct quotes of Herbert Armstrong


Tuesday, August 14, 2018

While Everyone else is SCARED about 1972/1975 in Prophecy, GTA JOKES ABOUT IT TO MINISTERS!!!! (1971, DEC)

photo scanned by SHT


While church members around the world worried about the time of our eminent fleeing to Petra, Garner Ted and others in Pasadena knew nothing was happening and made fun of it all.  The dumb sheep were easy to mock.

I always find it interesting to read COG apologist who will get on their soap boxes and vehemently deny the church ever set dates.  Those men are liars, plain and simple.

I have related here before how the ministry int he Dayton, Ohio church revealed a timeline down to the month we would be fleeing.  It was at a combined service with Columbus that this all went down.  It had to be at a holy day service because we were instructed to arrive back on time for the afternoon service as the doors were to be locked at a certain time and anyone left outside would not be permitted in.  This was supposed to prohibit unconverted ears from hearing what was about to go down.

We arrived back and the minister had a large blackboard on stage.  He proceeded to map out in detail the timeline for the date for us to flee to Petra, down to the month, the week, then day.  My mother copied this down precisely, as she was the one who typed up all the sermons and gave them to the tape library to hand out each week at church.

As the weeks and months went by, my mother crossed each one off.  She had posted this inside the kitchen cupboard so that wandering eyes of neighbors, or the police would not see it.  I remember her mentioning hiding it from the police.  It was a well-known fact that Satan would send the police to try and stop us all from fleeing.

This epic prophetic failure disqualified Herbert Armstrong and every single evangelist, and minister that promoted it.  Scripture tells us that all one need to be a false prophet is to have ONE prophecy fail and they are not to be trusted after that. 

As we all know by now, in 2018, the Church of God is filled to the brim with lying fools like Weinland, Pack, Flurry, Thiel, Malm, and others who continue to set dates and then have to refigure those dates to fit their epic failures. 

20 "But any prophet who fakes it, who claims to speak in my name something I haven't commanded him to say, or speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die."
21 You may be wondering among yourselves, "How can we tell the difference, whether it was God who spoke or not?" Here's how:
22 If what the prophet spoke in God's name doesn't happen, then obviously God wasn't behind it; the prophet made it up. Forget about him. Deuteronomy 18:20-22

1 God's Message came to me:
2 "Son of man, preach against the prophets of Israel who are making things up out of their own heads and calling it 'prophesying.'
3 God, the Master, pronounces doom on the empty-headed prophets who do their own thing and know nothing of what's going on!
4 Your prophets, Israel, are like jackals scavenging through the ruins.
5 They haven't lifted a finger to repair the defenses of the city and have risked nothing to help Israel stand on God's Day of Judgment.
6 All they do is fantasize comforting illusions and preach lying sermons. They say 'God says . . .' when God hasn't so much as breathed in their direction. And yet they stand around thinking that something they said is going to happen.
7 "Haven't you fantasized sheer nonsense? Aren't your sermons tissues of lies, saying 'God says . . .' when I've done nothing of the kind?  Ezekiel 13:1-7
The vermin, the false teachers, the bastardizers of the law, and the self-appointed who have set themselves up as church leaders and prophets have proven to all be liars.  None of them deserves to be followed.
But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death. Deuteronomy 18:20-22