Dingy Weinland assumes more power than he actually has when it comes to God's favor. Weinerdude thinks that he is so powerful that when he disfellowships a person they are immediately cut off from God. They no longer will have any help from God now His protection. More importantly Weinerdude removes God's grace from that person.
Apparently Weinerdudes god is so impotent that he allows Ron to do this. Weinerdude's god is such an impotent wuss that the person is immediately handed over to demons so they can be harassed, deceived and caught up in the turmoil of Satan's world.
If Weinerdeude thinks that by being a Church of God member a person transformed and receives all the answers he is mistaken. Look at the complete mess that Armstorngism has been for the last 80 some years. Hundreds and hundreds of factions and groups splitting off with hundreds and hundreds of leaders all claim they have the only way towards salvation. Untimely deaths, murders, suicides, divorces, rapes, child molestations, destroyed families, ruined businesses, etc. is the enduring legacy of Armstrongism. Just look at the utter mess that Weinerdude's own personality cult is in! Where is the deliverance and transformation in that?Before someone is called, they are in bondage to Satan’s system and his world where he deceives, wrongly influences, and perverts. When brought into the Church, God begins the process of deliverance and protection from that being and his demons. Although all human beings will suffer in this world, both in the Church and out of it, only those within the Church does God give the only means for deliverance, answers, and transformation that is able to lead them to permanent change and peace that gives true fullness of life.
When people continue to follow this fool is beyond me. No Armstrongite minister has this power, never has and never will.
Yet when someone in the Church is severed (cut off) from the continuing flow of God’s spirit in their life by becoming disfellowshipped, they are then separated from God’s continuing flow of spiritual nourishment that is given with the spiritual help (means and inspiration) to receive (see) it. They no longer have access to the unleavened bread of life. They are actually cast back into Satan’s world without God’s grace, help, protection and favor in life. Not only that, but in many ways they now become targets of harassment, turmoil, and deception from that demonic world. The ability for that evil spirit world to now have open access to such individuals is taken as a kind of perverted sense of victory against God. However, God has a plan whereby He will still work during “another time” to deliver those who have become permanently disfellowshipped.
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As a former pastor who still has my decopauged ordination signed by HWA/GTA and David Antion, and originally not baptized into any church or denomination of men but into the spiritual body of Jesus Christ, I disfellowship Ronald Weinland from the Church of God for spiritual arrogance, prophetic goofery, grand theft church and making scripture mean what it never meant.
We wish no ill will to Mr. Weinland only that he would come to repentance. He is furthermore removed from God's grace, help, protection and favor until he apologizes for mucking things up for those sincerely deceived and deluded.
Mr Weinland no longer has access to God's unleavened bread but should be at least he is not in God's Leven-worth, which is probably worse than where he is. God will work with him at another time if Mr. Weinland behaves theologically.
So let it be written...so let it be done.
Amen and aaaaamen!
PS Since I have the moral and spiritual authority to do this (Dave Pack's words when telling folk to pull big financial giving triggers) I may go ahead and disfellowship Dave Pack too for similar offences.
Brethren are not to fellowship with the dis-fellowshipped nor try to re-member the dis-membered.
Dennis,
Thank you for stepping up to the plate and dis-fellowshipping and publicly marking this wolf in sheep's clothing - an enemy of God's Church and God's people!
Richard
AMEN !! Brother Den
Dave is a fellow who has no real friends, he has surrounded himself with yes men who he has to pay to tolerate his assholishness. He has already disfellowshipped his miserable, boney, gaunt, frowning, arm waving self from everybody who might care for him. Even his blood relatives are ashamed of his ridiculous claims, they have disowned him. What a mean man he is. I remember meeting him, he was so arrogant and cold.
Weinland is claiming to do what Satan attempts. He may as well have signed his missive "Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name!"
BB
"Before someone is called, they are in bondage to Satan’s system and his world where he deceives, wrongly influences, and perverts. When brought into the Church, God begins the process of deliverance and protection from that being and his demons. Although all human beings will suffer in this world, both in the Church and out of it, only those within the Church does God give the only means for deliverance, answers, and transformation that is able to lead them to permanent change and peace that gives true fullness of life."
The complete and utter falsification of this theory, worldview, and theology in my own life experience is key to my deconversion.
All those continue to promulgate such bankrupt mythological nonsense should be marked by those seeking truth through tarring, feathering, and being run out of town on a rail, and subsequently ex-communicated, dis-fellowshipped, dis-membered, and eventually dis-remembered too.
The discourses of this guy on disfellowshipping, who ever he is, is no different from the Catholic Church perspective during the Middle Ages also known as the Dark Ages. I couldn't believe that this guy has followers that are so ignorant (despite the fact that we are now in the so-called Information Age)as to believe a Dark Age lie.
Just remember everyone, Ronald Weinland (better known as Conald Swineland) represents the leaders of the CoHAM (Cult of Herbert Armstrong Mafia), replete with false prophecies, lack of ethics, double talk, in it for the prestige and money.
They are all alike and follow the pattern set by Herbert Armstrong.
It's just that... Swineland got caught by the IRS and is now serving his times, time and half a time in Federal Prison as a convicted felon for Income Tax evasion (5 counts, no less).
Take a look at the double-talk and you have pretty much everybody from Joey Jr to Davey Pack and the Six Pack Prophet.
Except for the name on the door, it's hard to see any real differences between the narcissists / sociopaths / psychopaths / weird and creepy / morons / crazies.
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