Some Political Questions for U.S. Christians?

Some Political Questions for U.S. Christians?

Lonnie Hendrix/Miller Jones

Do you believe that the founding documents (e.g. Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution) were Divinely inspired? Does that make those documents inerrant and/or the founding fathers infallible?

If so, do you believe that the United States is God's nation? Do you believe that the political system of the United States is the most perfect system of human governance ever created by man?

Do you believe that the United States is a "Christian" nation? If so, does that mean that all other religions should not be tolerated? Should we ensure that any contributions to our system by people of other faiths should not be permitted/tolerated?

Do you believe that the founding fathers were righteous individuals? If so, why did some of them own slaves and/or engage in extramarital affairs? Likewise, do you believe that the United States is/was a righteous nation? If so, how do you explain the way land was taken away from Native Americans? How do you explain the toleration and support of the institution of slavery? How do you explain the exploitation of natural resources, extermination of species, and pollution of our air and waterways?

Do you believe that human political leaders can and/or should be Christians? Do you believe that it is possible or practical for secular leaders to strictly adhere to the teachings of Jesus Christ in the performance of their duties within the current system and/or on the world stage?

Do you believe that God intended for Christians to improve the human political systems of this earth? Do you believe that Christians have a responsibility/duty to impose Christian moral standards on the larger society? If so, which denomination's beliefs should we employ as our standard? Also, does that mean that the rights of some groups of citizens should be denied (like homosexuals, atheists, or adulterers)? Should Christians support the public execution of sinners/criminals? If so, do we have any responsibility to encourage repentance, forgive, or show mercy to such individuals? How would that be managed/administered?

If God truly directs the affairs of humankind and is working out some design/plan, what happens if we support or vote for a candidate whom He didn't choose? Do we bear any responsibility for the failure of policy choices that we help to make? Do we bear any responsibility before God for unintended consequences of the choices we make at the ballot box? How do we maintain a clear conscience before God when we support someone who clearly does not live up to God's standard of behavior? Does the end justify the means?

Do you believe that the United States is a democratic republic? If so, how do you explain the fact that blacks and women were only allowed to participate in the political process in just the last century? How do we justify a minority being able to thwart the will of the majority or impose its beliefs/policies on the majority? How do we justify the practice of gerrymandering or the practice of partisanship?

Why do you think that Jesus said that his Kingdom was NOT of this world? Why do you think that Jesus instructed his disciples to pray that God's Kingdom come to this earth? Why do you believe that he also instructed them to pray for God's will to be done on earth as it currently is in heaven? Does that imply that human leaders are NOT doing God's will? Why did the Apostle Paul instruct the saints to NOT get entangled in civilian affairs? What did he mean by that? Why did John refer to human governance as Babylon and "Beast"? What do you think it meant when he wrote for God's saints to come out of her and NOT participate in her sins?

I'm truly interested in hearing some responses to these questions - especially for those who answered yes to the first few questions! Did any of the above questions prompt you to reconsider your political views or better understand why some Christians choose not to involve themselves in secular politics?

The Continuing Church of Chigololo

The Great Bwana Bob had better whip up some of his homeopathic brews and ship them over to Africa to cure the rampant chigololo going on there in his leadership. 

Sources have again confirmed the truth that Radson Molowzoa does have a new wife (Patrisha Sambani). His ex-wife divorced him around 3 years ago for adultery. 

Terry Nelson reported this to Dr Bob Thiel way over a year ago and even showed Dr Thiel a picture of Radson holding a woman. Radson told Dr Thiel it was a cousin (Patrisha Sambani). Really? 

Sources have also confirmed a phone conversation between a top CCOG leader and a Hope of Israel leader. The leader in the CCOG said, quote "I will have no part in bringing Radson M. And his ex-wife together....Radson has a new wife, let him stay put". 

This CCOG leader also said Dr Bob needs to fire Radson, as he is a liar, adulterer, and rampant fornication machine. He has no churches in Malawi as the people don't trust him.. 

The CCOG Leader also said, hopefully, Dr Thiel will do the right thing before it's too late. Sources have also confirmed a letter written to Evans and Dr Thiel from 2 top CCOG men saying Radson does have a new wife, and Thiel must be told. 

A top CCOG leader apparently has this letter and plans on releasing it soon unless action is taken. 

Many reports are coming in praising Sosten L., as the most caring man for the CCOG brethren. Let's hope for the best......

CHINYANJA (CHICEWA) language translates chigololo as:

"improper sexual conduct or adultery"

 

Bob Thiel's Right Hand Man In Panic Mode Due To The Great Disappearing Churches Debacle

 

Isn't it amazing how the most important Church of God on the earth today is a swirling mess of corruption, sexual misconduct, and unprincipled intrigue while the Great Overseer plays with his herbs and homeopathic remedies along the California Coast? While Rome burns, the emperor fiddles...

RADSON MOLOWZOA is in panic mode as he doesn't have any churches in Malawi representing CCOG. 

 

Radson just recently texted a Top Hope of Israel leader, trying to provoke him, by saying he took one of Hope's churches in the Balaka district and that also Wedson Matiya is back with him and the CCOG. 

 

In reality, Forster Abraham, Hope of Israel's administrator,  disfellowshipped Wedson Matiya and also terminated Balaka Congregation for not following church beliefs and other church protocols, around 2 months ago. 

 

This latest Radson move is to appease Dr Bob into believing Radson is doing wonders in growing CCOG membership. 

 

Maybe Dr Thiel will now support the disgraceful Wedson Matiya? 

 

Hope doesn't play games..... Hope Leadership truly feels bad for Dr Thiel as Radson constantly lies to Dr Thiel for financial rewards. 

 

UCG: We Now Have A Small Window Of Opportunity To Get The Gospel Out

Jelly getting ready to help UCG 

with their new small window of opportunity to ALL creation.

UCG has been around since May of 1995. During this time, they claim they have been proclaiming a gospel, yet most people have no idea who they are and what they are about.  After three decades of numerous groups splintering off of them and losing a large percentage of their ministers to COGWA, they now realize they should have been proclaiming a gospel message.

Now that Trump has been elected, they claim they have a small opportunity open before them to successfully get their message out. Of course, that will take money, and they are begging for "resources" once again. In COGspeak, "resources" means money (tithes, offerings, estate donations, and more).

Thirty years and their accomplishments are minimal. Sure, they have had numerous office buildings and that stuffed blue puppet named Jelly representing them, but that is about all that they present to the world. They have no dynamic speakers who can arrest the attention of the public. Repackaging old WCG booklets, articles, and World Tomorrow broadcasts has not accomplished much of anything.

People are turned off and will continue to be turned off, with or without Jelly as their public face. They have an unforgiving battle ahead of them when they think they are going to be preaching a gospel "boldly, directly, and authoritatively to all nations". 

Oh, and they will be preaching this to ALL CREATION! Even Jelly laughed at this!

The COG's are always on that final gun lap that has never seen a finish line since 1933.

Here in the United States, the long, hotly contested presidential campaign finally and mercifully came to a close a few days ago. You’ve likely heard of the results of the election, and we are thankful to God for the clarity He has provided. 

 

In Romans 13:1, we are reminded, “there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.” It is God who we worship, trust and follow. He “removes kings and raises up kings” (Daniel 2:21) and we live and carry out His work in the physical environment He provides. 

 

As we look at the physical “landscape” shaped by the direction God has given, we see that now it is time to be earnestly about His “business.” There is a window of time, however long He determines, for us to preach the gospel boldly, directly and authoritatively in all nations to “every creature” (Mark 16:15), which means to all creation. As God continues to open our eyes, there is still a big work to do to fulfill this aspect of His commission to His Church. 

 

It is a daunting commission when we consider how much has to be done, but we know Jesus Christ is the Head of this Church, and only with His guidance and direction by His Spirit will it be accomplished. We are fully committed here to do that work, but we need and ask for your prayers that God lead us and provide the resources needed to accomplish what needs to be done. Many of you have knowledge and expertise in areas that can be of great help as we do God’s work. God will provide those opportunities for all of us to work together, offering the talents and skills that will contribute to this effort (Ephesians 4:16).

Satan Continues To Attack Whiney Self-Appointed COG Prophet

 

Why is it that Satan is always so busy persecuting certain self-appointed Church of God leaders? Doesn't he have anything better to do? Apparently, he has to sit in the local coffee shop hacking into the Great Bwana's websites, stirring up trouble. He could be attacking Dave Pack or Gerald Flurry, but no, he picks Bob Thiel. The world gets crazier by the day!

Hacking Issues

Last week I mentioned that we were working on issues because our Bible News Prophecy International radio site hit by a targeted hack that shut down our Bible News Prophecy International multi-language internet radio channel and has made it not possible to currently update.

While working on that, we also noticed that our ccog.eu site was hacked and taken offline. Plus, a hack affected out Spanish language site. We found 1,700 pieces of malware on just one of the sites!

So, we have been working on these matters, as well as taking steps to protect more of our websites from being hacked.

Satan does not want Matthew 24:14 to be fulfilled as that is an important sign of the end, which will lead to the countdown of his end. Since Satan is the “the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience” (Ephesians 2:2), he has directly or indirectly, influenced one or more of the disobedient to attack our websites.

Who Have You Placed Your Identity In?

Who should you place your identity in today? Should it be in a physical church? A so-called spiritual one? Or, in the One you should be placing your identity in?

Samuel Kitchen says it should be IN the Worldwide Church of God. He writes:

The Holy Spirit distinguishes the Worldwide Church of God from all other peoples. 

 

If someone is called of God, receives the Holy Spirit of God, the more they walk by the Word of God the more they look like the Worldwide Church of God! 

 

Eventually they will have to accept the fact that their identity is the Worldwide Church of God aka the true Church of God. 

 

And I think that is what is being suppressed in these church groups! The ability to finally come into the full identity of the Worldwide Church of God. 

 

If you attend with these other churches, you can’t wholly take on the identity of the true Church of God. Because the more obey the word of God, the more you run head on into the government of God. The Worldwide Church of God only has the government of God. 

 

The more families and people submit God’s will and government the more they become The Worldwide Church of God . 

 

And the more you obey God the more you have to separate away from that which is not of God! Come out of her my people! 

 

Obey God no matter where you are! 

 

People have joined with these cog groups saying this other church has people obeying God.
My family was shown how the idea of a second church is heresy. And since not one of the cog groups have continued with 100% of what was learned by the members of the Worldwide Church of God, but only parts of it, we are commanded to avoid those groups! To hold fast! 

 

This has led us to proclaim the continued existence of the Worldwide Church of God as a spiritual body! 

 

It also has led me to warn brethren about departures from God and His Truth and against heresies. This is the Laodicean warning! Don’t become lukewarm or indifferent to what God says in His Word! 

 

You won’t slide into the Kingdom of God! You won’t be protected by mingling with other people! You have to WALK according to Gods Word! 

 

The more we do, the more Satan gets angry. Because he thought by destroying the human organization for the Work would destroy the church! But if you are in another church obey God! If you are in jail, obey God! Wherever you are obey God! 

 

Then God will gather his flock. You just have to obey God and not get caught up among the sifting machine Satan is using against you!

After reading this bullshit, it is no wonder the Church of God today is an extreme mess of idiocy and utter blasphemy. Any Christian, even a nominal one, recognizes their identity is in Jesus Christ and NOT in any physical, "spiritual" church or some gelatinous slimy thing they love to call the spiritual organism. Their identity is in The ONE.

They know this because because of how God sees his children:

You Are Loved

In Christ, you are loved. You were created with a purpose. You are not just a convenient carbon copy of someone else. You were created uniquely and with intention. God lovingly designed every detail of your person. Can you imagine the love involved with that intricate design?

You Are Chosen

In Christ, you are not only loved but chosen. God sent His own Son to earth to die in your place so that you could be included in His family.

God was not obligated to choose you based on your performance or credentials. He chose to carry out an intricate plan that involved the death of His own perfect Son, which allowed you the opportunity to be a child of God.

You are no mistake. You are chosen and wanted.

You Are Forgiven

In order to be counted a child of the perfect Father, you had to be free of sin — that is, you had to be perfect with regard to doing right and not doing wrong. That is a tall order considering no one but Jesus was or is perfect and no one can attain perfection by their own effort.

However, because Jesus, who was without sin, died the death you should have on the cross, you can be forgiven of sin. What you’ve done wrong is not counted against you, and all that Christ did right is counted for you. This forgiveness allows you to be considered a child of God.

Therefore, in God’s eyes, if you have accepted what Jesus did for you, you are completely forgiven. From His perspective, you are without sin. It’s not that you won’t sin, but when He looks at you, He calls you forgiven. That is something on which you can build your identity.

You Are Redeemed

What does your forgiveness mean? You are redeemed — that is, Christ’s sacrifice has bought you back from the forces of sin and evil that once owned and controlled you and made you His.

When God looks at you, He does not see a former sinner. He does not see you in light of who you once were. He sees you as redeemed: a new creation that has been made whole.

You do not have to define yourself in light of your past mistakes. God does not do that. You can walk in the identity of someone who is made new in Christ.

You Are Adopted

What does it mean to be considered a child of God? It means that you have been adopted into His family. You are considered a legitimate child of the God of the universe, having all the rights and standing of Jesus His Son.

God sees you as a cherished child who bears His name. Just as earthly adoption is a legally binding process that names you a permanent part of a family, heavenly adoption is just as permanent and binding. You are His child, and He will never take that away. Your Identity in Christ: How God Sees You

Our identity is not in the Worldwide Church of God or that creepy thing they call the spiritual organism. It is most certainly not in the Worldwide Church of God, Herbert Armstrong, Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, or ANY other COG leader. 

It also is NOT our identity to be abused by church government under Armstrongism. This perverse teaching has led us down the rabbit hole to the spiraling mess the COG is in today with its various apostate and heretical leaders. Armstrongite church government has allowed abuse to rob people of their literal lives. Armstrongite church government robs people of a deep spiritual connection to Jesus.

Church of God Network: My Time in the Philadelphia Church of God

 

This week, we dive into an incredibly insightful testimony from our guest, who shares his journey in the Philadelphia Church of God. We discuss the challenges of living in a high-control environment, what ultimately led him/his family to leave, and the impact that decision had on them and their relationships. It’s a raw and thought-provoking conversation that highlights the strength and resilience of those who step away from fringe groups.

Church of God Network is an amalgamation of various COG groups uniting together for a common cause, usually devoid of the extremism extant in some COGs today. If I were still involved in the COG movement, this group would certainly be more joyful and encouraging than most of the larger COG groups are. Their feast sites certainly look and sound so much better. They also have been really successful in capitalizing on social media and its powerful impact.

A comment on their video had this:

Enjoyed the fireside chat going through decades of history and real life experience without any bitterness. Love the empathy he has towards people who are still stuck in PCG and can’t escape because the moment they do their family disowns them . Eric was right to say that the PCG look down on other groups and look down on those who leave PCG, attend other Church of God groups and people in the world in general. That is unless you are someone who furthers their own false prophesies about Jeroboam.

The Church of God movement has a problem, and it is not centered on so-called anti-COG websites and blogs. When everyday members also recognize the lies and abuse currently going on, it should be a wake call to the bigger groups. Their members are leaving in droves and going with more rational COG groups, including COG7, or nowhere at all. The glaring problem is that these problematic groups really don't care and carry on as usual.

Church of God Network's mission and vision statements should be a wake-up call to the Churches of God. You are failing your people, and people are waking up. The church had a chance to reenvision itself when the changes all happened, and yet the vast majority carried on the same old way, carrying on the abuse and outlandish prophecy lies. Today, younger COG members have a chance to create a new vision.

Our Mission

To help build community within the Church of God by facilitating connection, encouraging conversations, and giving back.

At Church of God Network, our mission is simple: to help build a vibrant and united global Church of God community. Through meaningful connections, engaging conversations, and giving back, we’re creating the framework for connection through the world of social and in-person networking. Join us as we embark on this incredible journey, where your voice matters and your passion strengthens our network.

Our Vision

Imagine a cohesive and dynamic Body of Christ, where fellowship abounds, open communication is the norm, and active cooperation fuels growth. We’re dedicated to nurturing a Church of God community where members from each COG organization come together in harmony to do good works with and for one another. Our vision is simple: A community that thrives on unity of the spirit, understanding, and a shared sense of purpose for the coming Kingdom of God.